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While the maxilla looks like one bone
but itstruly paired(left and right)
its paired by a thing called intermaxillary sutures
many people think that the suture is the same as our long bone after 15-16 its fully closed, and you cant change it.
This might be true in a minority of people but they found even 71 olds who had their sutures open and according to a study:
"According to Scott25 and Xicher,26 the circummaxillary sutures, as far as is known, remain open at least up to the middle of adult lifeA."
in some studies they claim that the majority of people have their sutures open in their 30s
"Nguyen (2008) carried out a study on 20 patients over 70 years of age and reported that the midpalatal suture is the only suture that might not close completely even in the elderly (11). In addition, in a study by Poorsattar et al., some cases of incomplete ossification of the suture were observed at ages >40 years (10). In another study with the use of CBCT images, in only 13% of the adult subjects completely closed sutures were detected (25). "
If the sutures are not completely fused they work as intramembranous bone growth sites
" They serve as the major sites of bone expansion during postnatal craniofacial growth. For sutures to function as intramembranous bone growth sites, they need to remain in an unossified state, "
what is an intramembranous ossification?
" Unlike endochondral growth plates, which expand through chondrocyte hypertrophy, sutures do not have intrinsic growth potential. Rather, they produce new bone at the sutural edges of the bone fronts in response to external stimuli, such as signals arising from the expanding neurocranium. "
AKA under force stimulus/pressure they form new bone in the edges of the suture and it can respond to stimuli
why is that important to us?
Because mewing does that via wolffs law your tounge can create pressure/force stimulus and modulate the activity of osteoblasts and osteoclasts
another important factor that
MSE MIGHT BE BETTER FOR PURE SKELETAL EFFECTS BUT BONE BORNE EXPANDERS CAN STILL SPLIT THE SUTURE FOR PEOPLE in their teens/early twenties
as shown in this study:
"A growing body of evidence is
refuting the belief that palatal expansion
without surgery is not possible in patients
older than 15 or 16 years of age. Our case
report and the literature provide clinically
based evidence indicating that although the
midpalatal suture may be closed when
evaluated radiographically, it is not
necessarily fused. Therefore, the
midpalatal suture can be orthopedically
manipulated through RPE in patients at
least into their early twenties. Some
authors even provide evidence of success
beyond this age."
"Histological and radiological evidence
indicates that the maxillary suture is not
fused enough to inhibit the opening of the
maxillary palatal suture in patients who are
in their late teens or their early twenties."
So even non-bone borne devices can split your sutures in your late teens-twenties
They say that the AVERAGE human swallow with a force of 1.8 KG
how much force Rapid Maxillary Expander creates? 3-9 KG
so your tounge strenght might play a role here
My goal with this thread is to prove people wrong who say YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY CANT HAVE RESULTS WITH MEWING AFTER LIKE 9 YEARS OLD
But it worth Mentioning that DONT EXCEPT BIG CHANGES (I WONT SAY EXACT MM'S BUT DONT EXPECT MUCH)
If your palate and maxillary is narrow as fuck just get MSE
AND SALLUDONS TRANSFORMATION IS SURGERY LOL
@hairyballscel @Seth Walsh @SPFromNY914 @RecessedPrettyboy @Good_Little_Goy @Mohamad @Copemaxxing
this thread might be messy but idc,ask me if you cant understand it
but itstruly paired(left and right)
its paired by a thing called intermaxillary sutures
many people think that the suture is the same as our long bone after 15-16 its fully closed, and you cant change it.
This might be true in a minority of people but they found even 71 olds who had their sutures open and according to a study:
"According to Scott25 and Xicher,26 the circummaxillary sutures, as far as is known, remain open at least up to the middle of adult lifeA."
in some studies they claim that the majority of people have their sutures open in their 30s
"Nguyen (2008) carried out a study on 20 patients over 70 years of age and reported that the midpalatal suture is the only suture that might not close completely even in the elderly (11). In addition, in a study by Poorsattar et al., some cases of incomplete ossification of the suture were observed at ages >40 years (10). In another study with the use of CBCT images, in only 13% of the adult subjects completely closed sutures were detected (25). "
If the sutures are not completely fused they work as intramembranous bone growth sites
" They serve as the major sites of bone expansion during postnatal craniofacial growth. For sutures to function as intramembranous bone growth sites, they need to remain in an unossified state, "
what is an intramembranous ossification?
" Unlike endochondral growth plates, which expand through chondrocyte hypertrophy, sutures do not have intrinsic growth potential. Rather, they produce new bone at the sutural edges of the bone fronts in response to external stimuli, such as signals arising from the expanding neurocranium. "
AKA under force stimulus/pressure they form new bone in the edges of the suture and it can respond to stimuli
why is that important to us?
Because mewing does that via wolffs law your tounge can create pressure/force stimulus and modulate the activity of osteoblasts and osteoclasts
another important factor that
MSE MIGHT BE BETTER FOR PURE SKELETAL EFFECTS BUT BONE BORNE EXPANDERS CAN STILL SPLIT THE SUTURE FOR PEOPLE in their teens/early twenties
as shown in this study:
"A growing body of evidence is
refuting the belief that palatal expansion
without surgery is not possible in patients
older than 15 or 16 years of age. Our case
report and the literature provide clinically
based evidence indicating that although the
midpalatal suture may be closed when
evaluated radiographically, it is not
necessarily fused. Therefore, the
midpalatal suture can be orthopedically
manipulated through RPE in patients at
least into their early twenties. Some
authors even provide evidence of success
beyond this age."
"Histological and radiological evidence
indicates that the maxillary suture is not
fused enough to inhibit the opening of the
maxillary palatal suture in patients who are
in their late teens or their early twenties."
So even non-bone borne devices can split your sutures in your late teens-twenties
They say that the AVERAGE human swallow with a force of 1.8 KG
how much force Rapid Maxillary Expander creates? 3-9 KG
so your tounge strenght might play a role here
My goal with this thread is to prove people wrong who say YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY CANT HAVE RESULTS WITH MEWING AFTER LIKE 9 YEARS OLD
But it worth Mentioning that DONT EXCEPT BIG CHANGES (I WONT SAY EXACT MM'S BUT DONT EXPECT MUCH)
If your palate and maxillary is narrow as fuck just get MSE
AND SALLUDONS TRANSFORMATION IS SURGERY LOL
Assessment of midpalatal suture ossification using cone-beam computed tomography
The degree of ossification of the midpalatal suture is an important factor in the selection of treatment procedure, especially in young individuals. Considering the discrepancies in the results of studies on the exact time of the closure of this suture, ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Maxilla Bone - The Definitive Guide | Biology Dictionary
The maxilla bone is a facial bone that provides bony structure for the eye sockets, nasal passage, hard palate, maxillary sinuses, and upper tooth sockets.
biologydictionary.net
Cranial sutures as intramembranous bone growth sites - PubMed
Intramembranous bone growth is achieved through bone formation within a periosteum or by bone formation at sutures. Sutures are formed during embryonic development at the sites of approximation of the membranous bones of the craniofacial skeleton. They serve as the major sites of bone expansion...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Maxilla
The maxilla, the central bone of the midface, has a body and four processes: palatine, frontal, alveolar and zygomatic. Learn about its anatomy at Kenhub!
www.kenhub.com
@hairyballscel @Seth Walsh @SPFromNY914 @RecessedPrettyboy @Good_Little_Goy @Mohamad @Copemaxxing
this thread might be messy but idc,ask me if you cant understand it