Why Tamoxifen does not cause growth retardation and is actually beneficial for height (GTFIH - HIGH IQ GUIDE)

[Paul.jnxy]

Tamox lowers igf1 buddy pretty counter intuitive dont you think

Nighas when they realise velocity does not equal FAH

 

[tommyhilinger]

Nighas when they realise velocity does not equal FAH

Nigga if you increase the duration of growth but slow down the growing itself you dont get anywhere do you, im not against using tamox i think its a good idea but you js failed to mention the countless studies that show it lowers igf

 

[Paul.jnxy]

Nigga if you increase the duration of growth but slow down the growing itself you dont get anywhere do you, im not against using tamox i think its a good idea but you js failed to mention the countless studies that show it lowers igf

So what if it does? You can pair it with shit to upregunate IGF-1R sensitivity and increase IGF1 artificially. Nobody is claiming it’s good alone. You can’t heightmax with one single axis. It’s over if you do.

 

[Paul.jnxy]

What a great way to tell the growth plates to raise e2 sensitivity even more instead of degrading the receptor!! Lets just antagonise it!! Didn't read tho good work

I just read this tf. My bad G. Tamox acts as a Estrogen receptor alpha antagonist inside the plates. You literally are DEGRADING the receptor.

 

[KLEORB]

Yes. A combo imo is best. Im currently on 12.5 mg aromasin (eod) + 0.625 letro (eod) and 10 mg Tamoxifen ed without being on any androgens. I will be upping them more when I hop on androgens and if I tolerate them will double all the doses.

would this stack go well with 6-8IU HGH?

 

[tomacōck]

Studies on women with breast cancer show elevated IGFBP levels = bad ratio = less growth. BMD is not the factor to use

Studies like the one I'll list are better but still not enough. Evidence is too conflicted to draw conclusions.

The use of tamoxifen to improve height potential in short pubertal boys - PubMed

A retrospective chart review of 7 pubertal boys who were treated with tamoxifen was conducted to determine the effects of this therapy on skeletal maturation and predicted adult height. Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Paul.jnxy]

would this stack go well with 6-8IU HGH?

Atleast 20+ for maximum effectiveness

 

[Paul.jnxy]

Studies on women with breast cancer show elevated IGFBP levels = bad ratio = less growth. BMD is not the factor to use

Studies like the one I'll list are better but still not enough. Evidence is too conflicted to draw conclusions.

The use of tamoxifen to improve height potential in short pubertal boys - PubMed

A retrospective chart review of 7 pubertal boys who were treated with tamoxifen was conducted to determine the effects of this therapy on skeletal maturation and predicted adult height. Tamoxifen significantly decreased the rate of skeletal maturation and increased the predicted adult height...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

will read and reply tmrw. It’s getting late