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First of all, this won't be a detailed long post cuz honestly, I couldn't give more of a fuck about making long posts tbh, I only care about making money and looksmax at this point.
But after seeing this thread, I decided to make this thread to clear somethings up:
What most people on this site don't get about rating is that:
I've had this discussion with @Tyrionlannistercel before as well, I don't remember in what thread.
I won't go in detail about this, I'd just like to add that once you become friend with someone, or you instinctively come to the conclusion that rating that person higher than he really is will give you a benefit such as keeping his friendship, avoiding that he doxxs you, showing that you're empathetic or some shit, your rating will already be subjective and messed up.
Niggas here would rate him probably a 5-6psl:
Her rate??
I'd even edit better this thread, but I don't want to waste any more of my time with this shit, gonna work now, I need money too many looksmaxxing things to buy. Looks are everything anyway.
But after seeing this thread, I decided to make this thread to clear somethings up:
What most people on this site don't get about rating is that:
- People (especially bluepilled ones) rate you based not only on your aesthetics but your attractiveness as well. And these are two different things. Aesthetics/Beauty are objective statements/rules about what makes something beautiful, and they may contribute to someone attractiveness but that doesn't mean perfect beauty alone will make you sexually attractive.
An example of this would be a man with a perfectly straight and well proportional nose being more beautiful/aesthetic than the same man with a bigger nose. However, some women would feel more attracted to the second guy, solely because she may see that bigger nose as a more masculine trait, which is something that she SUBJECTIVELY values more than beauty/aesthetic.
I won't go much in detail about the concept of valuation tbh, if you are interested you can read Human Action - Mises (It's a 1.000p book about economics, but the part about human action, value, and satisfaction are like 15-30p, it's definitely worth reading, and they apply to unconscious and conscious behavior imo)
There is no way to measure an increase or decrease in happiness or satisfaction; not only between different people, it is not possible to measure change in the happiness of one given person.
In order for any measurement to be possible, there must be an eternally fixed and objectively given unit with which other units may be compared. There is no such objective unit in the field of human valuation. The individual must determine subjectively for himself whether he is better or worse off as a result of any change. His preference can only be expressed in terms of simple choice, or rank. Thus, he can say, "I am better off" or "I am happier" because he went to a concert instead of playing bridge (or "I will be better off" for going to the concert), but it would be completely meaningless for him to try to assign units to his preference and say, "I am two and a half times happier because of this choice than I would have been playing bridge." Two and a half times what? There is no possible unit of happiness that can be used for purposes of comparison and, hence, of addition or multiplication. Therefore, values cannot be measured; values or utilities cannot be added, subtracted, or multiplied. They can only be ranked as better or worse. A man may know that he is or will be happier or less happy, but not by "how much".
Accordingly, the numbers by which ends are ranked on value scales are ordinal, not cardinal, numbers. Ordinal numbers are only ranked; they cannot be subject to the processes of measurement. Thus, in the above example, all we can say is that going to a concert is valued more than playing bridge, and either of these is valued more than watching the game. We cannot say that going to a concert is valued “twice as much” as watching the game; the numbers two and four cannot be subject to processes of addition, multiplication, etc.[4]
In order for any measurement to be possible, there must be an eternally fixed and objectively given unit with which other units may be compared. There is no such objective unit in the field of human valuation. The individual must determine subjectively for himself whether he is better or worse off as a result of any change. His preference can only be expressed in terms of simple choice, or rank. Thus, he can say, "I am better off" or "I am happier" because he went to a concert instead of playing bridge (or "I will be better off" for going to the concert), but it would be completely meaningless for him to try to assign units to his preference and say, "I am two and a half times happier because of this choice than I would have been playing bridge." Two and a half times what? There is no possible unit of happiness that can be used for purposes of comparison and, hence, of addition or multiplication. Therefore, values cannot be measured; values or utilities cannot be added, subtracted, or multiplied. They can only be ranked as better or worse. A man may know that he is or will be happier or less happy, but not by "how much".
Accordingly, the numbers by which ends are ranked on value scales are ordinal, not cardinal, numbers. Ordinal numbers are only ranked; they cannot be subject to the processes of measurement. Thus, in the above example, all we can say is that going to a concert is valued more than playing bridge, and either of these is valued more than watching the game. We cannot say that going to a concert is valued “twice as much” as watching the game; the numbers two and four cannot be subject to processes of addition, multiplication, etc.[4]
"Value is a judgment economizing men make about the importance of the goods at their disposal for the maintenance of their lives and well-being. Hence value does not exist outside the consciousness of men."[5]
- Even though beauty is objective (A straight nose is more aesthetic than a hooked one/A proportional mouth is more aesthetic than a disproportional one and so on) it is NOT possible do objectively calculate the value of these things. As Mises explains "the numbers by which ends are ranked on value scales are ordinal, not cardinal, numbers." you can not add a numerical value to something even if it's something that is universally preferred.
Straight nose - +0.25
Hooked nose - +0.10
Hooked and deviated nose - +0.00
That's not how it works, the way it works is:
Straight nose > Hooked nose > Hooked and deviated nose
You need to rank these aesthetic components on what is more aesthetic. The same thing applies to other stuff such as dark circles. It's universally accepted that NO dark circles is more aesthetic than any form of dark circles. But how are you supposed to define a numerical value of how much dark circles detract from your looks? You CAN'T!
You can say that a strong vascular dark circle is less unaesthetic than a mild hyperpigmentation dark circle, but you can NOT add a numerical value to them.
I had this discussion before here:
Another important point about giving numerical rating values that I discussed on this thread were:
A 10/10 rating on the other hand, although it's a fraction number just like 100/100, it's more based on a deduction or addition of your rating based not on how you compare to others but how you compare to a hypothetical perfect human being (10/10) and a "deformed one" (0/10). The problem is:
1- You don't know what a 10/10 looks like, not because it doesn't exist, but because you'll need to know everything about what makes a perfect face
2- The same thing applies to the 0/0
3- You can not compute how much each feature will add or subtract on the rating
4- You can not compute how much each "level" of these features will deduct on the rating (how much do dark circles detract from someone's rating? What if it's really strong? Which one detracts more pigmentar dark circles or vascular ones?)
At the end of the day it's just a subjective rating just like any other with the difference being:
1- People here understand more about looks than normies
2- People here are autistic to the point of rating 8/8 for "leaving room for subjectivity" but they are too stupid to understand that 8/8 and 10/10 are the exact same thing because both are fractions representing 100%, and even if it was 8/10, 2 points for subjectivity is A LOT
In short, PSL scale is pure autism
I've had this discussion with @Tyrionlannistercel before as well, I don't remember in what thread.
- Another problem with rating is the 'Illusory truth effect': "when you keep seeing false things over and over repeated for long enough time, you'll believe it, even if your instincts initially told you otherwise and you didn't believe it."
Important Phenomenon about Users/Ascensions/Ratings
I'm gonna present 2 psychological tricks. They use these psychological tricks in media, politics, general advertisement, everywhere. These psychological effects are present here, they affect looksmaxxing methods, user ratings, blackpill ideologies etc. Everything that is.. visual basically 1...
looksmax.org
I won't go in detail about this, I'd just like to add that once you become friend with someone, or you instinctively come to the conclusion that rating that person higher than he really is will give you a benefit such as keeping his friendship, avoiding that he doxxs you, showing that you're empathetic or some shit, your rating will already be subjective and messed up.
- Lastly, going back to that initial thread
You should NEVER ask a woman to rate someone based on a 1-10 scale, not only we already know that is flawed, but most importantly: Women rate men on an almost binary system:
You're either attractive
OR you're really ugly
Except for "OMG! OMG! OMG! HE'S SO HOT!!!!!" these are the only two alternatives that you can be rated as a man. That's why you see some women rating Barrett as a perfect 10/10 prince, and others rating him as a 3/10
And this is not because he looks feminine, same shit happens even to Henry Cavill.
You can check these three videos and you'll see that all the women rate the guys either 1-3/10 or +8/10, there's no in-between:
Niggas here would rate him probably a 5-6psl:
Her rate??
1/10
Just because he looks too young. He probably doesn't think he's aesthetically ugly, but that doesn't matter, he isn't attractive or have sex appeal to attract her. DONE
Same shit happens with the other girls, it's a binary system, Attractive vs Not-Attractive.
Just because he looks too young. He probably doesn't think he's aesthetically ugly, but that doesn't matter, he isn't attractive or have sex appeal to attract her. DONE
Same shit happens with the other girls, it's a binary system, Attractive vs Not-Attractive.
- I'd even say a Likert type scale would be superior to a rating PSL /8 or /10 scale. However, that would still be mental subjective masturbation at the end of the day. My point with this is: STOP asking for ratings, they won't tell you anything about your place in the sexual market. Don't ask for a rating, ask for what are your failos and what to fix, both aesthetically speaking as well as in terms of subjective attractiveness, that's what matters the most.
SEX APPEAL MAXXING {Official Guide}
1) DEEP VOICE Voice, as a secondary sexual characteristic, is known to affect the perceived attractiveness of human individuals. Men with deeper/low-pitched voices signal large body size (which is sexually dimorphic), attract more women, father more children, intimidate other men, and command...looksmax.org
I'd even edit better this thread, but I don't want to waste any more of my time with this shit, gonna work now, I need money too many looksmaxxing things to buy. Looks are everything anyway.
Tdlr: women think in 0 and 1, and are not more advanced than a 1950 computer
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