Women never want ONS

no they dont, that's fucking retarded.

and hows it related to u being better than me? most people are better than me, I openly.say that I've been called bottom 2% of men.

regardless of that, i know most women would LTR me, but none would ONS me, hence my point.

da fuq man

@danielwu
So LTR then, and then pump and dump them like all players do LMFAOOOOO
 
So LTR then, and then pump and dump them like all players do LMFAOOOOO
what I do or dont do is irrelevant bhai, but rest assured I wont be some bitch boy letting girls use him as a second class citizen, I'd much rather go MGTOW.

the point I was making is ur post can be misleading to people
 
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what I do or dont do is irrelevant bhai, but rest assured I wont be some bitch boy letting girls use him as a second class citizen, I'd much rather go MGTOW.

the point I was making is ur post can be misleading to people
Why go mgtow when you can make false promises and get laid regularly instead?
 
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ONS are the female equivalent of betabuxxing
 
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Yeah as in it’s a carrrot on a stick to attract a partner
No I mean, as in, women will ONS men who mog them to be able to have some sort of access to him (their goal is always to ltr) in the same way that a betabuxxer uses betabuxxing to ltr a woman who mogs him.

Basically offering something to their betters in exchange for access.
 
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No I mean, as in, women will ONS men who mog them to be able to have some sort of access to him (their goal is always to ltr) in the same way that a betabuxxer uses betabuxxing to ltr a woman who mogs him.

Basically offering something to their betters in exchange for access.
Serious question.

Is this how you get situations of a single parent producing a mogger son?

My grandad was a betabuxxer and my grandmother was a mogger and my dad was a pretty good looking guy ngl. This has always fascinated me because women do it as well with ONS resulting in an unwanted pregnancy and producing a mogger son that "looks just like the hunk she fucked".

So a more relevant question should be...if one desires (truly desires) to have kids shouldn't a man try his chances with someone better looking than him, and the same goes for women with ONS?
 
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Very often these girls have depression, borderline, traumas and/or got their heart broken brutally. They try to fill their emptines with random hookups.
You described half of the women
 
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What??? No, ltr is equal to betabuxxing, unless I misunderstood u
I’m saying that the FEMALE equivalent of a MALE betabuxx is a becky who ONS a good looking guy. Just like how an average or below man will offer a good looking girl something (money, betabuxx) in exchange for being in an ltr, an average or below girl can offer a good looking guy something (her body with absolutely no strings attached) in exchange for basically his attention for a moment (very sad, very sad)

Guys who complain about women being able to ons easily never understand that these things are swapped between genders

Ltr for man = ons for woman
Ons for man = ltr for woman
A man usually prioritizes ons over ltrs (use this site for evidence of that) while a woman usually prioritizes ltrs over ons.
 
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Serious question.

Is this how you get situations of a single parent producing a mogger son?

My grandad was a betabuxxer and my grandmother was a mogger and my dad was a pretty good looking guy ngl. This has always fascinated me because women do it as well with ONS resulting in an unwanted pregnancy and producing a mogger son that "looks just like the hunk she fucked".

So a more relevant question should be...if one desires (truly desires) to have kids shouldn't a man try his chances with someone better looking than him, and the same goes for women with ONS?
From what I’ve seen moggers tend to come about by pure chance over anything. Two normies can create a mogger (and i think if you look at most moggers, their parents will be normies) and two moggers can create a normie. There probably is a higher chance for the kid to be a mogger if he has at least one mogger parent though, I just don’t know by how much

I would imagine two moggers are low capped at creating a normie and two subhumans are high capped at creating a normie though. I can’t imagine two subhumans making a mogger or two moggers making a subhuman, but idk maybe that’s not even true either
 
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I’m saying that the FEMALE equivalent of a MALE betabuxx is a becky who ONS a good looking guy. Just like how an average or below man will offer a good looking girl something (money, betabuxx) in exchange for being in an ltr, an average or below girl can offer a good looking guy something (her body with absolutely no strings attached) in exchange for basically his attention for a moment (very sad, very sad)

Guys who complain about women being able to ons easily never understand that these things are swapped between genders

Ltr for man = ons for woman
Ons for man = ltr for woman
A man usually prioritizes ons over ltrs (use this site for evidence of that) while a woman usually prioritizes ltrs over ons.
Do you think are possible both LTR-LTR ? idk High PSL man and girl or looks matched this is possible mutal LTR
 
Literally how could anyone think this? Have you ever met a woman? Maybe they just don't want ONS with you JFL
 
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Agree because she keep coming back to me, everytime after she had ONS with random BBC
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I’m saying that the FEMALE equivalent of a MALE betabuxx is a becky who ONS a good looking guy. Just like how an average or below man will offer a good looking girl something (money, betabuxx) in exchange for being in an ltr, an average or below girl can offer a good looking guy something (her body with absolutely no strings attached) in exchange for basically his attention for a moment (very sad, very sad)

Guys who complain about women being able to ons easily never understand that these things are swapped between genders

Ltr for man = ons for woman
Ons for man = ltr for woman
A man usually prioritizes ons over ltrs (use this site for evidence of that) while a woman usually prioritizes ltrs over ons.
Ok sure, get what you're saying and yeah prob right in most cases.

However there are defo foids who prioritize ONS cos they get crazy Dopamine spikes from taking a the 7+ guy home and seeing his abs, monster porn star size dick and getting fucked etc.
 
I'm sorry but you could not be more wrong.

women do want ONS, and many of them, and only with very very elite men.

once they think they have had every type of elite man there is for in ONS, they will start looking for an LTR, and here they wont look for the highest value guy, they will look for average or below average, but also not super low value.
Yes, but addendum: They will hope that by some miracle, the ONS with the chad turns into a relationship. That is the woman’s ultimate goal. Best genes, best provision. However, rarely are both satisfied due to differences in market demand for chads vs non-chads.
 
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Yes, but addendum: They will hope that by some miracle, the ONS with the chad turns into a relationship. That is the woman’s ultimate goal. Best genes, best provision. However, rarely are both satisfied due to differences in market demand for chads vs non-chads.
Also big difference in what chad or non chad bring to table
 
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Ok sure, get what you're saying and yeah prob right in most cases.

However there are defo foids who prioritize ONS cos they get crazy Dopamine spikes from taking a the 7+ guy home and seeing his abs, monster porn star size dick and getting fucked etc.
Maybe if she has a hormone problem so she’s high T af, roided girls for sure do that

But even they will be secretly hoping that chad locks them down.
 
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Do you think are possible both LTR-LTR ? idk High PSL man and girl or looks matched this is possible mutal LTR
I don’t know what you’re asking
Could you rephrase?
 
Idk, most girls here are openly sluts and talk about past hookups
 
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very high IQ thread and an interesting angle that I never considered before (women pretending to want ONS to weed out players)

reminds me of one of my interactions recently

so I matched with this girl and we went on a date , the date went great and she invited me over to her place for the 2nd date
we made out but didn't fuck since she had to go to work (she also told me she wasn't looking for anything serious and was seeing other guys as well ,and asked me if I was fine with it - I said no problem)

we planned to meet after a week
then she ghosted me
so I texted her - you don't have to ghost me just cuz you met another guy , also ,you don't have to fear LTR since I'm not looking for that as well ( my logic was she was scared I would try to LTR her , hence ignoring me)

now this is where it got interesting - she finally replied, and said - yeah,I said I wasn't looking for anything serious then,but now I want "something more" , so its better we end it here
That was the last time I spoke to her

the biggest irony is that I had actually lied when she asked me if I was looking for anything serious,because I was - she was a 10/10 for me and I would have deleted the app and LTR'ed her up immediately)

Now,after reading this thread , I wonder if things would have been different if I had just told her the truth

But OP's post also raises some questions:-

1.If all women want LTR , then why do we see women complaining that men are so clingy , women ghosting guys who get serious too fast (literally every PUA coach advises to not show too much interest)

2.What about the chadfish experiments where women are DTF in 2 texts ?

3.Lying to girls and promising them LTR's when all you want to do is pump and dump can backfire sometimes if the girl is crazy
there is reason they say - hell hath no fury like a women scorned

one of my buddies is in prison right now on false rape charges because he used to do OP's exact strategy

there are girls who want NSA sex as well , not correct of OP to say EVERY girl wants LTR
eventually every girl wants LTR , but not every girl wants LTR right now

The reason women wanted LTR's in the past was because they needed a man to provide food (by hunting in the past , or betabuxxing in the present ) and shelter
women are much more financially independent nowadays and don't need a man anymore to look after them
so now they only sleep with chad aka ONS
LTR with chad would be ideal , but women don't mind if it doesn't happen
 
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this is legit IF you're not Chad
with Chads yes, women fall in love with them, and also are desperate for any crumble of attention even if it's getting used by Chad
 
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Very often these girls have depression, borderline, traumas and/or got their heart broken brutally. They try to fill their emptines with random hookups.

@op i totally agree. When we guys see a hot girl, out hunter instincts kick in and we want to fuck her as soon as possible. Without talking or dating would even be the best case scenario.
When a girl sees a hot guy, she gets romantic feelings and wants to get to know him completely. Her instincts are pointing towards love and relationship.
Depends what the guy looks like

If hes some low sex appeal pretty boy twink she will be thinking about an LTR

If its a 6'5 gymcelled roman reigns lookalike, she will be thinking about his cock pounding her that very moment
 
Well said.
I think that's why @Niko69 got ghosted on hinge lately if you have seen his latest post.
you know the story behind your Avi right?
girl went to have BDSM sex with some 50 to guy lmaooo
 
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you know the story behind your Avi right?
girl went to have BDSM sex with some 50 to guy lmaooo
Yes, a woman named Jenny Gamez
She was found in. A suitcase
 
very high IQ thread and an interesting angle that I never considered before (women pretending to want ONS to weed out players)

reminds me of one of my interactions recently

so I matched with this girl and we went on a date , the date went great and she invited me over to her place for the 2nd date
we made out but didn't fuck since she had to go to work (she also told me she wasn't looking for anything serious and was seeing other guys as well ,and asked me if I was fine with it - I said no problem)

we planned to meet after a week
then she ghosted me
so I texted her - you don't have to ghost me just cuz you met another guy , also ,you don't have to fear LTR since I'm not looking for that as well ( my logic was she was scared I would try to LTR her , hence ignoring me)

now this is where it got interesting - she finally replied, and said - yeah,I said I wasn't looking for anything serious then,but now I want "something more" , so its better we end it here
That was the last time I spoke to her

the biggest irony is that I had actually lied when she asked me if I was looking for anything serious,because I was - she was a 10/10 for me and I would have deleted the app and LTR'ed her up immediately)

Now,after reading this thread , I wonder if things would have been different if I had just told her the truth

But OP's post also raises some questions:-

1.If all women want LTR , then why do we see women complaining that men are so clingy , women ghosting guys who get serious too fast (literally every PUA coach advises to not show too much interest)

2.What about the chadfish experiments where women are DTF in 2 texts ?

3.Lying to girls and promising them LTR's when all you want to do is pump and dump can backfire sometimes if the girl is crazy
there is reason they say - hell hath no fury like a women scorned

one of my buddies is in prison right now on false rape charges because he used to do OP's exact strategy

there are girls who want NSA sex as well , not correct of OP to say EVERY girl wants LTR
eventually every girl wants LTR , but not every girl wants LTR right now

The reason women wanted LTR's in the past was because they needed a man to provide food (by hunting in the past , or betabuxxing in the present ) and shelter
women are much more financially independent nowadays and don't need a man anymore to look after them
so now they only sleep with chad aka ONS
LTR with chad would be ideal , but women don't mind if it doesn't happen

I answered why women don’t like clingy men, because clingy men demand commitment from women, women want commitment from you… but don’t want to commit to you. They’re hypocritical cunts and the only sensible way to treat them is selfishly and pump and dump them all.

https://looksmax.org/threads/the-real-reason-women-dont-like-clingy-men.594537/#post-9614441

All women want LTRs whether theyre consciously aware of it or not, they lose all sexual attraction to men that they believe will leave them. Just because they call the relationship a different label doesn’t change the fact they want the man to stay.

Read earlier in this thread OP, I mentioned earlier to another poster that women pretend to want ONS and ghost you shortly afterwards. Your woman slipped by saying she wanted an LTR, she should have just left you in the dust. Now you know the truth.

Just trust me, anytime a woman claims she’s not looking for anything serious refuse and lie through your teeth. Be very vague though.

“I’m not looking for anything serious.”

Reply to that “Well I was kinda hoping for something serious.” And continue trying to get your cock in her pants. If you have money and muscle/looks she would have let you soon afterwards.

You got played because you weren’t the player.
 
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Just trust me, anytime a woman claims she’s not looking for anything serious refuse and lie through your teeth. Be very vague though.

“I’m not looking for anything serious.”

Reply to that “Well I was kinda hoping for something serious.” And continue trying to get your cock in her pants.
good advice ,I'm gonna try this from now on

but what about crazy girls who get super mad once they find out you played them ?

like I said - one of my friends is in prison now ,cuz he played her and she pressed rape charges
 
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good advice ,I'm gonna try this from now on

but what about crazy girls who get super mad once they find out you played them ?

like I said - one of my friends is in prison now ,cuz he played her and she pressed rape charges

People lie all the time and in your situation someone HAS to be lying.

Either the rape allegations are false and the girl is the liar.

OR your the tapes allegations are true and your friend is the liar.

I would say more often than not the second is true. Or maybe something in between, he got too touchy when she asked him to stop and he kept going and stopped only after she screamed.

Women rarely make blatantly false rape allegations out the blue especially on people they were close with.

Police, despite contrary belief, ARE good judge of character. If two parties are lying I’d say they are right when they side 75% of the time. If you’re not a rapist and she wasn’t genuinely raped you will almost certainly beat your case if this ever does happen. She has to not only fool police but specialists who deal with sexually abused victims.

Your friend is most likely guilty of the crime he committed or something similar.

Also, if youre this concerned about this occurring take steroids and build a lot of muscle tissue. And be aggressive during the relationship. If you make her your submissive bitch she won’t oppose you and will accept whatever the fuck you do to her, including abandon her.
 
Women rarely make blatantly false rape allegations out the blue especially on people they were close with.
that's when you're talking about normal women , not mentally ill girls

the girl in question was an MTB , my friend was a chad
she was crushing on him for almost 2 years before they hooked up
he promised her he was gonna "wife her up" and other BS , so much so that she invited her friends to the supposed wedding months in advance lol

when she found out she got played,she was furious
 
love letters
after I get her love letter, are we gonna get ice cream and pizza after the generic marvel movie 5?

I agree with you tho buddy boyo. Say what woman wants to hear then deny everything that you specifically said what she wanted to hear. Patrick Bateman-maxxing at its finest.
 
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that's when you're talking about normal women , not mentally ill girls

the girl in question was an MTB , my friend was a chad
she was crushing on him for almost 2 years before they hooked up
he promised her he was gonna "wife her up" and other BS , so much so that she invited her friends to the supposed wedding months in advance lol

when she found out she got played,she was furious
after I get her love letter, are we gonna get ice cream and pizza after the generic marvel movie 5?
Mine was Soda and Burrito at a taco truck and the Jurassic Park movie.

Yours seem higher class. Jelly
 
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Honestly might be high IQ. Every time a girl has been down to fuck me without obviously saying it, I tell her to fuck and she avoids it. Unless you are gigachad you actually have to take girls on a date and make her think you want something real
 
that's when you're talking about normal women , not mentally ill girls

the girl in question was an MTB , my friend was a chad
she was crushing on him for almost 2 years before they hooked up
he promised her he was gonna "wife her up" and other BS , so much so that she invited her friends to the supposed wedding months in advance lol

when she found out she got played,she was furious
after I get her love letter, are we gonna get ice cream and pizza after the generic marvel movie 5?
Mine was Soda and Burrito at a taco truck and the Jurassic Park movie.

Yours seem higher class. Jelly
Honestly might be high IQ. Every time a girl has been down to fuck me without obviously saying it, I tell her to fuck and she avoids it. Unless you are gigachad you actually have to take girls on a date and make her think you want something real
gigachad checking in to explain that you still need to make them believe you offer commitment
 
Mine was Soda and Burrito at a taco truck and the Jurassic Park movie.

Yours seem higher class. Jelly

gigachad checking in to explain that you still need to make them believe you offer commitment
Yea honestly, one of the chads from my highschool used to do this every time. Although he got a pretty bad rep about it
 
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Yeah once the environment knows you’re a player you’re not fooling any bitches no more, you gotta dip or stick to women who are legit gold diggers.
 
Yeah once the environment knows you’re a player you’re not fooling any bitches no more, you gotta dip or stick to women who are legit gold diggers.
How would you go about it then, lets say you are in college
 
How would you go about it then, lets say you are in college
Idk never slayed consistently in college when I get rich and go back to school ask me then
 
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They’re always looking for LTRs with the best man they can find.

If a woman wants a ONS she’s testing you to see if you’re a pump and dumpers or a legit loyal partner with possibility of commitment. If you’re anything like me (and you are) you’re always the first, and never the second.

And if you like the idea of a ONS and she sees that, you fail her test. And thus her legs have closed for you.

When a woman tells you she wants a ONS or or she’s a kinky slut, don’t sperg out and condemn and dont jump with joy. Simply tell her you’re very interested in her but also hoping for “something more” or “something deeper.” Be vague about it.

You’ll pass the test but she likely won’t give it up immediately. Take her on a date, a few cute gifts, feed her, and then fuck her good, get her to worship you if you can pull that off, and once you’ve enjoyed yourself it’s time to press the discard button. I recommend finding another woman before doing this or if you’re just really bored with the loser you’re currently with. Keep love letters and little Knick knacks as trophies and hang them on a wall.

Women do this A LOT, they claim to want something they don’t actually want to see if the man retorts. Women scared of violent men usually say they love being beaten to see the man’s reaction.

My ex did both of the above. Claimed to want a ONS yet I insisted on more (cuz at the time I was foolish enough to actually want more) and she said “are you just telling me what I want to hear?” I’m like thinking to myself “why tf would you want to hear that when you went out of your way to tell me you specifically didn’t want that?” Other signs was she gave me a ring and asked me to give it back if “I’m not serious” despite again, claiming to not want anything serious.

Women are lying if they’re looking for fun. And until you learn to stop falling for this shit test you’ll never be able to pump and dump and break their hearts.

I have faith in all you kings. Make promises, and break promises!
This is one of the most cucked bluepilled things I've read on here. There's tons of guys that bag girls on the first night of meeting them.

If you're interested in a ltr with a girl you should be more concerned with her passing YOUR tests or vetting process than anything she might try throwing your way. Cute gifts? Feeding her? Tisk tisk.

Give her no gifts and forget whichever month Valentine's day even falls under.
 
They’re always looking for LTRs with the best man they can find.

If a woman wants a ONS she’s testing you to see if you’re a pump and dumpers or a legit loyal partner with possibility of commitment. If you’re anything like me (and you are) you’re always the first, and never the second.

And if you like the idea of a ONS and she sees that, you fail her test. And thus her legs have closed for you.

When a woman tells you she wants a ONS or or she’s a kinky slut, don’t sperg out and condemn and dont jump with joy. Simply tell her you’re very interested in her but also hoping for “something more” or “something deeper.” Be vague about it.

You’ll pass the test but she likely won’t give it up immediately. Take her on a date, a few cute gifts, feed her, and then fuck her good, get her to worship you if you can pull that off, and once you’ve enjoyed yourself it’s time to press the discard button. I recommend finding another woman before doing this or if you’re just really bored with the loser you’re currently with. Keep love letters and little Knick knacks as trophies and hang them on a wall.

Women do this A LOT, they claim to want something they don’t actually want to see if the man retorts. Women scared of violent men usually say they love being beaten to see the man’s reaction.

My ex did both of the above. Claimed to want a ONS yet I insisted on more (cuz at the time I was foolish enough to actually want more) and she said “are you just telling me what I want to hear?” I’m like thinking to myself “why tf would you want to hear that when you went out of your way to tell me you specifically didn’t want that?” Other signs was she gave me a ring and asked me to give it back if “I’m not serious” despite again, claiming to not want anything serious.

Women are lying if they’re looking for fun. And until you learn to stop falling for this shit test you’ll never be able to pump and dump and break their hearts.

I have faith in all you kings. Make promises, and break promises!
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A wall of cope
 
no they dont, that's fucking retarded.

and hows it related to u being better than me? most people are better than me, I openly.say that I've been called bottom 2% of men.

regardless of that, i know most women would LTR me, but none would ONS me, hence my point.

da fuq man

@danielwu
I totally agree what this post is about. Women do always look for LTR with the best men they can find.
I have 4 sisters and they always find the best dude they can find into marrying them and a cheated gf who now married to that same guy who she cheated on me with and he is a 8/10
The fact behind women settle for ugly good guys is because maybe the girls can’t get the hot ones to LTR them, like I said: the best they can find, doesnt equal to they are really the best in the market.
 
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if they are not LTR worthy then just pretend that you are open to the idea of a relationship, after a while pretend to date her so you get unlimited sex, then after you are bored block her and move on
 
Retarded thread
 
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I totally agree what this post is about. Women do always look for LTR with the best men they can find.
I have 4 sisters and they always find the best dude they can find into marrying them and a cheated gf who now married to that same guy who she cheated on me with and he is a 8/10
The fact behind women settle for ugly good guys is because maybe the girls can’t get the hot ones to LTR them, like I said: the best they can find, doesnt equal to they are really the best in the market.
Its cope, women dont want to ltr extremely high quality men that are unreal its too much of a mog for them. They just want someone that looks good enough. Trust me you all don’t know shit
 
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