Would you ever live in Switzerland or Japan

[Deleted member 14774]

Doctor of medicine and the net salary is 490 000 CHF once I finished training

25 year old

Wtf.
What country are you from? Because in the UK at 25 I’m pretty sure doctors are making the equivalent of less than 50k CHF
And what age will you finish training?

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Wtf.
What country are you from? Because in the UK at 25 I’m pretty sure doctors are making the equivalent of less than 50k CHF
And what age will you finish training?

NHS is notoriously known for low compensation it is the opposite of Ireland. I will be finished by the age of 31 if everything goes as planned.

 

[Deleted member 15791]

I have a job opportunity to be working in both

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I have been contemplating about this for a month now and have done a lot of research but haven't come to conclusion by myself.

Where would you live?

Chun z‘üs ide Schwiiz, isch Eis vo de besti länd vo de welt

 

[Deleted member 15791]

A lot of ethnics in Switzerland tho

 

[JBcollector]

Obviously Switzerland

 

[Deleted member 15004]

I have a job opportunity to be working in both

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I have been contemplating about this for a month now and have done a lot of research but haven't come to conclusion by myself.

Where would you live?

Japan yes Switzerland fuck no

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

A lot of ethnics in Switzerland tho

I like ethnics as well

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Obviously Switzerland

elaborate please

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Japan yes Switzerland fuck no

The former commentor begs to differ

 

[Alexanderr]

Crazy how many people actually chose Japan. Switzerland is a no brainer.

 

[Deleted member 14262]

@Acromegaly_Chad

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Crazy how many people actually chose Japan. Switzerland is a no brainer.

They are in the same league imo

 

[Alexanderr]

They are in the same league imo

If you grew up in western society, living in Japan will be a culture shock. Not necessarily a nice one either.

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

So I live in Switzerland and study law & econ so I know the system pretty well.

But to sort it out directly: If you are rice or east Asian, go to Japan no question. Swiss society is VERY reserved and I know many foreigners, even Germans who only lived like 10km from the border before they moved here and are culturally very close, who became desperate after a few years and have given up socially.
So you will have a VERY hard time to find friends not to mention a GF.

Hypergamy is through the roof I had more matches in New York, LA or London than in Zurich.

Concerning working hours: 42 hours is standard, but of course there are some sectors where 80-100 hours is standard and not really protected by law in practice.

Forget to ever be able to afford a house or a nice flat. You will have to rent. If you earn 10k/month in Zurich you will be poor.
Even with 15k/month you will live a very basic life. My parents together make ~25k and we still have a standard life.

Everybody says Switz has nice nature etc but that is only true for some regions. The economically important regions are mostly the German speaking part and of that Zurich and Basel which are not too beautiful and these cities are also not exciting/good for lifestyle compared to Tokyo.

So TLDR: As a rice foreigner who doesn't speak German and is a poor fuck, you will have a hard time to become happy in Switzerland. Therefore I say go to Japan.

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

So I live in Switzerland and study law & econ so I know the system pretty well.

But to sort it out directly: If you are rice or east Asian, go to Japan no question. Swiss society is VERY reserved and I know many foreigners, even Germans who only lived like 10km from the border before they moved here and are culturally very close, who became desperate after a few years and have given up socially.
So you will have a VERY hard time to find friends not to mention a GF.

Hypergamy is through the roof I had more matches in New York, LA or London than in Zurich.

Concerning working hours: 42 hours is standard, but of course there are some sectors where 80-100 hours is standard and not really protected by law in practice.

Forget to ever be able to afford a house or a nice flat. You will have to rent. If you earn 10k/month in Zurich you will be poor.
Even with 15k/month you will live a very basic life. My parents together make ~25k and we still have a standard life.

Everybody says Switz has nice nature etc but that is only true for some regions. The economically important regions are mostly the German speaking part and of that Zurich and Basel which are not too beautiful and these cities are also not exciting/good for lifestyle compared to Tokyo.

So TLDR: As a rice foreigner who doesn't speak German and is a poor fuck, you will have a hard time to become happy in Switzerland. Therefore I say go to Japan.

@subhuman incel can confirm he is poor as shit and basically lives like a street dog in his plague ridden shithole city that has won awards for being the ugliest place in Switz

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

So I live in Switzerland and study law & econ so I know the system pretty well.

But to sort it out directly: If you are rice or east Asian, go to Japan no question. Swiss society is VERY reserved and I know many foreigners, even Germans who only lived like 10km from the border before they moved here and are culturally very close, who became desperate after a few years and have given up socially.
So you will have a VERY hard time to find friends not to mention a GF.

Hypergamy is through the roof I had more matches in New York, LA or London than in Zurich.

Concerning working hours: 42 hours is standard, but of course there are some sectors where 80-100 hours is standard and not really protected by law in practice.

Forget to ever be able to afford a house or a nice flat. You will have to rent. If you earn 10k/month in Zurich you will be poor.
Even with 15k/month you will live a very basic life. My parents together make ~25k and we still have a standard life.

Everybody says Switz has nice nature etc but that is only true for some regions. The economically important regions are mostly the German speaking part and of that Zurich and Basel which are not too beautiful and these cities are also not exciting/good for lifestyle compared to Tokyo.

So TLDR: As a rice foreigner who doesn't speak German and is a poor fuck, you will have a hard time to become happy in Switzerland. Therefore I say go to Japan.

I have lived in Norway and Switzerland before it is true that Swiss are reserved but can’t be compare to Norwegian.
I have a group of expats whom I am close with in Switzerland.
I will be moving to Lausanne so it is culturally similar to the French and I speak French
I know that the standard working hours is 42 hours but my occupation requires me to work >50 h
my income would be 24k CHF so I will be fine financially

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

If you grew up in western society, living in Japan will be a culture shock. Not necessarily a nice one either.

I have lived in East asia, SEA, USA, eastern and northen Europe. Seen it all so no culture for me

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

I have lived in Norway and Switzerland before it is true that Swiss are reserved but can’t be compare to Norwegian.
I have a group of expats whom I am close with in Switzerland.
I will be moving to Lausanne so it is culturally similar to the French and I speak French
I know that the standard working hours is 42 hours but my occupation requires me to work >50 h
my income would be 24k CHF so I will be fine financially

What's the job you will work in?
Lausanne/the romandie is better socially/culturally indeed.
But expect it to be boring nonetheless
>50 hours is still peanuts at law firms we do 80 hours you should work more

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

What's the job you will work in?
Lausanne/the romandie is better socially/culturally indeed.
But expect it to be boring nonetheless
>50 hours is still peanuts at law firms we do 80 hours you should work more

How old are you and what job is this that you’re getting 200k CHF?

Doctor of medicine and the net salary is 490 000 CHF once I finished training

25 year old

^from the 1st page

also i dont want to learn Japanese it is too hard

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

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[Acromegaly_Chad]

Doctor of medicine and the net salary is 490 000 CHF once I finished training

25 year old

^from the 1st page

also i dont want to learn Japanese it is too hard

I see so you want to start working as a doctor in the hospital? Have you just finished university or have you already completed your residency? Because that makes a HUGE difference here

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

I see so you want to start working as a doctor in the hospital? Have you just finished university or have you already completed your residency? Because that makes a HUGE difference here

I have just graduated

 

[House Lannister]

Japan is apparently one of the worst places to live in as a foreigner and I guess Switzerland would be much friendlier but wouldn’t allow u to function normally unless you’re a tall white guy

 

[3links2]

I have a job opportunity to be working in both

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I have been contemplating about this for a month now and have done a lot of research but haven't come to conclusion by myself.

Where would you live?

Go to japan they are pretty westernized and obsessed with foreigners. I know white, black, and maybe latino guys slay there, public transportation is really convenient as well and theres no need to have a car.

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Go to japan they are pretty westernized and obsessed with foreigners. I know white, black, and maybe latino guys slay there, public transportation is really convenient as well and theres no need to have a car.

Japan is apparently one of the worst places to live in as a foreigner and I guess Switzerland would be much friendlier but wouldn’t allow u to function normally unless you’re a tall white guy

my last two brain cells

 

[Deleted member 1209]

Switzerland. Japan is a shithole where you will be overworked like a slave working 3-4 hours overtime with only the first 2 payed for. It’s the nation of wagie slaves

Switzerland is a capitalist shithole but at least they don’t make you work overtime as a norm. So Switzerland. Also wome. Are white and thus better looking

he'll probably be fine if he works for a western company

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

he'll probably be fine if he works for a western company

At the hospital

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

he'll probably be fine if he works for a western company

It’s still Japan they will work him like a slave in that nation. Japan is the onyl EA nation open to immagrints and they get none due to being overpopulated and the shit lives of the avg Jap person being that of a wageslave 10x. Syrians would rather come to Germany and sit their lazy asses in an Islamic enclave getting benifits from the government for not working

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

I have just graduated

Yeah well JFL residency in Switzerland is 6+ years in hospitals with the salary going from 80k-110k and while the law technically says 50 hours you will be there for at least 60/hours a week.

After residency you will be "Oberarzt" and then "leitender Oberarzt" with salaries for these topping out at 200k at age of ~45. If you are very lucky you will reach the highest rank by 50 and then eventually earned the claimed 490k.

But yeah if you graduated from a good uni you shall come we have shortage of docs

 

[TITUS]

I have a job opportunity to be working in both

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I have been contemplating about this for a month now and have done a lot of research but haven't come to conclusion by myself.

Where would you live?

Switzerland hands down. How did you get the job offer, what you do? i want to move to Switzerland too.

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Yeah well JFL residency in Switzerland is 6+ years in hospitals with the salary going from 80k-110k and while the law technically says 50 hours you will be there for at least 60/hours a week.

After residency you will be "Oberarzt" and then "leitender Oberarzt" with salaries for these topping out at 200k at age of ~45. If you are very lucky you will reach the highest rank by 50 and then eventually earned the claimed 490k.

But yeah if you graduated from a good uni you shall come we have shortage of docs

I have braced myself to work 80h/week my aunt was a nurse there she claims doctor didnt have to work 80 hours/week but thats so wrong its only because she opted for 75% of the total work hours.

tbh my only chance would be psychiatry and internal medicine.

I will be a good doctor buddy

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

It’s still Japan they will work him like a slave in that nation. Japan is the onyl EA nation open to immagrints and they get none due to being overpopulated and the shit lives of the avg Jap person being that of a wageslave 10x. Syrians would rather come to Germany and sit their lazy asses in an Islamic enclave getting benifits from the government for not working

I would still be overworked in Switzerland I am more concerned about social life and what country has to offers

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

I have braced myself to work 80h/week my aunt was a nurse there she claims doctor didnt have to work 80 hours/week but thats so wrong its only because she opted for 75% of the total work hours.

tbh my only chance would be psychiatry and internal medicine.

I will be a good doctor buddy

Yes you shall come and work as a good wage slave in the hospital our heairh insurance is way too high already isn't it @subhuman incel ?

Jokes aside as a doc I'd chose Switz all time because the Japanese health care system is a mess and the working atmosphere at hospitals is beyond fucked there

 

[Ethniframementalcel]

JAPANNNNNNNNNNN

Think of all the tight hot little Japanese bitches running around omg

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Yes you shall come and work as a good wage slave in the hospital our heairh insurance is way too high already isn't it @subhuman incel ?

Jokes aside as a doc I'd chose Switz all time because the Japanese health care system is a mess and the working atmosphere at hospitals is beyond fucked there

I will be a waggie wherever I go anyway. There are 2 concerns I have
1.Japan has many things to offer such as cultural, tradition, foods, pop culture, different terrain from Hokkaido down to Okinawa, beaches, technologies. Whereas, everything in Switz is rigid, foods are expensive but I will still pay for that fondue pot, boring town
2. Being rice in Switzerland is definitely medium-hard mode

 

[Ethniframementalcel]

I will be a waggie wherever I go anyway. There are 2 concerns I have
1.Japan has many things to offer such as cultural, tradition, foods, pop culture, different terrain from Hokkaido down to Okinawa, beaches, technologies. Whereas, everything in Switz is rigid, foods are expensive but I will still pay for that fondue pot, boring town
2. Being rice in Switzerland is definitely medium-hard mode

If you're Asian I would 100% go Japan. Not even a close decision tbh

 

[AlexBrown84]

east Aisia is very far from europe your looking at 24hr flights

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

If you're Asian I would 100% go Japan. Not even a close decision tbh

Brb gotta learn 3000 Kanji just to get by in a year. I need to live in Japan atleast 4 years to be able to comprehend the daily convos

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

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[TITUS]

Yes you shall come and work as a good wage slave in the hospital our heairh insurance is way too high already isn't it @subhuman incel ?

Jokes aside as a doc I'd chose Switz all time because the Japanese health care system is a mess and the working atmosphere at hospitals is beyond fucked there

How can you get to work there?

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

The legend is here. Japan for you?

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

How can you get to work there?

By being an obedient waggie

 

[TITUS]

By being an obedient waggie

Yeah, but just go there with your bags and start looking for jobs?

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Yeah, but just go there with your bags and start looking for jobs?

Doctor are in demand in every countries I think same goes for engineer and IT

 

[AlexBrown84]

Yes Japan obviously

Lol at these indian retards suggesting Switzerland for residency

Choose Switzerland if you want to hate your life

Choose Japan if you want to have fun

Not the same but I lived and worked in Korea and the work life balance is overblown in East Asian countries especially depending on industry

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Yes Japan obviously

Lol at these indian retards suggesting Switzerland for residency

Choose Switzerland if you want to hate your life

Choose Japan if you want to have fun

Not the same but I lived and worked in Korea and the work life balance is overblown in East Asian countries especially depending on industry

Korean girls fog

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

Yes Japan obviously

Lol at these indian retards suggesting Switzerland for residency

Choose Switzerland if you want to hate your life

Choose Japan if you want to have fun

Not the same but I lived and worked in Korea and the work life balance is overblown in East Asian countries especially depending on industry

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

How can you get to work there?

Idk I only have some friends who study medicine I myself dont so idk about the specific requirements

 

[loksr]

Switzerland cause I’m not a weeb or a subhuman jbwmaxxer

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

Idk I only have some friends who study medicine I myself dont so idk about the specific requirements

Is work life balance for doctor there that poor? That’s on par with the US and Japan

i can easily go work in Norway as the work life balance is much better but I just prefer Swiss more culturally speaking