optimisticzoomer
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Why better? And his eyes barely look differentBetter designs
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Why better? And his eyes barely look differentBetter designs
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JFL
And? Where's the evidence this is bad?
yeah it sounded so crazy you would expect to see a gigachad instead he was like MTN or High LTN... brutalNot really, remember that Jewish user who had the OBO, LL etc. he spent 700k to go from low LTN to high LTN/low MTN, his only real improvement was going from 5’8.5” to 6’1.5” but still can’t walk without pain and a limp 4 years later as he did 2 LLs jfl. Obviously his arms would look so fucked now and likely can’t even put his hands in his pockets now, so really, at best, if you have a bad base, you can go from a 2/10 to a 4/10 with unlimited money, but as a 6-7/10, you can get to 9/10 with unlimited money as it’s easier to create halos than eliminate failos.
Yes. I'm saying him saying he can design better implants than other surgeons currently provide for their patients is just his word. And why wouldn't he say that?What is that supposed to mean
You know that bro is not the one performing the surgeries right
And why does he know more than other designers? Either way, I have yet to see any real reason why one should go to turkey or a surgeon he partners with, or use his designs, over going to an already existing surgeon producing good results before giant even was knownSurgeons aren't the ones directly designing those other implants because 3d design is something else entirely and has many barriers (learning complicated softwares)
Designed first combined implant aesthetic OBO all while subcranial, attends/ed medical school to become plastic surgeon, pioneered drop down subraorbital implants, only person on earth with expert knowledge of both surgery and CAD, extensive knowledge of craniomaxillofacial metrics, collaborates with top surgeons, etc.And why does he know more than other designers? Either way, I have yet to see any real reason why one should go to turkey or a surgeon he partners with, or use his designs, over going to an already existing surgeon producing good results before giant even was known
The goals of the surgery is the same regardless, so it doesn't matter. Designers are given a goal of what to achieve, whether they personally are blackpilled or not, and have skill in achieving those results. Not to mention they are working with the surgeonWhy do you know more about aesthetics than a normie?
"Collaborates with top surgeons", then just go to the surgeon yourself. Cut out the middle man.Designed first combined implant aesthetic OBO all while subcranial, attends/ed medical school to become plastic surgeon, pioneered drop down subraorbital implants, only person on earth with expert knowledge of both surgery and CAD, extensive knowledge of craniomaxillofacial metrics, collaborates with top surgeons, etc.
Dude, you’ve been here since 2020. It’s shocking you are unaware of why Giant is better than anything else currently available.
Custom 3D guides and plates at an affordable price with maximum aesthetic balancing, i.e. ability to have a fully comprehensive ascension plan and help finding the surgeons who are best fit for your desired country, price, etc."Collaborates with top surgeons", then just go to the surgeon yourself. Cut out the middle man.
I've already said it's great he is able to provide OBO and other surgeries not usually available. My point is about "basic", in comparison, surgeries like bimax and implants, that are regularly performed with or without him.
There has just been a lot of unnecessary sucking up recently
BuzzwordsCustom 3D guides and plates at an affordable price with maximum aesthetic balancing, i.e. ability to have a fully comprehensive ascension plan and help finding the surgeons who are best fit for your desired country, price, etc.
Can you try to rationally explain how you believe he would not be able to put his hands into his pockets after double LL, please.Not really, remember that Jewish user who had the OBO, LL etc. he spent 700k to go from low LTN to high LTN/low MTN, his only real improvement was going from 5’8.5” to 6’1.5” but still can’t walk without pain and a limp 4 years later as he did 2 LLs jfl. Obviously his arms would look so fucked now and likely can’t even put his hands in his pockets now, so really, at best, if you have a bad base, you can go from a 2/10 to a 4/10 with unlimited money, but as a 6-7/10, you can get to 9/10 with unlimited money as it’s easier to create halos than eliminate failos.
Their Seething because it takes 15 years to save enough indian rupees for thisyeah it sounded so crazy you would expect to see a gigachad instead he was like MTN or High LTN... brutal
Then get on a plane right now, go to Mexico, go to the US southern border, claim asylum and get into the US / get a free road to guaranteed citizenshipSeething because it takes 15 years to save enough indian rupees for this
Not me, rotters here,Then get on a plane right now, go to Mexico, go to the US southern border, claim asylum and get into the US.
Even non looksmaxxer are going to the US cause the $ - they taking action and not just rotting
No excuse my indian bro-me
Surgeons say it themselves “Custom plates are a luxury”. You can’t compare the price of a commodity, aka freehand bimax, to the price of a luxury. But, if you’re going to you need to be aware that custom plates and guides from those “freehand surgeons” would be exponentially more costly.Buzzwords
Result is the same. Bimax with inframalar implants for example.
Also, pricing wise, this Brazilian guy surgery in turkey was like 35k I think, Gaia got bimax with implants for like 23k from ramieri, with better results imo. Also, giant probably takes a cut from the surgery cost too, seeing as he brings clients to surgeons people wouldn't otherwise go to
Arvid was a truecel? This guy?yeah but people put down everyone that looks like shit despite being there a lot of cases of guys that go from truecel to Chad.
Blackgymmax, Arvid, Crisick (idk if hes really photoshoping at this point), Amnesia...
Arvid was a truecel? This guy?
Oh different guy then jfl. Makes sense, the other guy is almost gigachad
forum arvid and arvid hestner aren't the same person, they don't even look alike.Arvid was a truecel? This guy?
It’s a joke, have you seen that guy on instagram? He can’t put his hands in his pockets jfl.Can you try to rationally explain how you believe he would not be able to put his hands into his pockets after double LL, please.
Low PFL- A 22 year old Brazilian requested a moderate/natural prettyboy change.
Custom supraorbital, infraorbital, and chin implants were done alongside a bimax.
- Jaw angles were scraped from the original plan given his initial goals but will be installed soon along with a more masculine chin implant for a complete lower third ascension.
- He previously had botched eyelid surgeries in Brazil.
The case is still in progress FYI
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crazy af bro he didnt even change his smv that much still brutally mogs me tho- A 22 year old Brazilian requested a moderate/natural prettyboy change.
Custom supraorbital, infraorbital, and chin implants were done alongside a bimax.
- Jaw angles were scraped from the original plan given his initial goals but will be installed soon along with a more masculine chin implant for a complete lower third ascension.
- He previously had botched eyelid surgeries in Brazil.
The case is still in progress FYI
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Eyelids didn't respond well to the implants due to previous botched eyelid surgery
But you can see his eyebrows lowered a ton and look more prominent
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Eyelids didn't respond well to the implants due to previous botched eyelid surgery
But you can see his eyebrows lowered a ton and look more prominent
Clear ad hom that you AND giant are doing (he posted the same shit on his story about .org being full of loser incels). I pray that this gui dude actually does ascend with his future procedures. To be clear, I'm aware that other designing agencies/services are more likely to design worse implants, but he did not "ascend" which is what I think most users with negative criticism would agree with.org in a nutshell
I think the forum expected more from Giant himself. Regardless of what the patient wanted, people expect giant to deliver the best results possible with his supposed aesthetic eye. To be honest I don't think it was good idea to post results at least at this point in the case. Lots of people are going to question RSM now. It's not about appeasing the forum, it's about getting results that are proportionate to the pain, money, and time put into the procedure(s). <-- That's why I think giant is receiving negative feedback.you think bro should've ignored the patient's requests and given him huge implants, going against his wishes, to appease the forum?
You could be right about that!
Maybe he wanted to hype it up due to it being the first public case. Would be better to have said what he wanted - subtler change
Nah it was more like taking a shot at the excessively negative reactions
Just because there are a lot of negative reactions doesnt mean people don't want to be updated about this case. They were just disappointed tbhbut some points make sense. I thought people would appreciate an update but perhaps people don't care about that
Bro it’s just a buzzword to say chad affirming. You guys are overthinking this. This guy started off with like nothing going for him and looks much betterI think the forum expected more from Giant himself. Regardless of what the patient wanted, people expect giant to deliver the best results possible with his supposed aesthetic eye. To be honest I don't think it was good idea to post results at least at this point in the case. Lots of people are going to question RSM now. It's not about appeasing the forum, it's about getting results that are proportionate to the pain, money, and time put into the procedure(s). <-- That's why I think giant is receiving negative feedback.
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Just because there are a lot of negative reactions doesnt mean people don't want to be updated about this case. They were just disappointed tbh
Retard check my profile that's an old ropefuel photo. Muh be low iq retard. This guy is LOW mtn at best. Why are you glazing him? you sound gay
Its over for Gui, cels told its over.Ngl @optimisticzoomer is right as fuck. People only care about the end result. Fuck the PSL ratings: He still does not look attractive. It's all so fucking sketchy. The result looks underwhelming and it sounds like you and giant are trying to cover it up. "He wanted the prettboy soft look", "oh we can't predict how eyelids will change after peri implants", "oh he had a botched eyelid surgery before", "oh it's still in progress". Doesnt fucking matter because he looks mid as fuck atm. I think you two should accept that this case did not reach the expectations and hype yall initially brought. It's a meh result relatively speaking, not "chad-affirming" like rsm advertised it to be.
I'm not saying giant is bad at his job. In fact, I'm willing to believe he is noticeably better than the big companies. No direct disrespect to him. However, people will judge the result based off of pictures and the pictures only because that's what actually matters irl. If you expected niggas to dickride giant you shouldn't have posted. Should have instead posted when all the procedures were done.
Something that is also highly suspicious is that you are discrediting the opinions of others here just because they're "ugly":
Clear ad hom that you AND giant are doing (he posted the same shit on his story about .org being full of loser incels). I pray that this gui dude actually does ascend with his future procedures. To be clear, I'm aware that other designing agencies/services are more likely to design worse implants, but he did not "ascend" which is what I think most users with negative criticism would agree with
It's just that planning has to be spot onGood transformation, but sadly it didn’t ascend him that much. You really need to be a MTN as a baseline for surgery to ascend you.
Would love to see someone with a good base get this and see how it improves them
ascended from invisible to someone who cannot be seen by others jflIt's just that planning has to be spot on
Blackgymmax had a truecel base but with correct surgeries , proper measurements he was able to ascend. It's all about studying facial aesthetics and taking action accordingly
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so the surgeries were good for something afterall? it would be a W in my bookshe got to HTN at most, btw where did you see him get hundred matches? apparently he killed himself after getting all those surgeries
custom plates and guides have their downsides too. Top surgeons like Raffaini prefer the free hand thing because it gives some leeway.custom plates and guides
what are you talking about his base isn't even bad or ugly lmao. People here are pretending he looked like shit when he didn't lolSubhuman to MTN.
Agreed. Giants does really cool things and amazing implant designs and I am curious what he will come up with in the future. This case just shows that some people need a really good bimax before any implant work.Ngl @optimisticzoomer is right as fuck. People only care about the end result. Fuck the PSL ratings: He still does not look attractive. It's all so fucking sketchy. The result looks underwhelming and it sounds like you and giant are trying to cover it up. "He wanted the prettboy soft look", "oh we can't predict how eyelids will change after peri implants", "oh he had a botched eyelid surgery before", "oh it's still in progress". Doesnt fucking matter because he looks mid as fuck atm. I think you two should accept that this case did not reach the expectations and hype yall initially brought. It's a meh result relatively speaking, not "chad-affirming" like rsm advertised it to be.
I'm not saying giant is bad at his job. In fact, I'm willing to believe he is noticeably better than the big companies. No direct disrespect to him. However, people will judge the result based off of pictures and the pictures only because that's what actually matters irl. If you expected niggas to dickride giant you shouldn't have posted. Should have instead posted when all the procedures were done.
Something that is also highly suspicious is that you are discrediting the opinions of others here just because they're "ugly":
Clear ad hom that you AND giant are doing (he posted the same shit on his story about .org being full of loser incels). I pray that this gui dude actually does ascend with his future procedures. To be clear, I'm aware that other designing agencies/services are more likely to design worse implants, but he did not "ascend" which is what I think most users with negative criticism would agree with
Soon buddyGood transformation, but sadly it didn’t ascend him that much. You really need to be a MTN as a baseline for surgery to ascend you.
Would love to see someone with a good base get this and see how it improves them
Downsides like what? Given that the planning is actually good, the only downsides I can think of are increased cost to the patient, exposure to moderate radiation from CT scanning, and wait time for manufacturing.custom plates and guides have their downsides too. Top surgeons like Raffaini prefer the free hand thing because it gives some leeway.
he had bimax alongsideit s good implant work but no amount of implants can replace a good bimax w ccw rotation. it just looks uncanny and unnatural now. get him a bimax and the implants will start looking amazing
so the surgeries were good for something afterall? it would be a W in my books
custom plates and guides have their downsides too. Top surgeons like Raffaini prefer the free hand thing because it gives some leeway.
according to 3 different maxfacs I have talked to it gives them less leeway. none of them using custom plates at that time might have influenced what they said tho.Downsides like what?
He did have Bimax or even trimaxwhat are you talking about his base isn't even bad or ugly lmao. People here are pretending he looked like shit when he didn't lol
Agreed. Giants does really cool things and amazing implant designs and I am curious what he will come up with in the future. This case just shows that some people need a really good bimax before any implant work.
IIRC Giant recommends Pagnoni, short of going to himStill not sure what difference going with giant made
Could've just gone to ramieri for design and surgery and got same result
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I am pretty sure that guy OBO with bimax will look much more dramatic than brazilian guy result.Some people have unrealistic expectations about plastic surgeries. If you start with a weak base, you won’t get supermodel looks even if the procedure is so invasive.
Overall it’s still an improvement and I’m excited about the modified OBO.
then the bimax wasnt goodHe did have Bimax or even trimax
Do you think skipping rsm and going straight to safi was the right thing to do for your bimax? Just curious because I feel like rsm should be providing the best bimax results based off what he advertises on instathen the bimax wasnt good
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For bimax for sure, still hope to get him involved on the implants I want down the line. But idt rsm claims he can do what Raffaini Coceancig etc. do.Do you think skipping rsm and going straight to safi was the right thing to do for your bimax? Just curious because I feel like rsm should be providing the best bimax results based off what he advertises on insta
but the accuracy of the simulations isn't even close to this so fraction of a mm precision isn't necessaryaccuracy of planning to fractions of a mm