but the accuracy of the simulations isn't even close to this so fraction of a mm precision isn't necessary
Are you referring to soft tissue simulations or the actual titanium implants fitting the patient’s anatomy?
 
Are you referring to soft tissue simulations or the actual titanium implants fitting the patient’s anatomy?
I'm talking about the soft tissue simulations. No surgeon knows to a fraction of a mm what will look best, if there's even a difference at that level, so that much precision is unnecessary in most cases.
 
I'm talking about the soft tissue simulations. No surgeon knows to a fraction of a mm what will look best, if there's even a difference at that level, so that much precision is unnecessary in most cases.
Ok, yeah from my perspective I was referring to the accuracy of movements in all planes. Still though, patient specific implants creates unparalleled accuracy versus traditional orthognathic surgery. I agree that the soft tissue simulations are bad estimates and probably only good for visualizing height/width changes.
 
- A 22 year old Brazilian requested a moderate/natural prettyboy change.
Custom supraorbital, infraorbital, and chin implants were done alongside a bimax.
- Jaw angles were scraped from the original plan given his initial goals but will be installed soon along with a more masculine chin implant for a complete lower third ascension.
- He previously had botched eyelid surgeries in Brazil.


The case is still in progress FYI



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Ascended, props to giant and the dude, maybe once I rack up some more and finally go crazy I'll GIT with him and become a chad
 
those few mms of change in the eyes are huge
 
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I don't know what motivates people to disparage these results when they clearly made a big difference.

Maybe they are gaslighting others or are butt-hurt they can't afford surgeries? Or they expect one surgery to take them all the way from LTN to giga-chad and have giga-unrealistic expectations.

Even going from LTN to MTN or MTN to HTN makes a BIG difference in your life. This guy made a much more significant improvement to his life than if he had just rotted. Pre-surgery I don't see this guy getting any action. Post surgery I can see him getting a MTB-HTB GF.
The thing is it depends on the cost to reward, most users won't pursue due to fear, and lack of knowledge. Also the idea of the results being in the grey area is a big risk some aren't willing to take.
Invasive procedures like implants are no good since they're all theoretic and you have to wait for the soft tissues to unswell from inflammation of a foreign body sitting on your normal tissue.
Also most of the big time celebs like matt rife and the kardashians only get filler since it's more accurate. Implants will cause bone resorption.

Reality is you most likely won't look good if you try to get mogger angular bones if they don't look well on your face or body. Most of normal ppl having that typically have a body frame that complements the face. This kid is going to look weird regarldless since he's a twink and his frame is shit. There's a limit of what you can do. and you have to be realistic.

For example this guy can try to look like timothee chalamet but that's it nothing more.
 
The thing is it depends on the cost to reward, most users won't pursue due to fear, and lack of knowledge. Also the idea of the results being in the grey area is a big risk some aren't willing to take.
Invasive procedures like implants are no good since they're all theoretic and you have to wait for the soft tissues to unswell from inflammation of a foreign body sitting on your normal tissue.
Also most of the big time celebs like matt rife and the kardashians only get filler since it's more accurate. Implants will cause bone resorption.

Reality is you most likely won't look good if you try to get mogger angular bones if they don't look well on your face or body. Most of normal ppl having that typically have a body frame that complements the face. This kid is going to look weird regarldless since he's a twink and his frame is shit. There's a limit of what you can do. and you have to be realistic.

For example this guy can try to look like timothee chalamet but that's it nothing more.
I hate the "implants will cause bone reportion" nigga ur losing 1mm of bone
 
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I hate the "implants will cause bone reportion" nigga ur losing 1mm of bone
Are there implants that supposedly bone grows over? Or is Safi bullshitting?
 
Are there implants that supposedly bone grows over? Or is Safi bullshitting?
Are you talking about those bio implants that combine with your bone? It’s not just Safi who offers them, other surgeons do too like Conceancig.
 
Are you talking about those bio implants that combine with your bone? It’s not just Safi who offers them, other surgeons do too like Conceancig.
Titanium implants have bone grow over them.

But realistically you don't want that because most times you will need a revision or implants replaced. You cant do either if bone grew over it
 
Titanium implants have bone grow over them.

But realistically you don't want that because most times you will need a revision or implants replaced. You cant do either if bone grew over it
Why would you need revision? Just don’t go to some slum in Pakistan and get implants for $10.
This is why you choose people like Eppley and Yaremchuk
 
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Why would you need revision? Just don’t go to some slum in Pakistan and get implants for $10.
This is why you choose people like Eppley and Yaremchuk
Even with great doctors, there may be an issue with placement or you don't aesthetically like something about the implants. Designers can not simulate your soft tissue, it's not a 1:1 process - you won't know. Still possible

Nothing do to with Yaremchuk or Eppley (who imo both are horrible). It's just a reality of what may happen with surgery
 
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Did RSM design the bimax himself? Does he offer such services? I thought he only designs implants?
 
Pretty sure he did

Bro has designed an OBO and a Lefort 2... you're out of the loop
does he follow the "anteface" principle of safi/sailer or is he more moderate like pagnoni?
 
It does look uncanny, as the implants just bulge out of his skull.

Tho great ascension
 
Idk depends on what you ask bro

Trying to attain 'anteface' with lefort 1 only will dogmaxx you - He'll probably do Lefort 2 or implants instead
yeah but u can combine them all, so what do u think giant would prefer
 
does he follow the "anteface" principle of safi/sailer or is he more moderate like pagnoni?
I’d say Giant’s moderate like Pagnoni
 
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Ur a oldcel subhuman coping with surgery hahahaahahhahahahahahqhhahahahahahab
absolute dogshit sig, user, with shit opinions all the time
why r u here lol?
 
Very mediocre;

Or Giant chose poorly to use this guy as promotion and has far more impressive cases of guys who don't want to show their faces.

Anyway its beyond question as u can't reach him.
 
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Not really, remember that Jewish user who had the OBO, LL etc. he spent 700k to go from low LTN to high LTN/low MTN, his only real improvement was going from 5’8.5” to 6’1.5” but still can’t walk without pain and a limp 4 years later as he did 2 LLs jfl. Obviously his arms would look so fucked now and likely can’t even put his hands in his pockets now, so really, at best, if you have a bad base, you can go from a 2/10 to a 4/10 with unlimited money, but as a 6-7/10, you can get to 9/10 with unlimited money as it’s easier to create halos than eliminate failos.
Holy moly, that’s quite literally insane. I can’t imagine going through all that just to look below average/average anyway. At some point you kinda just have to accept that this part of life is not for you, even if you have unlimited money. For example in my case, I can pretty much get any surgery on earth due to my financial situation, however, the only thing that would really ascend me and shorten my midface would be a modified Lefort 3, and I’m not getting that, it’s way too risky.
 
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Not really, remember that Jewish user who had the OBO, LL etc. he spent 700k to go from low LTN to high LTN/low MTN, his only real improvement was going from 5’8.5” to 6’1.5” but still can’t walk without pain and a limp 4 years later as he did 2 LLs jfl. Obviously his arms would look so fucked now and likely can’t even put his hands in his pockets now, so really, at best, if you have a bad base, you can go from a 2/10 to a 4/10 with unlimited money, but as a 6-7/10, you can get to 9/10 with unlimited money as it’s easier to create halos than eliminate failos.
You gotta just accept your fate at some point. Some people just can never be saved. Not caring is the final and only way to escape for some people. Surgery will always make you dissapointed
 
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why has this been deleted
 

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