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I don't give a fuck. Why would I care what a October 2023cel has to say? Your opinion is a popcorn kernel to me - utterly & boringly pointless.My grandma literally knows this, she doesnt use internet obviously. This information is decades old
Ok can I copy paste a bunch of stuff and make a botb thread then? Also you made enchanted_elixir create that rule after my thread lil nigga acting like it's always been aroundAI written stuff isn't allowed in BOTB. Rules are the rules.
bigot!I don't give a fuck. Why would I care what a October 2023cel has to say? Your opinion is a popcorn kernel to me - utterly & boringly pointless.
I didn't tell him to do that. I really don't care about you like that. I just don't like lazy people. This is different because this thread comes from a time where it would be considered BOTB tier, so it still is here. I don't see the point of removing it considering only normalfaggots have a problem with it.Ok can I copy paste a bunch of stuff and make a botb thread then? Also you made enchanted_elixir create that rule after my thread lil nigga acting like it's always been around
wymI don't see the point of removing it considering only normalfaggots have a problem with it.
I mean what I mean, I don't really care about the opinions of randoms when it comes to things I don't have control over. Nobody's had an opinion about it for the past 3 years, I don't get why random normies now should change that. I am a Platonist, and as such am quite critical of the democracy's broad masses.
Opinion rejected + Plato touched little boys lolI am a Platonist, and as such am quite critical of the democracy's broad masses.
No he didn't lol. Fun fact: the word "platonic love" stems from the fact that Plato was one of the few philosophers who didn't fuck their studentsOpinion rejected + Plato touched little boys lol
"we must not forget that sexual pleasure is held to have been granted by nature to male and female when conjoined for the work of procreation; the crime of male with male, or female with female, is an outrage on nature and a capital surrender to lust of pleasure."
cap, Plato and socrates was def out there enjoying some boy butt Aristotle is better anywaysNo he didn't lol. Fun fact: the word "platonic love" stems from the fact that Plato was one of the few philosophers who didn't fuck their students
Also, here's a passage by Plato calling homosexuality a disease:
cap, Plato and socrates was def out there enjoying some boy butt Aristotle is better anyways
But I think he viewed sex with little boys differently, like a lot of aristocratic greeks of his timeView attachment 2528952
That's one of many of his anti-homo quotes. Aristotle also condemns homosexuality, so that's cool.
No,But I think he viewed sex with little boys differently, like a lot of aristocratic greeks of his time
He hated it altogether.“Since homosexual intercourse is useless, it cannot be good or beautiful. Whatever is neither good nor beautiful should be avoided.”
Will have to dive deeper into it but I remain unconvinced since he never mentions pedophilia specificallyNo,
He hated it altogether.
I doubt it. The Athenian stranger in Plato's Laws (where I took the quotes from) blames pederasty for promoting civil strife and driving many to their wits' end, and recommends the prohibition of sexual intercourse with youths, laying out a path whereby this may be accomplished. Plato agrees.Will have to dive deeper into it but I remain unconvinced since he never mentions pedophilia specifically
He writes some pretty sus shit in the symposium regarding pederasty, here's a good link that includes verses related to that topic from the work itself: https://www.greek-love.com/general-non-fiction-pederasty/the-symposium-by-platoI doubt it. The Athenian stranger in Plato's Laws (where I took the quotes from) blames pederasty for promoting civil strife and driving many to their wits' end, and recommends the prohibition of sexual intercourse with youths, laying out a path whereby this may be accomplished. Plato agrees.
Seems like aristotle also spoke in favor of pederasty as a form of population control, brutal.I doubt it. The Athenian stranger in Plato's Laws (where I took the quotes from) blames pederasty for promoting civil strife and driving many to their wits' end, and recommends the prohibition of sexual intercourse with youths, laying out a path whereby this may be accomplished. Plato agrees.
Not really that incriminating, and even if it was, Laws is Plato's final work, so it's safe to assume his anti-sodomite opinions were final.He writes some pretty sus shit in the symposium regarding pederasty, here's a good link that includes verses related to that topic from the work itself: https://www.greek-love.com/general-non-fiction-pederasty/the-symposium-by-plato
very low iq to none modI don't give a fuck. Why would I care what a October 2023cel has to say? Your opinion is a popcorn kernel to me - utterly & boringly pointless.
Doesn’t mdma make it impossible to get a erection tho?It ruins your gains. Which is why zyzz used mdma at parties
Idk ive never used itDoesn’t mdma make it impossible to get a erection tho?
that explains why the beaner side of my family are all fat with pot bellies and disproportionately skinny legs.All the fuckers who complain about "muh soy" (which has phytoestrogens in low quantities, which don't really affect your T/E) never talk about alcohol like beer having 50 times the amount of phytoestrogen, which is enough to cause actual hormonal effects.
dnr chad drinks 3x/week and slayslower testosterone and hormone studies:
Alcohol and Testosterone | Does Alcohol Lower Testosterone? | Learn More
How does drinking alcohol affect testosterone levels in the body? Learn more about the link between alcohol consumption and testosterone.www.therecoveryvillage.comAlcohol And Its Effects On Testosterone | Supplement Critique
Find out exactly how alcohol affects testosterone levels, and what, if anything, you can do about it.www.supplementcritique.comHow Alcohol Effects on Testosterone Levels
How does alcohol affect testosterone levels? Does consuming alcohol have an effect on testosterone levels and testosterone production?www.hgha.comAlcohol And Its Effects On Testosterone | Healthy Think Tank
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Some quotes from the testosterone studies:
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- Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide (NAD) is a coenzyme that has great power over the production of testosterone within the testes. When too much alcohol is consumed, this will lower the amount of NAD in the body and therefore reduce the production of testosterone.
- Oxidative damage of leydig cells in the testicles can be caused by overconsumption of alcohol. They can destroy testosterone in the scrotum and the testosterone which is already in circulation throughout the body.
- The endorphins called Beta-Opioid Endorphins have an unhelpful effect on testosterone production. When too much alcohol intake stimulates the brain to release the endorphins, they damage testosterone.
- When a man assumes too much alcohol, this can lower testosterone levels and increase estrogen levels. Alcohol has the power to increase the aromatase enzyme which has the main responsibility of converting testosterone into estrogen. This can lead to many problems, including gynecomastia (enlargement of the breasts in men) and other issues.
" The Ethanol in alcoholic drinks causes oxidative damage to the Leydig Cells that produce testosterone in your testicles.
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- Damaged Leydig Cells will not function at their highest levels.
Antioxidants may help protect against this oxidative damage, but they will never be able to inhibit it completely.- Frequent alcohol consumption increases the activity of the Aromatase enzyme, causing an increase in the conversion of testosterone to estrogen. This decreases testosterone dramatically in two ways.
First, the conversion itself of testosterone to estrogen lessens the amount of testosterone present.
Second, the increased presence of estrogen signals the testosterone producing mechanism within the body to halt production.
In other words, abundant estrogen is a marker for the body, indicating that it has enough testosterone and doesn’t need to produce more.- Alcohol, as part of its relaxing and depressive effect, causes the brain to release beta-opioid endorphins.
This in turn lowers the production and release of testosterone.- The metabolism of Ethanol decreases the amount of NAD+ (Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide) within both the liver and the testes.
Since NAD+ is necessary for healthy testosterone production, said production is reduced.
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We touched on this earlier when we discussed the several ways alcohol can lead to reduced testosterone levels.
Beer in particular, because of the particularly potent phytoestrogens in hops, does increase the presence of estrogen in the body.
The serious effect is demonstrated in a study of female ratswho could not produce estrogen on their own because their ovaries had been removed.
Due to consumption of alcohol, their bodies exhibited estrogen-like effects, even when that consumption was moderate.
Add the aromatase effect that increases the conversion of testosterone to estrogen,and yes indeed, alcohol has a profound effect on estrogen levels.
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Looksmin/healthmin studies:
The 6 Main Negative Effects of Alcohol On The Body
In this article we're looking close at the negative impacts that alcohol can have on your body. Please drink responsibly!www.astralnutrition.comEffects Of Alcohol On The Body: Short and Long Term Reactions
Find out what does alcohol do to your body, what are its short-term and long-term side effects, and how to overcome the effects of alcoholism.addictionresource.comNegative Effects Of Alcohol Abuse – 10 Worst Consequences
Effects of alcohol abuse is a new article that reveals some negative effects that alcohol overuse brings to human health.vkool.comEffects of Alcohol on the Body
What happens to your body after you take your first sip of alcohol? Learn the effects of drinking on your body and mental well-being.www.healthline.comThis Is How Alcohol Affects Your Body
The effects of alcohol on the brain, such as impaired judgment and memory loss, can be long-lasting. Learn how alcohol affects the brain.www.health.comNegative Effects of Alcohol Abuse - Short Term and Long Term Effects
Short term negative effects of alcohol include impaired senses and reflexes while long term effects are abuse, DNA mutations, liver cirrhosis and poor immune system.www.your-cancer-prevention-guide.comThe Negative Effects of Alcohol - 12 Keys
Roughly 18 million Americans have an alcohol problem. Learn more about the short-term effects and the long-term effects of alcohol.www.12keysrehab.comWhat Are the Long-Term Effects of Alcohol Use?
Call 888.341.5785 today to speak to our alcohol rehab experts if you're worried about the long-term effects of alcohol on the brain.vertavahealth.comALCOHOL'S DAMAGING EFFECTS ON THE BRAIN
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Grandpa face rating?water, even my grandpa knows it..
normie oldcelGrandpa face rating?
Soy significantly suppresses Androgen Receptor expression, which obviously would inhibit the effects of androgens.Alcohol inhibits protein synthesis too
Also the most estrogenic alcohol is actually beer funnily enough due to the fact it contains hops
depends how you use drugs/alcohol i guess.The irony is if one has this lowering T stuff, it gets neutered out by doing extraordinary T increasing things. @pneumocystosis @MoggerGaston @insertanybrit @insertanychad especially the slay/brag/night-out/rave threads my gods, jfl, blatant obvious short-sighted cope missing the point... Really goes to show how much the OP truly goes outside lmao.
Water, except it's vodkadepends how you use drugs/alcohol i guess.
if you use it to rot in room, its probably lifemin
if you use it to get good social interaction, enjoy parties, etc, probably lifemax
nobody drinks just half a glass of red wine, its not even enough to get you even the slightest bit drunkbeing tipsy/drunk feels so damn good, man
half a glass of red wine a week won’t hurt you btw
ik but if you just want the health benefits and want to drink a little socially, then half a glass or red wine isn’t bad for your healthnobody drinks just half a glass of red wine, its not even enough to get you even the slightest bit drunk
same with smoking.I've heard lil bit of alcohol can actully boost test