Bimax consult

[Lightskinindian]

Tomorrow I will have a consult with a local maxfac surgeon who apparently does a lot of implants including infra orbital rims.
I'm obviously recessed and need Bimax, but should I ask for certain things like CCW? My chin is recessed but it is long, though I have a compact midface.
So CCW wont be good for me? If I get genio as well will it make my chin look even longer? I have a normal malocclusion

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Enjoy getting bimax with normal occlusion and wasting money fucker

 

[Lightskinindian]

Enjoy getting bimax with normal occlusion and wasting money fucker

Lol.. ever heard about both jaws being recessed, so that the teeth end up fitting well?

 

[Blond3cel]

How much forward movement do you even want ?

You prop gonna end Dogmaxxed

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Enjoy getting bimax with normal occlusion and wasting money fucker

Both of his jaws are recessed.

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Both of his jaws are recessed.

How do you know?

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Lol.. ever heard about both jaws being recessed, so that the teeth end up fitting well?

Hope I get cancer

 

[HarrierDuBois]

How do you know?

I can tell by the jaw his entire lower third is sloping back instead of meeting with his browridge.

 

[Lightskinindian]

I can tell by the jaw his entire lower third is sloping back instead of meeting with his browridge.

Yup there are certain measurements that can indicate recessed jaws, one of them how far the chin is from the brow bone.

How much forward movement do you even want ?

You prop gonna end Dogmaxxed

No idea how much i need, but not much. I really also want to do to increase air space. I will get bimax in combination with orb impants

 

[Deleted member 18582]

are the infra implants custom made

 

[Lightskinindian]

are the infra implants custom made

Ye they do all custom stuff, and 3D imaging, and custom cut guides.. the surgeon claims to be an expert at implants.
Tomorrow will be my 1 consult to ask questions. So if u have any let me know. Ofc the biggest one will be the price

 

[AscensionCel]

You can get slight CCW but most importantly you need linear advancement (MMA) of both jaws

I would aim for something like 5mm upper 8mm lower. Be careful to not get dogmaxxed

 

[Deleted member 19957]

I'm getting mine in exactly 3 months, i'll tell him MAXIMUM MOVEMENT, I WANNA BE A NEW PHENO LIKE THIS GUY

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Im

Ye they do all custom stuff, and 3D imaging, and custom cut guides.. the surgeon claims to be an expert at implants.
Tomorrow will be my 1 consult to ask questions. So if u have any let me know. Ofc the biggest one will be the price

curios on price and Who he is

 

[AspieBro]

You can get slight CCW but most importantly you need linear advancement (MMA) of both jaws

I would aim for something like 5mm upper 8mm lower. Be careful to not get dogmaxxed

surely surgeons are going to be the ones who will prevent the patient from getting dogmaxxed?

 

[Deleted member 26824]

waste of money bout to happen

 

[Lightskinindian]

You can get slight CCW but most importantly you need linear advancement (MMA) of both jaws

I would aim for something like 5mm upper 8mm lower. Be careful to not get dogmaxxed

so it would be a trimax than if i get more advancement of lower.

waste of money bout to happen

Well, explain...

surely surgeons are going to be the ones who will prevent the patient from getting dogmaxxed?

They aren't, so that's why I'm consulting here too

 

[AspieBro]

so it would be a trimax than if i get more advancement of lower.

Well, explain...

They aren't, so that's why I'm consulting here too

what kind of dogshit surgeon can't predict a suboptimal result that an incel community can

 

[Deleted member 26824]

so it would be a trimax than if i get more advancement of lower.

Well, explain...

They aren't, so that's why I'm consulting here too

send face not your scan

 

[Deleted member 26824]

what kind of dogshit surgeon can't predict a suboptimal result that an incel community can

they do it anyways for some reason

 

[AspieBro]

they do it anyways for some reason

guess it's Raffaini/Ramieri/Pagnoni or over

 

[Lightskinindian]

send face not your scan

its the same as the scan... but I also did a morph what i expect..
To be honest the orbs are gonna make the biggest impact..

 

[Blond3cel]

surely surgeons are going to be the ones who will prevent the patient from getting dogmaxxed?

No Alfaro is specialist for that

 

[AspieBro]

No Alfaro is specialist for that
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infras could ascend tbh

 

[AscensionCel]

so it would be a trimax than if i get more advancement of lower.

Yeah your occlusal angle is around 10 degrees and CCW is very good for airway so why not. You can get slight genio too but don't go for crazy movement

waste of money bout to happen

It won't be huge ascension but it will be nice improvement and his airway will go from trash to actually decent

 

[Deleted member 18582]

No Alfaro is specialist for that
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all chimp and dog cases are just the result of bimaxes that are not paired with upper midface implants

it should be de rigueur in 2023 to pair all bimaxes with infrazygos. ALL

 

[Lightskinindian]

Yeah your occlusal angle is around 10 degrees and CCW is very good for airway so why not. You can get slight genio too but don't go for crazy movement


It won't be huge ascension but it will be nice improvement and his airway will go from trash to actually decent

Ye I probably actually have sleep apnea. Will have that research first. Sleeping with mouthtape often causes me to choke at night

 

[Blond3cel]

all chimp and dog cases are just the result of bimaxes that are not paired with upper midface implants

it should be de rigueur in 2023 to pair all bimaxes with infrazygos. ALL

Just dont go for insane movements but if your upper maxilla is also giga recessed you gonna need it anyways tho.

Anteface wont make anyone GL.

 

[Deleted member 26824]

its the same as the scan... but I also did a morph what i expect..
To be honest the orbs are gonna make the biggest impact..

regular lefort 1 doesnt do what your morph did

i see potential too, bimax will improve you

 

[ItsOver999]

Lol.. ever heard about both jaws being recessed,

I dont understand how people on a looksmax forum dont know this..

Proof that people are just here to be autistic and not actually learn about becoming better looking.

 

[Lightskinindian]

regular lefort 1 doesnt do what your morph did

i see potential too, bimax will improve you

Ye might as well get trimax, could use a bit of chin projection too.. it really depends again what kind offer he will give me including implants

 

[Deleted member 26824]

Ye might as well get trimax, could use a bit of chin projection too.. it really depends again what kind offer he will give me including implants

your morph moved your whole face. thats like lefort3 typa change you‘re expecting

 

[AspieBro]

your morph moved your whole face. thats like lefort3 typa change you‘re expecting

well he is also getting midface implants so it's basically a lf3

 

[Deleted member 26824]

well he is also getting midface implants so it's basically a lf3

oh

 

[Lightskinindian]

your morph moved your whole face. thats like lefort3 typa change you‘re expecting

Well its a bit extreme, but isnt that what ifra-malar impants + trimax is basically doing?

 

[Deleted member 26824]

Well its a bit extreme, but isnt that what ifra-malar impants + trimax is basically doing?

i dont think your nose will change or project that much

 

[Lightskinindian]

i dont think your nose will change or project that much

Ye i fked up a bit using the liquify tool, actually dont want my nose to change really

 

[Lightskinindian]

Both of his jaws are recessed.

Yeah your occlusal angle is around 10 degrees and CCW is very good for airway so why not. You can get slight genio too but don't go for crazy movement


It won't be huge ascension but it will be nice improvement and his airway will go from trash to actually decent

I did an online steiner analysis, brutally told me that I'm recessed af

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I did an online steiner analysis, brutally told me that I'm recessed af

Do the convexity angle @SurgeryEnjoyer.

 

[Lightskinindian]

Do the convexity angle @SurgeryEnjoyer.

the website doesnt do but its about 190 degrees. How bad is that?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

the website doesnt do but its about 190 degrees. How bad is that?

It's not 190 degrees that's more or less impossible even fucked upp faces only have 130-150 with 141 being ideal.

 

[Lightskinindian]

It's not 190 degrees that's more or less impossible even fucked upp faces only have 130-150 with 141 being ideal.

idk how to calculate that.
Is is like this:

then its 145 degrees, but idk why this is a good measurement taking the nose into account

 

[HarrierDuBois]

idk how to calculate that.
Is is like this:

then its 145 degrees, but idk why this is a good measurement taking the nose into account

Total facial convexity angle

A useful way to evaluate side profile. It is the angle created by the relationship between the glabella, nose, and chin. Ideal angle in males is 141 degrees. Examples: This is a big determinant in how attractive one is, especially with regard to protruding features. When this angle is ideal...

looksmax.org

 

[Lightskinindian]

idk how to calculate that.
Is is like this:

then its 145 degrees, but idk why this is a good measurement taking the nose into account

@HarrierDuBois so what I have now is ideal? So trimax will make the measurement lower and potentially bring me potentially out of the ideal zone ur saying even though I'm recessed?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

@HarrierDuBois so what I have now is ideal? So trimax will make the measurement lower and potentially bring me potentially out of the ideal zone ur saying even though I'm recessed?

141 is ideal, 145 is NOT ideal, @thecel has 147 and we've all seen his side.

 

[Lightskinindian]

141 is ideal, 145 is NOT ideal, @thecel has 147 and we've all seen his side.

Ye but what is the ideal range.. prob none has that 141 exactly.. i saw like 5 degree deviation

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Ye but what is the ideal range.. prob none has that 141 exactly.. i saw like 5 degree deviation

Every good male face has 141 with decimal deviations NEVER breaking into the 140 or 142 range.

 

[Deleted member 19957]

its the same as the scan... but I also did a morph what i expect..
To be honest the orbs are gonna make the biggest impact..

You're dreaming with that morph

I did an online steiner analysis, brutally told me that I'm recessed af

How did you do that? Could you please do mine

 

[Lightskinindian]

Every good male face has 141 with decimal deviations NEVER breaking into the 140 or 142 range.

What will improve this than? Bringing the lower jaw forward will make the angel worse?

You're dreaming with that morph


How did you do that? Could you please do mine

Depends on the implants I guess, should come close with custom infra-malar implants

I used this website: https://app.cephio.com/en/analysis/

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Ok, so bringing the lower jaw forward will make it better than. Do I need to tell this to the surgeon lmao?

@SurgeryEnjoyer asked his surgeon to adjust the morphs slightly then measure it himself until he got a desirable number.