Bimax yesterday

[DrDrKater]

your facial convexity is not at 165 degrees
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yes, it's another measurement. The bimax did a great job on fixxing asymmetry, short face syndrome and it also made me far less recessed but my face is still too convex, i'll maybe need an implant for my chin

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

yes, it's another measurement. The bimax did a great job on fixxing asymmetry, short face syndrome and it also made me far less recessed but my face is still too convex, i'll maybe need an implant for my chin

Yeah, it's definetly an ascension despite the convexity. Just recover and reasses the results, and then you can worry about fixing it (chin implant, genio revision). Your good brah

 

[DrDrKater]

Yeah, it's definetly an ascension despite the convexity. Just recover and reasses the results, and then you can worry about fixing it (chin implant, genio revision). Your good brah

i don't know if i should get fillers or a chin implant tho

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

i don't know if i should get fillers or a chin implant tho

Hard to say, ask @vermicel

 

[abdullah23k]

I had Bimaxsurgery + genioplasty yesterday performed by Dr Dr Kater, Frankfurt am Main, Germany. I'm 17 and it went well, no nerves are botched and he told me the Plan was executed perfectly fine. In the pictures you can see 24h before and 24h after the surgery. He did a great job with my maxilla and mandible but the genioplasty is slightly underadvanced. My nose had a very big glowup but it'll all look different in 5 months i'm very bloated rn. What do yall think?

Done what most niggas here larp doing

 

[DrDrKater]

Done what most niggas here larp doing

what do you think abt the results

 

[abdullah23k]

what do you think abt the results

Good

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

your facial convexity is not at 165 degrees
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Thats his nasion brocel

 

[MOLEPULE]

HOW MUCH COST AND CAN YOU CUSTOMIZE IT

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

I think a persisting issue is the lack of facial convexity.
Based on the pics you have provided, your convexity before surgery was only ~150° ; after surgery, it has increased to ~157°. However, that is still outside the ideal range (165-170°) and may explain why some users think you've been under-advanced.
Note that these side profile pictures may not be ideal for an assessment, because you seem to be turning your head a bit too much away from the camera.

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Your face with proper convexity (and a small rhino, while we're at it) :

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Of course, easier said than done. My morph doesn't take into account your actual orthodontic/orthognathic needs and surgical limitations.

Wait until swelling has really subsided to reassess your results and what may be further improved or not.

From LTN to CL

 

[ascendtocl122]

Nice bro update when swelling goes down.

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

Thats his nasion brocel

yes

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

yes

You measure convexity with glabella brocel

 

[vermicel]

You measure convexity with glabella brocel

Both are valid ways to measure facial convexity. And their respective ideal ranges are quite similar (roughly between 165° and 175°).

 

[salvation]

Both are valid ways to measure facial convexity. And their respective ideal ranges are quite similar (roughly between 165° and 175°).

If you have a prominent brow ridge the glabella method is better imo

 

[SenpaiEstrogen]

I had Bimaxsurgery + genioplasty yesterday performed by Dr Dr Kater, Frankfurt am Main, Germany. I'm 17 and it went well, no nerves are botched and he told me the Plan was executed perfectly fine. In the pictures you can see 24h before and 24h after the surgery. He did a great job with my maxilla and mandible but the genioplasty is slightly underadvanced. My nose had a very big glowup but it'll all look different in 5 months i'm very bloated rn. What do yall think?

Mirin, it was covered by insurance/healthcare?

 

[Weed]

Huge

 

[bimaxmaxxer]

lmao, I remember when you asked me about your surgeon. Seems like I was completly wrong about him, this is a big ascencion and life fuel

 

[DrDrKater]

Mirin, it was covered by insurance/healthcare?

yes, i only payed 6k for genio

 

[chadtushar]

I had Bimaxsurgery + genioplasty yesterday performed by Dr Dr Kater, Frankfurt am Main, Germany. I'm 17 and it went well, no nerves are botched and he told me the Plan was executed perfectly fine. In the pictures you can see 24h before and 24h after the surgery. He did a great job with my maxilla and mandible but the genioplasty is slightly underadvanced. My nose had a very big glowup but it'll all look different in 5 months i'm very bloated rn. What do yall think?

Excited to see your recovery and results

 

[vanetto]

I had Bimaxsurgery + genioplasty yesterday performed by Dr Dr Kater, Frankfurt am Main, Germany. I'm 17 and it went well, no nerves are botched and he told me the Plan was executed perfectly fine. In the pictures you can see 24h before and 24h after the surgery. He did a great job with my maxilla and mandible but the genioplasty is slightly underadvanced. My nose had a very big glowup but it'll all look different in 5 months i'm very bloated rn. What do yall think?

Mirin nigga

 

[rapingfoids666]

Mirin

 

[zemult]

There's no way this guy improved a point with that lmao
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And front potentially no improvement but a wider nose.



Yeah it looks recessed tbh I told you before to not go to a german surgeon but you didn't listen of course
Dr Dr Kater my ass.

Your foto after surgery looks almost like the before foto of raffainis most recent result on insta


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Obviously Raffaini is the goat, but it's a big stretch to suggest that before photo looks like OP's after lol.

 

[Orven358]

Looks nice

 

[combatingNorwooding]

I had Bimaxsurgery + genioplasty yesterday performed by Dr Dr Kater, Frankfurt am Main, Germany. I'm 17 and it went well, no nerves are botched and he told me the Plan was executed perfectly fine. In the pictures you can see 24h before and 24h after the surgery. He did a great job with my maxilla and mandible but the genioplasty is slightly underadvanced. My nose had a very big glowup but it'll all look different in 5 months i'm very bloated rn. What do yall think?

Nice

But you got bimax before fixing your skin? That’s weird

 

[///FORTY6IX]

So you'd say this is no ascend

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You went from boneless to downgrown tbh, you still need MAJOR CCW.

too bad you will probably DNR any advice on that and unless you remove the metal plates will most likely be unable to reap results.

Still an ascension just surgeon skill issue.

 

[///FORTY6IX]

okay, i see your point. It's not Dr Katers fault, that my mandible is still recessed, as i said: my bite was perfect before due to carmouflage braces, my mandible was more recessed than my maxilla tho -> that means, that you can only advance them the same or i'd have an underbite. My maxilla is perfect at 82 degrees, my mandible is still 2 degress retrognathic. My chin is ideal too. I understand, that CCW would have given me a bit more forward growth, but as i said im already had short face syndrome that's why Dr kater said he'd rather do a very minimal CW to fix my Short face syndrome. Realistically how much do you think my looks improved? I understand that you wouldn't say it was a lifechanging ascend but i'd definitely say that i went from around top 40% of 17 y/o to around Top 25% once the bloat is gone. Do you think that's ridicolous?

Wait? You didn’t decompensate the bite pre surgery? Holy moly 17 year old IQ mirin

I feel like you rushed into this shit and yeah you def got a subpar result.

Surgeon coulda had you moving like one of these:

 

[DrDrKater]

Wait? You didn’t decompensate the bite pre surgery? Holy moly 17 year old IQ mirin

I feel like you rushed into this shit and yeah you def got a subpar result.

Surgeon coulda had you moving like one of these:
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i'll get the plates out in 4 months. i had braces for 3 years but they carmouflaged my bite.i didn't want to be insecure abt my recession and get 3 teeth pulled and wait another 2 years with braces. I think it's an okay result, i'm not recessed anymore and my short face syndrome is fixxed but i wouldn't consider it "downgrown"

 

[g-rex]

yes, i only payed 6k for genio

Hab gesehen, dass du vorher meintest, dass du die OP selbst zahlen musst, wie hast du dann doch die Übernahme bei der Krankenkasse bewilligt bekommen?
Und weißt du, welche Röntgenaufnahmen bei dir dafür gemacht wurden?

Frage, weil ich bei einem Chirurg in der Nähe war, hat gut gewirkt, weil er auch reine Ästhetikeingriffe anbietet, aber er hat nur DVT und OPG gemacht und meinte danach trotz CMD, Platzmangel der Zunge und Atemwegsverengung die Krankenkasse nicht zahlt und ich es selbst übernehmen müsste, weil ich knapp unter den 6mm für KIG 4 bin.
Bin aufgrund des Ablaufs bisschen skeptisch und hab einen Termin zur Zweitmeinung in Heidelberg ausgemacht, weil die ja im Forum so gelobt wird.
Kann dann auch gern bisschen was vom Ablauf dort sharen.

 

[shedontluv-U]

I had Bimaxsurgery + genioplasty yesterday performed by Dr Dr Kater, Frankfurt am Main, Germany. I'm 17 and it went well, no nerves are botched and he told me the Plan was executed perfectly fine. In the pictures you can see 24h before and 24h after the surgery. He did a great job with my maxilla and mandible but the genioplasty is slightly underadvanced. My nose had a very big glowup but it'll all look different in 5 months i'm very bloated rn. What do yall think?

Wow I'm happy for you brotha

 

[LEFORT17]

Hab gesehen, dass du vorher meintest, dass du die OP selbst zahlen musst, wie hast du dann doch die Übernahme bei der Krankenkasse bewilligt bekommen?
Und weißt du, welche Röntgenaufnahmen bei dir dafür gemacht wurden?

Frage, weil ich bei einem Chirurg in der Nähe war, hat gut gewirkt, weil er auch reine Ästhetikeingriffe anbietet, aber er hat nur DVT und OPG gemacht und meinte danach trotz CMD, Platzmangel der Zunge und Atemwegsverengung die Krankenkasse nicht zahlt und ich es selbst übernehmen müsste, weil ich knapp unter den 6mm für KIG 4 bin.
Bin aufgrund des Ablaufs bisschen skeptisch und hab einen Termin zur Zweitmeinung in Heidelberg ausgemacht, weil die ja im Forum so gelobt wird.
Kann dann auch gern bisschen was vom Ablauf dort sharen.

6mm für KIG?

 

[DrDrKater]

6mm für KIG?

 

[whatsamaxilla]

I had Bimaxsurgery + genioplasty yesterday performed by Dr Dr Kater, Frankfurt am Main, Germany. I'm 17 and it went well, no nerves are botched and he told me the Plan was executed perfectly fine. In the pictures you can see 24h before and 24h after the surgery. He did a great job with my maxilla and mandible but the genioplasty is slightly underadvanced. My nose had a very big glowup but it'll all look different in 5 months i'm very bloated rn. What do yall think?

Mirin

 

[g-rex]

6mm für KIG?

*6mm Overjet.
Das ist laut KIG Richtlinien der Cutoff für D4, ab dem bei Überbiss die Krankenkasse die OP übernimmt.
Gibt auch noch ein paar andere Kategorien, Tiefbiss, offener Biss, etc.