currently in Istanbul awaiting my bimax on Friday

[longjohnmong]

Having trimax on Friday. Cost: €7k. I will post the surgeon's name after the surgery. Here is my surgical plan:

8 degrees CCW rotation via posterior downgraft, 7.6mm maxilla advancement, 12mm mandible advancement (probably ~18mm after genio). I have a silicone chin implant that is throwing off the projected soft tissue result. I'm also getting genio, but I think he's just going to improvise that, maybe because of the chin implant issue.

 

[Reformed]

Mirin, u might need ramus implants after, looking quite short

 

[SA7]

damn

 

[longjohnmong]

Mirin, u might need ramus implants after, looking quite short

He suggested having custom jaw implants during this surgery, and has a result where he lowered ramus that looks pretty good, but I'm gonna hold off until later. My plan is to come back to Istanbul for rhino revision, so maybe during that trip.

 

[Lightskinindian]

Well good luck, following. Thats a cheap price, I hope all goes well.

 

[Deleted member 20064]

Having trimax on Friday. Cost: €7k. I will post the surgeon's name after the surgery. Here is my surgical plan:

View attachment 2415482

8 degrees CCW rotation via posterior downgraft, 7.6mm maxilla advancement, 12mm mandible advancement (probably ~18mm after genio). I have a silicone chin implant that is throwing off the projected soft tissue result. I'm also getting genio, but I think he's just going to improvise that, maybe because of the chin implant issue.

7k??????????!??????????
Fuck that’s cheap.

 

[Sens]

Rest in peace, bro

 

[longjohnmong]

7k??????????!??????????
Fuck that’s cheap.

I think it's actually fairly expensive for Turkey. There are Turkcels on this facebook group complaining about €2k bimax. Even muh Ramieri was only like €12k or less a couple years ago.

 

[longjohnmong]

Well good luck, following. Thats a cheap price, I hope all goes well.

Thanks

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Good Luck
Whats the occlusal plane before-after?

 

[longjohnmong]

Good Luck
Whats the occlusal plane before-after?

Thank you.

-14.90 to -6.35

 

[Acne Victim]

Do you plan on getting implants after?

 

[longjohnmong]

Do you plan on getting implants after?

Yeah. I'm thinking I will need infrazygos at the very least, possibly jaw, paranasal, and supras as well. Although on some level I'm still hoping that I will be satisfied with just the trimax.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

7k, yet users here insist on going to big names as though most surgeons don't have the skills

 

[longjohnmong]

7k, yet users here insist on going to big names as though most surgeons don't have the skills

Even if only 10% of surgeons had the skills, it would still be considerably more than the amount of names that get talked about here.

 

[coke]

7k, yet users here insist on going to big names as though most surgeons don't have the skills

I think it's definitely a worry. It's our literal face, you're also being put to sleep and in the hands of a surgeon, so it's a worrying concept.

I personally have spoke to few surgeons over the years of trying to set up some sort of surgical procedure to fix my jaw issue. I've been told by some simply Jaw Implants, others Bimax. I'm worried more about the free 10 year NHS waiting list UK Surgeons than I would be a £7k Turkish surgeon, but still, it's worrying when it's cheap. If it were Bimax, I'd probably expect to pay around $18k.

 

[coke]

Even if only 10% of surgeons had the skills, it would still be considerably more than the amount of names that get talked about here.

I've actually been speaking with a Bimax surgeon from the United Kingdom who is slightly blackpilled and also under the radar. The guy barely comes up on google searches but he moved here after training in Sao Paulo Brazil and doing 2 years in Italy, the issue is he doesn't do private, he will work on you if he gets Doctor approval through the NHS and the few people I've found that were lucky enough to get him are in disbelief at how good his results were, so I'm keeping my eye on him, he's one of the only UK Surgeons I've found that will admit to Jaw Implants/Facial Implants being a beneficial combination to Bimax.

 

[VladimirtheGreat]

7k for trimax????????????
Just genio with Eppley or some top surgeon is over 10K

You better hope not to end up like that dude who did trimax with sunil richardson for 25k

 

[Deleted member 30884]

Having trimax on Friday. Cost: €7k. I will post the surgeon's name after the surgery. Here is my surgical plan:

View attachment 2415482

8 degrees CCW rotation via posterior downgraft, 7.6mm maxilla advancement, 12mm mandible advancement (probably ~18mm after genio). I have a silicone chin implant that is throwing off the projected soft tissue result. I'm also getting genio, but I think he's just going to improvise that, maybe because of the chin implant issue.

Imagine needing this.

 

[longjohnmong]

it's worrying when it's cheap

It's only cheap in a global context, but a surgeon can't charge global prices if they aren't globally recognized, unless they feel like jacking the prices up for foreign patients. Not doing that is a good sign, not a bad one, imo.

It's not like this is a bargain surgeon. It's just the going rate for surgery in Turkey.

Once I'm sure my results are good, I will make a thread to gloat about how much money I saved, shit on Ramieri, and make fun of user's IQ who paid 20,000+ plus. I already have a few ideas like "what should I do with the 20k I saved?" then list all the frivolous ways I will be spending my money. If my results are bad, I'll just delete my account.

Turkish guy sitting across from me at the cafe is extremely good looking. Solid 8. Eyelashes and eye color are everything.

 

[HighClassMaxing]

Is it basa or varol ?

 

[coke]

It's only cheap in a global context, but a surgeon can't charge global prices if they aren't globally recognized, unless they feel like jacking the prices up for foreign patients. Not doing that is a good sign, not a bad one, imo.

It's not like this is a bargain surgeon. It's just the going rate for surgery in Turkey.

Once I'm sure my results are good, I will make a thread to gloat about how much money I saved, shit on Ramieri, and make fun of user's IQ who paid 20,000+ plus. I already have a few ideas like "what should I do with the 20k I saved?" then list all the frivolous ways I will be spending my money. If my results are bad, I'll just delete my account.

That's what I mean, cheap is worrying when you've been continuously researching, I do understand where you're coming from, but I would definitely trust it over the NHS Free 10 year waiting list surgeries here in UK which 1000s of people do each year. I have actually noticed that the common price for a Bimax Surgery seems to be around $10k - $13k, when they start to get more recognized online, they add on 25%, then another 50%.

On terms of this website, it seems like a bargain surgeon, but when you think of it on the grand-scheme of surgeons probably not at all posted on these forums, it's probably close to the going rate, and considering Turkey can hack your legs and make you sprout up 4 inches for $20k, then I'm not surprised that they'd do jaw surgery for such a price.

I'm sure you're smart, you've researched and I trust that you know what you're getting into. I think with the 20k you saved you could host a giveaway on this forum so the funniest Manlet user can be paid a free trip to Istanbul to get Leg Lengthening surgery.

But seriously, best of luck, I do hope it all goes well and it's as certain as you hope. I hope he does the movements you want and your recessed Jawbone isn't being posted for sale on the Istanbul market by the end of the month.

 

[longjohnmong]

Is it basa or varol ?

No, and I would avoid Varol. Multiple people complaining of botches on Turkish Facebook group as well as someone on Reddit.

 

[Pakicel]

I've actually been speaking with a Bimax surgeon from the United Kingdom who is slightly blackpilled and also under the radar. The guy barely comes up on google searches but he moved here after training in Sao Paulo Brazil and doing 2 years in Italy, the issue is he doesn't do private, he will work on you if he gets Doctor approval through the NHS and the few people I've found that were lucky enough to get him are in disbelief at how good his results were, so I'm keeping my eye on him, he's one of the only UK Surgeons I've found that will admit to Jaw Implants/Facial Implants being a beneficial combination to Bimax.

Is it okay to cheap out on genio?

 

[VenatorLuparius]

Mirin low inhibition for trusting a turkroach for anything else than rhino or hair transplant.

 

[Deleted member 25059]

from 40 yo with 7K to 40 yo without 7K

 

[coke]

Is it okay to cheap out on genio?

I think it's fine to cheap out on anything as long as you research. I don't doubt at all that @longjohnmong has researched his Bimax and the person operating and the other people involved.

When it comes to Genioplasty, I've actually seen good results from the NHS Free UK ones, so I feel like a Genioplasty should be fine to cheap out on as long as you actually research the surgeon and I can't stress this enough.. make sure they have before and afters, if they don't, red flag.

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[Pakicel]

I think it's fine to cheap out on anything as long as you research. I don't doubt at all that @longjohnmong has researched his Bimax and the person operating and the other people involved.

When it comes to Genioplasty, I've actually seen good results from the NHS Free UK ones, so I feel like a Genioplasty should be fine to cheap out on as long as you actually research the surgeon and I can't stress this enough.. make sure they have before and afters, if they don't, red flag.

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Can I PM you?

 

[Pakicel]

Mirin low inhibition for trusting a turkroach for anything else than rhino or hair transplant.

Would you trust a turkroach for genio?

 

[coke]

Can I PM you?

Yeah if you want bro, I'm no expert but happy to help.

 

[longjohnmong]

from 40 yo with 7K to 40 yo without 7K

You're my rock, bro.

 

[Deleted member 25713]

For this cheap price did you manage to find a surgeon with decent experience and results?

 

[Deleted member 18582]

For this cheap price did you manage to find a surgeon with decent experience and results?

Many surgeons for this price and cheaper in Turkey I've found /been alerted to have done their degrees and residencies at major hospitals/universities in europe and usa, fwiw

 

[antsosa]

7k is insanely good price. mirin

 

[longjohnmong]

For this cheap price did you manage to find a surgeon with decent experience and results?

I believe so. I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't. Here's an exotic multi-piece mandibular surgery he did:

Not in the local Pittsburgh maxfacs repertoire I'm sure. And, yeah, his results are quite good. I think he designs his own implants, too, though I'm not sure. He might just outsource the design like other surgeons. I'm gonna ask him.

 

[Fairytale]

Good luck

[On the other side I look at the planning and I have a feeling that even 18mm pogonion is too little to achieve proper,long jawline.
Maybe my expectations are too high but for example I look at this "proto-planning" done by C; where he rotated everywhing and combined it somehow to get chin in line with nasal root(41.4mm) and I am looking at black line and I am like "damm it actually look good and not like chimp"]

Idk custom guide and plates give so many new ways to plan a surgery that was impossible before.

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Holy shi that’s cheap af

 

[Deleted member 25713]

Many surgeons for this price and cheaper in Turkey I've found /been alerted to have done their degrees and residencies at major hospitals/universities in europe and usa, fwiw

If I can get vertical genio for £5k my life will be complete.

 

[bradpittshairline]

I think it's actually fairly expensive for Turkey. There are Turkcels on this facebook group complaining about €2k bimax. Even muh Ramieri was only like €12k or less a couple years ago.

the commercial hype increases demand so these guys increase prices, dont blame them tho game is game. but 7k is still very good OP, is the surgeon aesthetically sound as u expected?

 

[longjohnmong]

If I can get vertical genio for £5k my life will be complete.

He does vertical genio w/ graft. My guess would be ~€3k for genio.

 

[longjohnmong]

the commercial hype increases demand so these guys increase prices, dont blame them tho game is game. but 7k is still very good OP, is the surgeon aesthetically sound as u expected?

All the results I've seen have been good. I saw a couple he does not have posted anywhere that were also good.

 

[bradpittshairline]

All the results I've seen have been good. I saw a couple he does not have posted anywhere that were also good.

hopefuel bro, if its 7k i might be able to get mine sooner than i planned. are u doing orthodontics?

 

[chemosh]

Looks overadvanced by a few mms, pog is ahead of SN

 

[longjohnmong]

Looks overadvanced by a few mms, pog is ahead of SN

SN? And are you looking at bone or soft tissue?

 

[chemosh]

SN? And are you looking at bone or soft tissue?

Soft tissue. Sn is the standard landmark used for the basis of your planning

 

[chemosh]

SN? And are you looking at bone or soft tissue?

I see you said about the implants. But if you remove an implant from what he is giving you the result would be recession. Since the implant wont affect lower lip and B point, i mean that looks to be his desired look. I mean its not off by much but id personally not aprove this plan.

He is making your upper lip align with lower lip and your pog. And all this ahead of Sn point. It looks like a mild class 3 look.

But tbh he is giving you the correct oclusion angle, so im sure it will be fine. I just dont like what he thinks is aesthetic

 

[Deleted member 27987]

Having trimax on Friday. Cost: €7k. I will post the surgeon's name after the surgery. Here is my surgical plan:

View attachment 2415482

8 degrees CCW rotation via posterior downgraft, 7.6mm maxilla advancement, 12mm mandible advancement (probably ~18mm after genio). I have a silicone chin implant that is throwing off the projected soft tissue result. I'm also getting genio, but I think he's just going to improvise that, maybe because of the chin implant issue.

Mirin, hope everything will be fine

 

[longjohnmong]

Mirin, hope everything will be fine

Thank you

 

[Tobias Fünke]

Best of luck @longjohnmong . Hope it all goes smoothly.

 

[longjohnmong]

I see you said about the implants. But if you remove an implant from what he is giving you the result would be recession. Since the implant wont affect lower lip and B point, i mean that looks to be his desired look. I mean its not off by much but id personally not aprove this plan.

He is making your upper lip align with lower lip and your pog. And all this ahead of Sn point. It looks like a mild class 3 look.

But tbh he is giving you the correct oclusion angle, so im sure it will be fine. I just dont like what he thinks is aesthetic

I actually agree with you. Are you familiar with the software and its reliability in predicting soft tissue changes?