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hello, as many of us are aware hgh has the potential to grow our face, thus making us more masculine and dimorphic. take example below:
as you can see, this man has acromegaly and has the biggest skull i have ever seen. however, with some cases of acromegaly come undesirable results, such as:
(pls don’t make fun of the poor guy)
however, unlike acromegaly patients, we can actually choose when to stop and when to continue. i take it the majority of you already know this and are rushing to type “water” in the replies. what i’m here to demonstrate is what TYPE of hgh is best for this, and how to THEORETICALLY avoid this with certain types of hgh. of course, the main goal is heightmaxxing, but for some (like me) facial growth is not desired. for others, it’s almost more important than heightmaxxing.
THE SCIENCE
take this graph of an acromegaly patient’s hgh levels, compared to a normal persons.
as you can see, acromegaly patients have somewhat of an “hgh bleed”. this is what i theorize leads to facial growth. keep this in mind.
now, what does this mean for most of us?
take a look at these graphs:
notice how hgh produces a bleed consistent with acromegaly patients? and how ghrp/ghrp mimicked the natural growth hormone release of a healthy person? that is the difference. HGH is KEY for facial growth. you need a gh bleed in order to grow facial proportions. however, if you just want the height without necessarily ogre-izing your face, ghrp and ghrh (WITHOUT DAC, we will talk more on that later) seem to be the best for avoiding facial growth. here’s more proof as to why ghrp/ghrh isn’t rlly good for facial growth:
notice how ghrp/ghrh gh blood concentration levels go range from 25-170 ng/ml. now here’s this graph:
notice how the females have exponentially high hgh levels, yet don’t usually look ogre-ish? it’s because it’s just a spike. sure, you could make the argument that androgens and hormones have a role here. but the truth still remains, people have natural hgh spikes and still don’t have their faces grow to ogre levels. once again, the key here is a gh bleed.
“then, what about mk 677 and cjc with dac? those create a gh bleed, no?”
it’s been long debunked that mk 677 doesn’t necessarily create a gh bleed. instead, it increases the already existing natural pulses, which would make it likely ineffective in facial growth. in fact, studies have shown that mk 677 is virtually indistinguishable from ghrp 6 in vivo and vitro. (Patchett AA, Nargund RP, Tata JR, et al. 1995 Design and biological activities of L-163,191 (MK-0677): a potent, orally active growth hormone secretagogue. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA. 92:7001–7005.). now, cjc with dac does show some promise, especially with such a long half life (17 days.). so, could you get away with using cjc (w/dac), paired up with maybe mk, or ghrp? it’s very possible. many bodybuilders have attempted to recreate hgh with peptides, and there’s even a whole article on it:
well, this is the conclusion. all in all, for some of you, hgh will remain king, while others (pretty boys lol) will likely rethink hgh usage. have a good day!
as you can see, this man has acromegaly and has the biggest skull i have ever seen. however, with some cases of acromegaly come undesirable results, such as:
(pls don’t make fun of the poor guy)
however, unlike acromegaly patients, we can actually choose when to stop and when to continue. i take it the majority of you already know this and are rushing to type “water” in the replies. what i’m here to demonstrate is what TYPE of hgh is best for this, and how to THEORETICALLY avoid this with certain types of hgh. of course, the main goal is heightmaxxing, but for some (like me) facial growth is not desired. for others, it’s almost more important than heightmaxxing.
THE SCIENCE
take this graph of an acromegaly patient’s hgh levels, compared to a normal persons.
as you can see, acromegaly patients have somewhat of an “hgh bleed”. this is what i theorize leads to facial growth. keep this in mind.
now, what does this mean for most of us?
take a look at these graphs:
notice how hgh produces a bleed consistent with acromegaly patients? and how ghrp/ghrp mimicked the natural growth hormone release of a healthy person? that is the difference. HGH is KEY for facial growth. you need a gh bleed in order to grow facial proportions. however, if you just want the height without necessarily ogre-izing your face, ghrp and ghrh (WITHOUT DAC, we will talk more on that later) seem to be the best for avoiding facial growth. here’s more proof as to why ghrp/ghrh isn’t rlly good for facial growth:
Dat's - CJC-1295 & GHRP-6 (Basic Guides)
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notice how ghrp/ghrh gh blood concentration levels go range from 25-170 ng/ml. now here’s this graph:
notice how the females have exponentially high hgh levels, yet don’t usually look ogre-ish? it’s because it’s just a spike. sure, you could make the argument that androgens and hormones have a role here. but the truth still remains, people have natural hgh spikes and still don’t have their faces grow to ogre levels. once again, the key here is a gh bleed.
“then, what about mk 677 and cjc with dac? those create a gh bleed, no?”
it’s been long debunked that mk 677 doesn’t necessarily create a gh bleed. instead, it increases the already existing natural pulses, which would make it likely ineffective in facial growth. in fact, studies have shown that mk 677 is virtually indistinguishable from ghrp 6 in vivo and vitro. (Patchett AA, Nargund RP, Tata JR, et al. 1995 Design and biological activities of L-163,191 (MK-0677): a potent, orally active growth hormone secretagogue. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA. 92:7001–7005.). now, cjc with dac does show some promise, especially with such a long half life (17 days.). so, could you get away with using cjc (w/dac), paired up with maybe mk, or ghrp? it’s very possible. many bodybuilders have attempted to recreate hgh with peptides, and there’s even a whole article on it:
CJC-1295 with dac..the "ONLY" GH peptide able to mimic the use of GH. Part #1 - Muscular Development Forums
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well, this is the conclusion. all in all, for some of you, hgh will remain king, while others (pretty boys lol) will likely rethink hgh usage. have a good day!
