Do you message girls first on Tinder?

[Deleted member 26212]

my arvidfish has a few matches now, but still very few women message first and they're usually unresponsive afterwards. Do you guys actually have to message these bitches and entertain them and then take them out and hope to fuck them?
That shit seems exhausting.

 

[Nims]

my arvidfish has a few likes now, but still very few women message first and they're usually unresponsive afterwards. Do you guys actually have to message these bitches and entertain them and then take them out and hope to fuck them?
That shit seems exhausting.

I get msged first about 5% of the time. Your account might be banned or something if everyone is unresponsive, it happened on my previous account and I had to reset everything.

 

[Deleted member 26212]

I get msged first about 5-10% of the time. Your account might be banned or something if everyone is unresponsive, it happened on my previous account and I had to reset everything.

No, I only message girls if they message me. Usually it's a "hey" or something and then I say "hey how are you" and that boring shit. Should I be more sexual? I'll try messaging "can you help me lose my virginity?" and see what happens

 

[Deleted member 16357]

My account on tinder is basically your arvid account: attractive non-NT selfies. Yep, I always message first. Matching is basically meaningless, because then you have to talk to them, see if they have their own place, see if they have the same sexual interests, see if they're just looking for a relationship, and see if they live near you. Add to that only liking white attractive women, and you are basically at around 1% of all girls. Brutal.

 

[Deleted member 26212]

My account on tinder is basically your arvid account: attractive non-NT selfies. Yep, I always message first. Matching is basically meaningless, because then you have to talk to them, see if they have their own place, see if they have the same sexual interests, see if they're just looking for a relationship, and see if they live near you. Add to that only liking white attractive women, and you are basically at around 1% of all girls. Brutal.

you ever get anything from it?

 

[Deleted member 16357]

you ever get anything from it?

Twice.

 

[agoostis]

yes i do

hinge mogs tho

 

[Deleted member 24235]

yes i do

hinge mogs tho

how

 

[agoostis]

how

girl respond over there, much more than in tinder
they even send the first message sometimes

 

[Deleted member 7580]

How many total matches did arvid get ?

 

[Prettyboy]

Messaging girls instantly the moment you match with them is a must, else your Elo will take a hit if you just stay passive

 

[Deleted member 19325]

Messaging girls instantly the moment you match with them is a must, else your Elo will take a hit if you just stay passive

How do you deal with rejection or them not responding ? on to the next or do you just unmatch from them? Btw jel znas hrvatski? Jasam doso u ameriku iz bosnia

 

[Deleted member 2268]

How do you deal with rejection or them not responding ? on to the next or do you just unmatch from them?

@lebronjames23 JFL at these retards

Zero masculine frame

 

[lebronjames23]

@lebronjames23 JFL at these retards

Zero masculine frame

muh looks are all that matter - when they have 0 social skills or game JFL

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Messaging girls instantly the moment you match with them is a must, else your Elo will take a hit if you just stay passive

@lebronjames23 Imagine being so desperate and showing lack of abundance mentality messaging them instantly. JFL at these guys.

Complete lack of masculine frame, abundance mentality, and high value communication

 

[Deleted member 19325]

muh looks are all that matter - when they have 0 social skills or game JFL

Nobody asked for you or your boyfriend’s opinion

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Nobody asked for you or your boyfriend’s opinion

Dude JFL at you running sarms and still having a shit water bloated physique being scared of being ghosted by girls. Pop some Proviron asap

 

[lebronjames23]

Nobody asked for you or your boyfriend’s opinion

How does it feel having a 4 lay count?

 

[Deleted member 19325]

Dude JFL at you running sarms and still having a shit water bloated physique being scared of being ghosted by girls. Pop some Proviron asap

Im 12 % Bf and not bloated at all lmao . Keep pushing your insecurities onto me . Im taller than u , have a bigger frame and slightly have more muscle than you . 3 in 1 boyo + face which i guarantee i have that aswell

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Im 12 % Bf and not bloated at all lmao . Keep pushing your insecurities onto me . Im taller than u , have a bigger frame and slightly have more muscle than you . 3 in 1 boyo + face which i guarantee i have that aswell

My frame is bigger I am 6’2 and have more muscle. Idk how you are pulling this out of thin air. You look like utter shit

Very glad your doing sarms bc they cause hormonal sides that I won’t go into but, glad to hear my competition is castrating themselves for 10 pounds of water weight

 

[Deleted member 19325]

My frame is bigger I am 6’2 and have more muscle. Idk how you are pulling this out of thin air. You look like utter shit

Very glad your doing sarms bc they cause hormonal sides that I won’t go into but, glad to hear my competition is castrating themselves for 10 pounds of water weight

no pic no proof no care , keep larping

 

[Deleted member 2268]

no pic no proof no care , keep larping

Cope

 

[DarkTetrad]

I gave up on online until I become wealthy and roid/peptidemax and looksmax.

Tbh I think I might have to give up irl too I’m just spinning my wheels

 

[DarkTetrad]

I gave up on online until I become wealthy and roid/peptidemax and looksmax.

Tbh I think I might have to give up irl too I’m just spinning my wheels

 

[Repentsinner]

Dnrd responses men are ultra simps

 

[Repentsinner]

Dnrd responses men are ultra simps

 

[Deleted member 24940]

Twice.

All that effort for 2 lays? Brutal, I'm just going to keep escortmaxxing tbh.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

@lebronjames23 Imagine being so desperate and showing lack of abundance mentality messaging them instantly. JFL at these guys.

Complete lack of masculine frame, abundance mentality, and high value communication

JFL @ "abundance mentality". foids have abundance REALITY.

The average non-obese white girl literally has thousands of men to choose from on tinder, the average man has barely any. Your not changing this with "abundance mentality".

 

[Usum]

Taking drugs to get muscular is really the height of laziness and stupidity.

 

[Deleted member 26212]

How many total matches did arvid get ?

He's on 31 likes/ matches rn but I think a lot of girls unmatched because I started messaging them autism. He was probably on >40 maybe even 50+
Mostly Beckys though, didn't match with any Stacys.

 

[Prettyboy]

How do you deal with rejection or them not responding ? on to the next or do you just unmatch from them? Btw jel znas hrvatski? Jasam doso u ameriku iz bosnia

I don’t care whether a single one responds or not, I only do this to push my Elo. I don’t unmatch them

@lebronjames23 Imagine being so desperate and showing lack of abundance mentality messaging them instantly. JFL at these guys.

Complete lack of masculine frame, abundance mentality, and high value communication

I have 15 000 + matches on Tinder, not in small part because I take Elo management very seriously

Its all about marketing and visibility, not masculine frame

 

[Gandy]

~1% of the time a match messages me first. Conversion rate of these into a ONS is about 100%. She already made the choice.

99% of the time I messaged the woman first. Conversion rate of these matches into a ONS is about 10% if she responds at all.
I also stopped 'entertaining' them as I got wearier and wearier of online dating, and I just went straight to the point.

If they wouldn't swap whatsapp or snapchat numbers within a few hours, just unmatch and move on.
You want them on an outside messaging platform asap, then either chat there with them for an hour or two or call them. Calling women especially if you have an acceptable or decent voice greatly increases your chances of getting an ONS.

In the beginning, I did go to a few dates out in parks, museums etc. but that got exhausting really fast even if I got a ONS out of that. It's too much effort.

 

[Deleted member 26212]

~1% of the time a match messages me first. Conversion rate of these into a ONS is about 100%. She already made the choice.

99% of the time I messaged the woman first. Conversion rate of these matches into a ONS is about 10% if she responds at all.
I also stopped 'entertaining' them as I got wearier and wearier of online dating, and I just went straight to the point.

If they wouldn't swap whatsapp or snapchat numbers within a few hours, just unmatch and move on.
You want them on an outside messaging platform asap, then either chat there with them for an hour or two or call them. Calling women especially if you have an acceptable or decent voice greatly increases your chances of getting an ONS.

In the beginning, I did go to a few dates out in parks, museums etc. but that got exhausting really fast even if I got a ONS out of that. It's too much effort.

So when a girl messages first, she's almost always dtf unless you start saying autistic shit?
And when you message first, do you ask to hookup before meeting up or go out with them still and hope for the best?

 

[Deleted member 2268]

I don’t care whether a single one responds or not, I only do this to push my Elo. I don’t unmatch them


I have 15 000 + matches on Tinder, not in small part because I take Elo management very seriously

Its all about marketing and visibility, not masculine frame

Whats your laycount

 

[Deleted member 16357]

All that effort for 2 lays? Brutal, I'm just going to keep escortmaxxing tbh.

Well, 2 girls, not 2 lays. It would be around 10 girls if I wasn't living with my mom. That alone cuts out most young girls since they live with their family or don't have their own private room.

 

[Deleted member 24940]

10% if she responds at all.
I also stopped 'entertaining' them as I got wearier and wearier of online dating, and I just went straight to the point.

This probably hurts your conversion rate.

Think about it from a foids perspective, she already has thousands of goodlooking guys matching so how does she decide who gets pussy? Probably through the guys personality and ability to jestermaxx and entertain her.

You should try hiring Indians from fiverr to manage your tinder and jestermaxx for you. It's like how onlyfans models will hire people to respond to their paid onlyfans DM's. The simps think they are really sexting to the OF model when in reality it's some fat curry man living in Mumbai.

 

[yugrunner]

my arvidfish has a few matches now, but still very few women message first and they're usually unresponsive afterwards. Do you guys actually have to message these bitches and entertain them and then take them out and hope to fuck them?
That shit seems exhausting.

yea bro i message girls first and i masturbate infront of them during the date

 

[yugrunner]

my arvidfish has a few matches now, but still very few women message first and they're usually unresponsive afterwards. Do you guys actually have to message these bitches and entertain them and then take them out and hope to fuck them?
That shit seems exhausting.

yea bro i message girls first and i masturbate infront of them during the date

 

[looksseg]

JFL @ "abundance mentality". foids have abundance REALITY.

The average non-obese white girl literally has thousands of men to choose from on tinder, the average man has barely any. Your not changing this with "abundance mentality".

Thats why you dont get results. Your mindset is that the girls are the prize

If you had the mindset that you are the prize the stacies would come naturally to you

 

[Blackgymmax]

no pic no proof no care , keep larping

No ive seen him hes an extreme mogger

 

[lebronjames23]

Thats why you dont get results. Your mindset is that the girls are the prize

If you had the mindset that you are the prize the stacies would come naturally to you

Masculine frame, inner belief and game is EVERYTHING.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Taking drugs to get muscular is really the height of laziness and stupidity.

True that.
I was always ugly skinny-fat twinks, and I could gain some muscle mass in some months with high effort. And I'm even old.

You manage to keep da undefeated agepill, out of the door a bit, still?

 

[Usum]

Taking drugs to get muscular is really the height of laziness and stupidity.

Well, 2 girls, not 2 lays. It would be around 10 girls if I wasn't living with my mom. That alone cuts out most young girls since they live with their family or don't have their own private room.

Well, many girls were happy to come to my parents' home when I was 15-20 yo.
Never had any complaints.
Women will do anything to meet you when and where you want if they like you.

 

[Usum]

BUG

 

[LOST]

Tinder is like real life
Men make the moves. You gotta be insanely attractive to get most girls to talk to you first.
You move, you look good and they respond well.
Thats all

 

[Usum]

True that.
I was always ugly skinny-fat twinks, and I could gain some muscle mass in some months with high effort. And I'm even old.

You manage to keep da undefeated agepill, out of the door a bit, still?

Yes. It is just about being persistent. It is an accumulation process.
I do about 5 workouts per week for around 40 minutes and it is largely enough to build a good frame.
The longer you do it, the larger you will get with muscles' memory.
Basically, at 49, I am much better than 30 years ago whereas I was already in very good shape at that time.
Plus men my age look like shit so you can get in the 1% easily (with looksmaxxing)

But maybe I have insane genetics.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yes. It is just about being persistent. It is an accumulation process.
I do about 5 workouts per week for around 40 minutes and it is largely enough to build a good frame.
The longer you do it, the larger you will get with muscles' memory.
Basically, at 49, I am much better than 30 years ago whereas I was already in very good shape at that time.
Plus men my age look like shit so you can get in the 1% easily (with looksmaxxing)

But maybe I have insane genetics.

good job.

Yeah, at older age we can still build a better body shape.
I changed from left to right below, in some months time. high effort and obviously natty. And I'm late 30's old.

 

[Deleted member 23017]

I can't speak for the present but back when I was on Tinder with my own pictures (LTN / MTN MAYBE, white guy, blue eyes, pale skin, light brown hair, 5'9) the few matches I got I would always msg them and ask them if they wanted to smash. Lol foids got mad but whatever, at least I'm not a simp. Fuck life and everyone. I'm cursed with this stupid nonsense.

 

[RichardSpencel]

How does it feel having a 4 lay count?

4 more than me and you combined

 

[Deleted member 24940]

good job.

Yeah, at older age we can still build a better body shape.
I changed from left to right below, in some months time. high effort and obviously natty. And I'm late 30's old.
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You should get on TRT if your 40, it will make you feel like a 20 year old.