Do you message girls first on Tinder?

[Deleted member 16357]

Taking drugs to get muscular is really the height of laziness and stupidity.

Well, many girls were happy to come to my parents' home when I was 15-20 yo.
Never had any complaints.
Women will do anything to meet you when and where you want if they like you.

i dont want girls to come over to my house with paper thin walls, I’m uncomortable with that.

 

[szolliontaraelis]

My frame is bigger I am 6’2 and have more muscle. Idk how you are pulling this out of thin air. You look like utter shit

Very glad your doing sarms bc they cause hormonal sides that I won’t go into but, glad to hear my competition is castrating themselves for 10 pounds of water weight

Test only mogs tbh. I’m in the second week of my 500mg/w cycle and my arms literally increased an inch already. Plus, my facial hair grows faster and thicker.

 

[Hero of the Imperium]

You should get on TRT if your 40, it will make you feel like a 20 year old.

I'm not 40 yet, 30s cel, but start first with the occasional microdose longjack (tongkat ali) for free T and dopamine, as well as creatine for DHT if not already on

Be careful with creatine as oldcels will be reaching the age where prostate becomes an issue, not to mention hair

 

[eduardkoopman]

You should get on TRT if your 40, it will make you feel like a 20 year old.

i prefer to stay natty 4 life. But before I hopp on, I would only do so after having been tested on T-levels.
i don't really feel worse, than when I was 20, actually.

 

[chasingaesthetics]

Dude JFL at you running sarms and still having a shit water bloated physique being scared of being ghosted by girls. Pop some Proviron asap

he need to pop some molly not proviron

 

[Usum]

The reasons you train and especially your mindset (lazy? not being patient?) will lead to different results.
If you want to fight ageing, it is mandatory to train very regularly but with 50/70% of your max rep.... and always the same muscle groups in each session... so a full body workout. Believe me. Take a 1/2 week rest every 4/6 weeks.

Once again, there is no long term benefit to lifting too heavy. NONE.

Now, women like muscles but very few will enjoy huge muscles. Plus being 12%-15% is very easy, even at my age.
So, there is no need to take crap or lift heavy. It's a loss every fucking time and you will pay the price later.
When you see the SARMS disaster, it's really a heartbreaker.

 

[Eren]

~1% of the time a match messages me first. Conversion rate of these into a ONS is about 100%. She already made the choice.

99% of the time I messaged the woman first. Conversion rate of these matches into a ONS is about 10% if she responds at all.
I also stopped 'entertaining' them as I got wearier and wearier of online dating, and I just went straight to the point.

If they wouldn't swap whatsapp or snapchat numbers within a few hours, just unmatch and move on.
You want them on an outside messaging platform asap, then either chat there with them for an hour or two or call them. Calling women especially if you have an acceptable or decent voice greatly increases your chances of getting an ONS.

In the beginning, I did go to a few dates out in parks, museums etc. but that got exhausting really fast even if I got a ONS out of that. It's too much effort.

so its a sign of high interest if she messages first ? i had a ONS layed up with a girl that messaged first some months ago but i said some autistic shit and she unmatched

when girls message me first i was always like hey how are you hows the weather and shit like that

 

[Gandy]

so its a sign of high interest if she messages first ? i had a ONS layed up with a girl that messaged first some months ago but i said some autistic shit and she unmatched

when girls message me first i was always like hey how are you hows the weather and shit like that

They don't want to talk about the weather and it's not why they signed up for the app, and every single simp asks them how they are how their day was.

Need to take the conversation to proposing a real life meeting within the first one or two messages.

If they really find you hot it works every single time. If they're there only to pass time they say nothing and you move on to another match.

Obviously need real life chat skills for this to work, but the main thing is getting them off the app and into a messenger to set up a phone call (best), whatsapp or snapchat text chat, and live meeting somewhere they feel safe.