Electromuscular stimulation is legit for the face.

insane if true. try it and report results if you end up getting the ems
yea its trains a muslce there that hold the blood in your dick and doesnt let it out. soo harder dick. know i guy who says it saved him from ED. i ordered it but didnt try yet cuz high inhib
 
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yea its trains a muslce there that hold the blood in your dick and doesnt let it out. soo harder dick. know i guy who says it saved him from ED. i ordered it but didnt try yet cuz high inhib
lol I thought you were joking
it proabably trains the same thing kegels train then Ig
 
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I already posted before about the important of the malaris muscle in raising fat.

Here are before/afters of EMS, notice how the fat moves upwards:
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This is the muscle:

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(SB and LB)

One botox injection to this muscle has devastating effects on the face:

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His whole face starts drooping, obvious jowls as well.
damn this is insane will try it out and report changes i heard something SMAS muscle and laughing being bad i was wondering would stretching the lip muscle be bad for this as well? as i am stretching them for better width ??
 
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Yes its very underlooked here
You can literally get an angular jaw (by hypertrophy of lower masseters) and straight lower eyelids with ems. Been saying this for months
damn straight lower eyelids from ems thats pretty nuts do you think you could create larger under eyelid muscle which will then push out more fat ?
 
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damn straight lower eyelids from ems thats pretty nuts do you think you could create larger under eyelid muscle which will then push out more fat ?
what do you mean by pushing out more fat? you mean pull the skin like in a face lift or something? more under eye support?
 
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what do you mean by pushing out more fat? you mean pull the skin like in a face lift or something? more under eye support?
so when the under eye muscle hypetrophies this should provide better under eye support and better appearance of aegyo sal (under eye fat that makes you look more youthful) imagine the muscle acting as a balloon pushing the fat out thus providing butter under eye support
 
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so when the under eye muscle hypetrophies this should provide better under eye support and better appearance of aegyo sal (under eye fat that makes you look more youthful) imagine the muscle acting as a balloon pushing the fat out thus providing butter under eye support
Well when you hypertrophy the malaris it will lift everything so under eye support will improve
For even better under eye support I believe you need more fat and not to hypertrophy the muscle right under the eye. Too much aegyo sal might look bad tbh and it wont give what u want. Try sunflower oil under your eyes for a few months it should increase fat there.
 
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Well when you hypertrophy the malaris it will lift everything so under eye support will improve
For even better under eye support I believe you need more fat and not to hypertrophy the muscle right under the eye. Too much aegyo sal might look bad tbh and it wont give what u want. Try sunflower oil under your eyes for a few months it should increase fat there.
Oil for more fat?
 
Oil for more fat?
Yes its a PUFA oil it is obsogenic and increases adipogenesis. It strongly activates PPAR receptors, which is the most important adipose tissue receptor in humans.

If you can get your hands on pure linoleic acid or arachidonic acid (fatty acids found in oils like sunflower oil) then even better. Because oils dont have that many free fatty acids for the skin to absorb.
 
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Yes its a PUFA oil it is obsogenic and increases adipogenesis. It strongly activates PPAR receptors, which is the most important adipose tissue receptor in humans.

If you can get your hands on pure linoleic acid or arachidonic acid (fatty acids found in oils like sunflower oil) then even better. Because oils dont have that many free fatty acids for the skin to absorb.
Very interesting, so you propose that this can be absorbed within the skin and adipogenesis will occur in the corresponding fat pad? I'm really curious to see if there are any examples of this to see.
 
Very interesting, so you propose that this can be absorbed within the skin and adipogenesis will occur in the corresponding fat pad? I'm really curious to see if there are any examples of this to see.
yea we already have retin a and latisse/prostaglandins that can cause significant localized fat loss.

some studies:
and there are many more..

even strong topical corticosteroids can too but they also thin the skin.

applying anything topically that strongly increases fat either by adipogenesis or by other mechanisms will eventually cause an increase of fat to the area applied.
 
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Yes its very underlooked here
You can literally get an angular jaw (by hypertrophy of lower masseters) and straight lower eyelids with ems. Been saying this for months
make a thread about it and tag me.
 
Well when you hypertrophy the malaris it will lift everything so under eye support will improve
For even better under eye support I believe you need more fat and not to hypertrophy the muscle right under the eye. Too much aegyo sal might look bad tbh and it wont give what u want. Try sunflower oil under your eyes for a few months it should increase fat there.
It seems that I have the medial bundle of the malaris muscle present on my face, which makes it hard to use it without crunching up my nose and causing the hook effect.
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I already posted before about the important of the malaris muscle in raising fat.

Here are before/afters of EMS, notice how the fat moves upwards:
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This is the muscle:

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(SB and LB)

One botox injection to this muscle has devastating effects on the face:

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His whole face starts drooping, obvious jowls as well.
People think that this is legit and scientific and say that mewing is bullshit. Holy.​
 
I tryed once and it felt like I was fucking up my teeth and face so I stopped.
 
Maybe the lateral bundle is just very weak
Have you tried ems?
That is a possibiity for sure

Yes I tried EMS but having a tough as hell time getting the electrodes to stick after I cut them to a small size.
 
That is a possibiity for sure

Yes I tried EMS but having a tough as hell time getting the electrodes to stick after I cut them to a small size.
You can put the wires over your ears just like glasses and then use a weak tape to hold the electrodes in place
 
yea we already have retin a and latisse/prostaglandins that can cause significant localized fat loss.

some studies:
and there are many more..

even strong topical corticosteroids can too but they also thin the skin.

applying anything topically that strongly increases fat either by adipogenesis or by other mechanisms will eventually cause an increase of fat to the area applied.
So retin a CAN destroy under eye supporting fat as well as hooding fat? Does this happen to everyone using? And if using retin a, how to know if this is happening and how long of a usage results in fat loss?
 
So retin a CAN destroy under eye supporting fat as well as hooding fat? Does this happen to everyone using? And if using retin a, how to know if this is happening and how long of a usage results in fat loss?
Probably more likely to happen if you over use it. Like using it more than once per day.
But it can happen with regular usage it seems.
I dont know how long it would take to see this fat loss. Im guessing a couple of months.

You dont need retin a for good skin anyway. Idk who established this retin a requirement in this forum.
 
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You can put the wires over your ears just like glasses and then use a weak tape to hold the electrodes in place
just tried it, having a hard time getting the muscle to fire. I might need to keep playing with electrode position Strange how I can feel it flex fine whenever I do a squinch.

What do you think of resistance exercises like placing a finger at the bottom of the lateral bundle and lifting it up against the resistance of the finger? Another thing I was thinking is rather than rely on resting muscle tone, is there any way to induce adaptive muscle shortening?

Probably more likely to happen if you over use it. Like using it more than once per day.
But it can happen with regular usage it seems.
I dont know how long it would take to see this fat loss. Im guessing a couple of months.

You dont need retin a for good skin anyway. Idk who established this retin a requirement in this forum.
Can this be avoided if you don't use retin A anywhere near the eye area?
 
just tried it, having a hard time getting the muscle to fire. I might need to keep playing with electrode position Strange how I can feel it flex fine whenever I do a squinch.

What do you think of resistance exercises like placing a finger at the bottom of the lateral bundle and lifting it up against the resistance of the finger? Another thing I was thinking is rather than rely on resting muscle tone, is there any way to induce adaptive muscle shortening?
in the beginning i could barely feel it tbh. its been 2 or 3 weeks and i can contract it now. yours might be very atrophied which is normal in the beginning

i do that foid squinch exercise placing my finger on top of the malaris. its more for mind muscle connection but ig it does add a little resistance. its a good idea

for inducing adaptive muscle shortening if your ems has a battery you can leave the electrodes there for a few hours. id recommend taking a break every 30 min or so for like 3 min tho so your skin doesnt get too irritated.
still I think this might be a better idea when the malaris is somewhat toned. you might tire the muscle too much from this if its too weak already, preventing it from recovering and tightening.
and maybe you can contract the malaris isolated given enough time. so you can just keep it contracted during the day. so it should shorten.
Can this be avoided if you don't use retin A anywhere near the eye area?
yea if you dont use it near the eyes nothing should happen there. retin a can thin out the fat anywhere you apply it tho. just keep that in mind.
 
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in the beginning i could barely feel it tbh. its been 2 or 3 weeks and i can contract it now. yours might be very atrophied which is normal in the beginning

i do that foid squinch exercise placing my finger on top of the malaris. its more for mind muscle connection but ig it does add a little resistance. its a good idea

for inducing adaptive muscle shortening if your ems has a battery you can leave the electrodes there for a few hours. id recommend taking a break every 30 min or so for like 3 min tho so your skin doesnt get too irritated.
still I think this might be a better idea when the malaris is somewhat toned. you might tire the muscle too much from this if its too weak already, preventing it from recovering and tightening.
and maybe you can contract the malaris isolated given enough time. so you can just keep it contracted during the day. so it should shorten.

yea if you dont use it near the eyes nothing should happen there. retin a can thin out the fat anywhere you apply it tho. just keep that in mind.
Ok I'll persist at this. I will see how it goes.

Retin A would be great for hollow cheeks and stubborn face fat in that case.
 
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Ok I'll persist at this. I will see how it goes.

Retin A would be great for hollow cheeks and stubborn face fat in that case.
From experience Retin A did not change my face fat at all.
 
Interesting. Maybe it varies by individual, skin thickness and porosity.
I dont think it even does anything noticible on terms of fat loss, I have seen thousands of transformations on reddit and YouTube, their facial fat did not change at all. I think the fat reduction thing is a meme used to fear monger people honestly.
 
I dont think it even does anything noticible on terms of fat loss, I have seen thousands of transformations on reddit and YouTube, their facial fat did not change at all. I think the fat reduction thing is a meme used to fear monger people honestly.
It is a fact it will reduce fat tho. There are studies on it.
What might make you lose fat is how often you will use it. Once a day like most people use probably does not cause any significant fat reduction for the majority of people.
There is no reason to fearmonger retin a at all.
 
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It is a fact it will reduce fat tho. There are studies on it.
What might make you lose fat is how often you will use it. Once a day like most people use probably does not cause any significant fat reduction for the majority of people.
There is no reason to fearmonger retin a at all.
Oh interesting, but is it even noticible to the naked eye? I personally haven't seen anyone actually getting a leaner face from it though.
 
Oh interesting, but is it even noticible to the naked eye? I personally haven't seen anyone actually getting a leaner face from it though.
well idk. prob harder to see in a 2d picture.
not many people use it more than once per day tho. and nobody really uses it for fat reduction.

and this reduction will depend on many factors such as the % of retin a, usage frequency and etc

if you use it strictly for fat reduction, that is a few times per day, it should be significant.

also if you search for retin a fat loss you will see some people relating it even with regular usage
 
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well idk. prob harder to see in a 2d picture.
not many people use it more than once per day tho. and nobody really uses it for fat reduction.

and this reduction will depend on many factors such as the % of retin a, usage frequency and etc

if you use it strictly for fat reduction, that is a few times per day, it should be significant.

also if you search for retin a fat loss you will see some people relating it even with regular usage
Another thing I just thought of was fat freezing with putting ice packs in the buccal fat and submandibular area
 
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Probably more likely to happen if you over use it. Like using it more than once per day.
But it can happen with regular usage it seems.
I dont know how long it would take to see this fat loss. Im guessing a couple of months.

You dont need retin a for good skin anyway. Idk who established this retin a requirement in this forum.
What’s needed for good skin tho then? I have hyperpigmentation, acne scars (rolling and box), some active acne as well as bad collagen (aging and smoke). Also some crepey skin under eyes.
 
Another thing I just thought of was fat freezing with putting ice packs in the buccal fat and submandibular area
That works for increasing brown fat at any area you apply it to
 
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What’s needed for good skin tho then? I have hyperpigmentation, acne scars (rolling and box), some active acne as well as bad collagen (aging and smoke). Also some crepey skin under eyes.
Diet and coconut oil
To fix acne scars and hyperpigmentation you need other shit like lasers or whatever
For good skin (collagen, clearness and glow) all you need is a decent diet with no foods that are inflammatory (like processed carbs) and some coconut oil.
 
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That works for increasing brown fat at any area you apply it to
My knowledge is limited on the types of fat.

But what about techniques like cryolipolysis that kill the fat cells? Or the localized fat loss from eating ice pops regularly on the lips. Do you think these utilize different patterns and temperatures?
 
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Diet and coconut oil
To fix acne scars and hyperpigmentation you need other shit like lasers or whatever
For good skin (collagen, clearness and glow) all you need is a decent diet with no foods that are inflammatory (like processed carbs) and some coconut oil.
Fr just apply coconut oil on face? I have oily skin bro I don’t think that’s optimal for me acne. I’m thinking of getting some sunflower oil to apply under my lower &upper eyelid area like you mentioned somewhere else.
 
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Fr just apply coconut oil on face? I have oily skin bro I don’t think that’s optimal for me acne. I’m thinking of getting some sunflower oil to apply under my lower &upper eyelid area like you mentioned somewhere else.
If you have oily skin and u start using coconut oil regularly ur skin will produce less oil given enough time.
I also had oily skin before coconut oil. Not anymore..
 
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My knowledge is limited on the types of fat.

But what about techniques like cryolipolysis that kill the fat cells? Or the localized fat loss from eating ice pops regularly on the lips. Do you think these utilize different patterns and temperatures?
Do u have examples of the ice pops on the lips fat loss?
 
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Interesting. There are definitely other factors and mechanisms in cold exposure that leads to fat loss other than brown fat increase.
Yo nigga did u fucking get this shit to work, I just got the EMS and all the shock goes through my fucking canines instead of muscle, if I up the intensity it starts getting inside the head instead.

Have you kept doing it daily? Any effects? Can you make a vidya where you put electodes?
 
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Nvm I figured it out, apperently you can only contract muscles at high frequency, low frequency will fuck you up.


For those lurking:

EMS


You want about 50-70 Hz for full muscle activation.
 
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i bought recently a feipushy machine for Micro current i talked abt it in a recent post

Like it's better than facial exercice because you don't move muscle like a dumbass

Amazon product ASIN B08XM61ZY9
this type of shit

OP do i need nuface or this one works ?

Nuface is the same machine but like 400 dollars i don't know the difference between them so i went for the cheap one on amazon
looks the same tbh probably just bullshit marketing branding

But also is there other way to EMS ? Like more powerful or else ???

I don't even the machine power tbh
 

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