ES Ratio- Jaw is law

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

people say that there are features that can go around a low es ratio, some of which include wider eyebrows, curtains, and long eyelashes. one thing that i havent heard, and what i believe impacts es ratio perception the most, is jaw tapering. ill explain what i mean by that in a sec.

look at zayn malik here, what would you guess his es ratio? well dont even try, because i already know youre wrong.
it's .408. for a pretty boy like him, a death tier es ratio would kill his career. his eyebrows arent that wide, his pfl is small, his zygos are completely exposed, the only thing he has here are long lashes but that alone isnt enough to fraud es ratio. let's inspect why his es ratio doesnt impact him at all, and what i meant by jaw tapering.
there are two parts to jaw tapering, on the ramus (red) , and on the gonions to chin (blue)

the red part is the high bizygo to bigonial ratio coupled with a long ramus
the blue is basically a downswung jaw along with the long mandible body length and tall chin height (the more of all of these= the more tapered blue region).

hopefully this was some lifefuel for you es ratio/ipdcels out there.

 

[Deleted member 9380]

zayn malik

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

bumo

 

[RichardwillImprove]

bumo

Confused.

 

[CasualFapper]

Just get lazy eye to cure es ratio

 

[MisterMercedes]

His ES ratio is a .44 and he doesn’t have a tall ramus.

His eyebrows are long.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

His ES ratio is a .44 and he doesn’t have a tall ramus.

His eyebrows are long.

retard !

 

[MisterMercedes]

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Not what I got but that’s not a good picture to use anyways as hair obscures the center of his pupil.

Got a .446.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Not what I got but that’s not a good picture to use anyways as hair obscures the center of his pupil.

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Got a .446.

retard !

 

[MisterMercedes]

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Don’t know how you’re getting such low results.

I can assure you he doesn’t have a .40-.41. This is what a .40 ESR looks like:

Not this:

 

[recessed]

Jaw = law
eyearea is borderline meaningless for looking good its all about jaw zygos hair and midface ratio

 

[MisterMercedes]

Jaw = law
eyearea is borderline meaningless for looking good its all about jaw zygos hair and midface ratio

Dumb comment on a dumb thread.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Don’t know how you’re getting such low results.

I can assure you he doesn’t have a .40-.41. This is what a .40 ESR looks like:

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Not this:

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marko has .37-.38 lol

 

[MisterMercedes]

marko has .37=.38 lol

Wrong once again.

 

[Hightwolf]

Wrong once again.

tbf I measured and got 0.41 in the first pic but 0.426 in the second so idk

 

[MisterMercedes]

tbf I measured and got 0.41 in the first pic but 0.426 in the second so idk

Yeah I measured again and got .41. No way he has a .38 ESR.

 

[Warlow]

Wrong once again.

why don't you post your measurements this time tbh? I sent you the pfl numbers on the last thread and @TheEndHasNoEnd is showing you the numbers on this one. You are firing blanks rn

 

[Hightwolf]

Yeah I measured again and got .41. No way he has a .38 ESR.

no i meant zayn, for marko i got 0.39

 

[MisterMercedes]

why don't you post your measurements this time tbh? I sent you the pfl numbers on the last thread and @TheEndHasNoEnd is showing you the numbers on this one. You are firing blanks rn

I’m not using an app that shows the numbers like his but I’ll show you the measurement:

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

I’m not using an app that shows the numbers like his but I’ll show you the measurement:

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yes es ratio is measured with ramus to zygos yes yes

 

[MisterMercedes]

no i meant zayn, for marko i got 0.39

Even if that’s true that would mean, under this guy’s measurement, there’s only a .01 (.40 versus .39) difference between the ESR of Jaric and Malik. That’s clearly not the degree to which their ESR differs.

 

[MisterMercedes]

yes es ratio is measured with ramus to zygos yes yes

What?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

What?

you are measuring from the start of the left ramus to the lower end of the right zygo, its supposed to be the most prominent areas of both zygos

 

[MisterMercedes]

you are measuring from the start of the left ramus to the lower end of the right zygo, its supposed to be the most prominent areas of both zygos

My mistake. You’re correct about the measurements.

Malik does not have a tall ramus though.

 

[JamesHowlett]

@TheEndHasNoEnd When you say jaw tapering do you mean narrower jaw?

Also does fringe have same effect as curtains in this respect?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

@TheEndHasNoEnd When you say jaw tapering do you mean narrower jaw?

Ye but more than just that if you read the thread

Also does fringe have same effect as curtains in this respect?

Naw

 

[Melo95]

My mistake. You’re correct about the measurements.

Malik does not have a tall ramus though.

Broooo. Now literally all your threads about ES ratio are low quality cuz you measured like this

 

[MisterMercedes]

Broooo. Now literally all your threads about ES ratio are low quality cuz you measured like this

That one thread I made.

 

[Melo95]

That one thread I made.

OK only one?

 

[MisterMercedes]

OK only one?

Indeed and it wasn’t really about ESR but about how ESR interacts with PFL.

 

[Melo95]

Indeed and it wasn’t really about ESR but about how ESR interacts with PFL.

But weren't you the one that said how the ideal ES ratio range isn't true? That it can be larger?

 

[MisterMercedes]

But weren't you the one that said how the ideal ES ratio range isn't true? That it can be larger?

That was the one about how PFL interacts with ESR. If you have a very high PFL like Gandy, a slightly higher ESR like Gandy (.49) is ideal as opposed to the “ideal” of .45-.47.

 

[MisterMercedes]

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