FAT GRAFTING RESULTS (HIGHLY REQUESTED)

[AlucarddraculA121]

Adding some data points since I just got this done at Rattinan with Dr. Game (not Tacheevi) 4 days ago. Filled the fuck out of the infras, a bit on zygos and temples, and some on supras.
Everyone so far is right about needing to be insistent on overfilling basically as much as possible if you look anything like the people who have posted pics so far.
During the procedure when they finally showed me the mirror to ask if I’m sarisfied, I unironically looked as botched if not more than bogdanoff due to the swelling. They said they already filled by 200% (4mL instead or 2mL in the undereye for example) so I basically just called it there besides some minor tweaks cuz it would be OVER if I looked even half that bad.
I’ve been healing from the swelling really fast. I got it Monday afternoon, it’s Friday morning, and I already look pretty much presentable swelling wise, besides the yellowish-green discoloration/bruising.
I would be pretty happy with this as my final result after my eyebrows/UEE lower like people have been saying happens, but it’s still probably over for me and I’ll need to go for a second round if it gets like >15% smaller
These pictures are kinda shit and angle frauded but at least I’ll post my ‘final’ results 2 months or so from now and try to be same angle/lighting as pre-op

Pre-op:
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2 days post-op:
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View attachment 4648955 This one mogs hard and I wish this was my final result but with a little more LEE and eyebrow dropping
4 days post-op (now):
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Looks like 200% is the new 130%.

Great results bro. Hope the all fat survives.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Adding some data points since I just got this done at Rattinan with Dr. Game (not Tacheevi) 4 days ago. Filled the fuck out of the infras, a bit on zygos and temples, and some on supras.
Everyone so far is right about needing to be insistent on overfilling basically as much as possible if you look anything like the people who have posted pics so far.
During the procedure when they finally showed me the mirror to ask if I’m sarisfied, I unironically looked as botched if not more than bogdanoff due to the swelling. They said they already filled by 200% (4mL instead or 2mL in the undereye for example) so I basically just called it there besides some minor tweaks cuz it would be OVER if I looked even half that bad.
I’ve been healing from the swelling really fast. I got it Monday afternoon, it’s Friday morning, and I already look pretty much presentable swelling wise, besides the yellowish-green discoloration/bruising.
I would be pretty happy with this as my final result after my eyebrows/UEE lower like people have been saying happens, but it’s still probably over for me and I’ll need to go for a second round if it gets like >15% smaller
These pictures are kinda shit and angle frauded but at least I’ll post my ‘final’ results 2 months or so from now and try to be same angle/lighting as pre-op

Pre-op:
View attachment 4648951
2 days post-op:
View attachment 4648954
View attachment 4648955 This one mogs hard and I wish this was my final result but with a little more LEE and eyebrow dropping
4 days post-op (now):
View attachment 4648958

I get why you say it mogs hard but it was kinda uncanny. Your 4 days post op looks better will prolly lose fat

 

[Vajra-]

I get why you say it mogs hard but it was kinda uncanny. Your 4 days post op looks better will prolly lose fat

I guess, but mainly due to the raised eyebrows I would argue. But yeah I am/was going for a more high appeal anyways look that keeps aegyo sal and a slight hint of UEE too. To each their own though, that’s just me. Day 2 was basically Barrett lite eye support with james sapphire tier zygos at the 3/4, and zero LEE, which lowkey mogged the way it accentuated the medial canthi. So if that’s what someone wants then it’s possible if you overfill hard af and probably in 2 procedures.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

I guess, but mainly due to the raised eyebrows I would argue. But yeah I am/was going for a more high appeal anyways look that keeps aegyo sal and a slight hint of UEE too. To each their own though, that’s just me. Day 2 was basically Barrett lite eye support with james sapphire tier zygos at the 3/4, and zero LEE, which lowkey mogged the way it accentuated the medial canthi. So if that’s what someone wants then it’s possible if you overfill hard af and probably in 2 procedures.

Alright and is it the doc who mentionned grafting on the zygos during the initial consultation or you?
What made you want to do it ? And how much of the result is caused by it ?

 

[Vajra-]

Alright and is it the doc who mentionned grafting on the zygos during the initial consultation or you?
What made you want to do it ? And how much of the result is caused by it ?

Mainly that I want to increase FWHR, so I told him to focus on the lateral arches. My idea. A little bit to the zygo peaks anteriorly would also make all the added mass to the infras a bit more natural.
However, a lot of it has died/deswelled just like the undereye. Not satisfied with the width tbh, I think I was def too conservative. Easy to overdo zygos though aesthetically

 

[Henry Latham]

I've planned a consult for a possible fat grafting in the upper eyelid sulcus to fix my UEE.
On the left you see my ''current'' eye area (i'm already working on fixing my eyebrows). On the right you see someone who has a very similar eye (and face) shape, but with a better fat distribution. Should I ask for an eye area that is more like that of Chico?

Also, i'm not from Australia, so i'm doing it in my local area. Is there a reason why everyone is going to Thailand for this surgery? What should I pay attention to? From what i've read this is on of the least botched surgeries out their, but I don't want my face destroyed ofcourse.

 

[kilgrave]

1 month update, as promised.

 

[kilgrave]

hows the result aesthetically so far, is it still uncanny?

Think it's getting better.

 

[Nahorscend]

Is there a reason why everyone is going to Thailand for this surgery?

Because one guy on this forum went there and posted his results and most people liked it, so the next went, and then the next, and by this point that doctor has been trained by this forum to create that look.

Since actual before/afters are rarely posted here, people who take a chance with some random doctor they find and then post results make the hivemind think that doctor is the best on earth for that procedure.

 

[vermicel]

1 month update, as promised.

Before / +1 month :

Does it look to you like a fair and realistic comparison between the two ?

 

[kilgrave]

Before / +1 month :

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Does it look to you like a fair and realistic comparison between the two ?

Wow, when framed like this I look like one fat fuck.
As good a comparison as can be made with what I provided.

As far as the result thus far, I will say that if the lateral crease does not straighten out (right now you can see it's curved) - and I'm not holding my breath - I will likely follow in Rogers' footsteps to this mystery surgeon who can drop it permanently, provided all turns out well. The straight crease IS where the magic lies.

 

[Jgns]

Wow, when framed like this I look like one fat fuck.
As good a comparison as can be made with what I provided.

As far as the result thus far, I will say that if the lateral crease does not straighten out (right now you can see it's curved) - and I'm not holding my breath - I will likely follow in Rogers' footsteps to this mystery surgeon who can drop it permanently, provided all turns out well. The straight crease IS where the magic lies.

and the eyebrow location is imo the biggest factor

 

[Henry Latham]

The before looks better imo.

Before / +1 month :

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Does it look to you like a fair and realistic comparison between the two ?

Undereye looks better. Rest looks worse tbh. Looks bloated and eyebrows are higher.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Yeah.

They were running a special in November (when I paid) where PRP was included.

Before surgery, the doc was talking about 200%...no idea where he landed.

Examples attached (I was directing his attention to the common features I wanted to emulate).

Do you think perhaps too much was injected on Supras?
And prolly you’ll lose some on Supras and eyesbrows will lower.
Now you look fat Idk if that’s on the doc or just you’re retaining the graft in a different way
Undereye looks better tho

 

[snowslayer]

fat grafting has become a meme on this forum. I been thinking about botox to lower brows which is also kinda a meme but should work but has to have lots of touch ups.

Do you think perhaps too much was injected on Supras?
And prolly you’ll lose some on Supras and eyesbrows will lower.
Now you look fat Idk if that’s on the doc or just you’re retaining the graft in a different way
Undereye looks better tho

 

[kilgrave]

Do you think perhaps too much was injected on Supras?
And prolly you’ll lose some on Supras and eyesbrows will lower.
Now you look fat Idk if that’s on the doc or just you’re retaining the graft in a different way
Undereye looks better tho

The only thing I know for sure is it's been one month of zero exercise and an excess of fast food. A first, if I'm being honest.

Will likely report back months from now.

 

[oribulator]

How long did your recovery take

 

[Jesus_ist_König]

What the fuck very good roi

 

[Shobek]

Just paid the deposit and will be getting this done next month. Ngl the last before/after makes me rethink getting too much supra fat lol. Most likely will ask for hooded eyes with a little bit of UEE show instead.

 

[AlucarddraculA121]

Also might consider aiming Chico level eye area with negative hooding now, mostly because of the harmony reasons. It might look less uncanny since some people can't really get O'pry/Barrett eye area without having deep set eyes + PCT.
In fact O'pry hooding also looks negative in some angles, so maybe outer part needed to be focused (filled) more and inner part less?

Did anyone get fat graft to supraorbitals during the procedure? Can it help it lowering the eyebrows (and whole block, it belongs to, with the other upper eyelid injected fat)? I already have high set eyebrows so I don't think it can become worse but extra weight on eyebrows could help lowering them maybe, for all the cases ok I remember someone did and the results were good

It can still be swelling that make it looks bloated though. Or both.

 

[Deleted member 139731]

Also might consider aiming Chico level eye area with negative hooding now, mostly because of the harmony reasons. It might look less uncanny since some people can't really get O'pry/Barrett eye area without having deep set eyes + NCT.
In fact O'pry hooding also looks negative in some angles, so maybe outer part needed to be focused (filled) more and inner part less?

Did anyone get fat graft to supraorbitals during the procedure? Can it help it lowering the eyebrows (and whole block, it belongs to, with the other upper eyelid injected fat)? I already have high set eyebrows so I don't think it can become worse but extra weight on eyebrows could help lowering them maybe, for all the cases

It can still be swelling that make it looks bloated though. Or both.

@Acquiescence LOL

 

[Acquiescence]

@Acquiescence LOL

@zemult Your morph lives on JFL

 

[zemult]

@zemult Your morph lives on JFL

I was just watching this thread and realized I recognized that photo jfl

 

[zemult]

Also, i'm not from Australia, so i'm doing it in my local area. Is there a reason why everyone is going to Thailand for this surgery? What should I pay attention to? From what i've read this is on of the least botched surgeries out their, but I don't want my face destroyed ofcourse.

There's no reason to go to one clinic over another for fat grafting, unless you're low IQ and overfill the infras to the brim without addressing a recessed infra bone.

Adding some data points since I just got this done at Rattinan with Dr. Game (not Tacheevi) 4 days ago. Filled the fuck out of the infras, a bit on zygos and temples, and some on supras.
Everyone so far is right about needing to be insistent on overfilling basically as much as possible if you look anything like the people who have posted pics so far.
During the procedure when they finally showed me the mirror to ask if I’m sarisfied, I unironically looked as botched if not more than bogdanoff due to the swelling. They said they already filled by 200% (4mL instead or 2mL in the undereye for example) so I basically just called it there besides some minor tweaks cuz it would be OVER if I looked even half that bad.
I’ve been healing from the swelling really fast. I got it Monday afternoon, it’s Friday morning, and I already look pretty much presentable swelling wise, besides the yellowish-green discoloration/bruising.
I would be pretty happy with this as my final result after my eyebrows/UEE lower like people have been saying happens, but it’s still probably over for me and I’ll need to go for a second round if it gets like >15% smaller
These pictures are kinda shit and angle frauded but at least I’ll post my ‘final’ results 2 months or so from now and try to be same angle/lighting as pre-op

Pre-op:
View attachment 4648951
2 days post-op:
View attachment 4648954
View attachment 4648955 This one mogs hard and I wish this was my final result but with a little more LEE and eyebrow dropping
4 days post-op (now):
View attachment 4648958

Mogs. I have a similar eye area so this is lifefuel

 

[osiriszenia]

I’m going to put minimal effort into this.
Before
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1 month after
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4 months after (today)
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View attachment 3483762
View attachment 3483764
(If I squint I can make my eyes look exactly like the 1 month mark which were essentially relaxed at the time. All photos are the same level of relaxed, probably 2-5% squint which is my natural state)
I had suboptimal lighting is all photos but i cbf finding better, in down light I have MOGGER lateral canthus crease.
Ignore the dry skin I’m hyper sensitive to anti biotics and the gook surgeon made me take them for 3 days post op, which in turn nuked my skin but ah well.

These photos mainly address my eyes, but my lips are maybe 10% fuller, but very disappointing.
Chin was utterly useless lol.
Shoulders were also utterly useless.

If you get this done, go to Rattinan Clinic in Bangkok and get your ass OVERFILLED to the max. That’s my only regret, being too conservative.

I’m gonna attempt to tag all the guys who have sent me a DM about my results over the last few months, I’m considerably busy 24/7 (stay tuned) so I can’t really reply much.

Idk what the max tag is but I’ll do 10 at a time

First, the groypers
@Dyorotic
@androgenic
@Clavicular
@dragomaxxer
@NorwoodAscender
@Orc
@Zeta
@LiterallyNightwing
@RoundHouse
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Lifefuel. insane results, pls check dm i need some advise about my eye area, i will send pics and can pay for the advise

 

[bjebb007]

Update 2 months post op, I used to be so insanely chopped wtf. I literally get disgusted when looking at old pics of myself I used to be such a fucking fat piece of shit subhuman

 

[kenibba]

mirin. first surgery im getting is an infraorbital fat grafting.

 

[shedontluv-U]

I've planned a consult for a possible fat grafting in the upper eyelid sulcus to fix my UEE.
On the left you see my ''current'' eye area (i'm already working on fixing my eyebrows). On the right you see someone who has a very similar eye (and face) shape, but with a better fat distribution. Should I ask for an eye area that is more like that of Chico?

Also, i'm not from Australia, so i'm doing it in my local area. Is there a reason why everyone is going to Thailand for this surgery? What should I pay attention to? From what i've read this is on of the least botched surgeries out their, but I don't want my face destroyed ofcourse.

The before photo lowkey look AI generated

 

[Henry Latham]

The before photo lowkey look AI generated

Lol. How? I just removed the background with some tool, but it did not change my face.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Update 2 months post op, I used to be so insanely chopped wtf. I literally get disgusted when looking at old pics of myself I used to be such a fucking fat piece of shit subhuman

Very good shit but not really the same angle

 

[vermicel]

Update 2 months post op

 

[bjebb007]

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Thanks, some people say I look like a serial killer now lol. I don't care tho I like it

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Thanks, some people say I look like a serial killer now lol. I don't care tho I like it

I showed my mom some B/A of this and she said the same lol

 

[Deleted member 139731]

I showed my mom some B/A of this and she said the same lol

bros giving inspirition to his mom for next surgeries

 

[bjebb007]

I showed my mom some B/A of this and she said the same lol

You are so cute haha

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

bros giving inspirition to his mom for next surgeries

Hahah no she doesn’t like it
She said she prefers my kind eyes and those eyes look too agressive/mean


She knows iam gettin it done tho

 

[Deleted member 139731]

Hahah no she doesn’t like it
She said she prefers my kind eyes and those eyes look too agressive/mean


She knows iam gettin it done tho

hows the bimax recovery going

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

hows the bimax recovery going

Very good. Still swelling around nose and upper jaw makes me look bad and monkey.
I will make a post after I do some dates with women. To also get the infield review lol.

 

[Deleted member 139731]

Very good. Still swelling around nose and upper jaw makes me look bad and monkey.
I will make a post after I do some dates with women. To also get the infield review lol.

yo shawty hows my upper jaw projection looking

 

[AlucarddraculA121]

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I feel like we can never get enough under-eye fat graft. Idk if the survivability is low there or we need infra implants + fat graft, but there are always dark circles. Great results though, best ROI procedure by far.

 

[frankramsey]

I’m going to put minimal effort into this.
Before
View attachment 3483754
1 month after
View attachment 3483755
4 months after (today)
View attachment 3483759
View attachment 3483762
View attachment 3483764
(If I squint I can make my eyes look exactly like the 1 month mark which were essentially relaxed at the time. All photos are the same level of relaxed, probably 2-5% squint which is my natural state)
I had suboptimal lighting is all photos but i cbf finding better, in down light I have MOGGER lateral canthus crease.
Ignore the dry skin I’m hyper sensitive to anti biotics and the gook surgeon made me take them for 3 days post op, which in turn nuked my skin but ah well.

These photos mainly address my eyes, but my lips are maybe 10% fuller, but very disappointing.
Chin was utterly useless lol.
Shoulders were also utterly useless.

If you get this done, go to Rattinan Clinic in Bangkok and get your ass OVERFILLED to the max. That’s my only regret, being too conservative.

I’m gonna attempt to tag all the guys who have sent me a DM about my results over the last few months, I’m considerably busy 24/7 (stay tuned) so I can’t really reply much.

Idk what the max tag is but I’ll do 10 at a time

First, the groypers
@Dyorotic
@androgenic
@Clavicular
@dragomaxxer
@NorwoodAscender
@Orc
@Zeta
@LiterallyNightwing
@RoundHouse
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Am thinking of doing fat grafting for lips, supraorbs and infraorbs.
Looking into Hawkes, Zamani and Shah-Desai.

What price did you pay for each and what doctor from Rattinan? I think they obfuscated the prices for these procedures on the website I can't find it.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

1 month update, as promised.

How is it looking now ?

 

[averageperson001]

I’m going to put minimal effort into this.
Before
View attachment 3483754
1 month after
View attachment 3483755
4 months after (today)
View attachment 3483759
View attachment 3483762
View attachment 3483764
(If I squint I can make my eyes look exactly like the 1 month mark which were essentially relaxed at the time. All photos are the same level of relaxed, probably 2-5% squint which is my natural state)
I had suboptimal lighting is all photos but i cbf finding better, in down light I have MOGGER lateral canthus crease.
Ignore the dry skin I’m hyper sensitive to anti biotics and the gook surgeon made me take them for 3 days post op, which in turn nuked my skin but ah well.

These photos mainly address my eyes, but my lips are maybe 10% fuller, but very disappointing.
Chin was utterly useless lol.
Shoulders were also utterly useless.

If you get this done, go to Rattinan Clinic in Bangkok and get your ass OVERFILLED to the max. That’s my only regret, being too conservative.

I’m gonna attempt to tag all the guys who have sent me a DM about my results over the last few months, I’m considerably busy 24/7 (stay tuned) so I can’t really reply much.

Idk what the max tag is but I’ll do 10 at a time

First, the groypers
@Dyorotic
@androgenic
@Clavicular
@dragomaxxer
@NorwoodAscender
@Orc
@Zeta
@LiterallyNightwing
@RoundHouse
————————————

how old are you, mirin will do this in the future

 

[kilgrave]

How is it looking now ?

Eyebrows have lowered more, just not all the way.

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Eyebrows have lowered more, just not all the way.

Nice. Good to hear.
Final results on surgeries can take lots of time. Hopping the best for ya

 

[Miniman333]

I got it done in Thailand I think I paid around 6k for fat graft+prp+nanofat and ptosis repair. The stitch was on my belly button. As bones dude said the recovery was pretty bad for me too, I looked very swollen in my face and eyebrows were very raised (you will look like shit the first couple of weeks, to the point where u don't want to go outside). I honestly think the ptosis repair did just as much as the fat grafting, as my UEE was horrible, it totally ruined my face.

I actually feel much more alert and not tired in my eyes as I used to always be, it really made a difference to my eye health. I don't think I have had a headache one time since the surgery, before I got it at least 1-2 times per week. I think fixing health issues should be nr1 priority when doing surgery.

On the train I noticed a lady stared at me, like really staring which almost never happened before. I honestly didn't know how to react and got a bit intimidated. She was gl but I still have anxiety and insecurity so I didn't approach her. I kind of regret not approaching, I need some kind of medicine to lower my inhibition and shyness

Weird how no one at my work commented about it, some just stared at me couple of seconds and didn't say anything haha. I don't know if its in my head or not but it feels like people treat me better.

Also I thought it looked weird with 0 UEE, now at least a small part of my upper eyelid is visible which I honestly prefer and is better for appeal. Also had mad swelling before esp around the temples and below eyebrows but now it looks more natural

did you get anything for your undereye

 

[WanderingBurro]

Adding some data points since I just got this done at Rattinan with Dr. Game (not Tacheevi) 4 days ago. Filled the fuck out of the infras, a bit on zygos and temples, and some on supras.
Everyone so far is right about needing to be insistent on overfilling basically as much as possible if you look anything like the people who have posted pics so far.
During the procedure when they finally showed me the mirror to ask if I’m sarisfied, I unironically looked as botched if not more than bogdanoff due to the swelling. They said they already filled by 200% (4mL instead or 2mL in the undereye for example) so I basically just called it there besides some minor tweaks cuz it would be OVER if I looked even half that bad.
I’ve been healing from the swelling really fast. I got it Monday afternoon, it’s Friday morning, and I already look pretty much presentable swelling wise, besides the yellowish-green discoloration/bruising.
I would be pretty happy with this as my final result after my eyebrows/UEE lower like people have been saying happens, but it’s still probably over for me and I’ll need to go for a second round if it gets like >15% smaller
These pictures are kinda shit and angle frauded but at least I’ll post my ‘final’ results 2 months or so from now and try to be same angle/lighting as pre-op

Pre-op:
View attachment 4648951
2 days post-op:
View attachment 4648954
View attachment 4648955 This one mogs hard and I wish this was my final result but with a little more LEE and eyebrow dropping
4 days post-op (now):
View attachment 4648958

How much did this cost to get? I heard they're raising their prices due to recent traffic but if it's still significantly cheaper to do there than in the US I might consider it. Also unsure how much I can convince a US surgeon to overfill as needed.

 

[Vajra-]

How much did this cost to get? I heard they're raising their prices due to recent traffic but if it's still significantly cheaper to do there than in the US I might consider it. Also unsure how much I can convince a US surgeon to overfill as needed.

It's 69k THB, or 59k if they're doing a promo sale. PRP (which I did) is an additional 20k THB.
For the lazycels, 89,000 THB = $2750

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

Adding some data points since I just got this done at Rattinan with Dr. Game (not Tacheevi) 4 days ago. Filled the fuck out of the infras, a bit on zygos and temples, and some on supras.
Everyone so far is right about needing to be insistent on overfilling basically as much as possible if you look anything like the people who have posted pics so far.
During the procedure when they finally showed me the mirror to ask if I’m sarisfied, I unironically looked as botched if not more than bogdanoff due to the swelling. They said they already filled by 200% (4mL instead or 2mL in the undereye for example) so I basically just called it there besides some minor tweaks cuz it would be OVER if I looked even half that bad.
I’ve been healing from the swelling really fast. I got it Monday afternoon, it’s Friday morning, and I already look pretty much presentable swelling wise, besides the yellowish-green discoloration/bruising.
I would be pretty happy with this as my final result after my eyebrows/UEE lower like people have been saying happens, but it’s still probably over for me and I’ll need to go for a second round if it gets like >15% smaller
These pictures are kinda shit and angle frauded but at least I’ll post my ‘final’ results 2 months or so from now and try to be same angle/lighting as pre-op

Pre-op:
View attachment 4648951
2 days post-op:
View attachment 4648954
View attachment 4648955 This one mogs hard and I wish this was my final result but with a little more LEE and eyebrow dropping
4 days post-op (now):
View attachment 4648958

How is it looking now broski ? Has the fat remained ?

 

[Vajra-]

How is it looking now broski ? Has the fat remained ?

A lot more died than I expected, especially zygos. I basically just look like a slightly better version of my “before”, which was basically my goal especially for symmetry. Not trying to create any halos without a base for them.
If any more of this dies I’ll be very tempted to do a touch up on the infras and maybe do some research again on if I should to overboard. I looked ridiculous in my post op pics but I kind of mogged when I took random selfies, whereas now I’m back to being insecure
I’m “satisfied” in the grand scheme of things, but not exactly for a price $3k when there are other hardmaxxes I want

5 weeks post-op (the angle should be very similar to the pre-op pic I posted):

As you can see my eyebrows have indeed dropped to basically pre op levels while the fat has also significantly reduced my UEE

And on that note, what’s the definitive answer for how long we have to wait before lifting again (not in caloric deficit)? No way it’s 6 fucking months