Foids are gigahorny for wide shoulders and high shoulder to waist ratio(especially nordic women will talk about that further)

[SomethingIsWrong]

This broad shoulder thing is 100 percent legit and users here underestimate how much it can ascend them in terms of attractiveness,
Btw this will only work if you are atleast taller than her and not deformed /ugly .

This user used shoulders pads which only adds 1.5 to 2.5 inches to bideltoid and he noticed a huge difference in how women treat him.

Wide shoulders awakens the primal instinct in them, this user experienced the same



and more btw..

Physical attractiveness: the influence of selected torso parameters - PubMed

Front-view line drawings of male and female physiques were rated for attractiveness. Both subject sexes rated female physiques with greater curvature as less attractive. Male subjects' ratings were unaffected by breast size while female subjects showed slight negative evaluation of large...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I really used to doubt this study but it's 100 percent legit .


And some more .
Iranian and Norwegian men preferred a less feminine waist-to-hip ratio compared to Polish and Russian men. Iranian women preferred a less asculine shoulder-to-hip ratio in men than women from Norway, Poland, and Russia

Cross-Cultural Preferences for Women’s Waist to Hip Ratio and Men’s Shoulder to Hip Ratio: Data From Iran, Norway, Poland, and Russia - Adaptive Human Behavior and Physiology

Objectives Body size and shape are sexually dimorphic in humans, with men being characterized with larger upper bodies, while women typically having broader pelvises. Such sexually dimorphic traits, quantified as shoulder to hip ratio (SHR) in men and waist to hip ratio (WHR) in women, serve as...

link.springer.com

For my fellow europeancels you should know women in Europe prefer high shoulder to waist ratio, (broad shoulders pill)



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[NZb6Air]

Water

 

[cc_7373]

Gotta be tall

 

[User28823]

wow, i really thought women were into framecels all this time !

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

water, don't be misled into thinking you should go into the gym and lift weights to bloat your shoulders because of this though
it's all about naturally wide shoulders, wide clavicles, you either have it or not

 

[cc_7373]

water, don't be misled into thinking you should go into the gym and lift weights to bloat your shoulders because of this though
it's all about naturally wide shoulders, wide clavicles, you either have it or not

Nah gym always helps add some width just doesnt compare to naturally wide shoulders and good anatomy

 

[alpslover]

This broad shoulder thing is 100 percent legit and users here underestimate how much it can ascend them in terms of attractiveness,
Btw this will only work if you are atleast taller than her and not deformed /ugly .

This user used shoulders pads which only adds 1.5 to 2.5 inches to bideltoid and he noticed a huge difference in how women treat him.
View attachment 3107091

Wide shoulders awakens the primal instinct in them, this user experienced the same View attachment 3107159



and more btw..

View attachment 3107093View attachment 3107094View attachment 3107138

Physical attractiveness: the influence of selected torso parameters - PubMed

Front-view line drawings of male and female physiques were rated for attractiveness. Both subject sexes rated female physiques with greater curvature as less attractive. Male subjects' ratings were unaffected by breast size while female subjects showed slight negative evaluation of large...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I really used to doubt this study but it's 100 percent legit .


And some more .
Iranian and Norwegian men preferred a less feminine waist-to-hip ratio compared to Polish and Russian men. Iranian women preferred a less asculine shoulder-to-hip ratio in men than women from Norway, Poland, and Russia

Cross-Cultural Preferences for Women’s Waist to Hip Ratio and Men’s Shoulder to Hip Ratio: Data From Iran, Norway, Poland, and Russia - Adaptive Human Behavior and Physiology

Objectives Body size and shape are sexually dimorphic in humans, with men being characterized with larger upper bodies, while women typically having broader pelvises. Such sexually dimorphic traits, quantified as shoulder to hip ratio (SHR) in men and waist to hip ratio (WHR) in women, serve as...

link.springer.com

For my fellow europeancels you should know women in Europe prefer high shoulder to waist ratio, (broad shoulders pill)



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No wide shoulders for my hips

 

[tombradylover]

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[SomethingIsWrong]

water, don't be misled into thinking you should go into the gym and lift weights to bloat your shoulders because of this though
it's all about naturally wide shoulders, wide clavicles, you either have it or not

If someone has average frame atleast he can definitely create a illusion of broad shoulders by training lats and delts and add 1.5 inches to bideltoid , but yh talking about true width you either have it or not
I'm underweight 60kg at 5'10 height lean body with no muscles, still I have a 20 inches bideltoid

 

[SomethingIsWrong]

wow, i really thought women were into framecels all this time

.

 

[User28823]

Shoulders is only what matters tbh , I have dogshit frame with 6.25 inches wrists and narrow ribcage but a 20 inches bideltoid at 60 kg and 5'10 height , irl many call me broad .

u are delusional and retarded.

 

[SomethingIsWrong]

u are delusional and retarded.

Explain this retard maybe ? Ofcourse ribcage size matters , but if you have wide shoulders yo can get away with that .

 

[User28823]

Explain this retard maybe ? Ofcourse ribcage size matters , but if you have wide shoulders yo can get away with that .

u cannot possibly claim to be a framecel and then also claim to look broad, that is not how these things work.
a framecel with muscle is still a telltale framecel, and looks retarded for that matter

 

[SomethingIsWrong]

u cannot possibly claim to be a framecel and then also claim to look broad, that is not how these things work.
a framecel with muscle is still a telltale framecel, and looks retarded for that matter

My English sucks a lot i could have worded it better , wrists and ribcage are part of frame too along with shoulders I have small wrists for my age 17 and narrow ribcage but irl many friends call me broad due to shoulders .

I don't claim to be a framecel lol

 

[User28823]

I don't claim to be a framecel lol

nice try deleting ur comment dumb framecel nigger

 

[SomethingIsWrong]

nice try deleting ur comment dumb framecel nigger

View attachment 3107346

My English sucks i could have worded it better that's why I deleted it .
I have small wrists and narrow ribcage which is part of frame too, but above average shoulders for my weight , 20 inches bideltoid 60kg .

 

[User28823]

20 inches bideltoid

never began

 

[enchanted_elixir]

"even my chad workers talked about how I looked way more "confident" "

JFL, he put on some shoulder pads and now he's now perceived as more confident

 

[SomaliMax]

This broad shoulder thing is 100 percent legit and users here underestimate how much it can ascend them in terms of attractiveness,
Btw this will only work if you are atleast taller than her and not deformed /ugly .

This user used shoulders pads which only adds 1.5 to 2.5 inches to bideltoid and he noticed a huge difference in how women treat him.
View attachment 3107091

Wide shoulders awakens the primal instinct in them, this user experienced the same View attachment 3107159



and more btw..

View attachment 3107093View attachment 3107094View attachment 3107138

Physical attractiveness: the influence of selected torso parameters - PubMed

Front-view line drawings of male and female physiques were rated for attractiveness. Both subject sexes rated female physiques with greater curvature as less attractive. Male subjects' ratings were unaffected by breast size while female subjects showed slight negative evaluation of large...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I really used to doubt this study but it's 100 percent legit .


And some more .
Iranian and Norwegian men preferred a less feminine waist-to-hip ratio compared to Polish and Russian men. Iranian women preferred a less asculine shoulder-to-hip ratio in men than women from Norway, Poland, and Russia

Cross-Cultural Preferences for Women’s Waist to Hip Ratio and Men’s Shoulder to Hip Ratio: Data From Iran, Norway, Poland, and Russia - Adaptive Human Behavior and Physiology

Objectives Body size and shape are sexually dimorphic in humans, with men being characterized with larger upper bodies, while women typically having broader pelvises. Such sexually dimorphic traits, quantified as shoulder to hip ratio (SHR) in men and waist to hip ratio (WHR) in women, serve as...

link.springer.com

For my fellow europeancels you should know women in Europe prefer high shoulder to waist ratio, (broad shoulders pill)



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I been preaching this for years on here. being born with wide clavicles and small waist + gymmaxxed is legit underrated in this sub. Thats another reason suits are a huge halo they give you broad shoulders.

 

[SomaliMax]

water, don't be misled into thinking you should go into the gym and lift weights to bloat your shoulders because of this though
it's all about naturally wide shoulders, wide clavicles, you either have it or not

true but gymcelled with average clavicles is still a huge halo. obvouisly wide clav + small waist is a killer combo, jeff seid for example. or even David laid

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Wide frame is to women what wide hips are to men

 

[SomethingIsWrong]

never began

How much can I add any idea ? Currently 17 year old 60 kg serious

 

[enchanted_elixir]

I been preaching this for years on here. being born with wide clavicles and small waist + gymmaxxed is legit underrated in this sub. Thats another reason suits are a huge halo they give you broad shoulders.

Explains a lot.

 

[edodalic29]

I’ll make an effort and train shoulders 2x a week at least

 

[SubhumanForever]

Wait....... Are you telling me.... That..... BROAD SHOULDERS = GOOD??????
WHAT THE FUCK???? THERE IS NO WAY THAT CAN BE RIGHT!!!

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Face is 90% of your physical attractiveness. Shoulders, height, dick, etc is mostly cope unless it's noticeably lacking

 

[SomethingIsWrong]

Face is 90% of your physical attractiveness. Shoulders, height, dick, etc is mostly cope unless it's noticeably lacking

You need to be clinically retarded to believe frame and height is mostly cope.
You are the one coping here and projecting your cope to others

 

[youraveragehtn]

Ye this thread is legit. I wore a shirt that made my shoulders prominent asf for some reason ( I already have pretty broad shoulders) and I got stared at a fuck ton by foids when I was in the mall. Even my hb pointed it out and thought I had paper stuffed into my shirt

 

[Daddy's Home]

If you don't have this shoulders in 2024, it's over..

 

[cc_7373]

No wide shoulders for my hips

Bonesmash you clavicles

 

[Deleted member 69862]

Learnt this a long ago, a good face is visible in a close setting while broad shoulders are visible from a football field away.

 

[arabcelxxx]

Lifefuel, for me

 

[p0lishsubhuman]

Ye this thread is legit. I wore a shirt that made my shoulders prominent asf for some reason ( I already have pretty broad shoulders) and I got stared at a fuck ton by foids when I was in the mall. Even my hb pointed it out and thought I had paper stuffed into my shirt

what kinda shirt it was

need to wideshouldersshirtmaxx tbh

 

[SomethingIsWrong]

what kinda shirt it was

need to wideshouldersshirtmaxx tbh

Compression shirt with shoulder pads mogs.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

yet another roidpill, over for my entire city once i start blasting

 

[p0lishsubhuman]

Compression shirt with shoulder pads mogs.

I wanna look NT tho

if I saw someone wearing a compression shirt Id assume hes coming back from training sports/gym

idk if its NT to wear it as everyday clothing

 

[Neverbeganlmaoo]

Can someone show a picture example of what frame looks like

 

[Detective]

mostly cope if you are not tall

 

[SomethingIsWrong]

mostly cope if you are not tall

It can halo manlets hard , if they are atleast 2 inches taller than the girl they approach ,
This guy is turbo manlet around 5'6

But he still pulls due to great frame and he is low mtn btw .

 

[ronald_2]

If only there was a way to reduce even just half an inch of hip width, it would be so great.

 

[JohnDoe]

It can halo manlets hard , if they are atleast 2 inches taller than the girl they approach ,
This guy is turbo manlet around 5'6

But he still pulls due to great frame and he is low mtn btw .

>alright love you
she ain't replying to his messages boyo

 

[Blue Carrots]

Does water help?

 

[superschizo]

water, don't be misled into thinking you should go into the gym and lift weights to bloat your shoulders because of this though
it's all about naturally wide shoulders, wide clavicles, you either have it or not

Better have bloated but wider shoulders than untrained with narrow shoulders

 

[ronald_2]

Thats why I'm getting lipo on my waist and hips next month.

 

[wasakaka]

Wide frame is to women what wide hips are to men

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This explains perfectly the mentality of the forum. How are you going to post some mtb with average hips for her age, and compare it to a dude that’s 0.001% in physique. And you really think they are equal. That why all of you are simps for ltb

 

[enchanted_elixir]

This explains perfectly the mentality of the forum. How are you going to post some mtb with average hips for her age, and compare it to a dude that’s 0.001% in physique. And you really think they are equal. That why all of you are simps for ltb

you don't even know what she looks like.

 

[wasakaka]

you don't even know what she looks like.

Maybe her face is good but he mogs her ratios

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Maybe her face is good but he mogs her ratios

these ratios might be equivalent to that dude's ratios

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

these ratios might be equivalent
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left smv mogs 99% of the forum jfl.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

left smv mogs 99% of the forum jfl.

And i am that 1%