Follow up to my original thread about British welfare single mom and immigrants with bulletproof stats

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Lets put this to rest since there was a lot of copemaxxing going on in the thread. I have compiled al the data from DWP, OBR, and Family Resources Survey and there's concrete evidence that backs this up with zero spin. I'll give you drink links and quotes latest releases up to June 2025 / April 2026 stats and all offical gov.uk links and direct quotes so you can verify every number yourself.


Total welfare bill is for ยฃ333.7 billion forecast for social security in 2025/26 (DWP + tax credits + Child Benefit + NI). Working-age + children spending alone. ยฃ145 billion.Disability/health benefits are the massive and growing chunk.



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Universal Credit. 7.9 million people on UC as of the stats available to us from last year June 2025. Households with children = 50% of all paying households. Single parent households are massively over represented: 54% of households hit by the now-scrapped two child limit were single-parent families (251,830 out of 469,780 in April 2025 data). Lone parents are only ~15% of all UK families but dominate the highcost, long-term caseload.



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And these were explicitly White British families as mentioned above


And as benefit cap proof. 68-69% of all capped households are single-parent families. They've consistently been the majority since 2020. Single parents = the core repeat customers for the uncapped, high-payout setups.


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Now here's the real kicker. 40% of two child limit affected households (189,480) had at least one health/disability claim (DLA, PIP, UC health element, or disabled child element). Specifically: 24% had a child on DLA (112,760 households) and 14% had a claimant on PIP. These stack extra UC elements, full housing top-ups, exemptions from the benefit cap, and Carer's Allowance (ยฃ83.30+/ week). One "special needs" claim turns a standard payout into a ยฃ40k-ยฃ60k+ tax-free annual package. This is the real Allowance jackpot

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Real world cash example. A found an article talking about this. A real world example. A single out-of-work mum
with 3 kids + disability claims (UC + housing+ PIP/DLA + Carer's) pulls ยฃ43,000/year.Add more kids + stacked claims and it hits ยฃ46k+ for a family with health benefits. In high-rent areas the housing top-up alone pushes it higher. This is legal, documented, and common


Immigrants for comparison. 83.6% of UC claimants are UK/Ireland/Right of Abode (99.8% UK citizens). Foreign nationals = ~16%. ยฃ10.6bn to unemployed migrant households over 18 months in 2025. A lot of money yes but spare change compared to native lone-parent + disability machine

There's no argument to be had. You can click on those links and verify every sentence that I typed out yourself. So if you are disagree with this and want to hold onto your narrative, you are essentially disagreeing with your own UK government official stats.
 
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i aspire to become this knowledgeable
 
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Tagging detractors @6ft4 @jaaba @Hess @lnceIs
 
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We are still on this?

Good that you posted stats, not like it's gonna matter to detractors though
 
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I think you'd have to prove the ROI of funding a family with a disabled adult is lower than that of accepting an immigrant family to the country
 
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I think you'd have to prove the ROI of funding a family with a disabled adult is lower than that of accepting an immigrant family to the country
That is a different story entirely. My original thread and this one is proof that British single moms put the most strain on the system
 
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That is a different story entirely. My original thread and this one is proof that British single moms put the most strain on the system
Solution: kill all single mums
 
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Lets put this to rest since there was a lot of copemaxxing going on. I have compiled al the data from DWP, OBR, and Family Resources Survey and there's concrete evidence that backs this up with zero spin. I'll give you drink links and quotes latest releases up to June 2025 / April 2026 stats and all offical gov.uk links and direct quotes so you can verify every number yourself.


Total welfare bill is for ยฃ333.7 billion forecast for social security in 2025/26 (DWP + tax credits + Child Benefit + NI). Working-age + children spending alone. ยฃ145 billion.Disability/health benefits are the massive and growing chunk.



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Universal Credit. 7.9 million people on UC as of the stats available to us from last year June 2025. Households with children = 50% of all paying households. Single parent households are massively over represented: 54% of households hit by the now-scrapped two child limit were single-parent families (251,830 out of 469,780 in April 2025 data). Lone parents are only ~15% of all UK families but dominate the highcost, long-term caseload.



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And these were explicitly White British families as mentioned above


And as benefit cap proof. 68-69% of all capped households are single-parent families. They've consistently been the majority since 2020. Single parents = the core repeat customers for the uncapped, high-payout setups.


View attachment 4946684


Now here's the real kicker. 40% of two child limit affected households (189,480) had at least one health/disability claim (DLA, PIP, UC health element, or disabled child element). Specifically: 24% had a child on DLA (112,760 households) and 14% had a claimant on PIP. These stack extra UC elements, full housing top-ups, exemptions from the benefit cap, and Carer's Allowance (ยฃ83.30+/ week). One "special needs" claim turns a standard payout into a ยฃ40k-ยฃ60k+ tax-free annual package. This is the real Allowance jackpot

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Real world cash example. A found an article talking about this. A real world example. A single out-of-work mum
with 3 kids + disability claims (UC + housing+ PIP/DLA + Carer's) pulls ยฃ43,000/year.Add more kids + stacked claims and it hits ยฃ46k+ for a family with health benefits. In high-rent areas the housing top-up alone pushes it higher. This is legal, documented, and common


Immigrants for comparison. 83.6% of UC claimants are UK/Ireland/Right of Abode (99.8% UK citizens). Foreign nationals = ~16%. ยฃ10.6bn to unemployed migrant households over 18 months in 2025. A lot of money yes but spare change compared to native lone-parent + disability machine

So if you are disagree with this, you are disagree with the UK government official stats.
Before reading, I'm hoping this is a brit hate thread. I can't wait to make fun of my gf rn since she has some brit dna
 
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This is shifting goal post tho
I was just commenting on the stat in isolation, considering asian migrants were educated and black migrants weren't I would be concerned if the asian migrants contributed less than the black migrants
 
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What kind of autismo map is this
Britain, Northern Ireland on the left, Up north is scotland where it's a bit snowy, around the middle is manchester, birmingham and liverpool etc ( the dangerous cities ) and down south is the nice places with the beaches
 
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Lets put this to rest since there was a lot of copemaxxing going on. I have compiled al the data from DWP, OBR, and Family Resources Survey and there's concrete evidence that backs this up with zero spin. I'll give you drink links and quotes latest releases up to June 2025 / April 2026 stats and all offical gov.uk links and direct quotes so you can verify every number yourself.


Total welfare bill is for ยฃ333.7 billion forecast for social security in 2025/26 (DWP + tax credits + Child Benefit + NI). Working-age + children spending alone. ยฃ145 billion.Disability/health benefits are the massive and growing chunk.



View attachment 4946657View attachment 4946659


Universal Credit. 7.9 million people on UC as of the stats available to us from last year June 2025. Households with children = 50% of all paying households. Single parent households are massively over represented: 54% of households hit by the now-scrapped two child limit were single-parent families (251,830 out of 469,780 in April 2025 data). Lone parents are only ~15% of all UK families but dominate the highcost, long-term caseload.



View attachment 4946668

And these were explicitly White British families as mentioned above


And as benefit cap proof. 68-69% of all capped households are single-parent families. They've consistently been the majority since 2020. Single parents = the core repeat customers for the uncapped, high-payout setups.


View attachment 4946684


Now here's the real kicker. 40% of two child limit affected households (189,480) had at least one health/disability claim (DLA, PIP, UC health element, or disabled child element). Specifically: 24% had a child on DLA (112,760 households) and 14% had a claimant on PIP. These stack extra UC elements, full housing top-ups, exemptions from the benefit cap, and Carer's Allowance (ยฃ83.30+/ week). One "special needs" claim turns a standard payout into a ยฃ40k-ยฃ60k+ tax-free annual package. This is the real Allowance jackpot

View attachment 4946687




Real world cash example. A found an article talking about this. A real world example. A single out-of-work mum
with 3 kids + disability claims (UC + housing+ PIP/DLA + Carer's) pulls ยฃ43,000/year.Add more kids + stacked claims and it hits ยฃ46k+ for a family with health benefits. In high-rent areas the housing top-up alone pushes it higher. This is legal, documented, and common


Immigrants for comparison. 83.6% of UC claimants are UK/Ireland/Right of Abode (99.8% UK citizens). Foreign nationals = ~16%. ยฃ10.6bn to unemployed migrant households over 18 months in 2025. A lot of money yes but spare change compared to native lone-parent + disability machine

There's no argument to be had. You can click on those links and verify every sentence that I typed out yourself. So if you are disagree with this and want to hold onto your narrative, you are essentially disagreeing with your own UK government official stats.
Well well well whites taking a loss again

@goku21 @HtnceI if brit was majority non white it would be a greater country

Not surprising of lone white British moms to take advantage of a system for helping people who really need it:lul:
 
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Well well well whites taking a loss again

@goku21 @HtnceI if brit was majority non white it would be a greater country

Not surprising of lone white British moms to take advantage of a system for helping people who really need it:lul:
Forgot to mention the mums have immigrant kids btw. They get cummed in and dipped
 
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Can I get like a summary
I'm really lazy
 
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Can I get like a summary
I'm really lazy
White British single moms are the biggest burden on social welfare in the UK. Not immigrant families like people want to believe.
 
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White British single moms are the biggest burden on social welfare in the UK. Not immigrant families like people want to believe.
Honestly, its kind of a good thing that more of the social welfare goes to the UK's own people, rather than immigrants. I feel like that's how it should be in every country, its like putting your people first.
Anyways Its good to clear up the misconceptions about social welfare, I actually thought it was immigrants, but the data says disproves that. Good to know.
 
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Honestly, its kind of a good thing that more of the social welfare goes to the UK's own people, rather than immigrants. I feel like that's how it should be in every country, its like putting your people first.
Anyways Its good to clear up the misconceptions about social welfare, I actually thought it was immigrants, but the data says disproves that. Good to know.
Not really, it has promoted an unhealthy welfare state culture where they have to import workers to keep a functioning state, workers who want something more than just the shekels to send back home
 
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Not really, it has promoted an unhealthy welfare state culture where they have to import workers to keep a functioning state, workers who want something more than just the shekels to send back home
Good point.
I wish the UK would limit immigration, and just be less dependent on it overall.
 
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Good point.
I wish the UK would limit immigration, and just be less dependent on it overall.
you have Margret thatcher and her retarded version of deindustrialisation to blame
 
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5:09 in the morning so take my bump
 
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Ich spreche sowohl englisch als auch deutsch.
I took german for a year and found it too hard ๐Ÿ˜ญ I have gotten myself into a hole I cannot manoeuvre out of
 
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Doch, ich habe diese Redewendung aber noch nie gehรถrt.
I have been yankified by interacting with yankees everyday
 
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I took german for a year and found it too hard ๐Ÿ˜ญ I have gotten myself into a hole I cannot manoeuvre out of
I have been studying german for years at this point
 
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I have been studying german for years at this point
I really tried to learn it but I just couldn't
oh well never getting that B1 german to geomax to austria, maybe I can be a NEET for a girl there instead
 
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I really tried to learn it but I just couldn't
oh well never getting that B1 german to geomax to austria, maybe I can be a NEET for a girl there instead
My writing and reading is b2 level easily. I can speak well too but I have a strong accent from my native language. Also moving from b2 to c1 is very difficult without living in Germany. It's like hard cap for foreign languages unless you actually live there you won't make progress what you know won't correspond to what you speak because your already well above conversational level at b2. It also exists for English but anglo culture is dominant so you don't feel it as much.
 
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I'm sorry, but I have to

:lul: I have a lot of respect for Germans though, I like the culture and meticulous nature of the country a lot.

Austria is like redneck Germany though
 
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My writing and reading is b2 level easily. I can speak well too but I have a strong accent from my native language. Also moving from b2 to c1 is very difficult without living in Germany. It's like hard cap for foreign languages unless you actually live there you won't make progress what you know won't correspond to what you speak because your already well above conversational level at b2. It also exists for English but anglo culture is dominant so you don't feel it as much.
Yeah B2 is minimum for most jobs IIRC so it makes sense that the leap is difficult. That being said I still know migrants who havenโ€™t bothered to get B2 level German while living there for over a decade.
 
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dude do you enjoy writing these essays lol when i was in college i hated having to write this much
 
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Good point.
I wish the UK would limit immigration, and just be less dependent on it overall.
yeah no brah

another million by boat by next thursday I hope
 
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