Fuck it genioplasty guide + lots of examples

[coxel]

INTRODUCTION
Genioplasty is a surgery that has the potential to ascend the side profile, and to a lesser extent frontal. The surgery involves cutting the chin bone (mandible) and moving it forward/backward and/or up/down to achieve the desired shape and projection. Genioplasty can be performed alone or in combination with other facial surgeries at the same time, such as rhinoplasty or jaw surgery. The procedure should be done under general anesthesia (here is a favelatard talking about getting it under local and it is as horryfying as it sounds) and requires minimum one week of recovery time.

FIRSTLY GTFO WITH MUH FILLER AND CHIN IMPLANTS THEY ARE DOGSHIT

• large bone resorption with implants is INEVITABLE!!!! this is all you should need to know. some people have lost teeth, 10mm+ of bone etc. from implants
  • they are fucking retarded and should never be encouraged, only jew surgeons recommend this because they are money hungry and do not care about their patients
• filler is gay and if you seriously think you can go the rest of your life faking bone you are a pussy and stupid, not going to elab further

SHOWCASE OF POSITIVE GENIOPLASTY RESULTS

8mm genio + rhinoplasty from an ex forum member, they ascended to normie then left this shithole

10mm genio only

user on this site got two genios, first was 10mm forward, not sure about downward. second was 5mm forward, 5mm downward, and 4mm of widening + jaw angle implants

12mm horizontal

6mm horizontal (they needed at least 10mm ngl)

12mm horizontal

9mm horizontal, was a user on this site but i couldnt find the thread

10mm genio + lipo

5mm genio + rhinoplasty (note that smaller movements on girls is usually all that's needed, 5mm is rarely enough for guys)

yes no shit she needed more than just the 10mm genio she got but it's still an improvement, could have been a really good ascension if it was accompanied with bimax

10mm horizontal 2mm vertical down, again another girl who needed bimax but still improved

note: you may have realised that the best results are where their chin projection was extended to roughly align with the lips (if they are downgrown or have a recessed maxilla ignore), simply draw a line from the nose downards and as long as the side profile posture isnt fucked you can get a rough idea if the chin projection is where it should be

GENIO WITH JAW SURGERY
For the truly recessed, jaw surgery when accompanied by genioplasty can ascend sooo fucking much

10mm genio, 10mm left lower jaw/7mm right and had 6 or 7mm movement upper

lower jaw 5mm + 7mm genioplasty, this photo is only 10 days post op as well

30 mm lower and 4-6 (roughly) mm upper. Lefort 1 and BSSO for DJS, the genio was approximately 5-6mm

12mm bsso (or more) and a large genioplasty + CCW rotation and maxilla impaction

TYPES OF GENIOPLASTY

• sliding genioplasty (the king and most common): moves the chin forward without changing its height using a horizontal cut.
• wing genioplasty: widens the chin by making a horizontal cut and placing a graft.
• stair step genioplasty: advances and lengthens the chin using step-like cuts in the bone.
• box genioplasty: simultaneously advances and lengthens the chin using a rectangular cut.
• vertical reduction genioplasty: shortens the chin height by removing a wedge of bone.
• vertical augmentation genioplasty: lengthens the chin by inserting a graft or implant.
• t-shaped genioplasty: combines chin advancement, lengthening, and widening using a t-shaped cut.
• asymmetric genioplasty: corrects chin asymmetry by making different bone cuts on each side.
• reduction genioplasty: reduces chin size by removing a portion of the chin bone.

BENEFITS OF GENIO

• incel to chad chin projection
• change the shape of your chin
• tighten the submental
• improve lip support
• extending the chin pulls up the geniohyiod which raises the hyoid
• stretch the skin on your face, which can make cheekbones more prominent and increase hollowing
• slightly increase airway
• improve how your face will age because of the extra bone
• correct minor chin asymmetry if there is one

IS GENIO RIGHT FOR ME?

IF you are not massively recessed and have no medical issues associated with recession (eg. fucked bite or small airway determined via CT scan) and simply lack some chin projection then it can be an amazing surgery. However, if you are worried you might need more than just a genioplasty please consult with a maxillofacial surgeon and get multiple professional opinions.

SOMEWHAT COMMON NEGATIVES OF GENIOPLASTY

• some permanent loss of nerves can occur in the chin, lip, or lower teeth area
• bottom lip rolling in from the incision being cut too high or the stich being too tight
• mentalis muscle dysfunction if it is not put back together properly
• not extending mandible far enough by doing a conservative movement

All of these downsides can be solved by simply going to a good surgeon and doing your research. If you actually need DJS don't be a retard and just get genio.

PLANNING YOUR SURGERY

• see if insurance can cover some or all of your surgery
• find the right surgeon, some good questions to ask are: do they perform this regularly? are they able to do large movements? are they aesthetically knowledgeable?
• do more research than just this guide, plenty of posts all over the internet about peoples experiences
• prepare any scans you can prior to surgery, lateral cephalometric xray is a good starting point and easy to get

RECOVERING FROM GENIO

water tier stuff you will hear from most surgeons:

• prepare to be unable to talk much for a few days
• take minimum one week off work
• sleep as much as you can, on your back for minimum first 3 nights
• only clear liquids for first 24hrs
• protein shakes etc. after 24hrs for at least 3-4 days normally with as many calories as you can and after that start introducing soft foods
• walk as much as you can to reduce swelling
• mouth wash after every meal to keep incision from getting infected
• no heavy lifting for at least 3 weeks, most surgeons recommend 6 weeks
• by end of week 2 most people (excluding family and those who see you regularly) wont notice you have had surgery
• by weeks 3-4 you can start to have an idea of what the final result will be

lesser known methods of improving recovery:

• bpc 157 0.5-1mg/day for the first 2-3 weeks post surgery increase recovery time and improve likelihood of regaining all your nerves, this will drastically cut down recovery time. I would use this for any facial surgery tbh.
• topical vitamin k cream for bruising
• high dose calcium, vitamin k2 and vitamin d3 for bone healing

Hope this was informative; we need more surgery guides on this site.

 

[klimo]

good

 

[Deleted member 71265]

thought this was gonna be a diy tutorial

 

[5.5psl]

nice thread
bump

 

[Deleted member 65576]

good thread

 

[rolloftape]

thought this was gonna be a diy tutorial

Diy buccal fat removal with scalpel at home

 

[chincel11]

View attachment 2960569

INTRODUCTION
Genioplasty is a surgery that has the potential to ascend the side profile, and to a lesser extent frontal. The surgery involves cutting the chin bone (mandible) and moving it forward/backward and/or up/down to achieve the desired shape and projection. Genioplasty can be performed alone or in combination with other facial surgeries at the same time, such as rhinoplasty or jaw surgery. The procedure should be done under general anesthesia (here is a favelatard talking about getting it under local and it is as horryfying as it sounds) and requires minimum one week of recovery time.

FIRSTLY GTFO WITH MUH FILLER AND CHIN IMPLANTS THEY ARE DOGSHIT

• large bone resorption with implants is INEVITABLE!!!! this is all you should need to know. some people have lost teeth, 10mm+ of bone etc. from implants
  • they are fucking retarded and should never be encouraged, only jew surgeons recommend this because they are money hungry and do not care about their patients
• filler is gay and if you seriously think you can go the rest of your life faking bone you are a pussy and stupid, not going to elab further

SHOWCASE OF POSITIVE GENIOPLASTY RESULTS
View attachment 2960501
8mm genio + rhinoplasty from an ex forum member, they ascended to normie then left this shithole

View attachment 2960521
10mm genio only

View attachment 2960532
user on this site got two genios, first was 10mm forward, not sure about downward. second was 5mm forward, 5mm downward, and 4mm of widening + jaw angle implants

View attachment 2960533
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960529
6mm horizontal (they needed at least 10mm ngl)

View attachment 2960535
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960561
9mm horizontal, was a user on this site but i couldnt find the thread

View attachment 2960523
10mm genio + lipo

View attachment 2960505
5mm genio + rhinoplasty (note that smaller movements on girls is usually all that's needed, 5mm is rarely enough for guys)

View attachment 2960512
yes no shit she needed more than just the 10mm genio she got but it's still an improvement, could have been a really good ascension if it was accompanied with bimax

View attachment 2960527
10mm horizontal 2mm vertical down, again another girl who needed bimax but still improved

note: you may have realised that the best results are where their chin projection was extended to roughly align with the lips (if they are downgrown or have a recessed maxilla ignore), simply draw a line from the nose downards and as long as the side profile posture isnt fucked you can get a rough idea if the chin projection is where it should be

GENIO WITH JAW SURGERY
For the truly recessed, jaw surgery when accompanied by genioplasty can ascend sooo fucking much

View attachment 2960537
10mm genio, 10mm left lower jaw/7mm right and had 6 or 7mm movement upper

View attachment 2960540
lower jaw 5mm + 7mm genioplasty, this photo is only 10 days post op as well

View attachment 2960542
30 mm lower and 4-6 (roughly) mm upper. Lefort 1 and BSSO for DJS, the genio was approximately 5-6mm

View attachment 2960549
12mm bsso (or more) and a large genioplasty + CCW rotation and maxilla impaction

TYPES OF GENIOPLASTY

• sliding genioplasty (the king and most common): moves the chin forward without changing its height using a horizontal cut.
• wing genioplasty: widens the chin by making a horizontal cut and placing a graft.
• stair step genioplasty: advances and lengthens the chin using step-like cuts in the bone.
• box genioplasty: simultaneously advances and lengthens the chin using a rectangular cut.
• vertical reduction genioplasty: shortens the chin height by removing a wedge of bone.
• vertical augmentation genioplasty: lengthens the chin by inserting a graft or implant.
• t-shaped genioplasty: combines chin advancement, lengthening, and widening using a t-shaped cut.
• asymmetric genioplasty: corrects chin asymmetry by making different bone cuts on each side.
• reduction genioplasty: reduces chin size by removing a portion of the chin bone.

BENEFITS OF GENIO

• incel to chad chin projection
• change the shape of your chin
• tighten the submental
• improve lip support
• extending the chin pulls up the geniohyiod which raises the hyoid
• stretch the skin on your face, which can make cheekbones more prominent and increase hollowing
• slightly increase airway
• improve how your face will age because of the extra bone
• correct minor chin asymmetry if there is one

IS GENIO RIGHT FOR ME?

IF you are not massively recessed and have no medical issues associated with recession (eg. fucked bite or small airway determined via CT scan) and simply lack some chin projection then it can be an amazing surgery. However, if you are worried you might need more than just a genioplasty please consult with a maxillofacial surgeon and get multiple professional opinions.

SOMEWHAT COMMON NEGATIVES OF GENIOPLASTY

• some permanent loss of nerves can occur in the chin, lip, or lower teeth area
• bottom lip rolling in from the incision being cut too high or the stich being too tight
• mentalis muscle dysfunction if it is not put back together properly
• not extending mandible far enough by doing a conservative movement

All of these downsides can be solved by simply going to a good surgeon and doing your research. If you actually need DJS don't be a retard and just get genio.

PLANNING YOUR SURGERY

• see if insurance can cover some or all of your surgery
• find the right surgeon, some good questions to ask are: do they perform this regularly? are they able to do large movements? are they aesthetically knowledgeable?
• do more research than just this guide, plenty of posts all over the internet about peoples experiences
• prepare any scans you can prior to surgery, lateral cephalometric xray is a good starting point and easy to get

RECOVERING FROM GENIO
View attachment 2960604

water tier stuff you will hear from most surgeons:

• prepare to be unable to talk much for a few days
• take minimum one week off work
• sleep as much as you can, on your back for minimum first 3 nights
• only clear liquids for first 24hrs
• protein shakes etc. after 24hrs for at least 3-4 days normally with as many calories as you can and after that start introducing soft foods
• walk as much as you can to reduce swelling
• mouth wash after every meal to keep incision from getting infected
• no heavy lifting for at least 3 weeks, most surgeons recommend 6 weeks
• by end of week 2 most people (excluding family and those who see you regularly) wont notice you have had surgery
• by weeks 3-4 you can start to have an idea of what the final result will be

lesser known methods of improving recovery:

• bpc 157 0.5-1mg/day for the first 2-3 weeks post surgery increase recovery time and improve likelihood of regaining all your nerves, this will drastically cut down recovery time. I would use this for any facial surgery tbh.
• topical vitamin k cream for bruising
• high dose calcium, vitamin k2 and vitamin d3 for bone healing

Hope this was informative; we need more surgery guides on this site.

Cost?

 

[coxel]

Cost?

It really depends on the location you are in. Eg. some people in the examples got it for like 4k USD while others paid 10k+ I believe. Surgeries should not be something people cheap out on, which is why I didn't discuss it.

 

[INB]

View attachment 2960569

INTRODUCTION
Genioplasty is a surgery that has the potential to ascend the side profile, and to a lesser extent frontal. The surgery involves cutting the chin bone (mandible) and moving it forward/backward and/or up/down to achieve the desired shape and projection. Genioplasty can be performed alone or in combination with other facial surgeries at the same time, such as rhinoplasty or jaw surgery. The procedure should be done under general anesthesia (here is a favelatard talking about getting it under local and it is as horryfying as it sounds) and requires minimum one week of recovery time.

FIRSTLY GTFO WITH MUH FILLER AND CHIN IMPLANTS THEY ARE DOGSHIT

• large bone resorption with implants is INEVITABLE!!!! this is all you should need to know. some people have lost teeth, 10mm+ of bone etc. from implants
  • they are fucking retarded and should never be encouraged, only jew surgeons recommend this because they are money hungry and do not care about their patients
• filler is gay and if you seriously think you can go the rest of your life faking bone you are a pussy and stupid, not going to elab further

SHOWCASE OF POSITIVE GENIOPLASTY RESULTS
View attachment 2960501
8mm genio + rhinoplasty from an ex forum member, they ascended to normie then left this shithole

View attachment 2960521
10mm genio only

View attachment 2960532
user on this site got two genios, first was 10mm forward, not sure about downward. second was 5mm forward, 5mm downward, and 4mm of widening + jaw angle implants

View attachment 2960533
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960529
6mm horizontal (they needed at least 10mm ngl)

View attachment 2960535
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960561
9mm horizontal, was a user on this site but i couldnt find the thread

View attachment 2960523
10mm genio + lipo

View attachment 2960505
5mm genio + rhinoplasty (note that smaller movements on girls is usually all that's needed, 5mm is rarely enough for guys)

View attachment 2960512
yes no shit she needed more than just the 10mm genio she got but it's still an improvement, could have been a really good ascension if it was accompanied with bimax

View attachment 2960527
10mm horizontal 2mm vertical down, again another girl who needed bimax but still improved

note: you may have realised that the best results are where their chin projection was extended to roughly align with the lips (if they are downgrown or have a recessed maxilla ignore), simply draw a line from the nose downards and as long as the side profile posture isnt fucked you can get a rough idea if the chin projection is where it should be

GENIO WITH JAW SURGERY
For the truly recessed, jaw surgery when accompanied by genioplasty can ascend sooo fucking much

View attachment 2960537
10mm genio, 10mm left lower jaw/7mm right and had 6 or 7mm movement upper

View attachment 2960540
lower jaw 5mm + 7mm genioplasty, this photo is only 10 days post op as well

View attachment 2960542
30 mm lower and 4-6 (roughly) mm upper. Lefort 1 and BSSO for DJS, the genio was approximately 5-6mm

View attachment 2960549
12mm bsso (or more) and a large genioplasty + CCW rotation and maxilla impaction

TYPES OF GENIOPLASTY

• sliding genioplasty (the king and most common): moves the chin forward without changing its height using a horizontal cut.
• wing genioplasty: widens the chin by making a horizontal cut and placing a graft.
• stair step genioplasty: advances and lengthens the chin using step-like cuts in the bone.
• box genioplasty: simultaneously advances and lengthens the chin using a rectangular cut.
• vertical reduction genioplasty: shortens the chin height by removing a wedge of bone.
• vertical augmentation genioplasty: lengthens the chin by inserting a graft or implant.
• t-shaped genioplasty: combines chin advancement, lengthening, and widening using a t-shaped cut.
• asymmetric genioplasty: corrects chin asymmetry by making different bone cuts on each side.
• reduction genioplasty: reduces chin size by removing a portion of the chin bone.

BENEFITS OF GENIO

• incel to chad chin projection
• change the shape of your chin
• tighten the submental
• improve lip support
• extending the chin pulls up the geniohyiod which raises the hyoid
• stretch the skin on your face, which can make cheekbones more prominent and increase hollowing
• slightly increase airway
• improve how your face will age because of the extra bone
• correct minor chin asymmetry if there is one

IS GENIO RIGHT FOR ME?

IF you are not massively recessed and have no medical issues associated with recession (eg. fucked bite or small airway determined via CT scan) and simply lack some chin projection then it can be an amazing surgery. However, if you are worried you might need more than just a genioplasty please consult with a maxillofacial surgeon and get multiple professional opinions.

SOMEWHAT COMMON NEGATIVES OF GENIOPLASTY

• some permanent loss of nerves can occur in the chin, lip, or lower teeth area
• bottom lip rolling in from the incision being cut too high or the stich being too tight
• mentalis muscle dysfunction if it is not put back together properly
• not extending mandible far enough by doing a conservative movement

All of these downsides can be solved by simply going to a good surgeon and doing your research. If you actually need DJS don't be a retard and just get genio.

PLANNING YOUR SURGERY

• see if insurance can cover some or all of your surgery
• find the right surgeon, some good questions to ask are: do they perform this regularly? are they able to do large movements? are they aesthetically knowledgeable?
• do more research than just this guide, plenty of posts all over the internet about peoples experiences
• prepare any scans you can prior to surgery, lateral cephalometric xray is a good starting point and easy to get

RECOVERING FROM GENIO
View attachment 2960604

water tier stuff you will hear from most surgeons:

• prepare to be unable to talk much for a few days
• take minimum one week off work
• sleep as much as you can, on your back for minimum first 3 nights
• only clear liquids for first 24hrs
• protein shakes etc. after 24hrs for at least 3-4 days normally with as many calories as you can and after that start introducing soft foods
• walk as much as you can to reduce swelling
• mouth wash after every meal to keep incision from getting infected
• no heavy lifting for at least 3 weeks, most surgeons recommend 6 weeks
• by end of week 2 most people (excluding family and those who see you regularly) wont notice you have had surgery
• by weeks 3-4 you can start to have an idea of what the final result will be

lesser known methods of improving recovery:

• bpc 157 0.5-1mg/day for the first 2-3 weeks post surgery increase recovery time and improve likelihood of regaining all your nerves, this will drastically cut down recovery time. I would use this for any facial surgery tbh.
• topical vitamin k cream for bruising
• high dose calcium, vitamin k2 and vitamin d3 for bone healing

Hope this was informative; we need more surgery guides on this site.

Fucking finally we a got a genio guide, good thread buddy boyo

 

[bradpittshairline]

best surgery for mild recession, i dont think bimax is worth it for aesthetics alone too much risk and cost + unpredictable result

 

[Teddo23]

What's in your opinion best surgery if I just want to make my chin taller

 

[Black_Cloud]

Great guide, genio can also be performed with countless number of surgeries as well. Great combo with buccal fat removal and rhinoplasty .

 

[coxel]

Great guide, genio can also be performed with countless number of surgeries as well. Great combo with buccal fat removal and rhinoplasty .

do you have any examples of this specific combo?

 

[Deleted member 69862]

View attachment 2960569

INTRODUCTION
Genioplasty is a surgery that has the potential to ascend the side profile, and to a lesser extent frontal. The surgery involves cutting the chin bone (mandible) and moving it forward/backward and/or up/down to achieve the desired shape and projection. Genioplasty can be performed alone or in combination with other facial surgeries at the same time, such as rhinoplasty or jaw surgery. The procedure should be done under general anesthesia (here is a favelatard talking about getting it under local and it is as horryfying as it sounds) and requires minimum one week of recovery time.

FIRSTLY GTFO WITH MUH FILLER AND CHIN IMPLANTS THEY ARE DOGSHIT

• large bone resorption with implants is INEVITABLE!!!! this is all you should need to know. some people have lost teeth, 10mm+ of bone etc. from implants
  • they are fucking retarded and should never be encouraged, only jew surgeons recommend this because they are money hungry and do not care about their patients
• filler is gay and if you seriously think you can go the rest of your life faking bone you are a pussy and stupid, not going to elab further

SHOWCASE OF POSITIVE GENIOPLASTY RESULTS
View attachment 2960501
8mm genio + rhinoplasty from an ex forum member, they ascended to normie then left this shithole

View attachment 2960521
10mm genio only

View attachment 2960532
user on this site got two genios, first was 10mm forward, not sure about downward. second was 5mm forward, 5mm downward, and 4mm of widening + jaw angle implants

View attachment 2960533
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960529
6mm horizontal (they needed at least 10mm ngl)

View attachment 2960535
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960561
9mm horizontal, was a user on this site but i couldnt find the thread

View attachment 2960523
10mm genio + lipo

View attachment 2960505
5mm genio + rhinoplasty (note that smaller movements on girls is usually all that's needed, 5mm is rarely enough for guys)

View attachment 2960512
yes no shit she needed more than just the 10mm genio she got but it's still an improvement, could have been a really good ascension if it was accompanied with bimax

View attachment 2960527
10mm horizontal 2mm vertical down, again another girl who needed bimax but still improved

note: you may have realised that the best results are where their chin projection was extended to roughly align with the lips (if they are downgrown or have a recessed maxilla ignore), simply draw a line from the nose downards and as long as the side profile posture isnt fucked you can get a rough idea if the chin projection is where it should be

GENIO WITH JAW SURGERY
For the truly recessed, jaw surgery when accompanied by genioplasty can ascend sooo fucking much

View attachment 2960537
10mm genio, 10mm left lower jaw/7mm right and had 6 or 7mm movement upper

View attachment 2960540
lower jaw 5mm + 7mm genioplasty, this photo is only 10 days post op as well

View attachment 2960542
30 mm lower and 4-6 (roughly) mm upper. Lefort 1 and BSSO for DJS, the genio was approximately 5-6mm

View attachment 2960549
12mm bsso (or more) and a large genioplasty + CCW rotation and maxilla impaction

TYPES OF GENIOPLASTY

• sliding genioplasty (the king and most common): moves the chin forward without changing its height using a horizontal cut.
• wing genioplasty: widens the chin by making a horizontal cut and placing a graft.
• stair step genioplasty: advances and lengthens the chin using step-like cuts in the bone.
• box genioplasty: simultaneously advances and lengthens the chin using a rectangular cut.
• vertical reduction genioplasty: shortens the chin height by removing a wedge of bone.
• vertical augmentation genioplasty: lengthens the chin by inserting a graft or implant.
• t-shaped genioplasty: combines chin advancement, lengthening, and widening using a t-shaped cut.
• asymmetric genioplasty: corrects chin asymmetry by making different bone cuts on each side.
• reduction genioplasty: reduces chin size by removing a portion of the chin bone.

BENEFITS OF GENIO

• incel to chad chin projection
• change the shape of your chin
• tighten the submental
• improve lip support
• extending the chin pulls up the geniohyiod which raises the hyoid
• stretch the skin on your face, which can make cheekbones more prominent and increase hollowing
• slightly increase airway
• improve how your face will age because of the extra bone
• correct minor chin asymmetry if there is one

IS GENIO RIGHT FOR ME?

IF you are not massively recessed and have no medical issues associated with recession (eg. fucked bite or small airway determined via CT scan) and simply lack some chin projection then it can be an amazing surgery. However, if you are worried you might need more than just a genioplasty please consult with a maxillofacial surgeon and get multiple professional opinions.

SOMEWHAT COMMON NEGATIVES OF GENIOPLASTY

• some permanent loss of nerves can occur in the chin, lip, or lower teeth area
• bottom lip rolling in from the incision being cut too high or the stich being too tight
• mentalis muscle dysfunction if it is not put back together properly
• not extending mandible far enough by doing a conservative movement

All of these downsides can be solved by simply going to a good surgeon and doing your research. If you actually need DJS don't be a retard and just get genio.

PLANNING YOUR SURGERY

• see if insurance can cover some or all of your surgery
• find the right surgeon, some good questions to ask are: do they perform this regularly? are they able to do large movements? are they aesthetically knowledgeable?
• do more research than just this guide, plenty of posts all over the internet about peoples experiences
• prepare any scans you can prior to surgery, lateral cephalometric xray is a good starting point and easy to get

RECOVERING FROM GENIO
View attachment 2960604

water tier stuff you will hear from most surgeons:

• prepare to be unable to talk much for a few days
• take minimum one week off work
• sleep as much as you can, on your back for minimum first 3 nights
• only clear liquids for first 24hrs
• protein shakes etc. after 24hrs for at least 3-4 days normally with as many calories as you can and after that start introducing soft foods
• walk as much as you can to reduce swelling
• mouth wash after every meal to keep incision from getting infected
• no heavy lifting for at least 3 weeks, most surgeons recommend 6 weeks
• by end of week 2 most people (excluding family and those who see you regularly) wont notice you have had surgery
• by weeks 3-4 you can start to have an idea of what the final result will be

lesser known methods of improving recovery:

• bpc 157 0.5-1mg/day for the first 2-3 weeks post surgery increase recovery time and improve likelihood of regaining all your nerves, this will drastically cut down recovery time. I would use this for any facial surgery tbh.
• topical vitamin k cream for bruising
• high dose calcium, vitamin k2 and vitamin d3 for bone healing

Hope this was informative; we need more surgery guides on this site.

Greycels carrying the forum, appreciated

 

[Klaas Vaaker]

high iq user

 

[Black_Cloud]

do you have any examples of this specific combo?

Arguably Genioplasty/chin augmentation and rhinoplasty combo are the most common facial surgeries to be paired. Many bimax patients get rhinoplasty during the same procedure. Water surgeries with thousands of examples online. Some examples:

Rhino + chin implant - can be substituted with genio.

Rhino + Genio

Rhino + genio

Bimax + rhino

Bimax + rhino

Chin implant + buccal fat pad removal.

 

[vampmaxxer]

Arguably Genioplasty/chin augmentation and rhinoplasty combo are the most common facial surgeries to be paired. Many bimax patients get rhinoplasty during the same procedure. Water surgeries with thousands of examples online. Some examples:
View attachment 2961608

Rhino + chin implant - can be substituted with genio.

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Rhino + Genio

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Rhino + genio

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Bimax + rhino

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Bimax + rhino

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Chin implant + buccal fat pad removal.

I'm planning on getting genio and rhino, and either buccal fat removal or cheekbone implant, the cheekbone implant would age better and my skin tighter ext. but buccal fat removal is cheaper and quicker to recover from and my natural cheekbones aren't that bad. Can anyone give me any suggestions and advice

 

[INB]

View attachment 2960501
8mm genio + rhinoplasty from an ex forum member, they ascended to normie then left this shithole

btw this is a chadlite side profile

 

[Deleted member 19957]

A good thread on this cursed site? Gad dayum

 

[user123456]

good thread bro

 

[coxel]

Arguably Genioplasty/chin augmentation and rhinoplasty combo are the most common facial surgeries to be paired. Many bimax patients get rhinoplasty during the same procedure. Water surgeries with thousands of examples online. Some examples:
View attachment 2961608

Rhino + chin implant - can be substituted with genio.

View attachment 2961610
Rhino + Genio

View attachment 2961612
Rhino + genio

View attachment 2961625
Bimax + rhino

View attachment 2961629

Bimax + rhino

View attachment 2961634
Chin implant + buccal fat pad removal.

good examples ty. imo buccal fat removal typically performs a lot better with women who have so much fat they get jowls ive only seen a few cases on men where it was good.

 

[coxel]

I'm planning on getting genio and rhino, and either buccal fat removal or cheekbone implant, the cheekbone implant would age better and my skin tighter ext. but buccal fat removal is cheaper and quicker to recover from and my natural cheekbones aren't that bad. Can anyone give me any suggestions and advice

you would need to post your face, if not, default suggestion is getting the genio and rhino first and assessing what you look like after 6 months (and you better be true sub 12% before considering fucking with cheekbones and fat pads)

 

[vampmaxxer]

you would need to post your face, if not, default suggestion is getting the genio and rhino first and assessing what you look like after 6 months (and you better be true sub 12% before considering fucking with cheekbones and fat pads)

Can i pm u

 

[coxel]

Can i pm u

sure

 

[ErbCel]

Good thread OP, there's three things I want to mention:

You say that a sliding genio only increases length, but since no one has a 90 degree gonial angle, increasing the chin length will make the chin look taller too, right?

Sliding genioplasty and vertical augmentation genioplasty are similar in that they increase the length of the chin. What's the difference in between them? Does the augmentation not require screws that remain in your face?

Last point. You said that usually men should go for large movements (10mm+). However, if one really isn't recessed and just needs a small movement (around 5mm let's say) would you still recommend getting a genioplasty?

 

[coxel]

Good thread OP, there's three things I want to mention:

You say that a sliding genio only increases length, but since no one has a 90 degree gonial angle, increasing the chin length will make the chin look taller too, right?

Sliding genioplasty and vertical augmentation genioplasty are similar in that they increase the length of the chin. What's the difference in between them? Does the augmentation not require screws that remain in your face?

Last point. You said that usually men should go for large movements (10mm+). However, if one really isn't recessed and just needs a small movement (around 5mm let's say) would you still recommend getting a genioplasty?

thanks bro.

1. yes. even if you just extend horizontally with no vertical change your chin will appear taller because of the increased prominence. note that irl this will be far more apparent as you are rarely seen directly front on like in this photo.

this is the guy who got 15mm forward and 5mm down, even without the 5mm vertical lengthening it would still appear taller.

2. i probably shouldnt have included vertical augmentation the way i did, as implants are considered a form of genioplasty i wrote about it and then forgot to remove. you will still need screws for the proper vertical lengthening/shortening genioplasty.

3. 5mm is still half a cm which for the chin will be very noticeable and an improvement to correct minor lack of projection. im very good at morphs so if you provide a pic i can show you what it would look like here or in dms. also the reason women tend benefit from less is they have slightly smaller mandibles and do not need as much projection as men to look good.

 

[coxel]

this 3/4 from this thread is a great example of what i mean when im talking about irl difference. this was "only" 8mm too.

also look at how insanely different the submental is afterwards, even semi conservative movements can provide much needed tightening of this area. OP would have never been able to achieve that no matter how much he leanmaxxed unless he got a neck lift to remove "excess" skin.

 

[lksmxr]

Sry for essay, but does anyone know if this be possible to get in reverse? I've heard it's called a reduction genioplasty but I can't find results anywhere and I'm not sure if my ramus is long enough to consider bimax. I don't have an underbite, but my maxilla's forward growth (unlike my mandible) is pretty poor, meaning that my mandibular teeth sit just behind my maxillary teeth, enough so that my bottom lip protrudes out further than my (already small) top lip making my maxilla look even slightly more recessed. if not genio, any other recommendations?
thx

 

[coxel]

Sry for essay, but does anyone know if this be possible to get in reverse? I've heard it's called a reduction genioplasty but I can't find results anywhere and I'm not sure if my ramus is long enough to consider bimax. I don't have an underbite, but my maxilla's forward growth (unlike my mandible) is pretty poor, meaning that my mandibular teeth sit just behind my maxillary teeth, enough so that my bottom lip protrudes out further than my (already small) top lip making my maxilla look even slightly more recessed. if not genio, any other recommendations?
thx

dont recommend unless you're a woman and look like this XDDD

you will have more loose skin and basically the reverse of all the positives i listed. you sound like a specialized case, i suggest going to a maxfac.

 

[lksmxr]

dont recommend unless you're a woman and look like this XDDD
View attachment 2967048
you will have more loose skin and basically the reverse of all the positives i listed. you sound like a specialized case, i suggest going to a maxfac.

Bet, thanks for reply. It's not a huge issue anyways for now, when I'm leaned out it becomes less noticeable. Le Fort 1 would solve most of my problems but I'm just trying to see if there are alternatives that are less expensive/invasive.

 

[aestheticsrespecter]

good stuff

 

[Deleted member 27550]

good

Haram.

 

[coxel]

Haram.

you dislike my thread?

 

[Vajra-]

thanks bro.

1. yes. even if you just extend horizontally with no vertical change your chin will appear taller because of the increased prominence. note that irl this will be far more apparent as you are rarely seen directly front on like in this photo.

The advancement is in line with the gonial angle, and not 90 degrees parallel to the ground right? That would add a bit of height.
Also, great thread + lifefuel motivation. Should have covered vertical genioplasty as well for completion - albeit getting that is more for frontal aesthetics than it is for profile shot in most cases.

 

[Nihonz9]

i think 90% of those people could of just benefitted from lower body fat and tongue posture but okay

View attachment 2960569

INTRODUCTION
Genioplasty is a surgery that has the potential to ascend the side profile, and to a lesser extent frontal. The surgery involves cutting the chin bone (mandible) and moving it forward/backward and/or up/down to achieve the desired shape and projection. Genioplasty can be performed alone or in combination with other facial surgeries at the same time, such as rhinoplasty or jaw surgery. The procedure should be done under general anesthesia (here is a favelatard talking about getting it under local and it is as horryfying as it sounds) and requires minimum one week of recovery time.

FIRSTLY GTFO WITH MUH FILLER AND CHIN IMPLANTS THEY ARE DOGSHIT

• large bone resorption with implants is INEVITABLE!!!! this is all you should need to know. some people have lost teeth, 10mm+ of bone etc. from implants
  • they are fucking retarded and should never be encouraged, only jew surgeons recommend this because they are money hungry and do not care about their patients
• filler is gay and if you seriously think you can go the rest of your life faking bone you are a pussy and stupid, not going to elab further

SHOWCASE OF POSITIVE GENIOPLASTY RESULTS
View attachment 2960501
8mm genio + rhinoplasty from an ex forum member, they ascended to normie then left this shithole

View attachment 2960521
10mm genio only

View attachment 2960532
user on this site got two genios, first was 10mm forward, not sure about downward. second was 5mm forward, 5mm downward, and 4mm of widening + jaw angle implants

View attachment 2960533
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960529
6mm horizontal (they needed at least 10mm ngl)

View attachment 2960535
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960561
9mm horizontal, was a user on this site but i couldnt find the thread

View attachment 2960523
10mm genio + lipo

View attachment 2960505
5mm genio + rhinoplasty (note that smaller movements on girls is usually all that's needed, 5mm is rarely enough for guys)

View attachment 2960512
yes no shit she needed more than just the 10mm genio she got but it's still an improvement, could have been a really good ascension if it was accompanied with bimax

View attachment 2960527
10mm horizontal 2mm vertical down, again another girl who needed bimax but still improved

note: you may have realised that the best results are where their chin projection was extended to roughly align with the lips (if they are downgrown or have a recessed maxilla ignore), simply draw a line from the nose downards and as long as the side profile posture isnt fucked you can get a rough idea if the chin projection is where it should be

GENIO WITH JAW SURGERY
For the truly recessed, jaw surgery when accompanied by genioplasty can ascend sooo fucking much

View attachment 2960537
10mm genio, 10mm left lower jaw/7mm right and had 6 or 7mm movement upper

View attachment 2960540
lower jaw 5mm + 7mm genioplasty, this photo is only 10 days post op as well

View attachment 2960542
30 mm lower and 4-6 (roughly) mm upper. Lefort 1 and BSSO for DJS, the genio was approximately 5-6mm

View attachment 2960549
12mm bsso (or more) and a large genioplasty + CCW rotation and maxilla impaction

TYPES OF GENIOPLASTY

• sliding genioplasty (the king and most common): moves the chin forward without changing its height using a horizontal cut.
• wing genioplasty: widens the chin by making a horizontal cut and placing a graft.
• stair step genioplasty: advances and lengthens the chin using step-like cuts in the bone.
• box genioplasty: simultaneously advances and lengthens the chin using a rectangular cut.
• vertical reduction genioplasty: shortens the chin height by removing a wedge of bone.
• vertical augmentation genioplasty: lengthens the chin by inserting a graft or implant.
• t-shaped genioplasty: combines chin advancement, lengthening, and widening using a t-shaped cut.
• asymmetric genioplasty: corrects chin asymmetry by making different bone cuts on each side.
• reduction genioplasty: reduces chin size by removing a portion of the chin bone.

BENEFITS OF GENIO

• incel to chad chin projection
• change the shape of your chin
• tighten the submental
• improve lip support
• extending the chin pulls up the geniohyiod which raises the hyoid
• stretch the skin on your face, which can make cheekbones more prominent and increase hollowing
• slightly increase airway
• improve how your face will age because of the extra bone
• correct minor chin asymmetry if there is one

IS GENIO RIGHT FOR ME?

IF you are not massively recessed and have no medical issues associated with recession (eg. fucked bite or small airway determined via CT scan) and simply lack some chin projection then it can be an amazing surgery. However, if you are worried you might need more than just a genioplasty please consult with a maxillofacial surgeon and get multiple professional opinions.

SOMEWHAT COMMON NEGATIVES OF GENIOPLASTY

• some permanent loss of nerves can occur in the chin, lip, or lower teeth area
• bottom lip rolling in from the incision being cut too high or the stich being too tight
• mentalis muscle dysfunction if it is not put back together properly
• not extending mandible far enough by doing a conservative movement

All of these downsides can be solved by simply going to a good surgeon and doing your research. If you actually need DJS don't be a retard and just get genio.

PLANNING YOUR SURGERY

• see if insurance can cover some or all of your surgery
• find the right surgeon, some good questions to ask are: do they perform this regularly? are they able to do large movements? are they aesthetically knowledgeable?
• do more research than just this guide, plenty of posts all over the internet about peoples experiences
• prepare any scans you can prior to surgery, lateral cephalometric xray is a good starting point and easy to get

RECOVERING FROM GENIO
View attachment 2960604

water tier stuff you will hear from most surgeons:

• prepare to be unable to talk much for a few days
• take minimum one week off work
• sleep as much as you can, on your back for minimum first 3 nights
• only clear liquids for first 24hrs
• protein shakes etc. after 24hrs for at least 3-4 days normally with as many calories as you can and after that start introducing soft foods
• walk as much as you can to reduce swelling
• mouth wash after every meal to keep incision from getting infected
• no heavy lifting for at least 3 weeks, most surgeons recommend 6 weeks
• by end of week 2 most people (excluding family and those who see you regularly) wont notice you have had surgery
• by weeks 3-4 you can start to have an idea of what the final result will be

lesser known methods of improving recovery:

• bpc 157 0.5-1mg/day for the first 2-3 weeks post surgery increase recovery time and improve likelihood of regaining all your nerves, this will drastically cut down recovery time. I would use this for any facial surgery tbh.
• topical vitamin k cream for bruising
• high dose calcium, vitamin k2 and vitamin d3 for bone healing

Hope this was informative; we need more surgery guides on this site.

 

[coxel]

i think 90% of those people could of just benefitted from lower body fat and tongue posture but okay

nigga you can be 8% bodyfat and put your tongue on the roof of your mouth all you want it will not move your chin into alignment. the only way for these people to fix their facial convexity was surgery.

 

[BlackpillRemedy]

View attachment 2960569

INTRODUCTION
Genioplasty is a surgery that has the potential to ascend the side profile, and to a lesser extent frontal. The surgery involves cutting the chin bone (mandible) and moving it forward/backward and/or up/down to achieve the desired shape and projection. Genioplasty can be performed alone or in combination with other facial surgeries at the same time, such as rhinoplasty or jaw surgery. The procedure should be done under general anesthesia (here is a favelatard talking about getting it under local and it is as horryfying as it sounds) and requires minimum one week of recovery time.

FIRSTLY GTFO WITH MUH FILLER AND CHIN IMPLANTS THEY ARE DOGSHIT

• large bone resorption with implants is INEVITABLE!!!! this is all you should need to know. some people have lost teeth, 10mm+ of bone etc. from implants
  • they are fucking retarded and should never be encouraged, only jew surgeons recommend this because they are money hungry and do not care about their patients
• filler is gay and if you seriously think you can go the rest of your life faking bone you are a pussy and stupid, not going to elab further

SHOWCASE OF POSITIVE GENIOPLASTY RESULTS
View attachment 2960501
8mm genio + rhinoplasty from an ex forum member, they ascended to normie then left this shithole

View attachment 2960521
10mm genio only

View attachment 2960532
user on this site got two genios, first was 10mm forward, not sure about downward. second was 5mm forward, 5mm downward, and 4mm of widening + jaw angle implants

View attachment 2960533
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960529
6mm horizontal (they needed at least 10mm ngl)

View attachment 2960535
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960561
9mm horizontal, was a user on this site but i couldnt find the thread

View attachment 2960523
10mm genio + lipo

View attachment 2960505
5mm genio + rhinoplasty (note that smaller movements on girls is usually all that's needed, 5mm is rarely enough for guys)

View attachment 2960512
yes no shit she needed more than just the 10mm genio she got but it's still an improvement, could have been a really good ascension if it was accompanied with bimax

View attachment 2960527
10mm horizontal 2mm vertical down, again another girl who needed bimax but still improved

note: you may have realised that the best results are where their chin projection was extended to roughly align with the lips (if they are downgrown or have a recessed maxilla ignore), simply draw a line from the nose downards and as long as the side profile posture isnt fucked you can get a rough idea if the chin projection is where it should be

GENIO WITH JAW SURGERY
For the truly recessed, jaw surgery when accompanied by genioplasty can ascend sooo fucking much

View attachment 2960537
10mm genio, 10mm left lower jaw/7mm right and had 6 or 7mm movement upper

View attachment 2960540
lower jaw 5mm + 7mm genioplasty, this photo is only 10 days post op as well

View attachment 2960542
30 mm lower and 4-6 (roughly) mm upper. Lefort 1 and BSSO for DJS, the genio was approximately 5-6mm

View attachment 2960549
12mm bsso (or more) and a large genioplasty + CCW rotation and maxilla impaction

TYPES OF GENIOPLASTY

• sliding genioplasty (the king and most common): moves the chin forward without changing its height using a horizontal cut.
• wing genioplasty: widens the chin by making a horizontal cut and placing a graft.
• stair step genioplasty: advances and lengthens the chin using step-like cuts in the bone.
• box genioplasty: simultaneously advances and lengthens the chin using a rectangular cut.
• vertical reduction genioplasty: shortens the chin height by removing a wedge of bone.
• vertical augmentation genioplasty: lengthens the chin by inserting a graft or implant.
• t-shaped genioplasty: combines chin advancement, lengthening, and widening using a t-shaped cut.
• asymmetric genioplasty: corrects chin asymmetry by making different bone cuts on each side.
• reduction genioplasty: reduces chin size by removing a portion of the chin bone.

BENEFITS OF GENIO

• incel to chad chin projection
• change the shape of your chin
• tighten the submental
• improve lip support
• extending the chin pulls up the geniohyiod which raises the hyoid
• stretch the skin on your face, which can make cheekbones more prominent and increase hollowing
• slightly increase airway
• improve how your face will age because of the extra bone
• correct minor chin asymmetry if there is one

IS GENIO RIGHT FOR ME?

IF you are not massively recessed and have no medical issues associated with recession (eg. fucked bite or small airway determined via CT scan) and simply lack some chin projection then it can be an amazing surgery. However, if you are worried you might need more than just a genioplasty please consult with a maxillofacial surgeon and get multiple professional opinions.

SOMEWHAT COMMON NEGATIVES OF GENIOPLASTY

• some permanent loss of nerves can occur in the chin, lip, or lower teeth area
• bottom lip rolling in from the incision being cut too high or the stich being too tight
• mentalis muscle dysfunction if it is not put back together properly
• not extending mandible far enough by doing a conservative movement

All of these downsides can be solved by simply going to a good surgeon and doing your research. If you actually need DJS don't be a retard and just get genio.

PLANNING YOUR SURGERY

• see if insurance can cover some or all of your surgery
• find the right surgeon, some good questions to ask are: do they perform this regularly? are they able to do large movements? are they aesthetically knowledgeable?
• do more research than just this guide, plenty of posts all over the internet about peoples experiences
• prepare any scans you can prior to surgery, lateral cephalometric xray is a good starting point and easy to get

RECOVERING FROM GENIO
View attachment 2960604

water tier stuff you will hear from most surgeons:

• prepare to be unable to talk much for a few days
• take minimum one week off work
• sleep as much as you can, on your back for minimum first 3 nights
• only clear liquids for first 24hrs
• protein shakes etc. after 24hrs for at least 3-4 days normally with as many calories as you can and after that start introducing soft foods
• walk as much as you can to reduce swelling
• mouth wash after every meal to keep incision from getting infected
• no heavy lifting for at least 3 weeks, most surgeons recommend 6 weeks
• by end of week 2 most people (excluding family and those who see you regularly) wont notice you have had surgery
• by weeks 3-4 you can start to have an idea of what the final result will be

lesser known methods of improving recovery:

• bpc 157 0.5-1mg/day for the first 2-3 weeks post surgery increase recovery time and improve likelihood of regaining all your nerves, this will drastically cut down recovery time. I would use this for any facial surgery tbh.
• topical vitamin k cream for bruising
• high dose calcium, vitamin k2 and vitamin d3 for bone healing

Hope this was informative; we need more surgery guides on this site.

Horrible thread, it’s filled with mistakes.

Most of the images (if not all) you claimed as genio results are bimax results instead. That alone ruins the thread.

Also i did not read the thing but some comment said u recommend 10mm genio blud 10mm genio is NOT even possible.

Pretty sure there’s many more mistakes scattered around the post but i CBA to read it since I already know it’s of sub-chatgpt quality cause you didn’t even bother to investigate the origin of the pictures.

Could’ve been very good if you had done the BARE MINIMUM research beforehand.

I pray that this post doesn’t make it to BOTB, otherwise this forum is finished.

 

[coxel]

Horrible thread, it’s filled with mistakes.

Most of the images (if not all) you claimed as genio results are bimax results instead. That alone ruins the thread.

Also i did not read the thing but some comment said u recommend 10mm genio blud 10mm genio is NOT even possible.

Pretty sure there’s many more mistakes scattered around the post but i CBA to read it since I already know it’s of sub-chatgpt quality cause you didn’t even bother to investigate the origin of the pictures.

Could’ve been very good if you had done the BARE MINIMUM research beforehand.

I pray that this post doesn’t make it to BOTB, otherwise this forum is finished.

nigga wtf are you on about saying 10mm isn’t possible??? burden of proof is on you for such an insane claim . i’d love to see which of my examples you think are djs but you think all of them are LOL

 

[Vajra-]

View attachment 2960542
30 mm lower and 4-6 (roughly) mm upper. Lefort 1 and BSSO for DJS, the genio was approximately 5-6mm

Can't believe this is real

 

[Deleted member 46941]

What will happen if I do rhino and genio same operation? Will I breathe through my mouth?

 

[Deleted member 46941]

Horrible thread, it’s filled with mistakes.

Most of the images (if not all) you claimed as genio results are bimax results instead. That alone ruins the thread.

Also i did not read the thing but some comment said u recommend 10mm genio blud 10mm genio is NOT even possible.

Pretty sure there’s many more mistakes scattered around the post but i CBA to read it since I already know it’s of sub-chatgpt quality cause you didn’t even bother to investigate the origin of the pictures.

Could’ve been very good if you had done the BARE MINIMUM research beforehand.

I pray that this post doesn’t make it to BOTB, otherwise this forum is finished.

Troll

 

[Lonenely sigma]

Horrible thread, it’s filled with mistakes.

Most of the images (if not all) you claimed as genio results are bimax results instead. That alone ruins the thread.

Also i did not read the thing but some comment said u recommend 10mm genio blud 10mm genio is NOT even possible.

Pretty sure there’s many more mistakes scattered around the post but i CBA to read it since I already know it’s of sub-chatgpt quality cause you didn’t even bother to investigate the origin of the pictures.

Could’ve been very good if you had done the BARE MINIMUM research beforehand.

I pray that this post doesn’t make it to BOTB, otherwise this forum is finished.

How much is the maximum for genio then?

Like, if we say 8 is possible, and I need 6mms of height, am I capped at like 2 mms of advancement or what? I don't get it, how does that work? I really wish to get a strong chin, in combination with a lot of advancement from BSSO. But since I actually do need 6mms to the chin height, can I even do an advancement lmao?

 

[coxel]

How much is the maximum for genio then?

Like, if we say 8 is possible, and I need 6mms of height, am I capped at like 2 mms of advancement or what? I don't get it, how does that work? I really wish to get a strong chin, in combination with a lot of advancement from BSSO. But since I actually do need 6mms to the chin height, can I even do an advancement lmao?

• Horizontal movement:
  • Advancement: The chin can typically be moved forward by up to 10-12 mm.
  • Setback: The chin can be moved backward by up to 6-8 mm.
• Vertical movement:
  • Upward: The chin can be moved upward by approximately 6-8 mm.
  • Downward: The chin can be moved downward by about 6-8 mm.

You can do both vertical and horizontal simultaneously by skilled surgeons.

 

[vzidel]

surgeon recs?

 

[Lonenely sigma]

• Horizontal movement:
  • Advancement: The chin can typically be moved forward by up to 10-12 mm.
  • Setback: The chin can be moved backward by up to 6-8 mm.
• Vertical movement:
  • Upward: The chin can be moved upward by approximately 6-8 mm.
  • Downward: The chin can be moved downward by about 6-8 mm.

You can do both vertical and horizontal simultaneously by skilled surgeons.

Are you sure about that one? So, if I want 11mm of advancement I can still get 6mms of height? Whats the COMBINED maximum, then?

 

[coxel]

Are you sure about that one? So, if I want 11mm of advancement I can still get 6mms of height? Whats the COMBINED maximum, then?

it depends on the surgeon, theoretical max could be like 12mm forward 8mm down but not many could do that, strongly suggest finding a surgeon in your area who does large movements and asking them bro

 

[saggyballsackcel]

View attachment 2960569

INTRODUCTION
Genioplasty is a surgery that has the potential to ascend the side profile, and to a lesser extent frontal. The surgery involves cutting the chin bone (mandible) and moving it forward/backward and/or up/down to achieve the desired shape and projection. Genioplasty can be performed alone or in combination with other facial surgeries at the same time, such as rhinoplasty or jaw surgery. The procedure should be done under general anesthesia (here is a favelatard talking about getting it under local and it is as horryfying as it sounds) and requires minimum one week of recovery time.

FIRSTLY GTFO WITH MUH FILLER AND CHIN IMPLANTS THEY ARE DOGSHIT

• large bone resorption with implants is INEVITABLE!!!! this is all you should need to know. some people have lost teeth, 10mm+ of bone etc. from implants
  • they are fucking retarded and should never be encouraged, only jew surgeons recommend this because they are money hungry and do not care about their patients
• filler is gay and if you seriously think you can go the rest of your life faking bone you are a pussy and stupid, not going to elab further

SHOWCASE OF POSITIVE GENIOPLASTY RESULTS
View attachment 2960501
8mm genio + rhinoplasty from an ex forum member, they ascended to normie then left this shithole

View attachment 2960521
10mm genio only

View attachment 2960532
user on this site got two genios, first was 10mm forward, not sure about downward. second was 5mm forward, 5mm downward, and 4mm of widening + jaw angle implants

View attachment 2960533
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960529
6mm horizontal (they needed at least 10mm ngl)

View attachment 2960535
12mm horizontal

View attachment 2960561
9mm horizontal, was a user on this site but i couldnt find the thread

View attachment 2960523
10mm genio + lipo

View attachment 2960505
5mm genio + rhinoplasty (note that smaller movements on girls is usually all that's needed, 5mm is rarely enough for guys)

View attachment 2960512
yes no shit she needed more than just the 10mm genio she got but it's still an improvement, could have been a really good ascension if it was accompanied with bimax

View attachment 2960527
10mm horizontal 2mm vertical down, again another girl who needed bimax but still improved

note: you may have realised that the best results are where their chin projection was extended to roughly align with the lips (if they are downgrown or have a recessed maxilla ignore), simply draw a line from the nose downards and as long as the side profile posture isnt fucked you can get a rough idea if the chin projection is where it should be

GENIO WITH JAW SURGERY
For the truly recessed, jaw surgery when accompanied by genioplasty can ascend sooo fucking much

View attachment 2960537
10mm genio, 10mm left lower jaw/7mm right and had 6 or 7mm movement upper

View attachment 2960540
lower jaw 5mm + 7mm genioplasty, this photo is only 10 days post op as well

View attachment 2960542
30 mm lower and 4-6 (roughly) mm upper. Lefort 1 and BSSO for DJS, the genio was approximately 5-6mm

View attachment 2960549
12mm bsso (or more) and a large genioplasty + CCW rotation and maxilla impaction

TYPES OF GENIOPLASTY

• sliding genioplasty (the king and most common): moves the chin forward without changing its height using a horizontal cut.
• wing genioplasty: widens the chin by making a horizontal cut and placing a graft.
• stair step genioplasty: advances and lengthens the chin using step-like cuts in the bone.
• box genioplasty: simultaneously advances and lengthens the chin using a rectangular cut.
• vertical reduction genioplasty: shortens the chin height by removing a wedge of bone.
• vertical augmentation genioplasty: lengthens the chin by inserting a graft or implant.
• t-shaped genioplasty: combines chin advancement, lengthening, and widening using a t-shaped cut.
• asymmetric genioplasty: corrects chin asymmetry by making different bone cuts on each side.
• reduction genioplasty: reduces chin size by removing a portion of the chin bone.

BENEFITS OF GENIO

• incel to chad chin projection
• change the shape of your chin
• tighten the submental
• improve lip support
• extending the chin pulls up the geniohyiod which raises the hyoid
• stretch the skin on your face, which can make cheekbones more prominent and increase hollowing
• slightly increase airway
• improve how your face will age because of the extra bone
• correct minor chin asymmetry if there is one

IS GENIO RIGHT FOR ME?

IF you are not massively recessed and have no medical issues associated with recession (eg. fucked bite or small airway determined via CT scan) and simply lack some chin projection then it can be an amazing surgery. However, if you are worried you might need more than just a genioplasty please consult with a maxillofacial surgeon and get multiple professional opinions.

SOMEWHAT COMMON NEGATIVES OF GENIOPLASTY

• some permanent loss of nerves can occur in the chin, lip, or lower teeth area
• bottom lip rolling in from the incision being cut too high or the stich being too tight
• mentalis muscle dysfunction if it is not put back together properly
• not extending mandible far enough by doing a conservative movement

All of these downsides can be solved by simply going to a good surgeon and doing your research. If you actually need DJS don't be a retard and just get genio.

PLANNING YOUR SURGERY

• see if insurance can cover some or all of your surgery
• find the right surgeon, some good questions to ask are: do they perform this regularly? are they able to do large movements? are they aesthetically knowledgeable?
• do more research than just this guide, plenty of posts all over the internet about peoples experiences
• prepare any scans you can prior to surgery, lateral cephalometric xray is a good starting point and easy to get

RECOVERING FROM GENIO
View attachment 2960604

water tier stuff you will hear from most surgeons:

• prepare to be unable to talk much for a few days
• take minimum one week off work
• sleep as much as you can, on your back for minimum first 3 nights
• only clear liquids for first 24hrs
• protein shakes etc. after 24hrs for at least 3-4 days normally with as many calories as you can and after that start introducing soft foods
• walk as much as you can to reduce swelling
• mouth wash after every meal to keep incision from getting infected
• no heavy lifting for at least 3 weeks, most surgeons recommend 6 weeks
• by end of week 2 most people (excluding family and those who see you regularly) wont notice you have had surgery
• by weeks 3-4 you can start to have an idea of what the final result will be

lesser known methods of improving recovery:

• bpc 157 0.5-1mg/day for the first 2-3 weeks post surgery increase recovery time and improve likelihood of regaining all your nerves, this will drastically cut down recovery time. I would use this for any facial surgery tbh.
• topical vitamin k cream for bruising
• high dose calcium, vitamin k2 and vitamin d3 for bone healing

Hope this was informative; we need more surgery guides on this site.

Don’t need this, I have great chin projection I need A larger chin in general what’s that surgery called

 

[Weed]

didnt read but based on pics based thread, good results

 

[coxel]

Don’t need this, I have great chin projection I need A larger chin in general what’s that surgery called

vertical genioplasty or wing genioplasty.

 

[drxkes]

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INTRODUCTION
Genioplasty is a surgery that has the potential to ascend the side profile, and to a lesser extent frontal. The surgery involves cutting the chin bone (mandible) and moving it forward/backward and/or up/down to achieve the desired shape and projection. Genioplasty can be performed alone or in combination with other facial surgeries at the same time, such as rhinoplasty or jaw surgery. The procedure should be done under general anesthesia (here is a favelatard talking about getting it under local and it is as horryfying as it sounds) and requires minimum one week of recovery time.

FIRSTLY GTFO WITH MUH FILLER AND CHIN IMPLANTS THEY ARE DOGSHIT

• large bone resorption with implants is INEVITABLE!!!! this is all you should need to know. some people have lost teeth, 10mm+ of bone etc. from implants
  • they are fucking retarded and should never be encouraged, only jew surgeons recommend this because they are money hungry and do not care about their patients
• filler is gay and if you seriously think you can go the rest of your life faking bone you are a pussy and stupid, not going to elab further

SHOWCASE OF POSITIVE GENIOPLASTY RESULTS
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8mm genio + rhinoplasty from an ex forum member, they ascended to normie then left this shithole

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10mm genio only

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user on this site got two genios, first was 10mm forward, not sure about downward. second was 5mm forward, 5mm downward, and 4mm of widening + jaw angle implants

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12mm horizontal

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6mm horizontal (they needed at least 10mm ngl)

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12mm horizontal

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9mm horizontal, was a user on this site but i couldnt find the thread

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10mm genio + lipo

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5mm genio + rhinoplasty (note that smaller movements on girls is usually all that's needed, 5mm is rarely enough for guys)

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yes no shit she needed more than just the 10mm genio she got but it's still an improvement, could have been a really good ascension if it was accompanied with bimax

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10mm horizontal 2mm vertical down, again another girl who needed bimax but still improved

note: you may have realised that the best results are where their chin projection was extended to roughly align with the lips (if they are downgrown or have a recessed maxilla ignore), simply draw a line from the nose downards and as long as the side profile posture isnt fucked you can get a rough idea if the chin projection is where it should be

GENIO WITH JAW SURGERY
For the truly recessed, jaw surgery when accompanied by genioplasty can ascend sooo fucking much

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10mm genio, 10mm left lower jaw/7mm right and had 6 or 7mm movement upper

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lower jaw 5mm + 7mm genioplasty, this photo is only 10 days post op as well

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30 mm lower and 4-6 (roughly) mm upper. Lefort 1 and BSSO for DJS, the genio was approximately 5-6mm

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12mm bsso (or more) and a large genioplasty + CCW rotation and maxilla impaction

TYPES OF GENIOPLASTY

• sliding genioplasty (the king and most common): moves the chin forward without changing its height using a horizontal cut.
• wing genioplasty: widens the chin by making a horizontal cut and placing a graft.
• stair step genioplasty: advances and lengthens the chin using step-like cuts in the bone.
• box genioplasty: simultaneously advances and lengthens the chin using a rectangular cut.
• vertical reduction genioplasty: shortens the chin height by removing a wedge of bone.
• vertical augmentation genioplasty: lengthens the chin by inserting a graft or implant.
• t-shaped genioplasty: combines chin advancement, lengthening, and widening using a t-shaped cut.
• asymmetric genioplasty: corrects chin asymmetry by making different bone cuts on each side.
• reduction genioplasty: reduces chin size by removing a portion of the chin bone.

BENEFITS OF GENIO

• incel to chad chin projection
• change the shape of your chin
• tighten the submental
• improve lip support
• extending the chin pulls up the geniohyiod which raises the hyoid
• stretch the skin on your face, which can make cheekbones more prominent and increase hollowing
• slightly increase airway
• improve how your face will age because of the extra bone
• correct minor chin asymmetry if there is one

IS GENIO RIGHT FOR ME?

IF you are not massively recessed and have no medical issues associated with recession (eg. fucked bite or small airway determined via CT scan) and simply lack some chin projection then it can be an amazing surgery. However, if you are worried you might need more than just a genioplasty please consult with a maxillofacial surgeon and get multiple professional opinions.

SOMEWHAT COMMON NEGATIVES OF GENIOPLASTY

• some permanent loss of nerves can occur in the chin, lip, or lower teeth area
• bottom lip rolling in from the incision being cut too high or the stich being too tight
• mentalis muscle dysfunction if it is not put back together properly
• not extending mandible far enough by doing a conservative movement

All of these downsides can be solved by simply going to a good surgeon and doing your research. If you actually need DJS don't be a retard and just get genio.

PLANNING YOUR SURGERY

• see if insurance can cover some or all of your surgery
• find the right surgeon, some good questions to ask are: do they perform this regularly? are they able to do large movements? are they aesthetically knowledgeable?
• do more research than just this guide, plenty of posts all over the internet about peoples experiences
• prepare any scans you can prior to surgery, lateral cephalometric xray is a good starting point and easy to get

RECOVERING FROM GENIO
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water tier stuff you will hear from most surgeons:

• prepare to be unable to talk much for a few days
• take minimum one week off work
• sleep as much as you can, on your back for minimum first 3 nights
• only clear liquids for first 24hrs
• protein shakes etc. after 24hrs for at least 3-4 days normally with as many calories as you can and after that start introducing soft foods
• walk as much as you can to reduce swelling
• mouth wash after every meal to keep incision from getting infected
• no heavy lifting for at least 3 weeks, most surgeons recommend 6 weeks
• by end of week 2 most people (excluding family and those who see you regularly) wont notice you have had surgery
• by weeks 3-4 you can start to have an idea of what the final result will be

lesser known methods of improving recovery:

• bpc 157 0.5-1mg/day for the first 2-3 weeks post surgery increase recovery time and improve likelihood of regaining all your nerves, this will drastically cut down recovery time. I would use this for any facial surgery tbh.
• topical vitamin k cream for bruising
• high dose calcium, vitamin k2 and vitamin d3 for bone healing

Hope this was informative; we need more surgery guides on this site.

genio saves lives