GIANT the inventor and why you should be careful with going to him

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That is 5 years more experience than anyone else :feelskek:

Literally not true. There are plenty on zoom and even a few that patients shared on the forum.

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. You have never consulted and you have never seen my results. Perhaps you have seen swollen healing pictures from support groups that leaked.


Either youre making shit up or you have unrealistic expectations. No one has come close to the level of natural aesthetics as me with implant results.


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Just a few I have on hand, out of the SMALL FRACTION that ALLOWED release or released themselves.

Anyone who says "Why aren't there lots of results posted" is a true Sub 90 IQ.


Im not even gonna explain why. I'll let you think a little harder why most people dont want their face out there.

Bet youre one of the entitled incels who thinks YOURE the exception as to why YOUR results cant be posted, but bitches about no one else sharing them.

True retard in every sense of the word!
These implants look pretty good suck how you can’t see their pupils tho
 
It actually does help

You might be paid or some shit

Faggot ass nigga sucking off giants dick for some money

He prob paid u like $5 and u sold out for $5 like the faggot u are cuz thats what u are, a worthless cheap bitch
Ok ill prove it when i feel like it but for now, take this as proof:

Bigmeat


Idk if giant eats raw meat (or even endorses it). Probably only if it's man made 😉 .

And no bro 5 dollars wtf u on about 😭 I HAVE BISNES, dont need no 5 dollars. AND I AM HOMOPHOBE, not fagot
 
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Ok ill prove it when i feel like it but for now, take this as proof:

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Idk if giant eats raw meat (or even endorses it). Probably only if it's man made 😉 .

And no bro 5 dollars wtf u on about 😭 I HAVE BISNES, dont need no 5 dollars. AND I AM HOMOPHOBE, not fagot
It's so blatant you're his fucking bot retard
 
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Atleast i dont suck giants dick
Neither do I. Just being objective and judging based on what I see instead of hating or loving. While also not making baseless assumptions.
 
Ok ill prove it when i feel like it but for now, take this as proof:

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Idk if giant eats raw meat (or even endorses it). Probably only if it's man made 😉 .

And no bro 5 dollars wtf u on about 😭 I HAVE BISNES, dont need no 5 dollars. AND I AM HOMOPHOBE, not fagot
Wtf has this thread turned into hahahah
 
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and that's why ramieri is probably the best option, had my consult with him a few days ago and he will start to offer many innovative implant designs. its almost like he and the implant design company trying to compete with giant rofl. although the designs are very conservative compared to giants which doesn't mean its a bad thing. But how he differs from giant is that he won't offer surgery to everyone, he told me that he is really starting to dislike looksmaxxers that consult with him only to not be a surgical case. apparently most of his consultations that he has are looksmaxxers and he ends up denying them surgery usually because they simply don't need. thankfully my lower third is lacking tho. really nice guy and a good balance between being a "blackpilled" and "bluepilled" although those words don't mean anything. I look forward to working with him and being a patient, its sad tho that this community breeds toxicity instead of empathy towards those unfortunate to be unattractive, which is why he dislikes looksmaxxers so much, for me I only chose him because he simply offers the best deal for surgery, not because I'm hyper insecure about myself ike apparently most people that consult with him. he simply offers the most amount of aesthetic benefit in one invasive procedure while still being proffesional and cooperative unlike a certain somebody lul,
I had in person consultation with him recently and I can confirm he's a really nice guy. "Thankfully" I have a really bad jaw too lol. The fact that he rejects these nasty goons who don't need surgery proves that Ramieri is NOT a money grabber but actually a decent human being. Good person, good surgeon tbh
 
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That's because it was never meant to increase pfl, this was just to take advantage of people whom have a small pfl.

It's scientifically impossible to elongate the eyes (aka sclera).
That's fucked, what does it do even do then lmao? I've noticed it increases the perceived skull width.

Not to say anything bad, but those are few results of the handful out there, I'll let you decide.
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Holy fuck the second one looks like a botched cartoon character :lul::lul::lul:

The first picture looks good but, knowing how much incels fraud their pictures, you never really know if the result is actually that good.

I'm hoping #2 was just a patient with very high demands, expecting too much from plastic surgery, falling for the skull transplant meme. Attempting to create halos instead of fixing falios. Nigga flew too close to the sun.
 
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I had in person consultation with him recently and I can confirm he's a really nice guy. "Thankfully" I have a really bad jaw too lol. The fact that he rejects these nasty goons who don't need surgery proves that Ramieri is NOT a money grabber but actually a decent human being. Good person, good surgeon tbh
Yeah I've heard great things about Ramieri and he has natural looking results.

I want to consult with him soon, I don't know if I need jaw surgery but it seems like my mandible may be slightly recessed. I have no noticeable functional problems but in some pictures it seems like my mandible might fall too far behind my maxilla idk.
 
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Ok ill prove it when i feel like it but for now, take this as proof:

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Idk if giant eats raw meat (or even endorses it). Probably only if it's man made 😉 .

And no bro 5 dollars wtf u on about 😭 I HAVE BISNES, dont need no 5 dollars. AND I AM HOMOPHOBE, not fagot
goatis tier 17 sub
 
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I'm hoping #2 was just a patient with very high demands, expecting too much from plastic surgery, falling for the skull transplant meme. Attempting to create halos instead of fixing falios. Nigga flew too close to the sun.
Tbh that specific guy is under the category of mentally ill, the kind that actually wants to look insanely bogged and botched. I believe he looks even more uncanny today from further surgeries.
 
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Holy fuck the second one looks like a botched cartoon character :lul::lul::lul:

The first picture looks good but, knowing how much incels fraud their pictures, you never really know if the result is actually that good.

I'm hoping #2 was just a patient with very high demands, expecting too much from plastic surgery, falling for the skull transplant meme. Attempting to create halos instead of fixing falios. Nigga flew too close to the sun.
he looks very syndromic in general. seems like he even got his eyebrows tattoed
 
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I think he did a lot of stuff beyond what giant did for him.
hes def a hardcore hardmaxxer. went from giant to the next turkish surgeon to get LL
 
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he looks very syndromic in general. seems like he even got his eyebrows tattoed
I mean it's possible he just tried flying too close to the sun.

I know a couple of people that have went too hard into hardmaxxing, and even with Giant they look botched. Majority of the fault goes to the patients though. It's definitely true that Giant purposely works in Turkey because of the looser restrictions
 
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His implants designs are likely better designed than most I've seen at least. They remind me of Barry Eppley's designs (or his personal designer--whatever) who is a very accomplished and creative surgeon. The only issue is that from what I've heard from several patients on this website he has a very long wait time (4+ years). Also keep in mind the published average rate of revision is around 40%. He has not published his revision statistics anywhere in peer-reviewed research online but I would suspect they're a bit better than that--good on him. I know several people who have downloaded the software themselves and designed great implants inspired by the hundreds of designs he posted on instagram, it's de facto open source at this point like everything online. He loves to show off his accomplishments, that's for sure! It takes some time to learn, but if you're smart and have a good eye you can pull it off. I encourage everyone to learn more about implant design and aesthetics themself. 🫦
 
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His implants designs are likely better designed than most I've seen at least. They remind me of Barry Eppley's designs (or his peersonal designer--whatever) who is a very accomplished and creative surgeon. The only issue is that from what I've heard from several patients on this website he has a very long wait time (4+ years). Also keep in mind the published average rate of revision is around 40%. He has not published his revision statistics anywhere in peer-reviewed research online but I would suspect they're a bit better than that--good on him. I know several people who have downloaded the software themself and designed some great implants inspired by the hundreds of designs he posted on instagram--it's de facto open source at this point like everything online. It takes some time to learn, but if you're smart and have a good eye you can pull it off. I encourage everyone to learn more about implant design and aesthetics themself! 🫦
I mean you cant see on a ct scan if a design is good or bad as it depends on muscle, skin thickness, nerves, etc. Thats why revisions are so high. Also some people shouldnt even have a implant in the first place depending on their skin etc. Also if you are over the age of 25 no one should install one as it will just make midface shit
 
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His implants designs are likely better designed than most I've seen at least. They remind me of Barry Eppley's designs (or his peersonal designer--whatever) who is a very accomplished and creative surgeon. The only issue is that from what I've heard from several patients on this website he has a very long wait time (4+ years). Also keep in mind the published average rate of revision is around 40%. He has not published his revision statistics anywhere in peer-reviewed research online but I would suspect they're a bit better than that--good on him. I know several people who have downloaded the software themselves and designed great implants inspired by the hundreds of designs he posted on instagram, it's de facto open source at this point like everything online. He loves to show off his accomplishments, that's for sure! It takes some time to learn, but if you're smart and have a good eye you can pull it off. I encourage everyone to learn more about implant design and aesthetics themself. 🫦
4 year wait time? Surely no one would actually wait that long
 
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4 year wait time? Surely no one would actually wait that long
I mean if someone do they are past their prime, anyone above 25 should never install a implant as the skin cant adapt
 
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Bruh, there is a SERIOUS lack of results out there.

All the results we have seen, except one or two, (less than 20) were leaked or shown on Giants patients instagrams or discord etc.

And to be honest most of them were mediocre at best. I think I saw one good result. Many looked actually pretty terrible
I will say the leaked one of the black guy with the giga narrow FWHR base is pretty insane. I havent seen many others, other than Linoob, but I have also recently learnt his base wasnt actually as bad as I originally thought.
 
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I mean if someone do they are past their prime, anyone above 25 should never install a implant as the skin cant adapt
whats the prime age to get implants in your opinion?
I was planning on wageslaving in my gap year to accumulate enough money to get:
-sliding genio
-gonial angle implants
-custom midface (combination of malar and lower IO)

I thought that around 20 would be perfect.:Comfy:
 
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whats the prime age to get implants in your opinion?
I was planning on wageslaving in my gap year to accumulate enough money to get:
-sliding genio
-gonial angle implants
-custom midface (combination of malar and lower IO)

I thought that around 20 would be perfect.:Comfy:
Gonial implant sucks shir, never seen one good result from that. And i have seen 10+ cases from giant and the jaw implants are dog water. And from other surgeons too gonial implant sucks. And its because of the masseter muscle fuck up. Most people with good jaws get carried by the muscle and not really the bone underneath. So if the muscle fucks up its over and that happens all the time. And it doesnt even need to be dehiscence just the reattachment.

Good age is 22-25 when the bones have stopped growing completely
 
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Gonial implant sucks shir, never seen one good result from that. And i have seen 10+ cases from giant and the jaw implants are dog water. And from other surgeons too gonial implant sucks. And its because of the masseter muscle fuck up. Most people with good jaws get carried by the muscle and not really the bone underneath. So if the muscle fucks up its over and that happens all the time. And it doesnt even need to be dehiscence just the reattachment.

Good age is 22-25 when the bones have stopped growing completely
Great thanks for the feedback!

Is there any way to get more prominent gonions then massetter muscles?
I can send you a clip of me in PM so you could say what your thoughts are.
 
Great thanks for the feedback!

Is there any way to get more prominent gonions then massetter muscles?
I can send you a clip of me in PM so you could say what your thoughts are.
Not really, i would compare gonions and masseter with biceps. Either you got a good short projected muscle or you got a long unimpressive muscle. And you cant really do anything about it
 
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Not really, i would compare gonions and masseter with biceps. Either you got a good short projected muscle or you got a long unimpressive muscle. And you cant really do anything about it
Damn.
And bimax/ccw rotation? would that help.
 
Ngl fillers look more logical to me nowadays. Implants are risky, expensive asf, need revions most of time, bone erosion etc. Probably fillers migrating to another area of the face only occurs with poorly applied or low-quality fillers. Just look at salludon he obv got fillers and looks same 2 years. Atleast go fat graft if you have bad eye area.
I got fillers yesterday and let me tell you, same day with the swelling and it looks natural.

Fillers are also a very good option.
Totally agree. Fillers get way too much hate here, even though they’re actually simpler and way less risky. And the results will basically look the same, as long as you’re a normie who doesn’t have any major subhuman deformities.
 
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Probably because they are so desperate and dont want to be realistic in ehat is safely achieved via surgery.
That’s literally your average hardmaxxer here
 
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He is rotting on this forum, Serious medical proffesionals wouldnt do that.
Everybody has hobbies. Most surgeons probably rot on pornhub all day. Does that mean they aren’t’serious medical professionals’
 
Everybody has hobbies. Most surgeons probably rot on pornhub all day. Does that mean they aren’t’serious medical professionals’
Most serious medical professionals has a relevant degree :aheago:
 
Most serious medical professionals has a relevant degree :aheago:
Completely different thing? You commented on where he spends his time online as if that makes him untrustworthy somehow, there are plenty of capable people with hobbies that vary immensely.

Not trying to suck his dick at all btw, that is just an extremely weak point of criticism which holds no value.
 
Completely different thing? You commented on where he spends his time online as if that makes him untrustworthy somehow, there are plenty of capable people with hobbies that vary immensely.

Not trying to suck his dick at all btw, that is just an extremely weak point of criticism which holds no value.
This is not his hobby place, most of his patients are from here. This is his recruiting ground for guinea pigs in his lab testing
 
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I will say the leaked one of the black guy with the giga narrow FWHR base is pretty insane. I havent seen many others, other than Linoob, but I have also recently learnt his base wasnt actually as bad as I originally thought.
any photos of the narrow fwhr black guy? did he widen his fwhr by a lot and if so, how?

@lurking truecel any idea what he's talking about?
 
any photos of the narrow fwhr black guy? did he widen his fwhr by a lot and if so, how?

@lurking truecel any idea what he's talking about?
I saw it on a discord, didn’t save it
 
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I mean if someone do they are past their prime, anyone above 25 should never install a implant as the skin cant adapt

So at 32 I should not be getting infra implants and cope with fat grafting and/or filler instead? It would certainly save me some money.
  • The scleral show reduction is achievable by other means and my surgeon choice prevents any significant saddle feature.
  • My midface is too flat already, I can’t add zygo prominence without completely flattening my midface.
  • Trying to raise the cheekbones just by adding material seems likely to create a very blocky and bloated look, especially because of the previous point that I can’t add projection.
  • Extra infection risk
  • Revision risk
  • Bone resorption risk
  • Damage to infraorbital nerve risk
I feel with these limitations - even ignoring the risks - the implant design is so restricted that it would have to be extremely small to the point of being useless and easily substituted with a minor injection of filler at a fraction of the cost. And now you’re saying my skin won’t adapt.
 
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So at 32 I should not be getting infra implants and cope with fat grafting and/or filler instead? It would certainly save me some money.
  • The scleral show reduction is achievable by other means and my surgeon choice prevents any significant saddle feature.
  • My midface is too flat already, I can’t add zygo prominence without completely flattening my midface.
  • Trying to raise the cheekbones just by adding material seems likely to create a very blocky and bloated look, especially because of the previous point that I can’t add projection.
  • Extra infection risk
  • Revision risk
  • Bone resorption risk
  • Damage to infraorbital nerve risk
I feel with these limitations - even ignoring the risks - the implant design is so restricted that it would have to be extremely small to the point of being useless and easily substituted with a minor injection of filler at a fraction of the cost. And now you’re saying my skin won’t adapt.
From what I’ve seen so far, “inframalars fixing scleral show” is kind of cope. Like even if you think about it, it won’t add vertical height to your soft tissue, maybe it will do quite opposite as you’re projecting forward.
 
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So at 32 I should not be getting infra implants and cope with fat grafting and/or filler instead? It would certainly save me some money.
  • The scleral show reduction is achievable by other means and my surgeon choice prevents any significant saddle feature.
  • My midface is too flat already, I can’t add zygo prominence without completely flattening my midface.
  • Trying to raise the cheekbones just by adding material seems likely to create a very blocky and bloated look, especially because of the previous point that I can’t add projection.
  • Extra infection risk
  • Revision risk
  • Bone resorption risk
  • Damage to infraorbital nerve risk
I feel with these limitations - even ignoring the risks - the implant design is so restricted that it would have to be extremely small to the point of being useless and easily substituted with a minor injection of filler at a fraction of the cost. And now you’re saying my skin won’t adapt.
Yea i would say, focus on kind of canthoplasty to make the schleral show better and then do fat grafting. You could place some sort of infra orbital implant via eyelid incision during the cantho surgery if you find a good surgeon for that. Bone resorption wont most likely happen around the infra region as their is no movement their like the chin for example. And yea the skin adaption will allways depend on your own elascticy. Thats good to check for yhe fat graft aswell. If the skin you grab feel paper thin its higher risk of lumps and uneveness after fat graft. Ideally you want a caliper and see how much many mm thick the skin is when you gently grab it around the eyes. Then for elasticy you should grab skin and see how well it snaps back, if it is instant it will be better after surgery
 
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So at 32 I should not be getting infra implants and cope with fat grafting and/or filler instead? It would certainly save me some money.
  • The scleral show reduction is achievable by other means and my surgeon choice prevents any significant saddle feature.
  • My midface is too flat already, I can’t add zygo prominence without completely flattening my midface.
  • Trying to raise the cheekbones just by adding material seems likely to create a very blocky and bloated look, especially because of the previous point that I can’t add projection.
  • Extra infection risk
  • Revision risk
  • Bone resorption risk
  • Damage to infraorbital nerve risk
I feel with these limitations - even ignoring the risks - the implant design is so restricted that it would have to be extremely small to the point of being useless and easily substituted with a minor injection of filler at a fraction of the cost. And now you’re saying my skin won’t adapt.
get midface surgery?
 
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Either getting them with Ramieri during my Trimax or not at all.
most jaw angle and inframalar results I’ve seen from Ramieri have been good, and he’s pretty careful with them, I’m getting them but it depends of course how much you would benefit from them, my whole lower third is just lacking really
 

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most jaw angle and inframalar results I’ve seen from Ramieri have been good, and he’s pretty careful with them, I’m getting them but it depends of course how much you would benefit from them, my whole lower third is just lacking really
He dont design them, and i think its better to not do jaw implants
 
He dont design them, and i think its better to not do jaw implants
he still has a influence on the measurements of the implants which influenced risk of dehiscence and how bad it looks, he's generally conservative compared to people like giant and other implant designers in the us
 
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