Gonial/jaw implants is the shittiest surgery

I mean it widens the chin the most. And yea i have not seen many results. And the process is horrid
So, does this surgery only widen the tip of the chin? I've read that it automatically widens the lower jaw laterally as well.
 
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So, does this surgery only widen the tip of the chin? I've read that it automatically widens the lower jaw laterally as well.
Yea ofc but the gonion area i am not to sure
 
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All result i have seen from it and even irl experience when i did my surgery was extremly bad. It just never looks neither natural or good. I have seen like 10+ giant result, 4-5 ram result and 6 pag result. Also a few on the internet, and i have never seen one good or even half decent result thats even remotely close too an average jaw with decent width. Most of the times it litteraly descended them to the ground. And the ones i have seen irl looks absolutely awful and uncanny even because the jaw doesnt look normal. Most good looking jaws comes mostly from the muscle insertions and the size of it. Jaw implants litteraly destroys the muscle or it is attached not even remotely the same. In worst case you get dehiscence and get some weird bump and muscle slid up and shit.

Absolute scam surgery, never touch ever unless you have the worst jaw in human history or can grow a beard over it
So what even if you were considerably right to most causes which I completely disagree with what will you do? Just have a shitty rat jaw? No.
 

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The width of my gonions is ok but the problem is that they are too high in relation to my chin because of the bad rotation of my maxilla. It makes my face look too V-shaped from the front.

A trimax with ccw rotation can be enough to significantly lower the gonions and give a wider jaw from the front in my case?
 
So what even if you were considerably right to most causes which I completely disagree with what will you do? Just have a shitty rat jaw? No.
Rather have a rat jaw :smonk:
 
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The width of my gonions is ok but the problem is that they are too high in relation to my chin because of the bad rotation of my maxilla. It makes my face look too V-shaped from the front.

A trimax with ccw rotation can be enough to significantly lower the gonions and give a wider jaw from the front in my case?
V shaped is ideal little moron:aheago:
 
Truecel are you criticizing more of the implants that mainly aim to flare out the gonions or just jaw implants in general that instead of adding width to the gonions they just make the mandible look like it has more bone mass.

This case from Ramieri didn’t use implants to necessarily flare out the gonions unlike his other implate case. instead it just added more definition since it imitates there being more bone.

I’m asking because Ramieri is starting to offer “mcw implate” which is another implant/bsso plate hybrid except mcw will cover more of the mandible so there is no step off. Which I would imagine would give similar results to the photo I posted, now ofcourse those results aren’t in motion so we don’t know exactly but the result look very good imo.

after I’m done with ortho Ramieri and I will come up with a design plan for implants and now I’m not exactly sure what I I should choose. I definitely do want some jaw implants although it’s mostly to even out my jaw symmetry and add some slight definition. I’m definitely going to ask for very conservative measurements, but don’t know if I should ask for mcw (such as in the photo) or his other implate technique that from what I’ve seen mostly just flares out the onions and adds ramus height. I want to choose the safest option. Which one do you think is safer?

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Interesting.

I will talk with Ramieri about this
 
Interesting.

I will talk with Ramieri about this
Tbh I’m going to ask him for the most conservative mcw movements, ones that only slightly flare out the gonions
 

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