High IQ is a social+dating death sentence.

[forevermirin]

i know 4-5 guys with 99.95th percentile IQs (backed up by accomplishments and performance, so not based on some comical online test), and they are textbook normalfags. Absolutely nothing off about them.

i actually think one of the most key separators for high iq folks is the questions in life that really bug them. for example I know really smart people who cope with stem - they'll spend their 20s in education - undergrad then grad school then research phd etc. and to me its just blatant cope. i know this because i almost went down that path with both math and then chess - you feel like its a complex and deep enough subject to keep your mind occupied for the rest of your life.

the main thing these are copes for is the impermanence of life - for me personally no material world endeavor has been appealing enough because i see them all as a means to procrastinate not knowing why we're here, what reality is, what happens after death - just very basic questions which most people can somehow brush aside as a given and focus on "living their life".

 

[forevermirin]

Sure it is, Talking about silly things like sports has its charm. You get to try predict who will win with your buddies. Having a debate isn't the only fun thing.

with friends it is - one of my best friends is below avg iq i believe but we still bond over retarded shit. but it gets tiring when u realize u care a lot less about these things than the other person - man honestly i miss the days i didn't feel this way but im older now.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

with friends it is - one of my best friends is below avg iq i believe but we still bond over retarded shit. but it gets tiring when u realize u care a lot less about these things than the other person - man honestly i miss the days i didn't feel this way but im older now.

yeah, it can feel isolating at times, like they can't ever have those more complex conversations.

Like with politics, I enjoy debating the validity of certain policies but it usually gets emotional and ends up not being that fun.

I felt better once I accepted what is possible and what isn't with people,

 

[forevermirin]

yeah, it can feel isolating at times, like they can't ever have those more complex conversations.

Like with politics, I enjoy debating the validity of certain policies but it usually gets emotional and ends up not being that fun.

I felt better once I accepted what is possible and what isn't with people,

politics is interesting - most people's political opinions are heavily based on their life experiences and existing biases, then they try to use rationality to justify themselves.

i find it fun to always argue for the opposite side, since its pretty easy to find reasons why both sides are right/wrong. most left-leaning people ik think im right leaning and right-leaning think im left leaning. in reality i just larp in every conversation.

 

[AngryShane]

Like with politics, I enjoy debating the validity of certain policies but it usually gets emotional and ends up not being that fun.

People don't like to talk about politics due to it being idiotic and it benefits no one except for the people in charge...

 

[7zyzz7]

>High IQ is a social+dating death senten-ACK

 

[Deleted member 17791]

politics is interesting - most people's political opinions are heavily based on their life experiences and existing biases, then they try to use rationality to justify themselves.

i find it fun to always argue for the opposite side, since its pretty easy to find reasons why both sides are right/wrong. most left-leaning people ik think im right leaning and right-leaning think im left leaning. in reality i just larp in every conversation.

I like doing that too sometimes, but I like to find the truth and convince people.

Any side is technically correct when you accept their axiomatic beliefs.


Honestly, it's gotten so intense lately. Politics has gotten a lot more important the past few years, it's kinda stopped being a hobby and more of a thing I feel I have to do.

 

[Deleted member 17791]

People don't like to talk about politics due to it being idiotic and it benefits no one except for the people in charge...

It's not idiotic. Politics is how you remove the corrupt leaders from power but retards just follow the elites like cows.

Its not my fault people get pre occupied with trans bathrooms instead of the guys stealing trillions of dollars.

 

[forevermirin]

I like doing that too sometimes, but I like to find the truth and convince people.

you can still only find a subjecitve truth at best, never objective. every "truth" or "fact" however scientifically derived is at most a calculated guess - it is ignorant to think otherwise.

Honestly, it's gotten so intense lately. Politics has gotten a lot more important the past few years, it's kinda stopped being a hobby and more of a thing I feel I have to do.

i disagree with this - politics and political discourse is a complete waste of time in my opinion.

 

[forevermirin]

It's not idiotic. Politics is how you remove the corrupt leaders from power but retards just follow the elites like cows.

Its not my fault people get pre occupied with trans bathrooms instead of the guys stealing trillions of dollars.

politics is as natural as evolution - there is no point trying to affect it as an individual as it will ultimately always be dictated by primitive ideologies that are appealing to the majority.

 

[SS-Ritter]

I feel similarly, the only way I can interact with most people without draining energy is by larping non-stop. I just start playing different roles which makes me come off as retarded to people who don't know me - but thankfully I have friends who understand this. Any actual meaningful conversation with most people is extremely unpleasant because I know exactly what point they're trying to make before they make it and it's something I've already considered (either in the past or while having that conversation) - so I always just end up either pointing out the pointlessness of the discussion or the underlying factors which they think is me going too far.

I've had 2 (maybe 3) friends in my lifetime who I've actually been able to converse with normally and it just feels so different. It's fun when one of these guys is around and I'm hanging out with my other friends because then we just continuously roast the retards without any of the retards even understanding we're roasting them.

yea same. I guess i can even be a bit annoying because i finish sentences of others so often. also every discussion i plan to have already passed my mind several times so i have am answer to every opposing argument, which makes the whole thing quite boring in the end

 

[forevermirin]

yea same. I guess i can even be a bit annoying because i finish sentences of others so often. also every discussion i plan to have already passed my mind several times so i have am answer to every opposing argument, which makes the whole thing quite boring in the end

i used to get a kick out of it when i was younger because i felt like jordan peterson "owning" people in debates but i soon realized most people's egos/intellect prevents them from ever acknowledging they're wrong and then they try to move the goalposts so they can end the talk without a bruised ego which is fine by me but makes the endeavor a bit useless.

when im feeling dark triad tho id literally rub it in so hard they dont want to talk to me again jfl. this rarely happens but once is enough per person for them to always be completely submissive whenever discussing things with me in the future.

super fucked up ik but this is the only place id ever voice these thoughts jfl

 

[MoggerGaston]

i actually think one of the most key separators for high iq folks is the questions in life that really bug them. for example I know really smart people who cope with stem - they'll spend their 20s in education - undergrad then grad school then research phd etc. and to me its just blatant cope. i know this because i almost went down that path with both math and then chess - you feel like its a complex and deep enough subject to keep your mind occupied for the rest of your life.

the main thing these are copes for is the impermanence of life - for me personally no material world endeavor has been appealing enough because i see them all as a means to procrastinate not knowing why we're here, what reality is, what happens after death - just very basic questions which most people can somehow brush aside as a given and focus on "living their life".

I loved philosophy, almost did it instead of physics.

Lots of people in this topic coping with 'its not IQ, youre just aspie'. But it's well known and studied that students in hard programs (physics,maths,philosophy) with high IQ have neurodivergent socializing and stay virgins for very long for example.

 

[SS-Ritter]

i used to get a kick out of it when i was younger because i felt like jordan peterson "owning" people in debates but i soon realized most people's egos/intellect prevents them from ever acknowledging they're wrong and then they try to move the goalposts so they can end the talk without a bruised ego which is fine by me but makes the endeavor a bit useless.

when im feeling dark triad tho id literally rub it in so hard they dont want to talk to me again jfl. this rarely happens but once is enough per person for them to always be completely submissive whenever discussing things with me in the future.

super fucked up ik but this is the only place id ever voice these thoughts jfl

yea i also love provoking people and keepint calm when they freak out, laughing in their face and making them look like idiots.
Once i provoked a guy so hard he wanted to attack me, which resulted in him getting tackled down by police before he reached me (it was at a festival). when he was escorted away i still smiled at him which made him furious, he tried to fight the police guys and got a juicy money sentence

 

[TITUS]

Autists thinking that their shit social skills are because they're just so much smarter than others.

My dad is a 140-150 IQ doctor and he can socialize just fine.

My older brother is training to enter the medical field too, he was in the 99.9th percentile of every medical student in the country. He again socializes just fine.

My older sister is also far above average IQ wise but she has trouble socially, she's autistic.

My mom used to work in medicine too, also a top student, likely 140+ IQ like dad. She also reached this level of education as a person of colour in a racially segregated country. Socializing comes easy to her.

The actual problem isn't IQ. The problem is autism (the average aspie is retarded btw)

"Person of colour" bragging about IQ, another delusion like the BBC myth.

 

[TITUS]

i actually think one of the most key separators for high iq folks is the questions in life that really bug them. for example I know really smart people who cope with stem - they'll spend their 20s in education - undergrad then grad school then research phd etc. and to me its just blatant cope. i know this because i almost went down that path with both math and then chess - you feel like its a complex and deep enough subject to keep your mind occupied for the rest of your life.

the main thing these are copes for is the impermanence of life - for me personally no material world endeavor has been appealing enough because i see them all as a means to procrastinate not knowing why we're here, what reality is, what happens after death - just very basic questions which most people can somehow brush aside as a given and focus on "living their life".

I have already read a couple of your posts and by the looks of it, I encourage you to study ropematics, you will then find your purpose in life.

 

[forevermirin]

yea i also love provoking people and keepint calm when they freak out, laughing in their face and making them look like idiots.
Once i provoked a guy so hard he wanted to attack me, which resulted in him getting tackled down by police before he reached me (it was at a festival). when he was escorted away i still smiled at him which made him furious, he tried to fight the police guys and got a juicy money sentence

jfl tbh i only do this with people i somewhat know.

 

[forevermirin]

I have already read a couple of your posts and by the looks of it, I encourage you to study ropematics, you will then find your purpose in life.

i have only read 2 of your comments on this thread, and by the looks of it you think you're a lot funnier than you actually are.

 

[TITUS]

i have only read 2 of your comments on this thread, and by the looks of it you think you're a lot funnier than you actually are.

Laughing at my own jokes is one of my specialities.

 

[forevermirin]

Laughing at my own jokes is one of my specialities.

thats admirable tbh, i also only make jokes because they make me laugh dgaf how i come off. luckily for me others laugh too but yes not everyone wins the comedic lottery - others (like you) should look into ropes.

 

[Deleted member 25059]

caging at this shit thread tbh jfl this nigga projecting his experiences to everyone
i also dont believe you are high iq

indeed kerbo

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I am 130iq (officially tested) myself and study physics. So I know the type of guy that is high IQ and how they act.

What is the issue with high IQ people?

They refuse to conform to looks/social norms.

Examples in looks:
1) average IQ with glasses will get contact lenses. High IQ with glasses will not.
2) average IQ will dress for appearance. High IQ will lean more towards comfort.
3) average IQ will spend money on looks/clothing/appearance. High IQ will spend money on hobbies.

Same with social behavior.
Average IQ will have hobbies, interests and socialize in a way that is familiar and considered normal.

High IQs simply dont care. They will speak the truth instead of giving the socially desirable answer. They have weird music tastes, hobbies, they dont drink alcohol, dont go clubbing, etc.

HighIQ leads to non-conformity. You want to lead your own life and dont care about fitting in, which leads to social and romantic failure

Sick of people making this excuse "of I am too high IQ to date". Unless your in the 99.9th percentile like 140-150 I doubt it.

Its literally just because you have autism and happen to also be smart or you are ugly and coping. Smart in a sophisticated NT way mogs no woman willingly wants to date a guy dumber then her. The idea that women want 90 IQ chads is stupid most white chads are easily 110+ IQ. Being good looking is a sign of being at least average IQ look at the dumbest people you know most of them will be ugly. I will look for the study on this but they showed Men and Women rated 95th percentile in good looks and attraction were 10 IQ points above the norm. Being good looking is just a sign that you had proper nutrition and that you have less genetic mutations so it goes without saying a person who is healthier on average will also be more likely to develop to their IQ potential

Hollywood popularized this notion that all attractive people are low IQ. Its really not true and its made to cater to losers. Really the sad truth is sometimes people are born good looking tall and high IQ. Nerds aren't even geniuses usually in CS the average is 110-125 still smart but midwit tier they just are semi smart with autism that allows them to hyper fixate. Though there is some overlap since autism/adhd can correlate with high IQ but there are also plenty of extremely high IQ people without any autism at all. I took CS classes the kids are much smarter then average but they also have autism and very few are exceptionally smart outside of a few subjects.

I also have autism or autistic traits that hold me back but IQ is not the reason I used to think it was till I met smart people who were very NT. Autism and IQ are correlated so it makes sense many would come to these conclusions. Smart people also are more likely to not receive proper social development in normie society this is another part of it a lot of times they are maladaptive in modern classrooms and develop autistic traits

 

[Lihito]

The rule of thumb is over one standard deviation difference in the parties intelligence means they will both struggle to properly communicate their thoughts with each other.

If you are over 115-120 IQ you are predisposed to be incompatible with the vast majority of people

I also have high iq and don’t find it hard to communicate with fellow university students and my professors; but when it comes to random people elsewhere I do struggle quite often. I use too much abstraction for them

Bro me to im so smart i jerk myself of everyday

 

[incelconspiracy]

That isn't High IQ. That's just being NT.

 

[Lihito]

Denver - dallas in 2.5 hours, can't wait despite being in CET zone

Zagreb ?

Znam da si mali jer to je glavni razlog celibata u RH , sam 170cm i mrze me brđanke hercegovke od 2 metra a samo su mi one privlačne

Aj DM

 

[forevermirin]

Sick of people making this excuse "of I am too high IQ to date". Unless your in the 99.9th percentile like 140-150 I doubt it.

why does it make you sick? how do you know its untrue?

Smart in a sophisticated NT way mogs

it is practically impossible to be NT if you're 130+ iq.

no woman willingly wants to date a guy dumber then her. The idea that women want 90 IQ chads is stupid most white chads are easily 110+ IQ. Being good looking is a sign of being at least average IQ look at the dumbest people you know most of them will be ugly. I will look for the study on this but they showed Men and Women rated 95th percentile in good looks and attraction were 10 IQ points above the norm.

Yes, when most people say someone is "Smart" it means 110-120 IQ - these people are intelligent enough to not come off as retarded in anything they try and dumb enough to come off as NT so that people can appreciate their "smartness". as someone on this thread said earlier 115-120 is probably the best IQ if you're trying to be conventionally successful at life.

Hollywood popularized this notion that all attractive people are low IQ. Its really not true and its made to cater to losers.

this is just a strawman, no one thinks attractive people are dumb jfl

Really the sad truth is sometimes people are born good looking tall and high IQ. Nerds aren't even geniuses usually in CS the average is 110-125 still smart but midwit tier they just are semi smart with autism that allows them to hyper fixate. Though there is some overlap since autism/adhd can correlate with high IQ but there are also plenty of extremely high IQ people without any autism at all

not sure what you're getting at here

 

[Lihito]

My mother has a very high iq. I think it was tested in the 150s range or something. She makes enemies easily and is asocial. She lives in the woods by herself, and feeds feral cats, raccoons, and foxes. think she may have been somewhat autistic as well. Nobody gave a shit about her behavior though because she was very good looking(mulatta Stacy ). Niggas working at fast food places would give us free shit to hit on her. These experiences blackpilled me on the importance of looks very early on.

Based

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[Deleted member 11126]

why does it make you sick? how do you know its untrue?

it is practically impossible to be NT if you're 130+ iq.

Yes, when most people say someone is "Smart" it means 110-120 IQ - these people are intelligent enough to not come off as retarded in anything they try and dumb enough to come off as NT so that people can appreciate their "smartness". as someone on this thread said earlier 115-120 is probably the best IQ if you're trying to be conventionally successful at life.

this is just a strawman, no one thinks attractive people are dumb jfl

not sure what you're getting at here

Its possible for sure to be NT above 130. Also my last point was that autism/adhd rates increase exponentially above 120 IQ. It just so happens that the gene combinations for many geniuses also cause autism/adhd or other weird brain wiring. So there is a correlation with smart people and autism on the higher spheres of IQ.

I would agree though 115-120 is probably the best for overall happiness but its usually autism not IQ alone

 

[forevermirin]

Its possible for sure to be NT above 130.

it really depends on how u define NT - if you mean not having any diagnosed mental issues then yes i agree. but in general i feel like it becomes harder to integrate with society the higher iq u get and unless you're somehow surrounded by high iq people u will need to live that lone wolf life which by definition leads u away from being NT (my definition)

Also my last point was that autism/adhd rates increase exponentially above 120 IQ. It just so happens that the gene combinations for many geniuses also cause autism/adhd or other weird brain wiring. So there is a correlation with smart people and autism on the higher spheres of IQ.

okay that's fair, probably true.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

it really depends on how u define NT - if you mean not having any diagnosed mental issues then yes i agree. but in general i feel like it becomes harder to integrate with society the higher iq u get and unless you're somehow surrounded by high iq people u will need to live that lone wolf life which by definition leads u away from being NT (my definition)

okay that's fair, probably true.

Yeah IQ is diminishing returns similar to height in the sense that beyond a certain point there in no inherent benefits and eventually it will harm you on average unless if your Lebron James being 7'1 is not better then being 6'1.


But I honestly think its not going to isolate you too much unless your like 140-150 you can find plenty of friends in the 130 range. Being 130 IQ is not that rare

 

[looksmaxxed]

everyone can find exceptions(or create them in their head through coping and rationalization) but it's blatantly obvious that high iq is strongly negatively correlated with being a normalton. what looks like the person being a normalfag is simply me being courteous and curious. like i'm watching a primitive tribe going through a ritual or something. there are certain things in the normshit realm like gangster or urban culture, rap and hip hop that is simply intolerable to high iq people.

 

[forevermirin]

Yeah IQ is diminishing returns similar to height in the sense that beyond a certain point there in no inherent benefits and eventually it will harm you on average unless if your Lebron James being 7'1 is not better then being 6'1.


But I honestly think its not going to isolate you too much unless your like 140-150 you can find plenty of friends in the 130 range. Being 130 IQ is not that rare

130 iq is 97th percentile, comparable to being 190cm height. it's not that rare yes, but it's a bit unrealistic to be able to surround yourself with too many people in that IQ range. I'm 6'3, most of my friends are <6' - also unlike height IQ is inconspicuous.

out of 100 people you meet only 3 will be 130+ iq. really not as easy as u make it seem to surround yourself with friends in that iq range. also its not like every high iq dude will get along with other high iq dudes.

i mean a simpler explanation would just be that while not impossible, it's obviously much harder to find "plenty friends in the 130 range" than it would be to "find plenty friends in the 110 range". hence its harder if you're higher iq to form social connections.

 

[MoggerGaston]

everyone can find exceptions(or create them in their head through coping and rationalization) but it's blatantly obvious that high iq is strongly negatively correlated with being a normalton. what looks like the person being a normalfag is simply me being courteous and curious. like i'm watching a primitive tribe going through a ritual or something. there are certain things in the normshit realm like gangster or urban culture, rap and hip hop that is simply intolerable to high iq people.

so many ignorant people in this topic.

socializing/trying to fit in with normal people is less interesting and gives less dopamine than for average IQ people. Obviously this is going to have large effects on your social mannerisms when you have less interest in fitting in with average people, whom you can't truly vibe with.

The fact people here can't even understand this, is truly astonishing.

 

[forevermirin]

normshit realm like gangster or urban culture, rap and hip hop that is simply intolerable to high iq people.

i do enjoy that shit as a larp ngl. i only listen to rap when im going to socialize it makes me feel more nt

The fact people here can't even understand this, is truly astonishing.

i feel like i can sift through this thread and accurately predict iq ranges based off their comments jfl.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

130 iq is 97th percentile, comparable to being 190cm height. it's not that rare yes, but it's a bit unrealistic to be able to surround yourself with too many people in that IQ range. I'm 6'3, most of my friends are <6' - also unlike height IQ is inconspicuous.

out of 100 people you meet only 3 will be 130+ iq. really not as easy as u make it seem to surround yourself with friends in that iq range. also its not like every high iq dude will get along with other high iq dudes.

i mean a simpler explanation would just be that while not impossible, it's obviously much harder to find "plenty friends in the 130 range" than it would be to "find plenty friends in the 110 range". hence its harder if you're higher iq to form social connections.

If you go to certain spaces this number exponentially increases. I have worked at walmart and I would say that the odds I would meet a smarter man then me are incredible low. But in a top 20 state school math department 130+ IQ is like 1 in 3.

Also there are internet places too looksmax while having many dumb people is still probably one of the higher IQ places where young men conjugate. There are also always books or internet content you can always find stimulating people or content if you look hard enough. I also don't think your friends always need to be as smart as you. Just can't be a huge gap like 15 IQ points may be too much to cross higher or lower then you.

Your not so much of an anomaly that you cannot find stimulating content or people. As for women even smart women are not stimulating or interesting. Women regardless of IQ will always be midwits who conform you should just accept that

 

[Leo69]

COPE.

You are the one coping here by telling me it's a cope. What makes you feel better.

 

[forevermirin]

If you go to certain spaces this number exponentially increases. I have worked at walmart and I would say that the odds I would meet a smarter man then me are incredible low. But in a top 20 state school math department 130+ IQ is like 1 in 3.

yes, but these 130+ers are busy stem coping which i explained previously is not for me. like i dont enjoy talking to 140 iq nerds who have their heads buried inside their group theory notes. i had a passion for math at one point, but certain life events made me realize it was just high level procrastination.

Also there are internet places too looksmax while having many dumb people is still probably one of the higher IQ places where young men conjugate. There are also always books or internet content you can always find stimulating people or content if you look hard enough.

bro yes, i dont think people here are saying they hate their lives because of their iq, just that they look at normies having normal fun and feel a bit of fomo (maybe even a bit of cope, partly justified tho).

I also don't think your friends always need to be as smart as you. Just can't be a huge gap like 15 IQ points may be too much to cross higher or lower then you. Your not so much of an anomaly that you cannot find stimulating content or people.

making friends isnt hard if u have some nt activities to bond over, which is easy enough just play/follow a sport etc. also people can tell you're smart and they want to be around you - but the problem is you bore easily off the conversations and eventually realize u dont share that many interests with your friends.

As for women even smart women are not stimulating or interesting. Women regardless of IQ will always be midwits who conform you should just accept that

i still lay in wait for a girl that can stimulate me mentally. im not giving up on that idc about blackpill i believe in god.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

yes, but these 130+ers are busy stem coping which i explained previously is not for me. like i dont enjoy talking to 140 iq nerds who have their heads buried inside their group theory notes. i had a passion for math at one point, but certain life events made me realize it was just high level procrastination.

bro yes, i dont think people here are saying they hate their lives because of their iq, just that they look at normies having normal fun and feel a bit of fomo (maybe even a bit of cope, partly justified tho).

making friends isnt hard if u have some nt activities to bond over, which is easy enough just play/follow a sport etc. also people can tell you're smart and they want to be around you - but the problem is you bore easily off the conversations and eventually realize u dont share that many interests with your friends.

i still lay in wait for a girl that can stimulate me mentally. im not giving up on that idc about blackpill i believe in god.

I used to think I could find a smart girl. I think they don't exist even girls who have high IQs. Being smart does not automatically make you interesting or not an NPC. Being smart only gives you the ability to not be an NPC.

The most remotely interesting or smart women I have met do not even stand close to interesting men I know. Really hoping for this is like hoping for something thats not real better to have a girl who is nice and submissive then to hope for some sigma girl who gets you. Hollywood and entertainment really sells this idea that you can truly find a woman who is your equal or some shit.

No man worth anything is going to find this unless if your stupid or very stunted you will not find this type of relationship. I have talked with many smart girls and they were not that interesting only girl I ever met was some aspie but I think that was because she had autism you won't find a normal girl who ends up interesting. There is a reason history is filled with men. Even in the modern age women have more opportunity then men and still produce nothing interesting.

Not to mention there are also statistically less high IQ women then men. But even women who are genuinely high IQ are still women.

 

[Acne Victim]

Autists thinking that their shit social skills are because they're just so much smarter than others.

My dad is a 140-150 IQ doctor and he can socialize just fine.

My older brother is training to enter the medical field too, he was in the 99.9th percentile of every medical student in the country. He again socializes just fine.

My older sister is also far above average IQ wise but she has trouble socially, she's autistic.

My mom used to work in medicine too, also a top student, likely 140+ IQ like dad. She also reached this level of education as a person of colour in a racially segregated country. Socializing comes easy to her.

The actual problem isn't IQ. The problem is autism (the average aspie is retarded btw)

The average looksmax user's family is made of nobel prize holders gigachads confirmed once again

 

[Deleted member 11126]

The average looksmax user's family is made of nobel prize holders gigachads confirmed once again

Average looksmaxer is over 6'3 chad face wealthy top .1% family 150 IQ. And yet somehow we still can't get laid the dating market is pretty tough out there.

Women now follow the 777 rule 7 inch dick 7 figures 7 feet tall

 

[MoggerGaston]

I used to think I could find a smart girl. I think they don't exist even girls who have high IQs. Being smart does not automatically make you interesting or not an NPC. Being smart only gives you the ability to not be an NPC.

The most remotely interesting or smart women I have met do not even stand close to interesting men I know. Really hoping for this is like hoping for something thats not real better to have a girl who is nice and submissive then to hope for some sigma girl who gets you. Hollywood and entertainment really sells this idea that you can truly find a woman who is your equal or some shit.

No man worth anything is going to find this unless if your stupid or very stunted you will not find this type of relationship. I have talked with many smart girls and they were not that interesting only girl I ever met was some aspie but I think that was because she had autism you won't find a normal girl who ends up interesting. There is a reason history is filled with men. Even in the modern age women have more opportunity then men and still produce nothing interesting.

Not to mention there are also statistically less high IQ women then men. But even women who are genuinely high IQ are still women.

All the areas where one could actually create something interesting is 95+% male.

If you are a high IQ male you have to be contend with dating a dumb bitch or its over.

 

[forevermirin]

I used to think I could find a smart girl. I think they don't exist even girls who have high IQs. Being smart does not automatically make you interesting or not an NPC. Being smart only gives you the ability to not be an NPC.

The most remotely interesting or smart women I have met do not even stand close to interesting men I know. Really hoping for this is like hoping for something thats not real better to have a girl who is nice and submissive then to hope for some sigma girl who gets you. Hollywood and entertainment really sells this idea that you can truly find a woman who is your equal or some shit.

No man worth anything is going to find this unless if your stupid or very stunted you will not find this type of relationship. I have talked with many smart girls and they were not that interesting only girl I ever met was some aspie but I think that was because she had autism you won't find a normal girl who ends up interesting. There is a reason history is filled with men. Even in the modern age women have more opportunity then men and still produce nothing interesting.

okay perhaps you are right about me never finding a "girl that will mentally stimulate me". but maybe i phrased that wrong - i simply want a girl i can fall in love with without pitying her iq. she needn't be super smart or intellectual or anything, just someone that doesn't make me go "damn you're dumb" in my head on a regular basis.

but maybe even that's too optimistic, truth be told i have been attracted to dumber girls who were submissive, but i just felt fucked up for that. almost like id feel if i was to date a girl much younger than myself. maybe i need to get over that feeling.

it's possible that all im searching for is a platonic friendship with someone who understands me well enough - hoping for sexual attraction on top of that is likely unrealistic.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

All the areas where one could actually create something interesting is 95+% male.

If you are a high IQ male you have to be contend with dating a dumb bitch or its over.

My only point is the notion that you will find a woman who challenges you is a modern notion. If you are looking for intellectual stimulation women are the last place you would look you should be content with that they are useful in other ways but your not going to find a real challenge in women.

okay perhaps you are right about me never finding a "girl that will mentally stimulate me". but maybe i phrased that wrong - i simply want a girl i can fall in love with without pitying her iq. she needn't be super smart or intellectual or anything, just someone that doesn't make me go "damn you're dumb" in my head on a regular basis.

but maybe even that's too optimistic, truth be told i have been attracted to dumber girls who were submissive, but i just felt fucked up for that. almost like id feel if i was to date a girl much younger than myself. maybe i need to get over that feeling.

it's possible that all im searching for is a platonic friendship with someone who understands me well enough - hoping for sexual attraction on top of that is likely unrealistic.

Idk about dating a dumb girl but a reasonable smart submissive girl is fine. Just quit watching anime where the character gets the interesting "not like the other girls" waifu its not real or healthy to think this way. Trust me you won't find your equal and even if you could that sort of relationship dynamic is not healthy. Your 3 choices are give up on dating accept this fact or become a fag to get that kinda relationship

 

[forevermirin]

My only point is the notion that you will find a woman who challenges you is a modern notion. If you are looking for intellectual stimulation women are the last place you would look you should be content with that they are useful in other ways but your not going to find a real challenge in women.

idk man, nothing about modern society made me feel this way just the girl i dated in the past. i dont like submission when it feels like they literally cant think for themselves.

Idk about dating a dumb girl but a reasonable smart submissive girl is fine. Just quit watching anime where the character gets the interesting "not like the other girls" waifu its not real or healthy to think this way. Trust me you won't find your equal and even if you could that sort of relationship dynamic is not healthy. Your 3 choices are give up on dating accept this fact or become a fag to get that kinda relationship

i dont actually consume any media outside of football, but yes "reasonably smart submissive" sounds good now just need to make sure she meets my autistic looks standards and i meet hers lol.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

idk man, nothing about modern society made me feel this way just the girl i dated in the past. i dont like submission when it feels like they literally cant think for themselves.

i dont actually consume any media outside of football, but yes "reasonably smart submissive" sounds good now just need to make sure she meets my autistic looks standards and i meet hers lol.

Well to be fair its a big trope in media where some guy finds the girl who completes him and she's also super smart. The entire notion of love or marriage today is also warped. Love is a secondary reason marriage existed solely for procreation it was a contract that would ensure kids would be raised in a stable environment.

Really in my opinion this is the sole and only reason to be with any girl in the long term for a family. Having a woman who is a stable mother would be more important to me then if she were interesting that should really be secondary. Any LTR outside of this idea or goal is doomed to fail.

Children is the reason you would want to be with a woman for a long time

 

[TITUS]

The average looksmax user's family is made of nobel prize holders gigachads confirmed once again

She's also black, it's like one of those hollywood movies in which all the NASA space engineers are black women.

 

[TITUS]

okay perhaps you are right about me never finding a "girl that will mentally stimulate me". but maybe i phrased that wrong - i simply want a girl i can fall in love with without pitying her iq. she needn't be super smart or intellectual or anything, just someone that doesn't make me go "damn you're dumb" in my head on a regular basis.

but maybe even that's too optimistic, truth be told i have been attracted to dumber girls who were submissive, but i just felt fucked up for that. almost like id feel if i was to date a girl much younger than myself. maybe i need to get over that feeling.

it's possible that all im searching for is a platonic friendship with someone who understands me well enough - hoping for sexual attraction on top of that is likely unrealistic.

You already sound like a faggot, there are plenty of men who will fulfill your expectations, it's just one step into the right direction for you.

 

[forevermirin]

You already sound like a faggot, there are plenty of men who will fulfill your expectations, it's just one step into the right direction for you.

"a truly wise man will often sound like a faggot, but only to a faggot" - kant in his critique.

now cope and seethe before u jerk off to my avi later tonight.

 

[Deleted member 22627]

The positive correlation is not that strong

I'm 144 (WAIS IV) and experience none of the things you described. I have absolutely every textbook "high iq trait" and just see people saying it holds them back as coping idiots

Can't even reliably measure over 129 or so. If you are even moderately high IQ you know why.

 

[Mastermind]

Examples in looks:
1) average IQ with glasses will get contact lenses. High IQ with glasses will not.
2) average IQ will dress for appearance. High IQ will lean more towards comfort.
3) average IQ will spend money on looks/clothing/appearance. High IQ will spend money on hobbies.

What a bunch of retarded subhuman cope
You're just lazy