Hopping on roids soon, How do i maximise DHT everywhere except my scalp?

[EGGY 1671u32g]

im starting 500mg test 200mg mast soon, im 17.5 but my bone age is 16.5 so im hoping ill still be able to reap some frame and bonemass benefits from the DHT increase on cycle but im scared shitless of balding. My dad is 45 and norwood 4 ish so i know i probably have a decent chance of the baldness gene. Especially since we both have the exact same hair texture and thickness when he was younger.

So what stuff could i run that reduces scalp dht only while maintaining systemic dht (i heard topical fin still reduces it by over 40% systemically)

 

[Outerz14]

im starting 500mg test 200mg mast soon, im 17.5 but my bone age is 16.5 so im hoping ill still be able to reap some frame and bonemass benefits from the DHT increase on cycle but im scared shitless of balding. My dad is 45 and norwood 4 ish so i know i probably have a decent chance of the baldness gene. Especially since we both have the exact same hair texture and thickness when he was younger.

So what stuff could i run that reduces scalp dht only while maintaining systemic dht (i heard topical fin still reduces it by over 40% systemically)

bro mast will bald your ass just do test with primo and keep primo higher than your test if you don’t want estro sides g

 

[EGGY 1671u32g]

bro mast will bald your ass just do test with primo and keep primo higher than your test if you don’t want estro sides g

what does primo do?

 

[puffer234234]

Doesn't work like that lol you can't just block dht in your scalp and nowhere else

 

[Outerz14]

what does primo do?

Don’t bald your arse

 

[EGGY 1671u32g]

Doesn't work like that lol you can't just block dht in your scalp and nowhere else

no shit nigga thats what i said, im just looking for something that goes less systematic than topical fin which blocks around 40% of serum dht compared to 60% with oral

 

[cornerd nerd]

read this:
https://looksmax.org/threads/dht-maxing-ultimate-guide.167747/

 

[Alexanderr]

You better have a robust anti-aging stack before you think about hopping on any roids.
Here's something I had laying in my files on the topic. You don't need to do everything listed, but if you did, you won't have to worry about roids aging you one bit.

Spoiler

A. Hair Preservation​

1. Medications:
   • Dutasteride: 2.5mg daily (a lower dose but can be administered daily for maximum DHT suppression).
   • Minoxidil (Oral): 7.5mg daily (recognizing oral use).
2. Adjunct Measures:
   • Microneedling (Derminator 2 on Scalp): Perform 1x per week at 0.5-1mm depth to enhance local blood flow and stimulate hair follicles, while taking caution of redness or swelling. This is a local treatment to aid in hair retention.
   • Topical Anti-Inflammatories (Specific Examples): If you experience scalp irritation or inflammation, consider a low-potency topical corticosteroid like hydrocortisone cream 1% or 2.5% or a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory like clobetasol propionate (0.05%) cream, applied as needed, but for the shortest time possible. Use it sparingly. Other topical creams include Pimecrolimus or Tacrolimus for individuals who are sensitive to topical corticosteroids.
3. Lifestyle and Nutrition for Hair:
   • Diet: Ensure 1-1.2g/lb of protein, address any iron deficiency, and include biotin (5000 mcg) and vitamin D (5,000-10,000 IU) daily. Focus on whole, unprocessed foods to reduce systemic inflammation. Specifically, avoid highly inflammatory foods like dairy products, refined sugars, and trans fats.
   • Styling: Avoid harsh chemicals and reduce the usage of heat styling such as blow dryers, curling irons, etc. when possible.

B. Comprehensive Skincare Routine (Prioritized)​

1. Daily Core Routine (Morning and Evening):
   • Gentle Cleanser: Non-comedogenic, pH-balanced cleanser to avoid irritation.
   • Moisturizer: Use a hydrating moisturizer rich in ceramides and hyaluronic acid.
   • Sunscreen: Broad-spectrum SPF 30+ sunscreen applied generously before sun exposure, and use protective clothing or hats.
   • Antioxidant Serum: Apply a Vitamin C serum (L-ascorbic acid preferred at 10-20% concentration) and Vitamin E mixed with ferulic acid, to neutralize free radicals and stimulate collagen.
2. Evening Treatments:
   • Tretinoin (Topical Retinoid): Start with a low concentration (0.025%) every other night, gradually increasing frequency and concentration as tolerated.
   • Niacinamide: Apply 5-10% niacinamide daily to regulate oiliness, minimize pores, and improve skin tone.
   • Azelaic Acid: Apply azelaic acid to target acne and inflammation, it's also great for brightening skin tone.
3. Periodic Treatments (1-2x Weekly):
   • Exfoliation: Use mild glycolic or lactic acid peels (5-10% concentration) or a mild scrub to enhance cell turnover.
4. On-Demand Treatments:
   • Tackling Acne/Oiliness: Look into zinc 25mg bisglycinate or picolinate in the morning to help with acne. In more severe cases seek professional help with a dermatologist to see if you can go on a low dose isotretinoin treatment.
5. Additional Treatments
   • Red Light Therapy: Perform red light therapy for 10-20 minutes per session at least 3 times weekly.

C. Professional In-Office Interventions​

1. Energy-Based Therapies:
   • Fractional Laser Resurfacing: If needed to address severe skin texture concerns, consider consulting a dermatologist for best outcome.
   • Radiofrequency Microneedling: If you have a higher budget you can also consult with a dermatologist about this option.
2. Injectables and Regenerative Treatments:
   • PRP/Exosome Injections: A potentially beneficial but costly procedure that is still being investigated.
   • Soft Tissue Fillers: If volume loss is a great concern, then you may get soft tissue fillers, however this is a very costly procedure that is not required for all.
3. Scalp PRP Treatments: Only consider this if hair loss is severe, as there are other options at a lower price point.

D. Internal Support & Systemic Health Optimization​

1. Micronutrient Intake:Prioritize a balanced diet rich in:
   • Antioxidants: Colorful fruits and vegetables, especially berries, leafy greens, nuts, and seeds.
   • Minerals: Zinc (25mg picolinate or bisglycinate), magnesium (100-200mg bisglycinate or citrate), selenium (100-200mcg), and iron (if deficient) throughout the day with meals.
   • Vitamins: A mixed form of Vitamin E (200-400 IU) and Vitamin D3 (5,000-10,000 IU daily with Vitamin K), taking both with fatty meals for optimized uptake.
   • Omega-3 Fatty Acids: Supplement with fish oil (500-1000mg EPA/DHA per meal).
2. Systemic Inflammation Control:
   • Curcumin: Supplement with high-quality curcumin with piperine (500-1000mg) to reduce inflammation markers such as CRP.
   • Taurine: Supplement 3000-5000mg of taurine during the day or around workouts to help with cellular hydration.
3. Organ Support:
   • TUDCA (Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid): Consider 250-500mg daily if liver enzymes (ALT/AST) are persistently elevated due to performance enhancing drugs.

• NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine): Consider 600mg 1-2 times daily to support glutathione production.

1. Gut Health:
   • Include probiotic-rich foods (e.g., probiotic yogurt with lactobacillus strains) or a quality probiotic supplement.
   • Prioritize dietary fiber to promote regular bowel movements (25-35g).
2. Stress Management:
   • Implement a daily meditation or mindfulness practice.
   • Make sure that you have at least 1 hour a day with a hobby you actually enjoy.
3. Sleep and Recovery:
   • Prioritize 7-9 hours of high quality sleep at a set time.
   • Avoid screen time before bed.
   • Incorporate a sleep stack with L-theanine, magnesium, or other supplements.
4. Avoidance of Detrimental Habits:
   • Minimize alcohol, avoid smoking, and moderate sun exposure to prevent further cellular damage.

E. Emerging or Supportive Therapies​

1. NAD+ Precursors:
   • Consider NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide, 250-500mg daily or nicotinamide riboside 300mg daily at the same time) in a fasted state, to improve cellular health.

• Resveratrol: Consider taking with some fatty meals or in combination with other antioxidants (250-500mg daily).

1. Methylene Blue: Consider taking 50-100mg daily with a vitamin C supplement to improve mitochondrial function.
2. Injectable Glutathione: Consider 200-600mg injections 2-3 times per week.
3. Ongoing Monitoring and Adjustments:

• Perform blood work (full panel including inflammation) every 3 months.
• Record symptoms, mood, and progress in a daily journal.
• Consult a healthcare provider to fine-tune your protocol based on blood work and self-monitoring.

 

[averagenormie]

By simply applying anti androgens on your scalp

 

[IrishSlayer1483]

im starting 500mg test 200mg mast soon, im 17.5 but my bone age is 16.5 so im hoping ill still be able to reap some frame and bonemass benefits from the DHT increase on cycle but im scared shitless of balding. My dad is 45 and norwood 4 ish so i know i probably have a decent chance of the baldness gene. Especially since we both have the exact same hair texture and thickness when he was younger.

So what stuff could i run that reduces scalp dht only while maintaining systemic dht (i heard topical fin still reduces it by over 40% systemically)

you cant reduce only scalp dht, you either stick with it or dont