How can a blackpiller actually believe in God?

[Deleted member 4612]

I might get different answers here than I might at incels.is because people here are better looking, but anyway....

How could anyone believe in a religious god if they're blackpilled? There is no proof whatsoever except a book full of weird stories that have actually been disputed as not making sense (i.e. Noah's Ark). The blackpill is about accepting harsh truths and reality and it doesn't make sense for God to subject humans to such extreme torturous conditions simply because people ate a fruit. Then there's the omniscient paradox which says if God knows everything he knows what you're going to do and therefore free will can't exist. There's other arguments (PLENTY) but I'm not gonna drag this post out.

Perhaps you believe in some sort of deity, but the Abrahamic God? makes no sense.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

maybe they believe in the vengeful OT god who wreaks havoc on everyone. and instead of jews its chads who are the chosen.

 

[SMVbender]

blackpill has nothing to do with God
but since you are edgyboi self identify with anything not mainstream you find a way

 

[KEy21]

Your reasoning is not on point in this thread

The comparison and reasons for your conclusions don’t make much sense

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Your reasoning is not on point in this thread

The comparison and reasons for your conclusions don’t make much sense

It's the middle of the night jfl. elaborate a little.

 

[Over]

You better hope there is no God, thought that there is such a cruel entity is scary.

 

[KEy21]

“Being blackpilled” and “accepting the harsh truths about the world”

Isn’t a case for disproving the monotheistic branch of religions

In the same way “It doesnt make sense for God to do X,Y,Z”

Isn’t anything more than an opinion as well. So are the other things you’ve listed.

The blackpill and religion are really two completely separate entities and the blackpill doesn’t do anything in regard to opening up a wormhole to sway beliefs in any direction

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Your reasoning is not on point in this thread

The comparison and reasons for your conclusions don’t make much sense

Does the omniscient paradox not make sense in the way I explained it?

 

[Blackout.xl]

Your reasoning is not on point in this thread

The comparison and reasons for your conclusions don’t make much sense

Debunk him pls

 

[KEy21]

Debunk him pls

There’s nothing really to “debunk” as there’s no real argument there. He’s just stating his opinions and what he thinks

 

[Deleted member 4612]

“Being blackpilled” and “accepting the harsh truths about the world”

Isn’t a case for disproving the monotheistic branch of religions

In the same way “It doesnt make sense for God to do X,Y,Z”

Isn’t anything more than an opinion as well. So are the other things you’ve listed.

The blackpill and religion are really two completely separate entities and the blackpill doesn’t do anything in regard to opening up a wormhole to sway beliefs in any direction

Also the Noah's ark story doesn't make sense. There was someone who talked about the mathematics of the amount of food needed and it wouldn't fit

 

[Drugs]

I don't deny that God exists. I accept that the universe could have a creator/designer. But I don't think any of the major religions have it right. What gives Christianity an edge over Hinduism, or Islam, or any of the other 100s of religions in the world?

 

[Blackout.xl]

I don't deny that God exists. I accept that the universe could have a creator/designer. But I don't think any of the major religions have it right. What gives Christianity an edge over Hinduism, or Islam, or any of the other 100s of religions in the world?

Who’s knows bro. God is great though

 

[HighIQcel]

If God exists then why does he create recessed incels with negative canthal tilt?

 

[SMVbender]

inb4 allah and torah god are cruel and brutal af you can't even bear

 

[KEy21]

Also the Noah's ark story doesn't make sense. There was someone who talked about the mathematics of the amount of food needed and it wouldn't fit

The ancient texts have been revised hundreds of thousands of times, skewed towards the likes of man in just about every revision.

The modern day story of Noah’s ark having any contradictions wouldn’t in itself disprove the existence of a creator. I don’t see how it would

Also climates, lifespans etc. have to be taken into account.

It’s impossible to know what the truth is without proof and accurate accountings. Oral tradition is the only thing that existed during a lot of the writings.

(Fictional hypothetical to demonstrate our lack of understanding) People could have been making magic in the streets during those times, a turn and rotation in the earth or whatever other climactic phenomena could have flipped the script and caused a non magic dark age for all we know.

We just simply don’t have enough resources to recollect those times accurately.

But what we know, is that these are faith based religions, so the absence of their existence skews the dial towards them more being true than not (in that individual regard) so their lack of prevalence works in an opposite effect to disprove their existence as a whole.

 

[Blackout.xl]

If God exists then why does he create recessed incels with negative canthal tilt?

Subhuman genetics being spread around due to religion allowing subhumans breed due to their hard work. There, I answered your question

 

[LordNorwood]

Read my rec'd book son

 

[Deleted member 4612]

If God exists then why does he create recessed incels with negative canthal tilt?

apparently it's a part of the "fall".

Why are some affected by it and some not, doesn't make any sense

 

[KEy21]

If God exists then why does he create recessed incels with negative canthal tilt?

Brutal pill:

He doesn’t create any recessed incels - your parents do

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Read my rec'd book son

how long is it? I'm a low attention span cel tbh

 

[LordNorwood]

how long is it? I'm a low attention span cel tbh

eh its not too bad, 300 pages maybe

 

[Blackout.xl]

eh its not too bad, 300 pages maybe

Dn rd

 

[Deleted member 4612]

eh its not too bad, 300 pages maybe

Probably won't read it soon but I'll bookmark this thread for potential future reference.

By the way, is it any specific religion it endorses? Christianity?

 

[HighIQcel]

Subhuman genetics being spread around due to religion allowing subhumans breed due to their hard work. There, I answered your question

Sub4 don't deserve to reproduce?

Brutal pill:

He doesn’t create any recessed incels - your parents do

And environmental?

 

[Blackout.xl]

Sub4 don't deserve to reproduce?

They do. But in a non religious society where there’s no enforced monogamy and sexual egalitarianism, sub 4’s simply don’t breed. They’re kicked out of the dating market and have to resort to rape (if there’s no laws that prevent them of course)

 

[Deleted member 4612]

They do. But in a non religious society where there’s no enforced monogamy and sexual egalitarianism, sub 4’s simply don’t breed. They’re kicked out of the dating market and have to resort to rape (if there’s no laws that prevent them of course)

sub4men you mean

 

[Blackout.xl]

Sub4 don't deserve to reproduce?

And environmental?

Recessed subhumans are purely genetics and environment. I’m leaning heavily towards environment because you don’t come out of the womb with a mouth breather jaw

sub4men you mean

Yes, sub 4 men only. Sub 2 women still breed with sub 6 men. The dating market historically has been fucked up.

 

[KEy21]

apparently it's a part of the "fall".

Why are some affected by it and some not, doesn't make any sense

To play devils advocate with your way of thinking (which isn’t the direction one should be going, when looking for those answers)

If him not making “X blackpiller” attractive enough to be able to pump and dump a bunch of JB’s for meaningless sex makes him evil and non existent, then I’m not sure you’re familiar with any of the commandments.

Something would tell me that giving every male a huge; wide mandible and hooded hunter eyes wasn’t at the top of his list, lol.

Thats even IF he created you, which he didn’t..your parents did, by their own decision making.

Humans have room for decisions and error in this world as a way to demonstrate their life in accordance to their loyalty to the scriptures. Hence the option to make bad decisions

Societies selfish choices made by the few at the top who control the majority - are more responsible for this culture and your life situation, than any god in a faith based religion (who has intentionally had no impact on your current lifestyle) could ever be.

 

[HighIQcel]

Recessed subhumans are purely genetics and environment. I’m leaning heavily towards environment because you don’t come out of the womb with a mouth breather jaw

Yes, sub 4 men only. Sub 2 women still breed with sub 6 men. The dating market historically has been fucked up.

How can I find out if I mouth breathed or no I don't remember, only a few moments.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

To play devils advocate with your way of thinking (which isn’t the direction one should be going, when looking for those answers)

If him not making “X blackpiller” attractive enough to be able to pump and dump a bunch of JB’s for meaningless sex makes him evil and non existent, then I’m not sure you’re familiar with any of the commandments.

Something would tell me that giving every male a huge; wide mandible and hooded hunter eyes wasn’t at the top of his list, lol.

Thats even IF he created you, which he didn’t..your parents did, by their own decision making.

Humans have room for decisions and error in this world as a way to demonstrate their life in accordance to their loyalty to the scriptures. Hence the option to make bad decisions

Societies selfish choices made by the few at the top who control the majority - are more responsible for this culture and your life situation, than any god in a faith based religion (who has intentionally had no impact on your current lifestyle) could ever be.

Omniscient free will paradox.

 

[Blackout.xl]

How can I find out if I mouth breathed or no I don't remember, only a few moments.

The classic tell tale sign of mouth breathing is a recessed maxilla

 

[Dogs]

Just because he knows what you're gonna do before you do it doesn't mean that you didn't have the free will to choose whether you wanted to do it or not in the first place. It's not a paradox at all.

 

[Blackout.xl]

Omniscient free will paradox.

I mean you can still do what you want.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Just because he knows what you're gonna do before you do it doesn't mean that you didn't have the free will to choose whether you wanted to do it or not in the first place. It's not a paradox at all.

I disagree, before the beginning of creation, God knew what was gonna happen, and then created it anyway. So he is the one causing it.

I mean you can still do what you want.

Basically in the video he says you can only do something if you "want" to do it and you can't control your "wants".

 

[Blackout.xl]

I disagree, before the beginning of creation, God knew what was gonna happen, and then created it anyway. So he is the one causing it.

He may of knew what was going to happen but he gave humans the free will to make decisions on their own with no interference.

 

[LordNorwood]

Probably won't read it soon but I'll bookmark this thread for potential future reference.

By the way, is it any specific religion it endorses? Christianity?

No, it's a competitive mythology text and doesn't endorse any religion in particular.

 

[KEy21]

Omniscient free will paradox.

They are both completely valid ideals

It’s like someone saying “How doesn’t time exist, if it says 3:30pm on my clock right now?”

God = In charge of everything

Humans = Make all the decisions

 

[Blackout.xl]

No, it's a competitive mythology text and doesn't endorse any religion in particular.

Beast

 

[Deleted member 4612]

He may of knew what was going to happen but he gave humans the free will to make decisions on their own with no interference.

No he didn't, everything that was going to happen was set in stone before it took place. That's what it means to know the future

They are both completely valid ideals

It’s like someone saying “How doesn’t time exist, if it says 3:30pm on my clock right now?”

God = In charge of everything

Humans = Make all the decisions

No, bad analogy. Humans decisions are predetermined by "God's plan" and foreknowledge

 

[KEy21]

No he didn't, everything that was going to happen was set in stone before it took place. That's what it means to know the future


No, bad analogy. Humans decisions are predetermined by "God's plan" and foreknowledge

The idea is that he’s god, he can do that simultaneously. If he created the universe, I doubt a trivial endeavor like that which is a matter of small practicalities would be too much for him to handle.

 

[Nrrr15]

Just because he knows what you're gonna do before you do it doesn't mean that you didn't have the free will to choose whether you wanted to do it or not in the first place. It's not a paradox at all.

He just knows everything but he just keeps watching you doing it and give you the freewill to do whatever the fuck you want. Animals don't have that freewill not even angels. So maybe thats why we are tested with bad genes in this short boring life.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

The idea is that he’s god, he can do that simultaneously. If he created the universe, I doubt a trivial endeavor like that which is a matter of small practicalities would be too much for him to handle.

It doesn't make logical sense.

Ever hear "Can God create a rock so big that he can't lift it over his head".

People will say that doesn't make logical sense.

The omniscient free will paradox also doesn't make logical sense

 

[KEy21]

It doesn't make logical sense.

Ever hear "Can God create a rock so big that he can't lift it over his head".

People will say that doesn't make logical sense.

The omniscient free will paradox also doesn't make logical sense

Why does human logic matter in this case and need to apply to a god?

 

[LordNorwood]

Tbh trying to analyze religion with material "logic" is autistic and missing the point

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Why does human logic matter in this case and need to apply to a god?

It's not "human" logic. It's logic in and of itself.

 

[Blackout.xl]

It's not "human" logic. It's logic in and of itself.

No. It’s purely human logic. It’s logic that humans are able to fortunate and understand. The logic a god adheres to would probably be beyond our realm of comprehension

 

[bonesoverblood]

I might get different answers here than I might at incels.is because people here are better looking, but anyway....

How could anyone believe in a religious god if they're blackpilled? There is no proof whatsoever except a book full of weird stories that have actually been disputed as not making sense (i.e. Noah's Ark). The blackpill is about accepting harsh truths and reality and it doesn't make sense for God to subject humans to such extreme torturous conditions simply because people ate a fruit. Then there's the omniscient paradox which says if God knows everything he knows what you're going to do and therefore free will can't exist. There's other arguments (PLENTY) but I'm not gonna drag this post out.

Perhaps you believe in some sort of deity, but the Abrahamic God? makes no sense.

Well.

The old testament is pretty violent and unchained.

The omnipitance problem could be like this:

• I, the creator of species x, have preprogrammed this creature to do something & die
• Since I programmed the species, I know exactly all of it's limitations.
• Therefore, I could (technically) be all-knowing, if I know the intended function. Start to finish.

The question of this paradox, assumes that humans don't have a limit.

There is a finite amount of resources, actions, and other factors that a human could achieve on this earth. It is not infinite.

So it would be impossible to have an infinite amount of combinations, with a finite amount of combination choices.

Even taking into consideration other universes, the likelihood of infinite elements is slim.

So omnipresence, could be like a machine, that takes all these factors into account, and generates every possible outcome.

Really out there in possibly, but its possible.

 

[Enlil]

I'm Satanist bro.
god is a faggot nigger.
death never exist but just a gate to another different shape of life.
nihilism kind of low iq but it makes sense for a non brainwashed normal being.

 

[Butthurt Dweller]

i personally believe that atheism is one of the first blackpills you can take, and the concept of adults believing in a jewish fantasy makes me think they are mentally on the level of me as a 12 year old when i deduced myself that there was no God, without any outside influence.