I failed to lose a single pound in the last 4 months (time to rope)

[Copexodius Maximus]

I’m at around 300lbs. I tried cutting my meals to 2 times instead of 3 times (eating the same amount in those meals as before), while replacing some of it with more protein sources. This would decrease my calories by around 30-40%. I also started going to the gym 6 times a week to lift for hypertrophy.

And what were my results? I didn’t lose a single fucking pound. Fuck this shit, I’m just going to rope and end this subhuman body’s existence at this point. There’s no point of even trying anymore when I know I’m not getting anywhere. This is the end, fuck my life. It’s ovER.

 

[HAPAgymcel]

stop eating for 24 hours and then have a Nikocado Avocado feast, repeat for weeks and see what happens

 

[HerpDerpson]

Try no carb.

 

[eduardkoopman]

It's all about bodyfat percentage.
And muscle mass.

Stop coping with. Muh weight.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

stop eating for 24 hours and then have a Nikocado Avocado feast, repeat for weeks and see what happens

I’m being serious, this is beyond brutal

Try no carb.

Tried that before. Literally have no energy in the gym.

It's all about bodyfat percentage.
And muscle mass.

Stop coping with. Muh weight.

I’m at 300lbs. My body fat percentage should be dropping much faster than muscle being added at this point. I just want to not be fat, lifting will help not destroy my metabolism when I’m skinny.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

It's all about bodyfat percentage.
And muscle mass.

Stop coping with. Muh weight.

he's 300lbs nigga

not exactly lean unless he's 7-8 fucking feet tall

 

[HAPAgymcel]

It's all about bodyfat percentage.
And muscle mass.

Stop coping with. Muh weight.

True af too, earlier this year my 40 year old overweight dad lifted 3x/week for 2 months, and then went from a 135lb Bench 1RM to 10RM, became more muscular, but stayed at the same weight. He obviously lost some fat and had a change of body composition from his looks too.

 

[HerpDerpson]

Tried that before. Literally have no energy in the gym.

You didn't eat enough fat. If rich, red meat and avocado; if poor, chew lard and butter.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

True af too, earlier this year my 40 year old overweight dad lifted 3x/week for 2 months, and then went from a 135lb Bench 1RM to 10RM, became more muscular, but stayed at the same weight. He obviously lost some fat and had a change of body composition from his looks too.

Different is he probably wasn’t 300lbs. At my weight the fat should be dropping faster than muscle being added. Unless you’re suggesting I will somehow end up at 300lbs of muscle.

You didn't eat enough fat. If rich, red meat and avocado; if poor, chew lard and butter.

It was a keto diet bro.

 

[Gandy]

Like eduard said: Your body has recomped to at least some degree if you have been lifting for 6 days a week for 4 months, no matter what kind of a brosplit abomination program you are doing at the gym.

The number on the scale means absolutely nothing. A 92kg (205 lbs) 6'0 guy can be a lot leaner and lower body fat than a 80kg (175 lbs) 6'0 guy.

Start tracking your waist size and body fat % instead of stepping on the scale. If your waist size is decreasing steadily, your body fat is going down.

 

[eduardkoopman]

he's 300lbs nigga

not exactly lean unless he's 7-8 fucking feet tall

My point was.

That this nigga in his progress.
Should be tracking mostly hia bodyfat percentage.
And not primarily his weight.

I didn't say, OP is not a fatty.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Like eduard said: Your body has recomped to at least some degree if you have been lifting for 6 days a week for 4 months, no matter what kind of a brosplit abomination program you are doing at the gym.

The number on the scale means absolutely nothing. A 92kg (205 lbs) 6'0 guy can be a lot leaner and lower body fat than a 80kg (175 lbs) 6'0 guy.

Start tracking your waist size and body fat % instead of stepping on the scale. If your waist size is decreasing steadily, your body fat is going down.

Legit yeak.

If one cannot measure bodyfat percentage.
Measure waiste circumference

 

[HerpDerpson]

Different is he probably wasn’t 300lbs. At my weight the fat should be dropping faster than muscle being added. Unless you’re suggesting I will somehow end up at 300lbs of muscle.


It was a keto diet bro.

Sacrifice muscle mass and starve if nothing works. This is the only choice for a proper lardass. You need to get out of the fat jail.
Also if you're not prone to hairloss, you can just inject trenbolone and your body will recompose the fuck out of itself, you'll gain muscle even without exercise.
A less effective, but gentler alternative is anavar.

 

[Deleted member 21084]

Sacrifice muscle mass and starve if nothing works. This is the only choice for a proper lardass. You need to get out of the fat jail.
Also if you're not prone to hairloss, you can just inject trenbolone and your body will recompose the fuck out of itself, you'll gain muscle even without exercise.
A less effective, but gentler alternative is anavar.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

My point was.

That this nigga in his progress.
Should be tracking mostly hia bodyfat percentage.
And not primarily his weight.

I didn't say, OP is not a fatty.

You do that when you're 150lb and not cutting your calories by 40%

bf% is irrelevant at that point, OP's not replacing lost fat with just as much muscle mass at 300lb

 

[Moggie]

he needs to cut the fat off before he starts thinking about a recomp just getting the weight off his joints would be good even if it compromises some of his lean mass, needs to get to at least 200lbs before thinking about a recomp, depending on his height he might need to lose more.

 

[Pumanator]

If you truely counted cal where under maintenence etc. You might need a different approach Wink wink.



Be carefull tough. Shit is deadly.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Like eduard said: Your body has recomped to at least some degree if you have been lifting for 6 days a week for 4 months, no matter what kind of a brosplit abomination program you are doing at the gym.

The number on the scale means absolutely nothing. A 92kg (205 lbs) 6'0 guy can be a lot leaner and lower body fat than a 80kg (175 lbs) 6'0 guy.

Start tracking your waist size and body fat % instead of stepping on the scale. If your waist size is decreasing steadily, your body fat is going down.

Legit yeak.

If one cannot measure bodyfat percentage.
Measure waiste circumference

Ok, I’ll start measuring my waist size from now on. If it doesn’t decrease in the next 2 months, I’ll just rope.

Sacrifice muscle mass and starve if nothing works. This is the only choice for a proper lardass. You need to get out of the fat jail.
Also if you're not prone to hairloss, you can just inject trenbolone and your body will recompose the fuck out of itself, you'll gain muscle even without exercise.
A less effective, but gentler alternative is anavar.

I guess I could try that if the waist measurement trick fails. Thank you guys.

You do that when you're 150lb and not cutting your calories by 40%

bf% is irrelevant at that point, OP's not replacing lost fat with just as much muscle mass at 300lb

Exactly, I should still be losing weight. I’ll just try the waist size cope like he said.

 

[Moggie]

Ok, I’ll start measuring my waist size from now on. If it doesn’t decrease in the next 2 months, I’ll just rope.


I guess I could try that if the waist measurement trick fails. Thank you guys.

Exactly, I should still be losing weight. I’ll just try the waist size cope like he said.

Nah unless you are a 6'6 Islander or some shit

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Wink wink.

Just burn yourself from the inside Theory

he needs to cut the fat off before he starts thinking about a recomp just getting the weight off his joints would be good even if it compromises some of his lean mass, needs to get to at least 200lbs before thinking about a recomp, depending on his height he might need to lose more.

I’m around 6’1”. What weight should I get to before thinking of recomp?

 

[wristcel]

A less effective, but gentler alternative is anavar.

nice. I was gonna ask about drugs as i'm convinced at this point my body is unique and I need drugs to lose fat.
Eating 1300 calories per day is not helping.
I will go sub 1000 soon but first i want to try drugs

Was thinkinh injecting T would help, but think i'll try this 'anavar' stuff

 

[Toth's thot]

are you londonville's alt or nah

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

are you londonville's alt or nah

Nah, I’m from the incel forum

nice. I was gonna ask about drugs as i'm convinced at this point my body is unique and I need drugs to lose fat.
Eating 1300 calories per day is not helping.
I will go sub 1000 soon but first i want to try drugs

Was thinkinh injecting T would help, but think i'll try this 'anavar' stuff

That is brutal af

 

[Moggie]

Just burn yourself from the inside Theory


I’m around 6’1”. What weight should I get to before thinking of recomp?

200 seems like a good target, could even think about it at 210 if you are exercising while you are losing weight aswell.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

I’m around 6’1”. What weight should I get to before thinking of recomp?

like 200-220lb

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

200 seems like a good target, could even think about it at 210 if you are exercising while you are losing weight aswell.

like 200-220lb

How many calories should I be eating?

 

[LooksOrDeath]

like 200-220lb

depending on frame size

 

[Deleted member 21393]

Rope might snap

 

[LooksOrDeath]

How many calories should I be eating?

try interminent fasting for 16 hours a day, eat less than 1500 cal in the intervals

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Rope might snap

floating 5 feet in the air? he would still die

 

[Matthias8272]

I’m being serious, this is beyond brutal


Tried that before. Literally have no energy in the gym.


I’m at 300lbs. My body fat percentage should be dropping much faster than muscle being added at this point. I just want to not be fat, lifting will help not destroy my metabolism when I’m skinny.

don't even need to go to the gym just eat barely anything

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

don't even need to go to the gym just eat barely anything

But muh metabolism

try interminent fasting for 16 hours a day, eat less than 1500 cal in the intervals

I’ll try that. Thanks. Should I talk to my doctor so he can help monitor me? Or will he try to discourage me?

 

[lepo2317]

Calories matters. If you eat 3k kcal in 5 meals it is the same as eating 3k in 2 meals.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

But muh metabolism


I’ll try that. Thanks. Should I talk to my doctor so he can help monitor me? Or will he try to discourage me?

Just do it. Losing weight is simple. Doctors complicate it.
Talk to the doctor if you don't make progress.

 

[Moggie]

How many calories should I be eating?

I did it for you but this dumb site is not letting me upload the screenshots I took so just fill this out.

Calorie Calculator for Weight Management

Use this calorie calculator to achieve and maintain your weight loss or weight gain goal within a realistic time frame. It calculates the daily calories and macros you need to achieve your desired weight.

www.fatcalc.com

 

[Deleted member 19551]

OP with all due respect, you're retarded, and everyone that posted on this thread

One must realize that at 300 pounds, your relationship with food is completely fucked. Your perception is skewed and should NOT be relied on. It got you where you are today. So don't try to convince me that with your leptin and insulin sensitivity issues, you managed to cut out 1/3 of your caloric intake without causing your ghrelin to rape you to oblivion with hunger


Also, lifting is the most retarded and inefficient way to lose fat, I DONT KNOW why it's paraded everywhere. 1 hour intense session of weight lifting burns about 100 calories. Considering you're 300 pounds and likely have dog shit cardiovascular endurance, you're TOPS doing 30 minutes of lifting, 30 minutes resting. AKA you're burning 250 calories per weak from lifting



You didn't beat thermodynamics, you're just not counting calories and relying on your obese person intuition



If you can, order stimulants. 4 months worth of Adderall. And you will cycle it. Combine this high dose caffeine + diet sodas + intermittent fasting. Then eat one big meal + dessert to kill the cravings and count every single thing. Or you can count calories once, memorize the food items, prep them once a week for the entire week and eat the same thing everyday if you can't count different food everyday

 

[Moggie]

OP with all due respect, you're retarded, and everyone that posted on this thread

One must realize that at 300 pounds, your relationship with food is completely fucked. Your perception is skewed and should NOT be relied on. It got you where you are today. So don't try to convince me that with your leptin and insulin sensitivity issues, you managed to cut out 1/3 of your caloric intake without causing your ghrelin to rape you to oblivion with hunger


Also, lifting is the most retarded and inefficient way to lose fat, I DONT KNOW why it's paraded everywhere. 1 hour intense session of weight lifting burns about 100 calories. Considering you're 300 pounds and likely have dog shit cardiovascular endurance, you're TOPS doing 30 minutes of lifting, 30 minutes resting. AKA you're burning 250 calories per weak from lifting



You didn't beat thermodynamics, you're just not counting calories and relying on your obese person intuition



If you can, order stimulants. 4 months worth of Adderall. And you will cycle it. Combine this high dose caffeine + diet sodas + intermittent fasting. Then eat one big meal + dessert to kill the cravings and count every single thing. Or you can count calories once, memorize the food items, prep them once a week for the entire week and eat the same thing everyday if you can't count different food everyday

Good advice bad recommendations may aswell tell him to take laxatives and diuretics.

 

[Deleted member 19551]

Good advice bad recommendations may aswell tell him to take laxatives and diuretics.

lol what? Adderall + caffeine + diet sodas MURDERS cravings. Normies take it as a party drug, low dose really isn't a big deal. But that's if OP wants a shortcut with a very high deficit. If he can sustain 500 deficit over 1 year, then by all means, he should be a good boy and take it slow but clearly it's not working for him

 

[Moggie]

lol what? Adderall + caffeine + diet sodas MURDERS cravings. Normies take it as a party drug, low dose really isn't a big deal. But that's if OP wants a shortcut with a very high deficit. If he can sustain 500 deficit over 1 year, then by all means, he should be a good boy and take it slow but clearly it's not working for him

Your right about caffeine and that weights will not burn as much calories as cardio even moderate intensity cardio will burn more and how op is not reliable at all about estimating his caloric intake just idk stimulants are the only thing I was concerned about really tbh.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Calories matters. If you eat 3k kcal in 5 meals it is the same as eating 3k in 2 meals.

I know. That’s why I said I ate the same stuff as before in those 2 meals as I would have eaten before. So totally calories will decrease.

Just do it. Losing weight is simple. Doctors complicate it.
Talk to the doctor if you don't make progress.

Alright, thanks.

I did it for you but this dumb site is not letting me upload the screenshots I took so just fill this out.

Calorie Calculator for Weight Management

Use this calorie calculator to achieve and maintain your weight loss or weight gain goal within a realistic time frame. It calculates the daily calories and macros you need to achieve your desired weight.

www.fatcalc.com

Thank you. I will try it.

OP with all due respect, you're retarded, and everyone that posted on this thread

One must realize that at 300 pounds, your relationship with food is completely fucked. Your perception is skewed and should NOT be relied on. It got you where you are today. So don't try to convince me that with your leptin and insulin sensitivity issues, you managed to cut out 1/3 of your caloric intake without causing your ghrelin to rape you to oblivion with hunger


Also, lifting is the most retarded and inefficient way to lose fat, I DONT KNOW why it's paraded everywhere. 1 hour intense session of weight lifting burns about 100 calories. Considering you're 300 pounds and likely have dog shit cardiovascular endurance, you're TOPS doing 30 minutes of lifting, 30 minutes resting. AKA you're burning 250 calories per weak from lifting



You didn't beat thermodynamics, you're just not counting calories and relying on your obese person intuition



If you can, order stimulants. 4 months worth of Adderall. And you will cycle it. Combine this high dose caffeine + diet sodas + intermittent fasting. Then eat one big meal + dessert to kill the cravings and count every single thing. Or you can count calories once, memorize the food items, prep them once a week for the entire week and eat the same thing everyday if you can't count different food everyday

I just go to sleep a bunch of times a day to cope with the hunger, but I guess you are probably right. The lifting thing is for metabolism not decreasing as I lose weight. Stimulants don’t work well with me. I get pain from drinking coffee for some reason.

 

[CometDragon]

I’m at around 300lbs. I tried cutting my meals to 2 times instead of 3 times (eating the same amount in those meals as before), while replacing some of it with more protein sources. This would decrease my calories by around 30-40%. I also started going to the gym 6 times a week to lift for hypertrophy.

And what were my results? I didn’t lose a single fucking pound. Fuck this shit, I’m just going to rope and end this subhuman body’s existence at this point. There’s no point of even trying anymore when I know I’m not getting anywhere. This is the end, fuck my life. It’s ovER.

You simply weren't tracking your calories as well as you thought you were. If you aren't losing weight you just need to eat less. If you're scared of hunger from cutting down even further consider something like wegovy.

You can do this.

 

[Moggie]

I just go to sleep a bunch of times a day to cope with the hunger, but I guess you are probably right. The lifting thing is for metabolism not decreasing as I lose weight. Stimulants don’t work well with me. I get pain from drinking coffee for some reason.

I thought lifting would be for taxing the central nervous system meme tbh. Metabolism is cope. You might be a slow caffeine metaboliser.

 

[Deleted member 19551]

Your right about caffeine and that weights will not burn as much calories as cardio even moderate intensity cardio will burn more and how op is not reliable at all about estimating his caloric intake just idk stimulants are the only thing I was concerned about really tbh.

With Adderall + caffeine he would be able to power through a 1000+ deficit. At this level of obesity, you can afford up to 1500 deficit without risking muscle loss. It will take him forever if he does 500 slow and steady, and he doesn't have the discipline clearly for calorie counting

 

[Deleted member 19551]

I know. That’s why I said I ate the same stuff as before in those 2 meals as I would have eaten before. So totally calories will decrease.


Alright, thanks.


Thank you. I will try it.


I just go to sleep a bunch of times a day to cope with the hunger, but I guess you are probably right. The lifting thing is for metabolism not decreasing as I lose weight. Stimulants don’t work well with me. I get pain from drinking coffee for some reason.

Lifting doesn't raise your metabolism in any significant sense. For every pound of muscle gained, your TDEE increases 10 calories. This is one of the biggest misconceptions. Stop lifting. You're spiking your cortisol for no reason which causes hunger spikes. Do cardio or no exercise

 

[Moggie]

With Adderall + caffeine he would be able to power through a 1000+ deficit. At this level of obesity, you can afford up to 1500 deficit without risking muscle loss. It will take him forever if he does 500 slow and steady, and he doesn't have the discipline clearly for calorie counting

The calculator wants him to be at 2598 calories a day for a deficit from the beginning of 1700 (I said he was 'moderately' active), I do not know if the calculator takes into account how this will shift as he loses weight his basal metabolic rate and tdee will change.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

You simply weren't tracking your calories as well as you thought you were. If you aren't losing weight you just need to eat less. If you're scared of hunger from cutting down even further consider something like wegovy.

You can do this.

I didn’t track calories. I just ate the same as before, but removed 1 of the meals I ate in the day. I just assumed that would cut the calories by 1/3.

Lifting doesn't raise your metabolism in any significant sense. For every pound of muscle gained, your TDEE increases 10 calories. This is one of the biggest misconceptions. Stop lifting. You're spiking your cortisol for no reason which causes hunger spikes. Do cardio or no exercise

I just checked an online calculator that said if I walk 10 thousand steps, it will burn around 750 calories. Seems way easier to add this as cardio for calories compared to lifting to lose 100 calories and be able to eat 150 more calories after a year at max jfl.

 

[Deleted member 19551]

I didn’t track calories. I just ate the same as before, but removed 1 of the meals I ate in the day. I just assumed that would cut the calories by 1/3.


I just checked an online calculator that said if I walk 10 thousand steps, it will burn around 750 calories. Seems way easier to add this as cardio for calories compared to lifting to lose 100 calories and be able to eat 150 more calories after a year at max jfl.

Walking is the absolute best most sustainable cardio ever. Running or HIIT is a joke that will kill your joints if you're not already fit

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Walking is the absolute best most sustainable cardio ever. Running or HIIT is a joke that will kill your joints if you're not already fit

I’ll think I’ll stick to that for now then. HIIT literally used to hurt my feet.

 

[Wallenberg]

You ate too much.

If you eat fewer calories than your body needs, you will lose fat over a long time period. It's a fact.

Track your calories. Everything. Include liquids apart from water. They add up too.

 

[JamesHowlett]

@Copexodius Maximus

I guarantee you weren’t consistent or weren’t counting your calories properly.

Would be physically impossible to not lose weight at 300 pounds if you were truly in a caloric deficit.