I had modified Orbital Box Osteotomy and Implants by Surgerymax. AMA

[diditeverbegin]

it can if your ipd is alerted a lot, not my a single molecule

yeah I spent 30k to go from .95 to 1 mfr, why do dalits like this have money would’ve been better off with implants for his lower third like @itzyaboyJJ said

 

[xnj]

yeah I spent 30k to go from .95 to 1 mfr, why do dalits like this have money would’ve been better off with implants for his lower third like @itzyaboyJJ said

its like clavicular going for bimax to ELONGATE his midface because even though its within ideal range already, it would be “more optimal” if its narrower

 

[diditeverbegin]

its like clavicular going for bimax to ELONGATE his midface because even though its within ideal range already, it would be “more optimal” if its narrower

Ikr this guy had ideal before and is an aspiring dolphin i guess

 

[xnj]

Ikr this guy had ideal before and is an aspiring dolphin i guess

i mean maybe his eye separation was a bit clops but zygos compensated for that .46, so he wanted to clean it up a bit

 

[xnj]

its like clavicular going for bimax to ELONGATE his midface because even though its within ideal range already, it would be “more optimal” if its narrower

@itzyaboyJJ @diditeverbegin
bro saw this and went “ts fye”

people like this should just have their money confiscated and donated to charity (to fund some poor disabled kiddo’s medical obo)

 

[diditeverbegin]

i mean maybe his eye separation was a bit clops but zygos compensated for that .46, so he wanted to clean it up a bit

.46 is still good imo, I guess I would have to actually see him, but utter retardation to get a brutal surgery like obo when your flaws in in the lower third. Long midface can look high class and I don’t think it was that long

 

[xnj]

.46 is still good imo, I guess I would have to actually see him, but utter retardation to get a brutal surgery like obo when your flaws in in the lower third. Long midface can look high class and I don’t think it was that long

.46 is within ideal range btw, so is .95 mfr (if not maybe .01 off)

 

[diditeverbegin]

.46 is within ideal range btw, so is .95 mfr (if not maybe .01 off)

Yea, there’s no point blowing money on surgery just to go from .95 to 1.0 when a wider jaw and chin would have also made his face better

 

[moze]

Imagine getting this meme surgery when u could’ve got jaw chin implants and a rhino and become a chad, fucking idiot

Fr fr no one cared about ipd until giant made a post about it

 

[esoterik]

He’s a idiot like a mentioned before he could’ve got chin jaw implants and rhino and boom chad.

ya im sure all you need to be chad is jaw implants

 

[itzyaboyJJ]

ya im sure all you need to be chad is jaw implants

Jaw chin and rhino read again, nigger.

 

[esoterik]

Jaw chin and rhino read again, nigger.

u dont know what supras are so why do u genuinely think it only takes 3 features to become a chad?

 

[itzyaboyJJ]

u dont know what supras are so why do u genuinely think it only takes 3 features to become a chad?

Lower third is law lil bro, eye area is easy to soft maxx since it’s just hair that carries it, and most have bad fat or hooked noses .

 

[Esteban1997]

I need OBO aswell but im kinda afraid of the surgery..

 

[Edgarpill]

ya im sure all you need to be chad is jaw implants

Cope your guy in your avi is gay btw

 

[Angutoid]

I need OBO aswell but im kinda afraid of the surgery..

You wont feel anything esteban

 

[aestheticsrespecter]

Cope your guy in your avi is gay btw

stfu faggot ur probs brown

 

[subcel45]

Kewl

 

[Edgarpill]

stfu faggot ur probs brown

why are you mad at me calling Nick Fuentes gay? Are you gay?

 

[5’6 Darktriad]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

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View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


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Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


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Designer:

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https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

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https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

Hey man, mirin the after hope u get will soon

Hope that i can pm cause i need the same surgrey for my orbital and temporal area

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

7mm of IPD widening would shorten your MFR way more than just 0.05 points. The measurements don't make sense, did you measure correctly before?

 

[puffer234234]

No pics? The links are broken bro

 

[afroheadluke]

 

[Feetman1]

kys grey or feetmaxx

 

[Chowdog]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

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View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


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Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


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Designer:

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https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

 

[bizzzz]

Fuck man, scariest shit,the extreme levels a loooksmaxxer can go on is Insane

 

[RapeAllFemales]

Fuck man, scariest shit,the extreme levels a loooksmaxxer can go on is Insane

Why crazy? If his bad midface ratio or his close set eyes were not allowing him to have a normal life then it is right that he had surgery

 

[bizzzz]

Why crazy? If his bad midface ratio or his close set eyes were not allowing him to have a normal life then it is right that he had surgery

Yeah I understand, but reality hit me hard on this, I just thought I was casually softmaxxing, but now look at which site I’ve ended up on and how deep I’ve dived into this.

 

[Acquiescence]

Yeah I understand, but reality hit me hard on this, I just thought I was casually softmaxxing, but now look at which site I’ve ended up on and how deep I’ve dived into this.

Crazy how deep and transformative the rabbit hole goes eh? I went from laughing at a low effort pepe lookism meme I stumbled across on reddit years ago, to reorienting my entire life goals towards getting surgery in the present day.

I still re-read this thread and Cosmic’s on the reg. Hoping to join these OBO legends myself next year

 

[bizzzz]

Crazy how deep and transformative the rabbit hole goes eh? I went from laughing at a low effort pepe lookism meme I stumbled across on reddit years ago, to reorienting my entire life goals towards getting surgery in the present day.

I still re-read this thread and Cosmic’s on the reg. Hoping to join these OBO legends myself next year

Damn okay, so you're really thinking about surgery? This is where realization hits so fucking hard, Istg,But tbh, don't you think that most people only go for such major surgeries when they have some major flaw or a big facial deformity? Also, how old are you?

 

[Acquiescence]

Damn okay, so you're really thinking about surgery?

Absolutley. In fact, I just got out of a minor surgery earlier today (got my wisdoms pulled), partly for strictly medical reasons, partly in preparation for likely future jaw surgery.

This is where realization hits so fucking hard, Istg

Welcome to the club

But tbh, don't you think that most people only go for such major surgeries when they have some major flaw or a big facial deformity?

For normies yea. But for surgerypilled looksmaxxers, we’re often a little more, ah, special. So there’s plenty of MTN+ guys going for more.

Also, how old are you?

23. But if everything goes to plan and I’m surgery ready by summer 2026, I’ll be 25 when I get my orbits Robloxed

 

[bizzzz]

Absolutley. In fact, I just got out of a minor surgery earlier today (got my wisdoms pulled), partly for strictly medical reasons, partly in preparation for likely future jaw surgery.

Welcome to the club

For normies yea. But for surgerypilled looksmaxxers, we’re often a little more, ah, special. So there’s plenty of MTN+ guys going for more.

23. But if everything goes to plan and I’m surgery ready by summer 2026, I’ll be 25 when I get my orbits Robloxed

Alright I'm gonna pm you rn

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

No pics? The links are broken bro

He said he's not posting pics untill he gets all the surgeries he plans on getting

 

[Joe7]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747



View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778

Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747



View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778

Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


View attachment 2679823View attachment 2679789





Designer:

View attachment 2679761
https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

If you got all these Implants, why would you want bimax?

If I have skeletal assymetry and recessed maxilla, instead of bimax, can't I just use implants?

 

[juliusorg]

It was about 30k usd including everything (Design, titanium implant manufacturing, surgery, hospital stay etc.)

Next up is bimax, genio and jaw angle implants. But, I’m also planning on getting a few soft tissue adjustments and potentially limb lengthening in the future.

Yes, the surgery was quite long by it

No, Giant produced the entire plan before I came to contact with the surgeon, although now that his partnership is well established the surgeon's assistant might be doing some of the preliminary work in terms of arrangements and prioritization. I think you should listen to Giant and ask him how to about this, if you already contacted him and he told you to speak with the surgeon's assistant, do that.

not worth it

 

[LongForgotten]

Fuck you

 

[AscensionMan98]

It was about 30k usd including everything (Design, titanium implant manufacturing, surgery, hospital stay etc.)

Next up is bimax, genio and jaw angle implants. But, I’m also planning on getting a few soft tissue adjustments and potentially limb lengthening in the future.

Yes, the surgery was quite long by itself, it would be too dangerous to combine the two.

Expensive considering its turkey, but a lot more reasonable then europe or america coastwise for the same procedures. How much was the quotes for bimah and genio? , and have you noticed more IOI post surgery and improvements/changes in your dating/sex life ?

 

[quantitativePSL]

U

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747



View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778

Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


View attachment 2679823View attachment 2679789





Designer:

View attachment 2679761
https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

Update?

 

[RapeAllFemales]

It’s truly amazing what you did, i have a long pfl with decent supras and I just need more intercantal distance and interpupillary distance for a good periorbital contour, i can get this only with obo

Do you think the strabismus is gone completely? Even if it was, it doesn't matter wide set croos eyed mogs close set normal eyes with no strabismus

 

[everyone]

It’s truly amazing what you did, i have a long pfl with decent supras and I just need more intercantal distance and interpupillary distance for a good periorbital contour, i can get this only with obo

Do you think the strabismus is gone completely? Even if it was, it doesn't matter wide set croos eyed mogs close set normal eyes with no strabismus

for ICD possibly a Medial Z Plasty, that's what I know but for IPD you need OBO