I had modified Orbital Box Osteotomy and Implants by Surgerymax. AMA

[WeiWei]

Damn dude you're crazy for getting it. Post results. Also where did you get the money from? And what race and ethnicity are you?

 

[WeiWei]

OBO can make easy closer not wider right?

No, OBO is for when your eyes are way too close together. Like this ugly loser hookermaxxer

 

[italianmaxxer]

No, OBO is for when your eyes are way too close together. Like this ugly loser hookermaxxer

internet is retarded it actually says the opposite

 

[Bart]

OBO can make easy closer not wider right?

It can be used for both however it's mostly used for setting them wider

 

[Pakicel]

It's fucking over I was hoping Giant could easily solve one of the ugliest failures which is the low ipd, but at this point I have to go to Derek Steinbacher and risk it like cosmic did with a high probability of being botched

If you plan to @RapeAllFemales, why are you getting OBO?

 

[Surgerymaxxer1998]

Op is constantly lurking without replying lmao, op if you see this u dumb af I can already tell the intercanthal distance would be retarded tier like cosmicmaxxer

 

[Pakicel]

Op is constantly lurking without replying lmao, op if you see this u dumb af I can already tell the intercanthal distance would be retarded tier like cosmicmaxxer

Yup. IPD is only one of the factors that influences the perceived spacing of your eyes. OP prolly needs tripod to increase his PFL as well.

 

[RapeAllFemales]

If you plan to @RapeAllFemales, why are you getting OBO?

Wide ipd is more dominant if i fail the surgery I plan to geomaxx to a third world country like venezuela and rape some latinas

 

[RapeAllFemales]

@Ape101 are you still going to do limb lengthening? If you do and don't update us it will be disrespectful since you will be on the hospital bed for the next few months

 

[xuzky]

why @ then

you asked about it earlier when I showed you a photo

 

[SubhumanityForce]

Yeah fuck that, I don't trust giant one bit icl

@RealSurgerymax do you have anything to add?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

@RealSurgerymax do you have anything to add?

Nope. Just shit talk & situationally unaware tactics to get b/a's when they would have a meltdown if their own pics got leaked.

 

[RapeAllFemales]

Nope. Just shit talk & situationally unaware tactics to get b/a's when they would have a meltdown if their own pics got leaked.

You are far too optimistic and that is suspicious nigger

I'd rather go to Eppley and have my skull cracked open than have a fucking faggot with no credentials design implants for me

 

[RealSurgerymax]

You are far too optimistic and that is suspicious nigger

I'd rather go to Eppley and have my skull cracked open than have a fucking faggot with no credentials design implants for me

*Literally invented the modification*
(and a few medical devices)

*Literally #1 in experience & the first private designer to exist*

You can go wherever you want though... Oh except I own the no-craniotomy OBO modification with a utility patent pending on the guide necessary...

 

[sb23]

*Literally invented the modification*
(and a few medical devices)

*Literally #1 in experience & the first private designer to exist*

You can go wherever you want though... Oh except I own the no-craniotomy OBO modification with a utility patent pending on the guide necessary...

Wait are you giant implants? Not updated on any of the lore.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Wait are you giant implants? Not updated on any of the lore.

Yep Im the proud owner.

 

[Codeinlover]

*Literally invented the modification*
(and a few medical devices)

*Literally #1 in experience & the first private designer to exist*

You can go wherever you want though... Oh except I own the no-craniotomy OBO modification with a utility patent pending on the guide necessary...

 

[Codeinlover]

Yep Im the proud owner.

I heard obo rotates the orbits which makes the zygos high set ?

 

[sb23]

Yep Im the proud owner.

Ok remember my username. I will sacrifice years of my life for you to cut my face open

 

[Codeinlover]

Yep Im the proud owner.

Can z-plasty increase the medial canthus length and there fire give u more pfl

 

[RealSurgerymax]

I heard obo rotates the orbits which makes the zygos high set ?

Can potentially be rotated but not the norm or standard way.

Can z-plasty increase the medial canthus length and there fire give u more pfl

Yes with high risks of bad scarring

Now we are pulling the medial canthus closer to (or into) the bone with a modified transnasal wire medial canthopexy.

 

[Codeinlover]

Can potentially be rotated but not the norm or standard way.


Yes with high risks of bad scarring

Now we are pulling the medial canthus closer to the bone with a modified transnasal wire medial canthopexy.

It’s just begun also @CosmicMaxxer said that his obo rotated his orbits or some shit like that and it made his zygos higher set and more pct

Also always remember me I am number giant implants fan and am willing to sacrifice my life for giant implants

 

[esoterik]

It’s just begun also @CosmicMaxxer said that his obo rotated his orbits or some shit like that and it made his zygos higher set and more pct

Also always remember me I am number giant implants fan and am willing to sacrifice my life for giant implants

what are your goals? ive seen your face, what group of females do you want to appeal to? to most groups of girls the roi of that is low

 

[Codeinlover]

what are your goals? ive seen your face, what group of females do you want to appeal to? to most groups of girls the roi of that is low

Yo could we dm

 

[Codeinlover]

Can potentially be rotated but not the norm or standard way.


Yes with high risks of bad scarring

Now we are pulling the medial canthus closer to (or into) the bone with a modified transnasal wire medial canthopexy.

Lacrimal bone ?

 

[Delissola]

Who gonna get LL surgery in future?And how much do you wanna get taller?

 

[Clark]

How much does this cost?

What else are you planning in your surgery journey?

Is it too much to get bimax at the same time? I’m guessing yes.

You're getting aids with that "slay count"

 

[RapeAllFemales]

@Ape101 what do you think of this OBO results?

 

[ER enjoyer]

@Ape101 what do you think of this OBO results?
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Bro ascended to heaven

 

[Anchor_Ship]

How did u raise the money

 

[cyprian_tomaszewski]

@Ape101 what do you think of this OBO results?
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Bro ascended to heaven

sarcasm, right? you guys know this is not a real result?

@SubhumanForever

 

[selfhating ethnic]

where are the results

 

[BananaBoy]

Billions must die before I get this procedure

 

[SubhumanityForce]

Can potentially be rotated but not the norm or standard way.


Yes with high risks of bad scarring

Now we are pulling the medial canthus closer to (or into) the bone with a modified transnasal wire medial canthopexy.

OK so instead of rotating, can you cut the outer half of the orbit and just move it upwards? Just a linear upward motion, no rotation involved. In theory, would that be OK and if I understand, would that give you a PCT without the need of canthopexy?
@RealSurgerymax

 

[RealSurgerymax]

OK so instead of rotating, can you cut the outer half of the orbit and just move it upwards? Just a linear upward motion, no rotation involved. In theory, would that be OK and if I understand, would that give you a PCT without the need of canthopexy?
@RealSurgerymax

Why do a 20x bigger surgery just to get PCT?

 

[SubhumanityForce]

Why do a 20x bigger surgery just to get PCT?

Because it's not just for PCT. It's to save this melting face effect and get rid of this downward outer part of supra orbital bone which also limits how high the upper eyelid can open, I think you understand what i mean. Also left side zygo sits lower than right. I know this doesn't address the root of the zygo arch, but it addresses the downward curve of the supra orbital, and the vertical position of the zygomstic process of the maxilla, I guess. Ideally, it would be great for tha block to be moved up, outwards and a bit forwards.

 

[SubhumanityForce]

Because it's not just for PCT. It's to save this melting face effect and get rid of this downward outer part of supra orbital bone which also limits how high the upper eyelid can open, I think you understand what i mean. Also left side zygo sits lower than right. I know this doesn't address the root of the zygo arch, but it addresses the downward curve of the supra orbital, and the vertical position of the zygomstic process of the maxilla, I guess. Ideally, it would be great for tha block to be moved up, outwards and a bit forwards.

An I missing something? @RealSurgerymax

 

[Chowdog]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

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Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






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All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


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Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


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Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


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Designer:

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https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

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https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

 

[futtigo]

Feel free to ask any questions.

How Long is the healing process and what Are the cost ?

 

[kal0382]

I mean you'd be surprised by how high inhib I'm with women compared to getting surgeries. I haven't attempted to approach many but a break up after a ltr affected me seriously.

How much do u think it would cost all jaw implants (chin, gonions)

 

[cc_7373]

Yep Im the proud owner.

Wait what fr?

 

[sub5pslathlete]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

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View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


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Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


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Designer:

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https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

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https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

U look like fucking shit

 

[hekch]

absolute insanity. did you also get bimax yet?

 

[hekch]

I mean you'd be surprised by how high inhib I'm with women compared to getting surgeries. I haven't attempted to approach many but a break up after a ltr affected me seriously.

how were you abelt to get an LTR without surgery? not tryna be rude, just curious

 

[hekch]

What do you non-aesthetic surgeons?

Isn’t Taban aesthetically focused?

i won't do taban. there was a guy who had his life ruined with him.

 

[hekch]

The surgeon can impact the maxilla during LF1, for example to fix a gummy smile, and that should indeed shorten philtrum length and overall midface length a little bit.

that's called maxillary impaction right?

 

[hekch]

Suspected that; although he claims he works all the time even during vacation lol.
Yesterday he posted update on his Lefort 2 case with skull, malar,supra etc. implants.
I also found one of his results on reddit
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pm

 

[itsover22372237]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747



View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778

Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


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Designer:

View attachment 2679761
https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

how did you reach out to get this surgery? just instagram?

 

[NewJawSzn]

Bro how do I book in with Dr Burak Sercan Ercin

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747



View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778

Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


View attachment 2679823View attachment 2679789





Designer:

View attachment 2679761
https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

@Giorgio