I had modified Orbital Box Osteotomy and Implants by Surgerymax. AMA

[Deleted member 50702]

takes some balls to do all that

wishing a speedy recovery

Op will scar

 

[User28823]

Op will scar

shouldve used verteporfin

 

[ElTruecel]

bruh

 

[PrimoMaxxer]

The risk is similar. If don't think this is hardcore then which surgery is?

What makes you think the risk is similar? You're the only person that has got this surgery right, so not a big sample size to base risk on.
Regardless major respect.

 

[gigell]

Only og greys do this type of stuff

Mirin

 

[Deleted member 52433]

You've got some balls, I'll give you that. Keen to see the results whenever the swollen is gone.

This one will go down in history for sure...

 

[cyprian_tomaszewski]

Yes, although this is what typically happens with supraorbital implants, it was ensured by anchoring the eyebrows to the supraorbital implants.

I look quite different, but like a better grown version of myself. My parents can still recognise me, for now

What was your parents reaction to you getting this surgery? I imagine they wouldn't be very happy

Generally the rule is not to tell about your looksmaxxing but in this case you must have told them since it's such an obvious change, right?

 

[Delikate2900]

please dont be like a botched retard like him, getting from non-aesthetic surgeons and spending 600k to look the same

also good fucking job, im proud of you. if your going to be a hardcore hardmaxxer please actually change how you look, @CosmicMaxxer's case gives me suifuel cause his harmony did not change at all, his dating pool stayed the same

do you have the before and after pics?

 

[Matthias8272]

Only og greys do this type of stuff

Mirin

2022 is OG? Or is he from lookism?

 

[Ape101]

Also, are Dr celal and Dr ercin connected? When did it change from one to the other?

They’re not connected, Giant reached out and initially they both agreed to perform it.

Wait did Candirli help with this surgery at all?

No

I actually meant Dr. Serdar but whatever

Serdar is Dr.Celal’s assistant

 

[Ape101]

Amazing thread - thanks a million fir answering these questions. I hope your recovery goes phenomenally and that the results are everything you hope for. I really appreciate you answering these questions since most are extremely hesitant to talk about their surgeries once they get them.

How tall is Liam anyway? He always looks like a giant (lol) in all his pics.

Thank you for the kind words. Liam is tall, 6’2-6’3

 

[Ape101]

Op will scar

My hair density makes the coronal scar barely noticeable now that it has grown a little, but I’m planning to get a hair transplant to completely cover it eventually, other than that the scars are intraoral so they can’t be seen.

 

[Ape101]

What makes you think the risk is similar? You're the only person that has got this surgery right, so not a big sample size to base risk on.
Regardless major respect.

Thank you.

Regular obo has been performed plenty of times, the overwhelming majority of the complications arise from the brain being exposed, so logically by avoiding this the risk gets reduced significantly. Additionally, aesthetic obo movements are smaller and thus more stable and are performed on healthy individuals unlike regular obo. Lastly there are other security measures put into place through Liam’s planning.

 

[Ape101]

What was your parents reaction to you getting this surgery? I imagine they wouldn't be very happy

Generally the rule is not to tell about your looksmaxxing but in this case you must have told them since it's such an obvious change, right?

Let’s just say it wasn’t positive…

 

[Corleone]

Next up is bimax, genio and jaw angle implants. But, I’m also planning on getting a few soft tissue adjustments and potentially limb lengthening in the future.

good stuff. but maybe consider stopping while you're ahead, as to not turn yourself into a cripple-maxxer like this guy.

 

[Deleted member 32196]

Insane what modern society and women’s rights forces us to do. Major respect.

 

[pleasuremaxxing]

Lot of money but worth it

 

[dragomaxxer]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

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Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


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Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


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Designer:

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https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

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https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

how did you afford this you seem quite young too, mirin effort goodluck on your journey

 

[Lorsss]

I am amazed by your commitment, I wish you get well soon

 

[Ape101]

I am amazed by your commitment, I wish you get well soon

Thank you!

 

[okwhatlol]

Thank you!

tell this nibba giant to hurry up and get the website up and running. I need a lefort 2 with obo RN.

 

[devonhendryx999]

Giant is making history holy shit

 

[LongForgotten]

How did your parents/family/friends think about it?

I wanna get it done to fix my low ipd caused by 1 of my eyes being closer set than the other, 1 is also higher than the other. But fuck man there's no way I could do this without my girlfriend thinking I'm fucked in the head

 

[LongForgotten]

I have to say though, congratulations. I wish you the best recovery and results. I've been dreaming about this for atleast 2 years

 

[Ape101]

How did your parents/family/friends think about it?

I wanna get it done to fix my low ipd caused by 1 of my eyes being closer set than the other, 1 is also higher than the other. But fuck man there's no way I could do this without my girlfriend thinking I'm fucked in the head

My parents initially reacted negatively. But you are the one that has to live with this issue, stop caring about what a few people think and invest in yourself. Most people won’t even realise or care ,the ones who are close to you and will are going to accept the new version of yourself if they love you.

 

[mogstars]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

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View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778

Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


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Designer:

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https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

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https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

Get rated again when not swollen

Thanks for sharing ,I need this exact surgery

 

[depressionmaxxing]

The Industrial Revolution and it‘s consequences innit.

Mirin hard, there should be a hall of fame list of all the real looksmaxers.

Q: How much did the planning alone from giant cost?
Excluding the costs for making an CT and 3D Visuals; just the cost for the planning skills.

 

[Oxygen]

Q: How much did the planning alone from giant cost?
Excluding the costs for making an CT and 3D Visuals; just the cost for the planning skills.

Seconding this question. Also what scans did you need to send to giant?

 

[smashingdirty6s]

in the sense of more than just obo, i want to see someone reconstruct their harmony, obo is a amazing start tho as its actually changing harmony

I will be the pioneer

 

[esoterik]

I will be the pioneer

nope nigga already have tripod ost modified lf3 & 7 other life threatening surgeries booked, wait in

 

[Codeinlover]

I will be the pioneer

Same lefort III +Obo +chin implant

 

[Tr0ubLe]

Through a business that I've grown in the past 2 years.

Give tips n tricks

 

[chadintraining]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747



View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778

Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


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Designer:

View attachment 2679761
https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

One of the very few on this forum to actually do something like this

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

So happy for you for ascending, Bhai.

 

[soover4me]

mirin
good luck with the recovery bro

 

[Unhuman]

Hello everyone! I am a long time lurker on .org and a dedicated hardmaxxer - some of you might know me as monke from looksmax related group chats. I’m here to discuss the planning, share my personal experience, and answer questions regarding the whole process of the modified Orbital Box Osteotomy combined with orbital implants I had. Feel free to ask any questions.

View attachment 2679696View attachment 2679745View attachment 2679746View attachment 2679722View attachment 2679747



View attachment 2679860
Original stats:
• 62mm IPD
• 0.46 ESR
• 31mm ICD
•135mm bizygomatic width
• 0.95 Midface Ratio
• Narrow looking intercanthal-nasal area
• Rated as MTN

Main aesthetic concerns:
• Long midface
• Narrow face
• Narrow intercanthal-nasal area

Stats after surgery:
• 69mm IPD
• 0.47 ESR
• 35 mm ICD
• 147mm bizygomatic width
• Spacious intercanthal-nasal area
• 1.0 Midface Ratio
• Rating: too swollen to be rated yet






View attachment 2679699

All ratios are secondary to IPD and ICD; the OBO essentially reset my foundation, serving as the necessary groundwork for lateral expansion across my entire face. Think of it as bimax but for the lateral growth instead of forward. It significantly enhanced my midface ratio, shortening the perceived length, aided by the supraorbital dropdown applied to the implant design, which shortened my nose and lowered my eyebrows.

View attachment 2679753

Additionally, as you might have noticed the increase in IPD is not equal to the increase in ICD, which was achieved through a combination of obo with medial orbital wall implants, which was done in order to achieve the ideal increase for both metrics. Effectively all my aesthetic concerns were addressed without any fear for severe complications, as the OBO was done subcranially (without exposing the brain). While there are more details, I’d rather not make the initial post too technical. You can feel free to ask for specifics.


View attachment 2679773View attachment 2679629

Credits to @RealSurgerymax, the designer and inventor behind many modifications, who assisted during the surgery, and to Dr. Burak Ercin, the surgeon. The procedure was a complete success, confirmed by post-op CT scans. It involved a manageable recovery, probably comparable to that of bimax. I had minimal pain but a lot of swelling in the initial week. Double vision (expected due to IPD adjustment) was fully resolved within a month. I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks. The only lingering complication is minor strabismus, which I plan to correct surgically soon.


View attachment 2679777View attachment 2679778

Overall, I’m incredibly satisfied with the experience and results, though I’ve yet to see the final outcome due to swelling. Huge thanks to Surgerymax for revolutionizing hardmaxxing and Dr. Ercin for executing the plan successfully. Special thanks to (you know who you are) for the support throughout the journey.


I’m currently sharing only procedure photos on Giant’s page, withholding before/after pictures until I complete my surgical journey in a few years.


We are all gonna make it.
Thanks for reading.


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Designer:

View attachment 2679761
https://www.instagram.com/surgerymax.cmf?igsh=MTE3NzJiZmFkemhtYw==

Surgeon:

View attachment 2679762
https://www.instagram.com/buraksercanercin?igsh=bml4amo1ZnY0ZzJ4


OBO edit:

Does giant know how to fix under eye exposure + NCT eyes? I might have to consult with him if he does.

 

[gravlek]

@Loveland nog niet ophangen!!

 

[Loveland]

@Loveland nog niet ophangen!!

Omw OBO

 

[gravlek]

Omw OBO

Chad to be

 

[T_T]

Since you implanted your supraorbitals and made it wider did your eyebrows increase in length due to being more forward facing on a wider orbital?
this is what i mean by it

like do the eyebrows extend further to temple like this

 

[HerpDerpson]

I spent a week in the hospital for extended IV antibiotics, minimizing infection risks

Oh, that's fucking brutal, you killed so many of your cells (as the name literally means "against life"). I wonder if you can get out of it, like with pills you can just pretend to swallow them, but IV?
In any case, good job, I just hope you don't end up like Cosmic.

 

[ineonx]

Mirin’ You have balls of steel man, wishing you a speedy recovery bro

 

[WhiteGoodman]

Once again proving that greycels are the true looksmaxxers.

 

[goatedjordan23]

please dont be like a botched retard like him, getting from non-aesthetic surgeons and spending 600k to look the same

also good fucking job, im proud of you. if your going to be a hardcore hardmaxxer please actually change how you look, @CosmicMaxxer's case gives me suifuel cause his harmony did not change at all, his dating pool stayed the same

send pics of him

 

[goatedjordan23]

Oh, that's fucking brutal, you killed so many of your cells (as the name literally means "against life"). I wonder if you can get out of it, like with pills you can just pretend to swallow them, but IV?
In any case, good job, I just hope you don't end up like Cosmic.

what happened to cosmic do you have pics?

 

[HerpDerpson]

what happened to cosmic do you have pics?

Nothing horrible happened, he just doesn't look good even after all that.

 

[Pakicel]

what happened to cosmic do you have pics?

Looks shit after 700k of surgeries.

 

[goatedjordan23]

Looks shit after 700k of surgeries.

send pics

 

[Ape101]

The Industrial Revolution and it‘s consequences innit

Mirin hard, there should be a hall of fame list of all the real looksmaxers.

Thank you

Q: How much did the planning alone from giant cost?
Excluding the costs for making an CT and 3D Visuals; just the cost for the planning skills.

I’m not certain I remember correctly, but it should be around 3k.

 

[Ape101]

Since you implanted your supraorbitals and made it wider did your eyebrows increase in length due to being more forward facing on a wider orbital?
this is what i mean by it
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like do the eyebrows extend further to temple like this
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Yes