I have used 2mm dermapen now with retinol on my whole face

[Deleted member 22354]

I used a head with 36 needles. Retinol applied beforehand as the active ingredient and then jojoba oil in combination with castor oil applied to damp skin afterwards. I left out only the under eyes area.

It was neither painful nor did it bleed except for a few spots. Now my face is red (but not too much) and my skin burns/twitches slightly. From experience, my skin will now come off easily and renew itself over the next few days.

Since I've done laser skin resurfacing before (years ago i mean) for scar removal, it's not comparable. The laser treatment was much more intense and the skin was redder and "swollen".

Therefore, I do not understand the fear of some users here from 2mm. Will try 3mm next month maybe

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

Will try 3mm next month maybe

nah that's pussy tier why not jump straight to 4mm for the ultimate gains

 

[Deleted member 22354]

nah that's pussy tier why not jump straight to 4mm for the ultimate gains

My dermapen only goes up to 3mm, unfortunately.

Edit: I just looked at it again, 2.5mm is maximum

 

[igbekele007]

you can add dermapen needles in series. Attach them to each other to run it for 10mm. You will also stimulate your maxilla and mandible to grow alongside collagenmaxxing.

 

[Avirochad]

Your iq is monkey-tier if you put a topical retinoid onto your skin directly prior to microneedling. You are needling a high dose of vitamin A directly into your bloodstream. Your risk of developing hypervitaminosis A (cancer, neurotoxicity, liver and kidney damage) is greatly increased + A vitamins are fat-soluble so by the time you notice symptoms it's over.

 

[Deleted member 22354]

You are needling a high dose of vitamin A directly into your bloodstream. Your risk of developing hypervitaminosis A (cancer, neurotoxicity, liver and kidney damage) is greatly increased + A vitamins are fat-soluble so by the time you notice symptoms it's over.

Retinol or tret is bullshit in my eyes, just wanted to give it a try and document changes in comparison to blood. Blood is much much more effective I can already say now, retinol does nothing even at 2mm. I usually use my own blood. Will try PRP next time with 2.5mm.

hypervitaminosis A

This is nearly impossible lets be real. It is true that this is possible through synthetic vitamin A like the product I used, BUT I only used about 3000μg retinol so 10000 IU vitamin a. The danger for hypervitaminosis A exists in studies only from an amount of 25000 IU synthetic vitamin A. Unless you supplement 25k IU vitamin A, this will not happen.

 

[Eezz]

Whats your dermapen ?

 

[Deleted member 22354]

Whats your dermapen ?

Dr Pen Ultima A6. I bought it in the store, it has a different name in some countries. Example online store:
https://drpenstore.com/collections/...en-rechargeable-adjustable-microneedle-system