I haven’t been progressing in the gym

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

For my fellow gymcels and SBLcels out there, could anyone lend a hand?

I was doing U/L at 3x frequency with 6 sets to 0 RIR per week, but I hadn’t progressed on a single lift in months.

I’m going to experiment by going down to 2x frequency and 4 sets to 0 RIR per week, but I feel like that’s atrophy tier.

Any recommendations or input?

 

[Finncelchud]

Start androgens

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

Start androgens

I will as soon as I get a job, it’s impossible in the current market.

 

[true juan]

For my fellow gymcels and SBLcels out there, could anyone lend a hand?

I was doing U/L at 3x frequency with 6 sets to 0 RIR per week, but I hadn’t progressed on a single lift in months.

I’m going to experiment by going down to 2x frequency and 4 sets to 0 RIR per week, but I feel like that’s atrophy tier.

Any recommendations or input?

for the whole upper day you only did 6 sets?

 

[metalhitter]

skip legs

 

[roidar]

For my fellow gymcels and SBLcels out there, could anyone lend a hand?

I was doing U/L at 3x frequency with 6 sets to 0 RIR per week, but I hadn’t progressed on a single lift in months.

I’m going to experiment by going down to 2x frequency and 4 sets to 0 RIR per week, but I feel like that’s atrophy tier.

Any recommendations or input?

if you were truly science based you would know that science says steroids make you progress alot

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

for the whole upper day you only did 6 sets?

No, 6 sets per week.

IE; 2 sets of lateral raises 3x a week

if you were truly science based you would know that science says steroids make you progress alot

I will as soon as I get a job, it’s impossible in the current market.

skip legs

Based

 

[roidar]

also sbl is cope just train hard and dont egolift

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

also sbl is cope just train hard and dont egolift

I do train hard, 0 RIR. I just haven’t been progressing and my other factors are dialed in so I believe it has do something with my volume, frequency, or RIR

 

[true juan]

No, 6 sets per week.

IE; 2 sets of lateral raises 3x a week




Based

pick 1-2 exercises for each muscle groups and do 1 set of each

you can also try intracarbs and 1rir on ur sets

 

[roidar]

I do train hard, 0 RIR. I just haven’t been progressing and my other factors are dialed in so I believe it has do something with my volume, frequency, or RIR

yeah you do fucking ul as a natty ffs, too much volume with too little recovery

 

[true juan]

sbl is cope just train hard

sbl is just training hard dumbass

 

[roidar]

sbl is just training hard dumbass

yes training hard is in a way sbl, but I meant trying to optimize every single fucking thing you do, its retarded

 

[duebaora]

try 1rir and keep the volume

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

try 1rir and keep the volume

pick 1-2 exercises for each muscle groups and do 1 set of each

you can also try intracarbs and 1rir on ur sets

Will try 1 RIR, thank guys

yes training hard is in a way sbl, but I meant trying to optimize every single fucking thing you do, its retarded

Trying to find a recoverable amount of volume isn’t “trying to optimize every single fucking thing”. And yes, I’m aware that natty training is cope. I’ll be hopping on test once I’m able to

 

[WhatCommunity]

I will as soon as I get a job, it’s impossible in the current market.

don't do it bruh, It's completely possible to get good physique natty.
Change frequency to 3-4 a week, 3 sets of 12 reps. Go very close to failure (you're probably not getting close enough to it, everybody makes this mistake).
Also serious results become noticeable every 3 month or so.
Obv get enough protein in too, but that's honestly overblown minmax bullshit, as most people make little gains because they don't push it hard enough. Creatine is also overblown, water retention causing looksmin too imo.

Roids will age you terribly (just look at clav, he's like 22 but looks 27 already), hasten your balding by 10 years (at least without serious dht suppression), possibly give you acne and up your blood pressure so much that your skin will turn red. It will also make you infertile too.
Huge looksmin in my opinion, when to get a good physique, all you have to do is train side delts well and everything else decently too and do that for 2 years.

Dudes don't turn into Derek from MPMD in a few months of sub-optimal training and believe they gotta hop on, like bruh this website has lost it's mind.

 

[roidar]

Trying to find a recoverable amount of volume isn’t “trying to optimize every single fucking thing”. And yes, I’m aware that natty training is cope. I’ll be hopping on test once I’m able to

you said you were a sbl Im going to assume youre one of those guys who tries to optimize everything. I have made decent strenght progression while on a deficit doing a edited version of ppl (push pull legs rest push pull rest repeat), youre 6x a week ul is shit imo

 

[duebaora]

(you're probably not getting close enough to it, everybody makes this mistake).

he said he does 0rir wym bro n thats too much volume he already cant recover from 6 sets to 0rir

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

don't do it bruh, It's completely possible to get good physique natty.
Change frequency to 3-4 a week, 3 sets of 12 reps. Go very close to failure (you're probably not getting close enough to it, everybody makes this mistake).
Also serious results become noticeable every 3 month or so.
Obv get enough protein in too, but that's honestly overblown minmax bullshit, as most people make little gains because they don't push it hard enough. Creatine is also overblown, water retention causing looksmin too imo.

Roids will age you terribly (just look at clav, he's like 22 but looks 27 already), hasten your balding by 10 years (at least without serious dht suppression), possibly give you acne and up your blood pressure so much that your skin will turn red. It will also make you infertile too.
Huge looksmin in my opinion, when to get a good physique, all you have to do is train side delts well and everything else decently too and do that for 2 years.

Dudes don't turn into Derek from MPMD in a few months of sub-optimal training and believe they gotta hop on, like bruh this website has lost it's mind.

It’s a possibility of those side effects, but not guaranteed. I think roids are worth it, not even just for the muscle aspect, but the potential effects it can have on the neck and masseter muscles. Has high potential for looksmaxxing purposes

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

you said you were a sbl Im going to assume youre one of those guys who tries to optimize everything. I have made decent strenght progression while on a deficit doing a edited version of ppl (push pull legs rest push pull rest repeat), youre 6x a week ul is shit imo

Are you on androgens?

 

[roidar]

don't do it bruh, It's completely possible to get good physique natty.
Change frequency to 3-4 a week, 3 sets of 12 reps. Go very close to failure (you're probably not getting close enough to it, everybody makes this mistake).
Also serious results become noticeable every 3 month or so.
Obv get enough protein in too, but that's honestly overblown minmax bullshit, as most people make little gains because they don't push it hard enough. Creatine is also overblown, water retention causing looksmin too imo.

Roids will age you terribly (just look at clav, he's like 22 but looks 27 already), hasten your balding by 10 years (at least without serious dht suppression), possibly give you acne and up your blood pressure so much that your skin will turn red. It will also make you infertile too.
Huge looksmin in my opinion, when to get a good physique, all you have to do is train side delts well and everything else decently too and do that for 2 years.

Dudes don't turn into Derek from MPMD in a few months of sub-optimal training and believe they gotta hop on, like bruh this website has lost it's mind.

3 sets of 12 nigga, thats giving you no growth, you need atleast 10 sets of 20

 

[roidar]

Are you on androgens?

natty rn

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

natty rn

One day we’ll be on test bro

 

[roidar]

One day we’ll be on test bro

yes my nigga, i just need a more comfortable supply aint tryna hop on whilst i only have 5 vials on hand

 

[WhatCommunity]

It’s a possibility of those side effects, but not guaranteed. I think roids are worth it, not even just for the muscle aspect, but the potential effects it can have on the neck and masseter muscles. Has high potential for looksmaxxing purposes

only if you are one of those very few people who get mostly gains and almost no downsides.
Also if you have balding genes, hastening of balding is almost guaranteed from trt increasing, as more trt converts to more dht, which will make you bald ultrafast.

This is actually most likely result if you just blast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch/Tb6BSjy8GWo

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

yes my nigga, i just need a more comfortable supply aint tryna hop on whilst i only have 5 vials on hand

Facts bro, I swear some of these sources have severe bipolar

 

[princeof316]

For my fellow gymcels and SBLcels out there, could anyone lend a hand?

I was doing U/L at 3x frequency with 6 sets to 0 RIR per week, but I hadn’t progressed on a single lift in months.

I’m going to experiment by going down to 2x frequency and 4 sets to 0 RIR per week, but I feel like that’s atrophy tier.

Any recommendations or input?

Pms?

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

only if you are one of those very few people who get mostly gains and almost no downsides.
Also if you have balding genes, hastening of balding is almost guaranteed from trt increasing, as more trt converts to more dht, which will make you bald ultrafast.

This is actually most likely result if you just blast:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch/Tb6BSjy8GWo

I was thinking just test only cycles of 300-500mg, surely that isn’t enough to turn into a norwoodcel innit?

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

Pms?

Yes, pm me

 

[roidar]

Facts bro, I swear some of these sources have severe bipolar

yeah i have sources but my main stopped selling gear temporarily

 

[roidar]

only if you are one of those very few people who get mostly gains and almost no downsides.
Also if you have balding genes, hastening of balding is almost guaranteed from trt increasing, as more trt converts to more dht, which will make you bald ultrafast.

This is actually most likely result if you just blast:
View attachment 5365117

https://www.youtube.com/watch/Tb6BSjy8GWo

ah yes, trt will make me look like that at 22

 

[WhatCommunity]

I was thinking just test only cycles of 300-500mg, surely that isn’t enough to turn into a norwoodcel innit?

if you have genes, it will hasten it, even just 25%-30% dht increase in scalp would be significant, because that's how much finasteride DECREASES dht, which extends hairline by decades sometimes.

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

yeah i have sources but my main stopped selling gear temporarily

Real bhais share sources (I’ll be DMjng you for your sources once I’m able to hop on )

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

if you have genes, it will hasten it, even just 25%-30% dht increase in scalp would be significant, because that's how much finasteride DECREASES dht, which extends hairline by decades sometimes.

What about dutasteride instead?

 

[roidar]

pick 1-2 exercises for each muscle groups and do 1 set of each

you can also try intracarbs and 1rir on ur sets

I tried 1 set per each for a while but went back to 2, always go 0rir as you will truly never understand when you hit 1rir, you may think you cant hit another rep and get 2 or more etc

 

[WhatCommunity]

and btw, I'm not natty or die. If you truly understand consequences, increase in dht and estrogen + higher blood pressure + infertility + acne + monetary loss, it is what it is. When I'm 50-60 year old, I'ma be on something legally too, just that not everybody gonna get that clav results.

 

[roidar]

Real bhais share sources (I’ll be DMjng you for your sources once I’m able to hop on )

ok

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

I tried 1 set per each for a while but went back to 2, always go 0rir as you will truly never understand when you hit 1rir, you may think you cant hit another rep and get 2 or more etc

Yeah, that’s my only issue with RIR. It’s genuinely hard to tell at times. 0 RIR is more fun and easier to gauge imo

and btw, I'm not natty or die. If you truly understand consequences, increase in dht and estrogen + higher blood pressure + infertility + acne + monetary loss, it is what it is. When I'm 50-60 year old, I'ma be on something legally too, just that not everybody gonna get that clav results.

Infertility is based. Slaying foids raw forever!

 

[roidar]

and btw, I'm not natty or die. If you truly understand consequences, increase in dht and estrogen + higher blood pressure + infertility + acne + monetary loss, it is what it is. When I'm 50-60 year old, I'ma be on something legally too, just that not everybody gonna get that clav results.

is english your second language? also you think running test is going to do all that? also did u mean memory loss or monetary loss

 

[WhatCommunity]

What about dutasteride instead?

more you blast trt, more duta you will need.
Also duta itself has it's own negative effects that sometimes don't show up for months, though in my 50s, if I blast, I'ma dutamaxx too, no hair, no life.
not medical advice.

 

[true juan]

I tried 1 set per each for a while but went back to 2, always go 0rir as you will truly never understand when you hit 1rir, you may think you cant hit another rep and get 2 or more etc

whats ur bf?

 

[roidar]

whats ur bf?

idkf im not lean thats for sure i have posts with my shit physique in them lmao

 

[WhatCommunity]

is english your second language? also you think running test is going to do all that? also did u mean memory loss or monetary loss

It is my second language. As for test thing, yes, it will increase dht and estrogen massively and give decent amount of people gyno and early visit from norwood reaper.

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

It is my second language. As for test thing, yes, it will increase dht and estrogen massively and give decent amount of people gyno and early visit from norwood reaper.

Gyno is good it gives me pepperoni pizza halo

 

[roidar]

It is my second language. As for test thing, yes, it will increase dht and estrogen massively and give decent amount of people gyno and early visit from norwood reaper.

ever heard of a ai?

 

[WhatCommunity]

ever heard of a ai?

*an AI

 

[UndiagnosedSchizo]

*an AI

Cooked him

 

[true juan]

idkf im not lean thats for sure i have posts with my shit physique in them lmao

u might js be in a giga surplus where u have hella energy or ur js built like that lol

 

[roidar]

*an AI

thanks for the correction my jiggaboo

 

[roidar]

u might js be in a giga surplus where u have hella energy or ur js built like that lol

did u find the thread with my physique?