I never thought I’d get to this point but

[whiteissuperior]

honestly arrange marriage max is better

and betabux aka hookers and exotic females

or just find a low tier Indian female for a ltr if ur in India it shouldn't be that hard

read my update yakhi

 

[MakinMogReturns]

jk tho I am LTN BBC 6'2-6'3

big frame.

Only flaw is face

I'm so confused on what to believe fuck you

if u really r black tho u dont need surgery u should be slaying

 

[whiteissuperior]

I'm so confused on what to believe fuck you

if u really r black tho u dont need surgery u should be slaying

i wrote a whole thread on why i dont believe in slaying as an ugly person anymore.

Im not incel but Im not a slayer either.

Bodycount 11 in early 20s.

Its not worth it if ur ugly no matter how big and tall you are


Face >>>>>>> height

a big tall LTN is just a LTN+

 

[Deleted member 18879]

i wrote a whole thread on why i dont believe in slaying as an ugly person anymore.

Im not incel but Im not a slayer either.

Bodycount 11 in early 20s.

Its not worth it if ur ugly no matter how big and tall you are


Face >>>>>>> height

a big tall LTN is just a LTN+

what is ur height and race?

 

[whiteissuperior]

what is ur height and race?

5'1 curry

i will never give a str8 answer on the forum I must be able to larp as something different all. the time.

 

[Deleted member 18879]

5'1 curry

i will never give a str8 answer on the forum I must be able to larp as something different all. the time.

well if you have slay count of 11 in early 20's you are either giga NT charisma god LTN or above average looking assuming you have an actual class 3 and deficient midface.

 

[MakinMogReturns]

i wrote a whole thread on why i dont believe in slaying as an ugly person anymore.

Im not incel but Im not a slayer either.

Bodycount 11 in early 20s.

Its not worth it if ur ugly no matter how big and tall you are


Face >>>>>>> height

a big tall LTN is just a LTN+

idk man u should still slay at 6 3 barefoot ur 6 6 with lifts and af1 and u have big frame? if u just gym max and wear tight clothes u should easily be slaying dude

 

[whiteissuperior]

idk man u should still slay at 6 3 barefoot ur 6 6 with lifts and af1 and u have big frame? if unjust gym max and wear tight clothes u should easily be slaying dude

Its not worth it

I slept with the most women at 140 lbs 6'2 3/10 (bonus points for height includes)

No Im 6'3 200 lbs 5/10 (bonus points for height included) and Im telling you bro. Yes I can approach women and slay and jester max for it, but being big and tall doesnt evoke lust the same way face does and women and ppl will treat you like shit especially if you have a soylent face like me

It's not the same level of validation as a hot girl approachign you and validating you for your genes

Plus Im hard capped at MTB, maybe occasional HTB

also ppl will always say shit like "how did he get her?"

 

[whiteissuperior]

well if you have slay count of 11 in early 20's you are either giga NT charisma god LTN or above average looking assuming you have an actual class 3 and deficient midface.

its unironically the first one. I am giga NT and charismatic irl and was the most popular freshman in my school before getting falsely accused of SA

 

[thereallegend]

You have female patients in mind, which can expand with MSE until their 60s. Males stop being able to reliably split skeletal sutures (Midpalatal suture, pterygomaxillary sutures, maxilla) with MSE at around 15. From then even Surgically Assisted MSE can fail. And you have people having multiple failed MSEs and eventually doing traditional SARPE.

Where'd you hear this?

 

[MakinMogReturns]

Its not worth it

I slept with the most women at 140 lbs 6'2 3/10 (bonus points for height includes)

No Im 6'3 200 lbs 5/10 (bonus points for height included) and Im telling you bro. Yes I can approach women and slay and jester max for it, but being big and tall doesnt evoke lust the same way face does and women and ppl will treat you like shit especially if you have a soylent face like me

It's not the same level of validation as a hot girl approachign you and validating you for your genes

Plus Im hard capped at MTB, maybe occasional HTB

also ppl will always say shit like "how did he get her?"

that's fucked u ever thought of getting a ltb with good body?

 

[whiteissuperior]

that's fucked u ever thought of getting a ltb with good body?

im an ambitious man i love face and want my kids to be moggers

might as well try to hard maxx before I jsut accept my league

 

[ChristianChad]

Where'd you hear this?

What exactly?

 

[SubSigma]

At first i thought u were about to go er...

 

[whiteissuperior]

At first i thought u were about to go er...

soon yakhi

 

[Tasty17]

Let me know if you find a provider for MLF3. I need it too.

 

[whiteissuperior]

s

Let me know if you find a provider for MLF3. I need it too.

sinn

 

[Tasty17]

s

sinn

He retired dude.

 

[whiteissuperior]

He retired dude.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Tasty17]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Yeah. It was last year or so. I wanted to get it done with him too. It’s truly over for us.

 

[Deleted member 21676]

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Would I benefit from a modified LF3? I am just so narrow and down-grown, even my front teeth are fucking crowded. ENRAGING. I have an underbite that is so hypoplasic that my upper jaw is completely consumed by my lower in terms of width, both vertically and horizontally.

Yea but I don’t think doctors being giving out lefort 3s for cosmetics

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Yea but I don’t think doctors being giving out lefort 3s for cosmetics

LF3 is purely cosmetic though? especially a modified one, I have underbite and recession

 

[smvmaxxertilllate]

I don’t want to say it won’t happen but idk LF3 dude? Good luck man I hope it works out for you.

 

[thereallegend]

What exactly?

Your research in general

 

[Deleted member 17920]

do u have the money?

 

[Deleted member 17920]

fuck man when i joined i thought i only needed bsso + genio

but now i realize i need sarpe/some palate expander, bimax, genio, hairline lowering, jaw and zygo implants and neck lipo

 

[ChristianChad]

Your research in general

Lots of places, that's just some of my current conclusions. I didn't research that well so bare this in mind

 

[whiteissuperior]

What exactly?

latest update from dr ting on palatal expansion research btw. even if you hate MSE it will soon become obsolete

Ill just quote it here

"Hi team, I like to share some newest technology and protocols on skeletal expansion with you all. I recently started my own skeletal expansion journey. I waited for a long time on this because the technology was simply not ready for case like mine. I'm a male in the 50s, thick bone and palatal cant with tori. Unless if I was willing to have surgical assist, expansion was out of the question. Until now. I have been doing Mid Palatal Piezo Corticotomy since Jan this year. So far, there is no fail case. Even on those cases that already failed cortipunctures. I stopped doing cortipunctures, because it's simply and completely outdated. Plus my sleeping and health condition was not going the right way that I preferred, I decided the technology is matured enough for me to start my own skeletal expansion journey. I went to the best orthodontist that I know and my classmates Dr Ilya Lipkin. Partners Lab(Djamil) custom made a skeletal expander with 8 TADs

. Dr Lipkin performed corticotomy and inserted the device. I flew back the same day from New Jersey to LA with only minor discomfort. The only thing that really bothers me was my tongue robbing against the device. Now I'm 1.5 mm opened with diastema. Many of my patients who had both cortipunctures and corticotomy told me that corticotomy bothered them a lot less than cortipunctures. Which was what I experienced myself, minimum discomfort. Dr Lipkin also mentioned that he has no fail cases with corticotomy. Both of us had stopped doing cortipunctures for a long time. I belive Mid Palatal Piezo Corticotomy is a game changer. With the addition of custom skeletal expander from Partners Lab for difficult cases like me. I believed Surgical Assist, DOME, EASE were obsolete! Except in very rare cases, more rare than male 50s with Palatal tori and cant. Imagining with less discomfort and potential instrument breakage than cortipunctures. Without the very invasive surgical process and zero down time. This is a revolution on maxillary skeletal expansion! I know both Dr Lipkin and I have course coming up on corticotomy. I'm excited to let you all know, that adult skeletal can be done predictably and with minimum discomfort. By the way, with only 1.5 mm expansion, I am able to breath comfortably with a flu and sore throat. I dream every night. My wife said I didn't snore except on the worse day of the flu. Corticotomy created a exciting future for maxillary skeletal expansion."

 

[ChristianChad]

even if you hate MSE it will soon become obsolete

Wdym?

"Hi team, I like to share some newest technology and protocols on skeletal expansion with you all. I recently started my own skeletal expansion journey. I waited for a long time on this because the technology was simply not ready for case like mine. I'm a male in the 50s, thick bone and palatal cant with tori. Unless if I was willing to have surgical assist, expansion was out of the question. Until now. I have been doing Mid Palatal Piezo Corticotomy since Jan this year. So far, there is no fail case. Even on those cases that already failed cortipunctures. I stopped doing cortipunctures, because it's simply and completely outdated. Plus my sleeping and health condition was not going the right way that I preferred, I decided the technology is matured enough for me to start my own skeletal expansion journey. I went to the best orthodontist that I know and my classmates Dr Ilya Lipkin. Partners Lab(Djamil) custom made a skeletal expander with 8 TADs

. Dr Lipkin performed corticotomy and inserted the device. I flew back the same day from New Jersey to LA with only minor discomfort. The only thing that really bothers me was my tongue robbing against the device. Now I'm 1.5 mm opened with diastema. Many of my patients who had both cortipunctures and corticotomy told me that corticotomy bothered them a lot less than cortipunctures. Which was what I experienced myself, minimum discomfort. Dr Lipkin also mentioned that he has no fail cases with corticotomy. Both of us had stopped doing cortipunctures for a long time. I belive Mid Palatal Piezo Corticotomy is a game changer. With the addition of custom skeletal expander from Partners Lab for difficult cases like me. I believed Surgical Assist, DOME, EASE were obsolete! Except in very rare cases, more rare than male 50s with Palatal tori and cant. Imagining with less discomfort and potential instrument breakage than cortipunctures. Without the very invasive surgical process and zero down time. This is a revolution on maxillary skeletal expansion! I know both Dr Lipkin and I have course coming up on corticotomy. I'm excited to let you all know, that adult skeletal can be done predictably and with minimum discomfort. By the way, with only 1.5 mm expansion, I am able to breath comfortably with a flu and sore throat. I dream every night. My wife said I didn't snore except on the worse day of the flu. Corticotomy created a exciting future for maxillary skeletal expansion."

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