If i see someone say msdo again

[Elias]

Ima kill you
Msdo provides no aesthetic improvement other than a wider chin and widens the lower teeth arch.

Its hardly ever been done, we dont know hardly anything about it, few orthos would even consider it, even mse is so rare and most orthos will even deny you that.
The autism jfl. ‘MSE + MSDO 12mm expansion’. You are autistic if you think youll get this. 12mm is way too much even if you have a 35mm IMW. Bizygomactic width is more correlated to genetics than palatal width. There are many male models with narrow palates yet wide bizygomactic widths, Tom welling as an example.

No MSDO doesnt create a wider jaw. No MSDO wont save you. NO MSE wont save you. It wont improve your eye area. It will make you look Ogre and look like shrek. All facial appliances are a meme just like agga and dna, homeoblock etc. Facepulling is a meme. Jfl if you think youre gonna get mse and facepull for two years. You are autistic.

Its surgery or rope. Most people on here dont need mse. Stop listening to silly people. They need more saggital and coronal growth than they even need width. Width will hardly ascend any of you.

Dont @ me.

 

[Ritalincel]

s

 

[NothingCanStopMe]

I disagree about MSE. It's quite promising for looksmaxing. I'll try my best to find someone that will agree to it.
My palate is narrow as hell. My canine teeth are not out and I'm 20.

 

[user1728482728]

Ima kill you
Msdo provides no aesthetic improvement other than a wider chin and widens the lower teeth arch.

Its hardly ever been done, we dont know hardly anything about it, few orthos would even consider it, even mse is so rare and most orthos will even deny you that.
The autism jfl. ‘MSE + MSDO 12mm expansion’. You are autistic if you think youll get this. 12mm is way too much even if you have a 35mm IMW. Bizygomactic width is more correlated to genetics than palatal width. There are many male models with narrow palates yet wide bizygomactic widths, Tom welling as an example.

No MSDO doesnt create a wider jaw. No MSDO wont save you. NO MSE wont save you. It wont improve your eye area. It will make you look Ogre and look like shrek. All facial appliances are a meme just like agga and dna, homeoblock etc. Facepulling is a meme. Jfl if you think youre gonna get mse and facepull for two years. You are autistic.

Its surgery or rope. Most people on here dont need mse. Stop listening to silly people. They need more saggital and coronal growth than they even need width. Width will hardly ascend any of you.

Dont @ me.

MSE expands zygos bro

 

[Incoming]

Jfl the guy who pushes mewing thinks facepulling and mse are cope

yeah bro appliances are cope bro!

 

[Elias]

Jfl the guy who pushes mewing thinks facepulling and mse are cope
View attachment 444795
yeah bro appliances are cope bro!

Shut up bitch

 

[OOGABOOGA]

Jfl @ u cuck I have super wide bigonial and narrow chin. I will get 2.5 cm msdo and become gigachad
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Tbh I want to get these for a wider mouth. If I’m kinda recessed and get a lefort or two will it widen my mouth by stretching it forward? Also could I just do chin wing to widen at the front?

 

[Elias]

Jfl @ u cuck I have super wide bigonial and narrow chin. I will get 2.5 cm msdo and become gigachad

Have you even read what I said
Another autistic uneducated user

You will never get MSDO, jfl thinking it will even increase you by 0.25psl. Your narrow jaw will not aesthetically improve just from a wider chin, you need a brain transplant by eppley instead.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

Have you even read what I said
Another autistic uneducated user

You will never get MSDO, jfl thinking it will even increase you by 0.25psl. Your narrow jaw will not aesthetically improve just from a wider chin, you need a brain transplant by eppley instead.

Retard moment. I said 2.5 cm who tf is getting that. Also I said I have wide jaw but narrow chin. Also I iq mog you. Nigger.

 

[Elias]

Retard moment. I said 2.5 cm who tf is getting that. Also I said I have wide jaw but narrow chin. Also I iq mog you. Nigger.

I misread

You dont mog shit, you are sub 4psl brainlet

 

[OOGABOOGA]

I misread

You dont mog shit, you are sub 4psl brainlet

Cry for my beautiful blue eyes and 99.9th percentile standardized test scores

 

[Deleted member 1849]

I've already talked with andrischev, I'm getting MSE+MSDO.

MSE will give me wider mouth, better smile from wider palate and if they improve cheekbones that'll be welcome.

I have a vertically short and horizontally short chin. MSDO will help the horizontal width.

I agree it's not much, but it's something.

 

[Elias]

View attachment 444808Cry for my beautiful blue eyes and 99.9th percentile standardized test scores

Looks like utter shit
Recessed infraorbital rims and shit canthal tilt
Squint harder you faggot
Colouring is also shit

 

[OOGABOOGA]

Looks like utter shit
Recessed infraorbital rims and shit canthal tilt
Squint harder you faggot
Colouring is also shit

Hahahahahahaha fuck you I know my eye area is shit but I will get rims and taban max. At least I’m not an Illuminati cat

I've already talked with andrischev, I'm getting MSE+MSDO.

MSE will give me wider mouth, better smile from wider palate and if they improve cheekbones that'll be welcome.

I have a vertically short and horizontally short chin. MSDO will help the horizontal width.

I agree it's not much, but it's something.

Tbh he has a point. Msdo is cheap compared to lefort a but with braces and all it’d take so long. I may just get lefort twice and implants

 

[Elias]

I've already talked with andrischev, I'm getting MSE+MSDO.

MSE will give me wider mouth, better smile from wider palate and if they improve cheekbones that'll be welcome.

I have a vertically short and horizontally short chin. MSDO will help the horizontal width.

I agree it's not much, but it's something.

For your chin get a genioplasty to vertically and horizontally enhance along with a bimax.

You will never get msdo, potentially not even MSE. @retard was denied it and he’s probably more narrow than you.

You’re talking to someone whos already visited multiples orthos like Mew and asked for MSE and got denied.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

Hahahahahahaha fuck you I know my eye area is shit but I will get rims and taban max. At least I’m not an Illuminati cat

Tbh he has a point. Msdo is cheap compared to lefort a but with braces and all it’d take so long. I may just get lefort twice and implants

Pm me your plans, don't say it on here or prices. Surgeons lurk here.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

Pm me your plans, don't say it on here or prices. Surgeons lurk here.

@wrist implant surgeons pm me tbh

 

[Deleted member 1849]

For your chin get a genioplasty to vertically and horizontally enhance along with a bimax.

You will never get msdo, potentially not even MSE. @retard was denied it and he’s probably more narrow than you.

You’re talking to someone whos already visited multiples orthos like Mew and asked for MSE and got denied.

I've talked with andrischev, I AM getting MSE+MSDO.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

For your chin get a genioplasty to vertically and horizontally enhance along with a bimax.

You will never get msdo, potentially not even MSE. @retard was denied it and he’s probably more narrow than you.

You’re talking to someone whos already visited multiples orthos like Mew and asked for MSE and got denied.

You’re the first one to expose my eye area, truly knowledgeable psl user. Do you think rims and cantho or lower lid retraction are reliably effective?

 

[Elias]

I've talked with andrischev, I AM getting MSE+MSDO.

Let me guess you dmd him on instagram just like all these other aspies @PubertyMaxxer

He will tell you what you want to hear, you wont listen I don’t really care.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

Let me guess you dmd him on instagram just like all these other aspies @PubertyMaxxer

He will tell you what you want to hear, you wont listen I don’t really care.

Why would a surgeon in the right mind give a normal person a bimax? Your argument is irrelevant. If andrischev won't give me MSE+MSDO then why the hell would he give me a bimax? A user on lookism is currently expanding with MSE and FACEPULLING.

@forwardgrowth got MSE i think.
@Slayerino got MSE.

 

[Elias]

Why would a surgeon in the right mind give a normal person a bimax? Your argument is irrelevant. If andrischev won't give me MSE+MSDO then why the hell would he give me a bimax? A user on lookism is currently expanding with MSE and FACEPULLING.

@forwardgrowth got MSE i think.
@Slayerino got MSE.

Both commented that they were very underwhelmed with their results. Plus im pretty sure they didnt get mse and another bone borne expander such as hyrax or sarpe. Plus I doubt they got any more than 8mm expansion. Plus they did not get MSDO.

I dont know what you look like. I was assuming you had a bite deficiency.

Im done arguing with you tbh do what you want don’t cry later like a faggot

 

[Deleted member 1849]

Both commented that they were very underwhelmed with their results. Plus im pretty sure they didnt get mse and another bone borne expander such as hyrax or sarpe. Plus I doubt they got any more than 8mm expansion. Plus they did not get MSDO.

I dont know what you look like. I was assuming you had a bite deficiency.

Im done arguing with you tbh do what you want don’t cry later like a faggot

Also can't breathe through my nose well. I'll get MSE because of that most likely. WATCH me ascend.

 

[Ritalincel]

Jfl @ u cuck

 

[Incoming]

Both commented that they were very underwhelmed with their results. Plus im pretty sure they didnt get mse and another bone borne expander such as hyrax or sarpe. Plus I doubt they got any more than 8mm expansion. Plus they did not get MSDO.

I dont know what you look like. I was assuming you had a bite deficiency.

Im done arguing with you tbh do what you want don’t cry later like a faggot

Forward growth seemed pretty satisfied from mse alone...

Forward growth seemed pretty satisfied from mse alone...

3mm of forward growth and he did something like 10mm of lateral expansion

 

[Elias]

Forward growth seemed pretty satisfied from mse alone... View attachment 444844

3mm of forward growth and he did something like 10mm of lateral expansion

You’ll believe anything you see on the internet
Anyone can just make an account here and say I got mse

Unless they provide pics its not a valid claim, theres a reason he hasnt provided pics.

Also 3mm of ccw just from lateral expansion is the biggest crap ive ever heard. The max youd get even from 12mm expansion would be 1.5mm of upswing of the maxilla from the suture splitting

 

[Incoming]

You’ll believe anything you see on the internet
Anyone can just make an account here and say I got mse

Unless they provide pics its not a valid claim, theres a reason he hasnt provided pics.

Also 3mm of ccw just from lateral expansion is the biggest crap ive ever heard. The max youd get even from 12mm expansion would be 1.5mm of upswing of the maxilla from the suture splitting

I never said to take his word as law, I was just responding to your claim that he wasn’t satisfied with results. Even Ronald Ead had good results with his 3 month expansion in his late twenties. A bunch of teens and young adults can surely do better. Even more so when paired with facemask.

 

[Elias]

I never said to take his word as law, I was just responding to your claim that he wasn’t satisfied with results. Even Ronald Ead had good results with his 3 month expansion in his late twenties. A bunch of teens and young adults can surely do better. Even more so when paired with facemask.

I know. Im not saying mse doesnt do anything. Im saying it wont increase your psl by much + theres a very low chance of you getting it, especially MSDO.

 

[Incoming]

I know. Im not saying mse doesnt do anything. Im saying it wont increase your psl by much + theres a very low chance of you getting it, especially MSDO.

This is true. Besides the Russian dude I can’t find anyone that offers msdo. And to anyone coping with Andrischev, he has only done mse a couple of times. He has no experience with expansion compared to Won Moon or Dr. Newaz. I wouldn’t trust him to give the most optimal results

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

No shit sherlock mse + msdo wont turn you into chad but it will atleast give 0.5 psl if you have following failos

Narrow mouth width
Only 6-9teeth narrow smile
zygo width/prominence
Narrow chin width

Its literally proven to improve these tjings in studies

Ofcourse if you already have very wide chin that is vertically too short or already wide smile it wont give you any psl

 

[Elias]

No shit sherlock mse + msdo wont turn you into chad but it will atleast give 0.5 psl if you have following failos

Narrow mouth width
Only 6-9teeth narrow smile
zygo width/prominence
Narrow chin width

Its literally proven to improve these tjings in studies

Ofcourse if you already have very wide chin that is vertically too short or already wide smile it wont give you any psl

This thread isnt about mse it just got dragged into the discussion, i know more about MSE than all of you anyway.
Its about the fact you will never get MSDO so stop acting like a delusional aspie

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

This thread isnt about mse it just got dragged into the discussion, i know more about MSE than all of you anyway.
Its about the fact you will never get MSDO so stop acting like a delusional aspie

Muh noone will get it:

A simple technique for mandibular symphyseal distraction osteogenesis. | Semantic Scholar

The successful correction of bimaxillary dentoalveolar protrusion by means of MSDO combined with rapid palatal expansion (RPE) using a new, simplified mandibular expander is described. developed for mandibular arch expansion,1 including Schwarz plates,2 lip bumpers,3-5 lingual arches, functional...

www.semanticscholar.org

 

[Elias]

Muh noone will get it:

A simple technique for mandibular symphyseal distraction osteogenesis. | Semantic Scholar

The successful correction of bimaxillary dentoalveolar protrusion by means of MSDO combined with rapid palatal expansion (RPE) using a new, simplified mandibular expander is described. developed for mandibular arch expansion,1 including Schwarz plates,2 lip bumpers,3-5 lingual arches, functional...

www.semanticscholar.org

Oh god, its so over for your IQ son.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Oh god, its so over for your IQ son.

I just showed you someone who had msdo but whatever keep coping boyo

 

[Elias]

I just showed you someone who had msdo but whatever keep coping boyo

Published 2010.

Schwartz plates ‘Bone borne expansion’

I am not even going to continue this. You are utterly deluded.

 

[Pietrosiek]

msdo

 

[Deleted member 5912]

But if I have the money to pay for it would they do it for me?

 

[damnit]

If you have malocclusion like crossbite , it seems mse is superior to sarpe surgery. It provides bite correction and potentially some midfacial improvements. MSE > SARPE for crossbites.

 

[Slayerino]

Ima kill you
Msdo provides no aesthetic improvement other than a wider chin and widens the lower teeth arch.

Its hardly ever been done, we dont know hardly anything about it, few orthos would even consider it, even mse is so rare and most orthos will even deny you that.
The autism jfl. ‘MSE + MSDO 12mm expansion’. You are autistic if you think youll get this. 12mm is way too much even if you have a 35mm IMW. Bizygomactic width is more correlated to genetics than palatal width. There are many male models with narrow palates yet wide bizygomactic widths, Tom welling as an example.

No MSDO doesnt create a wider jaw. No MSDO wont save you. NO MSE wont save you. It wont improve your eye area. It will make you look Ogre and look like shrek. All facial appliances are a meme just like agga and dna, homeoblock etc. Facepulling is a meme. Jfl if you think youre gonna get mse and facepull for two years. You are autistic.

Its surgery or rope. Most people on here dont need mse. Stop listening to silly people. They need more saggital and coronal growth than they even need width. Width will hardly ascend any of you.

Dont @ me.

Why would a surgeon in the right mind give a normal person a bimax? Your argument is irrelevant. If andrischev won't give me MSE+MSDO then why the hell would he give me a bimax? A user on lookism is currently expanding with MSE and FACEPULLING.

@forwardgrowth got MSE i think.
@Slayerino got MSE.

It's hilarious reading this thread while having MSE+MSDO already installed.

 

[Deleted member 5912]

It's hilarious reading this thread while having MSE+MSDO already installed.

why?

 

[Ritalincel]

https://looksmax.org/posts/2555330/reactions

 

[DutchPrettyBoy]

why are the orthos so difficult. they get money for it. it doesn't hurt them to do it.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

It's hilarious reading this thread while having MSE+MSDO already installed.

You went to adrischev bro?

 

[stuckneworleans]

It's hilarious reading this thread while having MSE+MSDO already installed.

are you facepulling?

 

[Slayerino]

why?

Coz he's saying no one will have it, while I got it.

are you facepulling?

No, it's cope.

 

[Deleted member 5912]

Coz he's saying no one will have it, while I got it.

No, it's cope.

bro op is a dick sucking fag
im getting it and thats all I know
let him suck on

 

[Elias]

It's hilarious reading this thread while having MSE+MSDO already installed.

Pics of larp.
Dont put up claims you cant back.
You really think people believe you have mse and msdo installed in the mists of corona and black lives matter.
You cant even post a pic of just the inside of your mouth?