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Go to the mall. Make friends and ignore rejections. Talk to girls.

Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.

The only real advice you can get from this forum is: Skin conditioning, bonesmashing(huge brain damage risk but without it I would be an incel) and hairstyles.

Using anti estrogen natural supplements like Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Aggrestis. There is so much plastic in the water and food that you will need natural supps.

LIFT WEIGHTS and PUNCHING BAG TRAINING.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AVOID THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE, SON, YOU WILL FUCKING REGRET THIS TOXIC SHIT HOLE SEWAGE PIT OF SUICIDALISM AND FAGGOTRY.
 
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Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.
mission impossible for most.

do you think they found this place by accident? there literally people witk 10k posts in two months. it's not hard to understand what's going on. they have no friends and no life. it's hard to build something from this default point.
 
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mission impossible for most.

do you think they found this place by accident? there literally people witk 10k posts in two months. it's not hard to understand what's going on. they have no friends and no life. it's hard to build something from this default point.
Some people are just beyond saving. nothing much can be done. it's over for most.
 
mission impossible for most.

do you think they found this place by accident? there literally people witk 10k posts in two months. it's not hard to understand what's going on. they have no friends and no life. it's hard to build something from this default point.
Trust me

You just have to force yourself out there and be around people, make bros, make girlfriends, accept that people will

ALWAYS GIVE YOU SHIT, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

LEARN TO DEFEND YOURSELF, PHYSICALLY AND VERBALLY


ITS ONE BIG SHIT SANDWICH AND WE ALL GOTTA TAKE A BITE SOMETIMES
 
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Go to the mall. Make friends and ignore rejections. Talk to girls.

Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.

The only real advice you can get from this forum is: Skin conditioning, bonesmashing(huge brain damage risk but without it I would be an incel) and hairstyles.

Using anti estrogen natural supplements like Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Aggrestis. There is so much plastic in the water and food that you will need natural supps.

LIFT WEIGHTS and PUNCHING BAG TRAINING.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AVOID THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE, SON, YOU WILL FUCKING REGRET THIS TOXIC SHIT HOLE SEWAGE PIT OF SUICIDALISM AND FAGGOTRY.
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To all the greyfags
 
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LISTEN FUCK NUT

I JOINED LOOKISM THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO

I WASTED SO MUCH FUCKING TIME, GOD DAMMIT, i WASTED SO MUCH FUCKING TIME

SHIT HAS ONLY TAKEN OFF FOR ME IN THE LAST 10 MONTHS, JUST FUCKING BARELY, AND IM FUCKING 26

THESE DAYS I LIE ABOUT MY MOTHER FUCKING AGE, HOPING THAT NO ONE WILL EVER ASK ME TO PROVE IT. IF THEY DO, ILL SIT THEIR LOOKING LIKE A RETARD OLDCEL, AND BECOME A FUCKING LAUGHING STOCK


!THE SEARCH FUNCTION IS HERE FOR A REASON, USE IT, DONT POST HERE!
 
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mission impossible for most.

do you think they found this place by accident? there literally people witk 10k posts in two months. it's not hard to understand what's going on. they have no friends and no life. it's hard to build something from this default point.
Couldn't have said it better
 
Go to the mall. Make friends and ignore rejections. Talk to girls.

Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.

The only real advice you can get from this forum is: Skin conditioning, bonesmashing(huge brain damage risk but without it I would be an incel) and hairstyles.

Using anti estrogen natural supplements like Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Aggrestis. There is so much plastic in the water and food that you will need natural supps.

LIFT WEIGHTS and PUNCHING BAG TRAINING.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AVOID THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE, SON, YOU WILL FUCKING REGRET THIS TOXIC SHIT HOLE SEWAGE PIT OF SUICIDALISM AND FAGGOTRY.
In no way I can just go out and "enjoy"
I lack everything to do it.
 
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nuh uh you cant tell me what to do
 
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they found this forum cuz they failed with girls idiot.
 
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Go to the mall. Make friends and ignore rejections. Talk to girls.

Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.

The only real advice you can get from this forum is: Skin conditioning, bonesmashing(huge brain damage risk but without it I would be an incel) and hairstyles.

Using anti estrogen natural supplements like Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Aggrestis. There is so much plastic in the water and food that you will need natural supps.

LIFT WEIGHTS and PUNCHING BAG TRAINING.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AVOID THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE, SON, YOU WILL FUCKING REGRET THIS TOXIC SHIT HOLE SEWAGE PIT OF SUICIDALISM AND FAGGOTRY.

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“Just be confident bro”
 
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Trust me

You just have to force yourself out there and be around people, make bros, make girlfriends, accept that people will

ALWAYS GIVE YOU SHIT, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

LEARN TO DEFEND YOURSELF, PHYSICALLY AND VERBALLY


ITS ONE BIG SHIT SANDWICH AND WE ALL GOTTA TAKE A BITE SOMETIMES
Sounds like Redpill cope
 
Go to the mall. Make friends and ignore rejections. Talk to girls.

Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.

The only real advice you can get from this forum is: Skin conditioning, bonesmashing(huge brain damage risk but without it I would be an incel) and hairstyles.

Using anti estrogen natural supplements like Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Aggrestis. There is so much plastic in the water and food that you will need natural supps.

LIFT WEIGHTS and PUNCHING BAG TRAINING.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AVOID THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE, SON, YOU WILL FUCKING REGRET THIS TOXIC SHIT HOLE SEWAGE PIT OF SUICIDALISM AND FAGGOTRY.
water is wet


shit thread + ratio
 
I wish i spent my teen years flirting with more girls. Now it just feels like I'm making up for lost time. TBH every second of this life counts. It kills me inside that I messed up my chances with many women potentially. Do not make the same mistake users of this site. Good stuff OP.
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I wish i spent my teen years flirting with more girls. Now it just feels like I'm making up for lost time. TBH every second of this life counts. It kills me inside that I messed up my chances with many women potentially. Do not make the same mistake users of this site. Good stuff OP.
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How old are you and when did you finally just force yourself out into the night life?

I was 21 the first time, mind you I got laid before that in two relationships, but they were the sort of geek relationships and puppy love.
I got so nervous and anxious, i got bullied then i didnt do anything but bonesmash for two years. Then finally I went back out, it sucked again, but I just kept going and going.

Its like when you walk into the club and go into the bathroom and look in the mirror, you look horrible, but then you go out and dance, get sweaty, breathe in the girls phermones, dance, and just force yourself to have fun.

I swear, skin conditioning is the one thing that made it 10x better.
 
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How old are you and when did you finally just force yourself out into the night life?

I was 21 the first time, mind you I got laid before that in two relationships, but they were the sort of geek relationships and puppy love.
I got so nervous and anxious, i got bullied then i didnt do anything but bonesmash for two years. Then finally I went back out, it sucked again, but I just kept going and going.

Its like when you walk into the club and go into the bathroom and look in the mirror, you look horrible, but then you go out and dance, get sweaty, breathe in the girls phermones, dance, and just force yourself to have fun.

I swear, skin conditioning is the one thing that made it 10x better.
I didnt start trying really until this year in January. I had a bodycount of 1 for 21 1/2 years of my life. Im now 23 and trying to makeup for lost time. I still get anxious to this day. I can relate a lot to ppl here in that regard. Never got bullied but just never could make real friends and connections with social groups in order to really put myself out there. I was that one quite weird kid no one really payed much attention to tbh. Now I have a couple friends in college and we try and go to parties and go out and stuff but tbh i don't fuck with it. Online dating sucks as the girls are shit quality and night life sucks more and is a waste of money if u arent a true chad or rich as fuck. Kinda depressing tbh
 
I didnt start trying really until this year in January. I had a bodycount of 1 for 21 1/2 years of my life. Im now 23 and trying to makeup for lost time. I still get anxious to this day. I can relate a lot to ppl here in that regard. Never got bullied but just never could make real friends and connections with social groups in order to really put myself out there. I was that one quite weird kid no one really payed much attention to tbh. Now I have a couple friends in college and we try and go to parties and go out and stuff but tbh i don't fuck with it. Online dating sucks as the girls are shit quality and night life sucks more and is a waste of money if u arent a true chad or rich as fuck. Kinda depressing tbh
bro ive spent like 20 dollars total on getting drinks in the last three years of night clubs. You just gotta be social.

I swear, its like a fuckin evolutionary trait that people can detect. They know if you are cool or not. You have to force yourself to smile at people, dont be afraid to get close to females. They love attention from a strong looking dude with a smooth clean face. I mean dont disrespect them and put yourself right on them, just get near them smile

and one fuckin day, i swear, it will seem like you adapted because everyone will suddenly be more chill.

Dont get me wrong, people will always talk shit, and guy friends wont like you for getting into their groups, but you gotta have a fuckin gaston personality basically.

I always tell people, pretend you are a pirate, you have been on the water for 6 months, now you have three weeks to get some good girly action that we all need as men, and pal around with some bros which we also need as men.
 
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bro ive spent like 20 dollars total on getting drinks in the last three years of night clubs. You just gotta be social.

I swear, its like a fuckin evolutionary trait that people can detect. They know if you are cool or not. You have to force yourself to smile at people, dont be afraid to get close to females. They love attention from a strong looking dude with a smooth clean face. I mean dont disrespect them and put yourself right on them, just get near them smile

and one fuckin day, i swear, it will seem like you adapted because everyone will suddenly be more chill.

Dont get me wrong, people will always talk shit, and guy friends wont like you for getting into their groups, but you gotta have a fuckin gaston personality basically.

I always tell people, pretend you are a pirate, you have been on the water for 6 months, now you have three weeks to get some good girly action that we all need as men, and pal around with some bros which we also need as men.
Pretty good advice bro ngl thank you. Ppl here underestimate being NT so much. I def come across weird because of body language and expressions. I feel stiff and reserved around strangers, I'm very shy unironically its cringe. Ill try ur tips more and see what happens. I appreciate the encouragement tho.
 
Agree
Too bad I'm already damaged in head
 
>NOOOOOOOOOO MUH HECKIN ARYAN 1387 TRADWIFE MATERIAL WAHMEEEEEENERINOS FUCKING MUDSLIME ARAPES RAPING OUR WOMEN WE MUST SAVE OUR HYPERBOREAN LANDS AND ALWAYS SIMP FOR THEM WHENEVER THEY GET FUCKED BY NATUFIAN ALPHAS I AM LE CHAD SO WHEN I REPLY ON A 20 YEAR OLD TRANNYIME IMAGBEOARD FORUM "KILL ALL SHITSKIN MUDSLIME ARAPES" EVERYONE OF THEM WILL ALL FUCK MY 4/10 5'8 MAGGOT VOMIT FLESHED INTO A SUBHUMAN BEING IN REAL LIFE LET THEM ALSO FUCK DOGS AS WELL AS I RECORD THESE DOGFUCKIN SESSION SEXTAPES THAT IS LIKE SO VRILED AND ZVSED BEASTIALITY IS THE PURE NATURE OF THE WHITE GODDESS'S FRAGRANCE ON THIS ODEEN-GIVEN GREEN EARTH BROOOOOOOOOO #BLVCKEDBVLLVRYVNCLVSSIK
THE AMOUNT OF SUICIDALLY BEYOND MINDBROKEN NUCLEAR NAZINIGGER SEETHE KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
 
>NOOOOOOOOOO MUH HECKIN ARYAN 1387 TRADWIFE MATERIAL WAHMEEEEEENERINOS FUCKING MUDSLIME ARAPES RAPING OUR WOMEN WE MUST SAVE OUR HYPERBOREAN LANDS AND ALWAYS SIMP FOR THEM WHENEVER THEY GET FUCKED BY NATUFIAN ALPHAS I AM LE CHAD SO WHEN I REPLY ON A 20 YEAR OLD TRANNYIME IMAGBEOARD FORUM "KILL ALL SHITSKIN MUDSLIME ARAPES" EVERYONE OF THEM WILL ALL FUCK MY 4/10 5'8 MAGGOT VOMIT FLESHED INTO A SUBHUMAN BEING IN REAL LIFE LET THEM ALSO FUCK DOGS AS WELL AS I RECORD THESE DOGFUCKIN SESSION SEXTAPES THAT IS LIKE SO VRILED AND ZVSED BEASTIALITY IS THE PURE NATURE OF THE WHITE GODDESS'S FRAGRANCE ON THIS ODEEN-GIVEN GREEN EARTH BROOOOOOOOOO #BLVCKEDBVLLVRYVNCLVSSIK
THE AMOUNT OF SUICIDALLY BEYOND MINDBROKEN NUCLEAR NAZINIGGER SEETHE KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
Shut the fuck up, you absolute ass clown. You Constributed nothing at all worth any value to this thread.

Reading this retarded fucking dog shit made me nearly puke and shit my pants.

Your crazy mental narrative threw you for a schizophrenic spasm of fucktardation.


I reccomend you try some mediatation technuiqes.
 
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Go to the mall. Make friends and ignore rejections. Talk to girls.

Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.

The only real advice you can get from this forum is: Skin conditioning, bonesmashing(huge brain damage risk but without it I would be an incel) and hairstyles.

Using anti estrogen natural supplements like Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Aggrestis. There is so much plastic in the water and food that you will need natural supps.

LIFT WEIGHTS and PUNCHING BAG TRAINING.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AVOID THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE, SON, YOU WILL FUCKING REGRET THIS TOXIC SHIT HOLE SEWAGE PIT OF SUICIDALISM AND FAGGOTRY.
Unironically, based as fuck.
Looksmaxxing and going out gave me more success than sitting at home and learning about how to looksmaxx more for future gains.
 
Looksmaxxing is cope. Also, JFL at smashing your face with a hammer just to gain 0.25 PSL points :soy:. Realistically if you come across PSL websites in your teens or when you're still a virgin, it's fucking finished for you.
 
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Looksmaxxing is cope. Also, JFL at smashing your face with a hammer just to gain 0.25 PSL points :soy:. Realistically if you come across PSL websites in your teens or when you're still a virgin, it's fucking finished for you.
TheDragon
 
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Pretty sure u can't use the search bar without an account but ye, the real greycels never sign up and just bookmark threads in their browser or something. It's over for account cels
 
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Go to the mall. Make friends and ignore rejections. Talk to girls.

Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.

The only real advice you can get from this forum is: Skin conditioning, bonesmashing(huge brain damage risk but without it I would be an incel) and hairstyles.

Using anti estrogen natural supplements like Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Aggrestis. There is so much plastic in the water and food that you will need natural supps.

LIFT WEIGHTS and PUNCHING BAG TRAINING.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AVOID THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE, SON, YOU WILL FUCKING REGRET THIS TOXIC SHIT HOLE SEWAGE PIT OF SUICIDALISM AND FAGGOTRY.
im just gonna become a foid
 
I wish i spent my teen years flirting with more girls. Now it just feels like I'm making up for lost time. TBH every second of this life counts. It kills me inside that I messed up my chances with many women potentially. Do not make the same mistake users of this site. Good stuff OP.
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Pretty good advice bro ngl thank you. Ppl here underestimate being NT so much. I def come across weird because of body language and expressions. I feel stiff and reserved around strangers, I'm very shy unironically its cringe. Ill try ur tips more and see what happens. I appreciate the encouragement tho.
Same same Same
now with your chad face
Can you make her fall in love with you at first sight without do much or do you still have to do silly things like dating, talking, rizz Nt?
 
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dnr, no chin = no life
 
I got an account just for bookmarking and making votes in polling lmao
You should be fine as long as you aren't rotting here 24/7
 
I remember being bluepilled jestermaxxed14-15 yr old and there was this girl in homeroom who liked anime n shit (probably had a gangster bf), if I just took the blackpill got in shape and ntmaxxed looksmaxxed I could’ve 100% gotten her as gf
 
Same same Same
now with your chad face
Can you make her fall in love with you at first sight without do much or do you still have to do silly things like dating, talking, rizz Nt?
I still have to try with cuter girls but i can get away with a lot is what i realized. with this weak htb mulatta i straight up say some racist ass shit and talk to her like a looksmaxxer (obviously not saying n word hard er) but I'm saying lowkey racist asf stuff and she laughs all the time and touches me and initiates contact with me all the time. Still tho i have to try somewhat but it's easier to get away with more stuff. The one thing I wish is that I was more direct and assertive with girls i feel like if i was i could fuck or makeout at will with 95 percent of these girls but I'm too much of a pussy to initiate things.
 
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I still have to try with cuter girls but i can get away with a lot is what i realized. with this weak htb mulatta i straight up say some racist ass shit and talk to her like a looksmaxxer (obviously not saying n word hard er) but I'm saying lowkey racist asf stuff and she laughs all the time and touches me and initiates contact with me all the time. Still tho i have to try somewhat but it's easier to get away with more stuff. The one thing I wish is that I was more direct and assertive with girls i feel like if i was i could fuck or makeout at will with 95 percent of these girls but I'm too much of a pussy to initiate things.
All I want to say is that you are another identical version of me just in another life.
 
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I still have to try with cuter girls but i can get away with a lot is what i realized. with this weak htb mulatta i straight up say some racist ass shit and talk to her like a looksmaxxer (obviously not saying n word hard er) but I'm saying lowkey racist asf stuff and she laughs all the time and touches me and initiates contact with me all the time. Still tho i have to try somewhat but it's easier to get away with more stuff. The one thing I wish is that I was more direct and assertive with girls i feel like if i was i could fuck or makeout at will with 95 percent of these girls but I'm too much of a pussy to initiate things.
I still have to try with cuter girls but i can get away with a lot is what i realized. with this weak htb mulatta i straight up say some racist ass shit and talk to her like a looksmaxxer (obviously not saying n word hard er) but I'm saying lowkey racist asf stuff and she laughs all the time and touches me and initiates contact with me all the time. Still tho i have to try somewhat but it's easier to get away with more stuff. The one thing I wish is that I was more direct and assertive with girls i feel like if i was i could fuck or makeout at will with 95 percent of these girls but I'm too much of a pussy to initiate things.
Ha, you just me in different life.
It might be a bit personal or impolite, but I want to ask you
Has a girl ever proactively kissed you first?

a girlcomplimented you to your face saying she didn't believe there was such a handsome person?
a girl asked you for a child (prostitute)?
a girl text you first say they love you?

a girl said they wanted to kiss you, and many other things. ( they all 2-3 PSL down me) or you ever love a stacy or stacylite before

I don't want to make you uncomfortable but I simply want to know because before I used to be NT, just slightly austic, i can get many stacy, stacylite with just a little bit of flirting,
then i depressed, anxiety, ADHA and Neet my whole 20-25 year… now i mentacel, i still has many girl look at me smile, tell me i handsome, checking me, want to kiss me but i dont have any confident anymore, now i like this girl in the gym but with just cute mid-HTB i think i can’t pull, even though I know she noticed me first let alone stacy, stacylite
….
Now i have to find wife for my furture,i know i can't be satisfied with anyone except stacy or stacylite, I have 1-2 year max to looksmaxxing, statusmaxing, moneymaxxig, NTmaxxig, rizzmaxxing, friendmaxxing so i can pull stacy or stacylite
just want to share man. im all alone
 
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Try telling that to a 5'3 trucel. Your looks are your social life
 
i tried to get a life but other people weren’t willing to contribute
 
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Looksmaxxing is cope. Also, JFL at smashing your face with a hammer just to gain 0.25 PSL points :soy:. Realistically if you come across PSL websites in your teens or when you're still a virgin, it's fucking finished for you.
“17, 5'11, Hapacel”
Shocked Denzel Washington GIF by Golden Globes
 
Am I wrong?
Already been proven looksmaxxing isn’t cope for the overwhelming majority of users on this website who actually DID decide to do it and ascend past moping about the way that they looked 24/7 since the majority of the idiots here are just lazy children
 
Go to the mall. Make friends and ignore rejections. Talk to girls.

Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.

The only real advice you can get from this forum is: Skin conditioning, bonesmashing(huge brain damage risk but without it I would be an incel) and hairstyles.

Using anti estrogen natural supplements like Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Aggrestis. There is so much plastic in the water and food that you will need natural supps.

LIFT WEIGHTS and PUNCHING BAG TRAINING.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AVOID THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE, SON, YOU WILL FUCKING REGRET THIS TOXIC SHIT HOLE SEWAGE PIT OF SUICIDALISM AND FAGGOTRY.
You are my friend
 
Ha, you just me in different life.
It might be a bit personal or impolite, but I want to ask you
Has a girl ever proactively kissed you first?

a girlcomplimented you to your face saying she didn't believe there was such a handsome person?
a girl asked you for a child (prostitute)?
a girl text you first say they love you?

a girl said they wanted to kiss you, and many other things. ( they all 2-3 PSL down me) or you ever love a stacy or stacylite before

I don't want to make you uncomfortable but I simply want to know because before I used to be NT, just slightly austic, i can get many stacy, stacylite with just a little bit of flirting,
then i depressed, anxiety, ADHA and Neet my whole 20-25 year… now i mentacel, i still has many girl look at me smile, tell me i handsome, checking me, want to kiss me but i dont have any confident anymore, now i like this girl in the gym but with just cute mid-HTB i think i can’t pull, even though I know she noticed me first let alone stacy, stacylite
….
Now i have to find wife for my furture,i know i can't be satisfied with anyone except stacy or stacylite, I have 1-2 year max to looksmaxxing, statusmaxing, moneymaxxig, NTmaxxig, rizzmaxxing, friendmaxxing so i can pull stacy or stacylite
just want to share man. im all alone
Its not personal to ask no worries.
"Has a girl ever proactively kissed you first?" Yes in highschool my first girlfriend and the girl i lost my virginity too invited me over to her place and made out with me. She made all the moves and was a stacylite. I still think about her to do this.

"has a girlcomplimented you to your face saying she didn't believe there was such a handsome person?"
Ive gotten compliments before and free food from girls and fast food places but never been told they they couldn't believe there was such a handsome person lmao. Thats an insane compliment.

"a girl asked you for a child (prostitute)?"
"a girl text you first say they love you?"
No to both lmaooooo that would be wild.

a girl said they wanted to kiss you, and many other things. ( they all 2-3 PSL down me) or you ever love a stacy or stacylite before
Yes to both.

Im also mentalcel. I feel ur pain man.
 
Elaborate on bonesmahsing. I Knew I wasn't imagining my deacension from bonesmshing wrong and massive iq loss
 
Go to the mall. Make friends and ignore rejections. Talk to girls.

Have a fucking life, you stupid mother fucker.

The only real advice you can get from this forum is: Skin conditioning, bonesmashing(huge brain damage risk but without it I would be an incel) and hairstyles.

Using anti estrogen natural supplements like Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Aggrestis. There is so much plastic in the water and food that you will need natural supps.

LIFT WEIGHTS and PUNCHING BAG TRAINING.

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, AVOID THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF YOUR LIFE, SON, YOU WILL FUCKING REGRET THIS TOXIC SHIT HOLE SEWAGE PIT OF SUICIDALISM AND FAGGOTRY.
Talking or flirting with girls is illegal in America unless you are pre selected
 
I agree with thread title, but the full post is a shitshow
 

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