IPD is what determines whether you have a good base for surgery or not

[Greeicy]

A low IPD = no hope of going up even 0.1 points through surgerymaxxing unless you somehow manage to get an orbital box osteotomy. A long nose is nowhere near as bad as a low IPD.

Do you think this guy would get any benefit whatsoever from a rhinoplasty and bimax + implants? His PSL rating wouldn’t even FLINCH unless he gets a modified lefort 3 or an orbital box osteotomy. And no, ES ratio doesn’t matter in this case...why? Well, a bad ES ratio caused by a wide zygos is easily fixable through zygoma reduction. A bad ES ratio caused by a low IPD requires orbital box osteotomy, which is a pipe dream.

TL;DR : Sub 6cm IPD cels with bad ES ratio must give up on surgery and just try to be bluepilled normies instead.

 

[Deleted member 5349]

A good ipd just looks so harmonious. IPD is so important. JFL that other human beings will determine your worth based on how far apart your eyes are. We are such a stupid species and deserve to go extinct

 

[Deleted member 3043]

cope

A good ipd just looks so harmonious. IPD is so important. JFL that other human beings will determine your worth based on how far apart your eyes are. We are such a stupid species and deserve to go extinct

yes true. thankfully i have good ipd near perfect ngl. but we are Bad people

 

[Greeicy]

cope

IPD is literally everything and basically what determines if you have any hope of ascending. Look at Toni Mahfud...long nose but wide IPD so he still managed to ascend through surgery anyways.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

IPD is literally everything and basically what determines if you have any hope of ascending. Look at Toni Mahfud...long nose but wide IPD so he still managed to ascend through surgery anyways.

don't look that wide of ipd..sub 68mm for sure

 

[Greeicy]

don't look that wide of ipd..sub 68mm for sure

6cm IPD is enough to look human with a good ES ratio. Toni Mahfud’s IPD is definitely above average...68mms is like top 5%.

 

[Deleted member 5349]

6cm IPD is enough to look human with a good ES ratio. Toni Mahfud’s IPD is definitely above average...68mms is like top 5%.

If it’s too long, it makes you look like a fish tho

 

[Deleted member 3202]

don't look that wide of ipd..sub 68mm for sure

My IPD is 6.3-6.4 with a zygomatic breadth of 14.5. . . . . But it doesn't look bad for some reason.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

don't look that wide of ipd..sub 68mm for sure

Sub 58 more like it

 

[Deleted member 3202]

6cm IPD is enough to look human with a good ES ratio. Toni Mahfud’s IPD is definitely above average...68mms is like top 5%.

5.9cms is the minimum, and 5.4-5.5cms if you have a smaller skull size such as Somerhalder.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

My IPD is 6.3-6.4 with a zygomatic breadth of 14.5. . . . . But it doesn't look bad for some reason.

Mine is the same

Looks ok from some pics and slightly bad in some pics

 

[Deleted member 3043]

My IPD is 6.3-6.4 with a zygomatic breadth of 14.5. . . . . But it doesn't look bad for some reason.

14.5 is still in averagish percentile so is your ipd. if it was 15 or more it would have been Bad.
i have legit 15 to 15.5 cm zygoma and 68-69 ipd and it only looks normal.

 

[Greeicy]

My IPD is 6.3-6.4 with a zygomatic breadth of 14.5. . . . . But it doesn't look bad for some reason.

JFL 68mms is literally top 5%. Your IPD is average which is more than enough to look good. I think shit starts going south at sub 6cm, depending on ES ratio but honestly it’s so rare to find a person with sub 6cm IPD with good ES ratio unless their FHWR is super low.

 

[Deleted member 2205]

high PFL/large orbitals can halo ugly people to average as well, even if they have average eye shape. It's why people call faces "harmonious" when everything looks normal.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

14.5 is still in averagish percentile so is your ipd. if it was 15 or more it would have been Bad.
i have legit 15 to 15.5 cm zygoma and 68-69 ipd and it only looks normal.

Isn't 13.5 average? I thought that 14-15cms was wide.

And a 6.3cm IPD with a 15cm is right next door to incel tier, but it's still within the acceptable (not ideal, but still acceptable range) range of 0.42-0.44.

 

[Greeicy]

high PFL/large orbitals can halo ugly people to average as well, even if they have average eye shape. It's why people call faces "harmonious" when everything looks normal.

You gotta have an abnormally wide PFL for your eye spacing to look normal with subhuman IPD. IPD >>>> PFL.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

JFL 68mms is literally top 5%. Your IPD is average which is more than enough to look good. I think shit starts going south at sub 6cm, depending on ES ratio but honestly it’s so rare to find a person with sub 6cm IPD with good ES ratio unless their FHWR is super low.

Rob Lowe is sub 60 I believe.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Isn't 13.5 average? I thought that 14-15cms was wide.

And a 6.3cm IPD with a 15cm is right next door to incel tier, but it's still within the acceptable (not ideal, but still acceptable range) range of 0.42-0.44.

i've read average was between 13.7 and 14
14.5 should be 70th percentile.

yes you'r right.

You gotta have an abnormally wide PFL for your eye spacing to look normal with subhuman IPD. IPD >>>> PFL.

just have strabism bro to widen ipd theory

 

[Deleted member 2205]

You gotta have an abnormally wide PFL for your eye spacing to look normal with subhuman IPD. IPD >>>> PFL.

Most people have good IPD, but average PFL.

IPD is more of a failo or not failo. It won't halo someone on its own.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

You gotta have an abnormally wide PFL for your eye spacing to look normal with subhuman IPD. IPD >>>> PFL.

What's your PFL? Mines 3.0-3.1cms.

 

[Greeicy]

What's your PFL? Mines 30-31cms.

I honestly don’t know. I have been told it’s wide but I don’t have access to a ruler. I think it’s probably above average.

But my IPD is only 6cm which is what failos my eye area the hardest.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

I honestly don’t know. I have been told it’s wide but I don’t have access to a ruler. I think it’s probably above average.
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But my IPD is only 6cm which is what failos my eye area the hardest.

Golly fuck, good eye area bro, the 60cm IPD is unfortunate, still looks good though.

 

[Greeicy]

Golly fuck, good eye area bro, the 60cm IPD is unfortunate, still looks good though.

I guess i’m saved by eye area but honestly my nose is so long and my IPD is below average which makes my midface subhuman and prevents me from entering Chad territory.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

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I guess i’m saved by eye area but honestly my nose is so long and my IPD is below average which makes my midface subhuman and prevents me from entering Chad territory.

Nah, It think it's your eye shape + PFL saving you. very good-looking indeed.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

I honestly don’t know. I have been told it’s wide but I don’t have access to a ruler. I think it’s probably above average.
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But my IPD is only 6cm which is what failos my eye area the hardest.

prolly 34-35 mm

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

A low IPD = no hope of going up even 0.1 points through surgerymaxxing unless you somehow manage to get an orbital box osteotomy. A long nose is nowhere near as bad as a low IPD.
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Do you think this guy would get any benefit whatsoever from a rhinoplasty and bimax + implants? His PSL rating wouldn’t even FLINCH unless he gets a modified lefort 3 or an orbital box osteotomy. And no, ES ratio doesn’t matter in this case...why? Well, a bad ES ratio caused by a wide zygos is easily fixable through zygoma reduction. A bad ES ratio caused by a low IPD requires orbital box osteotomy, which is a pipe dream.

TL;DR : Sub 6cm IPD cels with bad ES ratio must give up on surgery and just try to be bluepilled normies instead.

 

[Greeicy]

my IPD is 68mm but I'm a KHHTV virgin because I'm a sub5 ethnic

You should be glad that your IPD is wide + you have good ES ratio because it gives you a very good base for surgerymaxxing. The real unfortunate ones are those with a subhuman IPD.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

my IPD is 68mm but I'm a KHHTV virgin because I'm a sub5 ethnic

How'd the invasive surgery go? Did you get it yet?

 

[Short Ugly and Brown]

You should be glad that your IPD is wide + you have good ES ratio because it gives you a very good base for surgerymaxxing. The real unfortunate ones are those with a subhuman IPD.

How'd the invasive surgery go? Did you get it yet?

 

[Greeicy]

my bizygomatic breadth is fucking 133mm how is that a good ES ratio???

my parents won't let me get surgery, I've already accepted ill never have love from a woman, It is what it is when you are ugly and ethnic like me

Your eye spacing is fine. You have good base for surgery.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

my bizygomatic breadth is fucking 133mm how is that a good ES ratio???

my parents won't let me get surgery, I've already accepted ill never have love from a woman, It is what it is when you are ugly and ethnic like me

Nope, move out and get MSE + facepuller + MSDO + IMDO (possible skull implant from Eppley as well).

 

[Greeicy]

Nope, move out and get MSE + facepuller + MSDO + IMDO (possible skull implant from Eppley as well).

He should just work part time and save up.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

Personally I'm beginning to think a long midface is not as bad a failio as some other things

Ipd, pfl, recession/lack of forward growth play a bigger part

You probably cant be PSL 6+ with a long midface, but you can be 5.5-5.75

 

[didntreadlol]

Indeed. Literally the only thing you need for a good base is good ratios

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

5.9cms is the minimum, and 5.4-5.5cms if you have a smaller skull size such as Somerhalder.

About 57mm is the minimum
Tyler Maher has a 57mm IPD and looks amazing still

 

[Deleted member 3962]

A good ipd just looks so harmonious. IPD is so important. JFL that other human beings will determine your worth based on how far apart your eyes are. We are such a stupid species and deserve to go extinct

a good es ratio looks so harmonious*

55mm ipd+ 25.5mm PFL:

Personally I'm beginning to think a long midface is not as bad a failio as some other things

Ipd, pfl, recession/lack of forward growth play a bigger part

You probably cant be PSL 6+ with a long midface, but you can be 5.5-5.75

find me a horsefacecel as good looking as these ipdcels:

 

[Dutcher]

68 ipd... Good or bad?

 

[Deleted member 3962]

68 ipd... Good or bad?

Probably bad unless you have a bizygomatic breadth of 15.25cm+

You gotta have an abnormally wide PFL for your eye spacing to look normal with subhuman IPD. IPD >>>> PFL.

Huge PFL+ average IPD looks like low IPD

Huge PFL is only good if ur ipd is enough to compensate it

 

[Dutcher]

Probably bad unless you have a bizygomatic breadth of 15.25cm+

Huge PFL+ average IPD looks like low IPD

Huge PFL is only good if ur ipd is enough to compensate it

Well my ES ratio is 48 i was never called dolphin nor look like i have wide set eyes... my pfl is also pretty good tbh

 

[Deleted member 3962]

Well my ES ratio is 48 i was never called dolphin nor look like i have wide set eyes... my pfl is also pretty good tbh

sounds like a dolphin tbh

 

[Chadelite]

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[Dutcher]

sounds like a dolphin tbh

Ogre

 

[PenileFacialSurgery]

A Lefort would help, get a better mid face ratio and FHWR, that’s what matters most.

Look at Ian Homdersandler

“can’t go up even 0.1” is just fucking stupid.

A good ipd just looks so harmonious. IPD is so important. JFL that other human beings will determine your worth based on how far apart your eyes are. We are such a stupid species and deserve to go extinct

If you have shit IPD, you have poor craniofacial development, which means shit genes along with health, which is why your genes will die off so others with good bone development can help our species survive.

 

[Nisse]

Is 65mm ipd good? My cheekbones are 15-16 cm wide

 

[YoungRichNigga]

thank god i have good IPD but a shit lower third thats easy to fix

 

[Greeicy]

a good es ratio looks so harmonious*

55mm ipd+ 25.5mm PFL:
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find me a horsefacecel as good looking as these ipdcels:
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They look good because they have a good ES ratio. Read my post again, I was talking about a low ES ratio caused by low IPD.

 

[SayNoToRotting]

Tyler Maher has a 57mm IPD and looks amazing still

That is not 57. 58 is already first percentile.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

That is not 57. 58 is already first percentile.

Did u measure it?

 

[SayNoToRotting]

Did u measure it?

What kind of question is that? Did he go into your office to get it measured by you personally?

 

[DianabolDownie]

high ass es ratio and lack of nasion definition hides my low-ish ipd, it still doesnt look ideal but its at least acceptable