Is it true that religion was debunked by science and then they backtracked their beliefs?

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Is it true that religion was debunked by science and then they backtracked their beliefs? like when science debunked with evolution? This should be the final nail in the coffin for religion
 
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no
science is the new religion
 
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Religion will always exist for people to cope with their after death thoughts.
 
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Modern ethics (coddling, positive reinforcement, anti bigotry, anti bullying) replaced religion
 
lol no. Science isn't close to "debunking" religion when they can't answer questions like "how did life start" and "how did the universe start".

muh primordial soup brah
 
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Modern ethics (coddling, positive reinforcement, anti bigotry, anti bullying) replaced religion
No it didn't. Religion supported all of that stuff.

What really "replaced religion" is people wanting to be sinful without being shamed for it. People wanted to partake in homosexual intercourse, having kids out of wedlock, sex before marriage, tattoos, etc and religion didn't condone it so they changed their beliefs to a materialist one.
 
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No it didn't. Religion supported all of that stuff.

What really "replaced religion" is people wanting to be sinful without being shamed for it. People wanted to partake in homosexual intercourse, having kids out of wedlock, sex before marriage, tattoos, etc and religion didn't condone it so they changed their beliefs to a materialist one.

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Is it true that religion was debunked by science and then they backtracked their beliefs? like when science debunked with evolution? This should be the final nail in the coffin for religion
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lol no. Science isn't close to "debunking" religion when they can't answer questions like "how did life start" and "how did the universe start".

muh primordial soup brah
idiot, religion gives useless answers like (embarrassingly) obviously made up stories. Science gives answers like, its impossible to determine and doesnt matter.
 
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No it didn't. Religion supported all of that stuff.

What really "replaced religion" is people wanting to be sinful without being shamed for it. People wanted to partake in homosexual intercourse, having kids out of wedlock, sex before marriage, tattoos, etc and religion didn't condone it so they changed their beliefs to a materialist one.
everyone became religious because science was yet to debunk religion and now its just the residue of pre science believers latching onto religion
 
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everyone became religious because science was yet to debunk religion and now its just the residue of pre science believers latching onto religion
Not true at all. Normies don't look into science and theories. They just follow what their peers are doing. Corporations pushed degeneracy because it makes more money and people flocked to it because nobody (including lazy american parents) was pushing proper values to stop them from acting on their sins.

Science hasn't discovered anything in science that would lead to less religion since ~1920 when they came up with the big bang theory (which a Christian priest found). So why is it that every boomer is still religious?

Evolution has been around since the mid 1800s but yet we only started to fall to degeneracy after mass media and global corporations arose who clearly profit off it.
idiot, religion gives useless answers like (embarrassingly) obviously made up stories. Science gives answers like, its impossible to determine and doesnt matter.
No it doesn't. Sounds like redditor cope. The stories aren't made up and there's stories and evidence from other civilizations at the same timeframe that lots of things happened.

Scientists have also confirmed that there's 0 way that the universe and life could've arisen from a materialist framework, which is why they came up with theories like the multiverse, which is basically the same thing as God but replacing morality with randomness.
 
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lol no. Science isn't close to "debunking" religion when they can't answer questions like "how did life start" and "how did the universe start".

muh primordial soup brah
"ermm actually, there was a BIG BANG! and thats how the universe started... sure theres no reason as to how and why it happened, just trust the science!"


this is how atheists sound lmao
 
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lol no. Science isn't close to "debunking" religion when they can't answer questions like "how did life start" and "how did the universe start".

muh primordial soup brah

Just because we dont know, and science doesnt have all the answers, does not mean you should assume that supernatural and divine forces orchestrated the creation of anything. There is no credible evidence to suggest that there exist something "supernatural". The natural is all we know of. Probably because that is all there is to this universe
 
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Is it true that religion was debunked by science and then they backtracked their beliefs? like when science debunked with evolution? This should be the final nail in the coffin for religion

And yeah, alot of moderate religious people just pick and choose what they like, but there are a tiny inority that believe the earth is 6000 years old or some nonsense that they read and interpreted as written. But most chrisitans at least believe in evolution, believe the advancement in technology brought on by scientific inquiry. Yet when it comes to believing in something invisible, omnipotent is our lord, all intellectual capacity and reasoning is discarded
 
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Believers will never cease to be the majority, what will come down is institutionalized religion. I speak of west
 
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reality is beyond your understanding
 
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Just because we dont know, and science doesnt have all the answers, does not mean you should assume that supernatural and divine forces orchestrated the creation of anything. There is no credible evidence to suggest that there exist something "supernatural". The natural is all we know of. Probably because that is all there is to this universe
It's impossible to solve it in a materialist framework (aka modern science). Science only examines this universe and has no ground on anything before it. Therefore it's a purely philosophical question and a matter of your own values whether you believe in God or multiverse/etc.
 
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"ermm actually, there was a BIG BANG! and thats how the universe started... sure theres no reason as to how and why it happened, just trust the science!"


this is how atheists sound lmao
For there to be a big bang, there has to be a banger. Seculars believe in the multiverse (all powerful self-created system capable of creating universes) while religious people believe in God (all powerful self-created system capable of creating universes). The difference is that one is autistically and randomly generating universes with random properties while the other fine tunes them. Both are completely plausible but it's a matter of your own values that decides which you personally choose to believe in.
 
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For there to be a big bang, there has to be a banger. Seculars believe in the multiverse (all powerful self-created system capable of creating universes) while religious people believe in God (all powerful self-created system capable of creating universes). The difference is that one is autistically and randomly generating universes with random properties while the other fine tunes them. Both are completely plausible but it's a matter of your own values that decides which you personally choose to believe in.
Wouldnt say that they are both plausible. A "God" is implausible with the current understanding of our universe. Granted there is yet much to be discovered, but after several hundred years of scientific research, there is nothing to even remotely suggest the presence of any divinity
 
Evolution is a lie.

Natural selection is legit
 
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Wouldnt say that they are both plausible. A "God" is implausible with the current understanding of our universe. Granted there is yet much to be discovered, but after several hundred years of scientific research, there is nothing to even remotely suggest the presence of any divinity
How is multiverse, artificial insemination, simulation theory, etc any more plausible than God? I love how you put God in quotation marks to try and sound intellectual when you have done 0 research and just regurgitate typical leftist talking points to continue their degeneracy without consequences.

You make a critical mistake of using the universe's laws to try and figure out what caused the universe to come to exist. It makes no sense at all.

How does consciousness, objective morality, fine-tuning, the bible's values still holding to be true today, etc not suggest a presence of divinity?
 
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"ermm actually, there was a BIG BANG! and thats how the universe started... sure theres no reason as to how and why it happened, just trust the science!"


this is how atheists sound lmao
its called being logical and believing in the more probable answer. No religious person would bet on their religion being correct, they believe in it for fun
 
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Not true at all. Normies don't look into science and theories. They just follow what their peers are doing. Corporations pushed degeneracy because it makes more money and people flocked to it because nobody (including lazy american parents) was pushing proper values to stop them from acting on their sins.

Science hasn't discovered anything in science that would lead to less religion since ~1920 when they came up with the big bang theory (which a Christian priest found). So why is it that every boomer is still religious?

Evolution has been around since the mid 1800s but yet we only started to fall to degeneracy after mass media and global corporations arose who clearly profit off it.

No it doesn't. Sounds like redditor cope. The stories aren't made up and there's stories and evidence from other civilizations at the same timeframe that lots of things happened.

Scientists have also confirmed that there's 0 way that the universe and life could've arisen from a materialist framework, which is why they came up with theories like the multiverse, which is basically the same thing as God but replacing morality with randomness.
dude dna sampling was invented in like 1990 and it took some time for evolution and other science to be fully proven.
Religion being debunked = people realizing theres a provable scientific explanation of how the earth came to be and how evolution works. in 1950 the science didnt exist
 
dude dna sampling was invented in like 1990 and it took some time for evolution and other science to be fully proven.
Religion being debunked = people realizing theres a provable scientific explanation of how the earth came to be and how evolution works. in 1950 the science didnt exist
The science of evolution has existed since the 1850s. Nazis literally used it as the backbone for their ideology.

Also, evolution isn't "fully proven". That's only something that someone who has no scientific background would say. Nothing in science can be proven without enough evidence.

Nobody can name a single scientific explanation of how the earth came to be and how evolution works that wasn't theorized pre 1920s. Also, you do realize that people still believe in a higher power, right? It's just hidden under the guise of generic "spirituality" by feminist foids who want the benefits of God without having to suppress their urges to ride Chad's cock without fear of sin.

This is a reddit-tier argument.
 
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You can choose to all abstract ideals such as religion, science, racism, anti-racism, etc. They are all sacred spooks floating in the air around humans. It really doesn't even matter what others think of science and religion, free your own ego and disregard all of these ideas to benefit yourself.
 
How is multiverse, artificial insemination, simulation theory, etc any more plausible than God? I love how you put God in quotation marks to try and sound intellectual when you have done 0 research and just regurgitate typical leftist talking points to continue their degeneracy without consequences.

You make a critical mistake of using the universe's laws to try and figure out what caused the universe to come to exist. It makes no sense at all.

How does consciousness, objective morality, fine-tuning, the bible's values still holding to be true today, etc not suggest a presence of divinity?
I have done plenty of research. I have a scientific background. Maybe some leftist faggot says the same. But I approach all my work in a materialistic way, because that is all we know of.

I am a determinist. Objective morality does not exist. Fine tuning, lol.
The Bible’s values hold true. Bitch if we administered the sick, perverted Shit on people they did when they didn’t cherry pick. You would be on Death Row.
 
I have done plenty of research. I have a scientific background. Maybe some leftist faggot says the same. But I approach all my work in a materialistic way, because that is all we know of.
So how can you use the laws of matter in this universe to try and prove what happened before it? Makes 0 sense.
I am a determinist. Objective morality does not exist. Fine tuning, lol.
The Bible’s values hold true. Bitch if we administered the sick, perverted Shit on people they did when they didn’t cherry pick. You would be on Death Row.
Objective morality does exist. Everyone knows what's right and wrong and every society has had the same morals. When people did bad things, they knew it was bad. You basically see the same morals across every civilization across the world and if you use reason, everyone will come to the same moral values.

Why are you lol-ing at fine tuning? There's like a 1/1,100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000+ chance that our laws of physics aligned in a way that the universe doesn't implode, much less host life. That's why scientists had to conjure up the multiverse theory and other bullshit theories that are essentially the same thing as God to explain it.
 
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So how can you use the laws of matter in this universe to try and prove what happened before it? Makes 0 sense.

Objective morality does exist. Everyone knows what's right and wrong and every society has had the same morals. When people did bad things, they knew it was bad. You basically see the same morals across every civilization across the world and if you use reason, everyone will come to the same moral values.

Why are you lol-ing at fine tuning? There's like a 1/1,100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000+ chance that our laws of physics aligned in a way that the universe doesn't implode, much less host life. That's why scientists had to conjure up the multiverse theory and other bullshit theories that are essentially the same thing as God to explain it.
There are hypotesies to the origin of the universe. They agree upon the age of this universe. But I find the oscillating universe theory interesting.

We were fortunate to inhabit a planet that is reasonably fairly placed.

And no, what you think is right,
Others think is wrong. We are slaves to our biology. Free will does not exist. And the only good Commie is one that is dead
 
Too much science is a bad religion
Too much religion bad
 
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Legit, they get debunked 24/7 and just change the story lmao
 
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lol no. Science isn't close to "debunking" religion when they can't answer questions like "how did life start" and "how did the universe start".

muh primordial soup brah
The problem with this narrative is people are debunking specific testable propositions made by existing religions

They don't claim to know the mysteries of the universe
 
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Is it true that religion was debunked by science and then they backtracked their beliefs?
No, in general. because religion people 9at the top) are stubborn. And the purpose of religion is coping, not truth

science is the new religion
legit point.
a good part of current research. Is heavily influenced by "political" or "social" believes.
entering, where they just look to confirm their beleives about society, people, and so on.

Some science fields, are luckily less manipulated.
but pshychology, social, gender, balblabla research stduies; ARE FUCKED. Rune by a bunch of feminazis
 
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There are hypotesies to the origin of the universe. They agree upon the age of this universe. But I find the oscillating universe theory interesting.

We were fortunate to inhabit a planet that is reasonably fairly placed.

And no, what you think is right,
Others think is wrong. We are slaves to our biology. Free will does not exist. And the only good Commie is one that is dead
We clearly have free-will. The Libet studies were clearly flawed and neuroscientists don't even cite it anymore.

You sound like someone who took 1 science class at a low-class liberal college and think you know shit when you have done 0 research.
 
The only religion the masses should follow is that of the CCP
 
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We clearly have free-will. The Libet studies were clearly flawed and neuroscientists don't even cite it anymore.

You sound like someone who took 1 science class at a low-class liberal college and think you know shit when you have done 0 research.
Yes that study was flawed but there have been newer studies, that suggests no free will.

And no I was properly trained in biochem and neurobiology.

Also I would say the consensus among neuroscientist is some form of deterministic view of the universe, ie no free will
 
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Yes that study was flawed but there have been newer studies, that suggests no free will.

And no I was properly trained in biochem and neurobiology
Every single study that provides evidence for no free will has another study that provides evidence for it. It's even close to "proven". You're just a typical mindless atheist who thinks you know shit when you don't.

Properly trained in them but you don't even know what you're talking about lmfao :feelsuhh:. Explain consciousness and split brain functionality to me if you're properly trained from a materialist framework.
 
The problem with this narrative is people are debunking specific testable propositions made by existing religions
Such as what?
They don't claim to know the mysteries of the universe
But if it's scientifically impossible to figure out the mysteries of the universe from a materialist viewpoint, then how can you make a claim that science has overtaken religion?
 
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Every single study that provides evidence for no free will has another study that provides evidence for it. It's even close to "proven". You're just a typical mindless atheist who thinks you know shit when you don't.

Properly trained in them but you don't even know what you're talking about lmfao :feelsuhh:. Explain consciousness and split brain functionality to me if you're properly trained from a materialist framework.

I have not seen any studies that nearly proves free will.

I know what I'm talking about. I did not learn anything about us having a free will. I learned that the cognition is a result of electrochemistry in the brain.

Funnt thing I heard about split brains (people with Corpus Callosum cut) is, that each half develops its own "personality". One half might believe in god but the other wont. Not exactly free
 
I have not seen any studies that nearly proves free will.
Tons of them. Even the Libet studies proved free will in one of the experiments.
I know what I'm talking about. I did not learn anything about us having a free will. I learned that the cognition is a result of electrochemistry in the brain.
Ok? That's the most vague answer ever. Electrochemistry somehow manages to turn a completely physical object into a sentient being. Wow bro, religion debunked :soy:.
Funnt thing I heard about split brains (people with Corpus Callosum cut) is, that each half develops its own "personality". One half might believe in god but the other wont. Not exactly free
Not true at all. They don't have 2 separate personalities, they still function exactly the same with slight changes to their overall personality and both sides of the brain were still able to interact with each other in ways that shouldn't be possible from a neuroscience standpoint.
 
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Tons of them. Even the Libet studies proved free will in one of the experiments.

Ok? That's the most vague answer ever. Electrochemistry somehow manages to turn a completely physical object into a sentient being. Wow bro, religion debunked :soy:.

Not true at all. They don't have 2 separate personalities, they still function exactly the same with slight changes to their overall personality and both sides of the brain were still able to interact with each other in ways that shouldn't be possible from a neuroscience standpoint.

Yes i know its vague because cognition and consciousness is far from understood. The current understanding is that there is nothing but physical matter that governs the brain.

No I know they don't get two different personalities as such (hence I "personality". But their hemispheres won't always agree.

What if someone suffers a stroke or other brain damage. They might lose their capacity to remember certain things, they might be unable to recognize any face or cant find the right words. So it is absolutely clear that the brain plays an instrumental part in cognition. Where does the undiscovered entity (soul if you will), that gives us free will fit into this? Or even disorders such as OCD, anxiety or depression. If you have free will those should be an easy fix, no
 
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Yes i know its vague because cognition and consciousness is far from understood. The current understanding is that there is nothing but physical matter that governs the brain.
You say this so authoritatively when you admit it's far from understood and no one can even begin to explain consciousness from a material standpoint. Typical reddit-tier atheist.
No I know they don't get two different personalities as such (hence I "personality". But their hemispheres won't always agree.

What if someone suffers a stroke or other brain damage. They might lose their capacity to remember certain things, they might be unable to recognize any face or cant find the right words. So it is absolutely clear that the brain plays an instrumental part in cognition. Where does the undiscovered entity (soul if you will), that gives us free will fit into this? Or even disorders such as OCD, anxiety or depression. If you have free will those should be an easy fix, no
Memory and physical computation /= consciousness. Even people who are asleep, under anesthesia, vegetative state, etc still have some level of consciousness, just not memory.

OCD, anxiety, and depression are first-world zoomer "disorders". Weak teenagers with 0 willpower who need to rely on medicine instead of training themselves to stop it. Same with ADHD. Just lazy parents who let their kids do whatever they want unchecked and then expect them to be quiet and behaved in school. They're learned "disorders" and are fully curable, JFL at using that as an argument against free will.
 
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You say this so authoritatively when you admit it's far from understood and no one can even begin to explain consciousness from a material standpoint. Typical reddit-tier atheist.

Memory and physical computation /= consciousness. Even people who are asleep, under anesthesia, vegetative state, etc still have some level of consciousness, just not memory.

OCD, anxiety, and depression are first-world zoomer "disorders". Weak teenagers with 0 willpower who need to rely on medicine instead of training themselves to stop it. Same with ADHD. Just lazy parents who let their kids do whatever they want unchecked and then expect them to be quiet and behaved in school. They're learned "disorders" and are fully curable, JFL at using that as an argument against free will.

No there is no full explanation to it, but as technology advances we can scan brains and see what happens under various circumstances.
I'm no reddit tier atheist. I am open minded to any evidence that proves me wrong. But I have never seen any of the sort.

I would disagree with that being lack of "willpower". Many mental disorders are caused by various brain structure differences, which often can be cured, yes.

An example could be people which have a high density of 5HT2A receptors in various parts of the brain, are much more prone to anxiety and panic disorders. You don't just think a panic attack away.

Never mind tho. We will disagree.
 
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Such as what?

But if it's scientifically impossible to figure out the mysteries of the universe from a materialist viewpoint, then how can you make a claim that science has overtaken religion?
earth 6000 years old, humans and animals came into existence as is, huge flood of the earth, moon emits light, etc

I'm not talking about anything overtaking anything. just pointing out that mocking organised religions is entirely justified
 
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earth 6000 years old, humans and animals came into existence as is, huge flood of the earth, moon emits light, etc

I'm not talking about anything overtaking anything. just pointing out that mocking organised religions is entirely justified
The bible never said any of that. Those are redditor atheist talking points that are entirely inaccurate.
 
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The bible never said any of that. Those are redditor atheist talking points that are entirely inaccurate.
yes it does retard

lmfao at getting outwitted by redditors
 
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yes it does retard

lmfao at getting outwitted by redditors
No it doesn't. Cite any of the lines that say the Earth is 6000 years old. I will wait.
 
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No it doesn't. Cite any of the lines that say the Earth is 6000 years old. I will wait.
it isn't explicitly stated but it is implied with the timeline, denying this is pure cope

and it's not the only mistake
 

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