Is our real problem low exposure to girls rather than low looks?

[thereallegend]

Go outside and there are no chads- Yet every normie has a gf?

The normies w/out Gfs fade into obscurity after high school

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

In a club face matters little. It's about being tall and jacked

Not jacked. Just be a beanpole. Very tall lanklets (6'5+), just stand in the middle of the dance floor not doing anything and wait for girls' to approach them. Assuming they have a normie FACE, girls' will approach them eventually.

They also get really pushy and shovy just because they are a lanky pos.

 

[ascension]

A lot of girls are very lonely

 

[Britmaxxer]

this is why I am going to join my universities commie society. fuck it.

 

[Pakicel]

100,000 UK town lol.
There just seems to be cute girls everywhere here. Which sounds great, but it's just frustrating tbh.
Something in the water!

You claim to be ugly so how do you feel about leaving the house or just looking in the mirror when you are getting ready? Don't you get depressed looking at your face.

 

[Ken]

Yes. Exposure is required to get HQNP's that arent on dating apps. These females are the only ones that matter. The only way to get one is to work with one or have a class with one. The older you get the harder it is.

 

[RAITEIII]

If you’re barely ever to exposed to girls to meet irl what’s the chances of finding a girl to date? Maybe this our problem rather than looks

Yh. If I had nice exposure id probably find smth nice but idk bro its hard.

 

[wristcel]

You claim to be ugly so how do you feel about leaving the house or just looking in the mirror when you are getting ready? Don't you get depressed looking at your face.

Mildly depressed. I'm not a gargoyle, but i'm also not 'good looking'.
I know I have like a 1 in a thousand shot of banging a girl like the ones i posted above, but i've done it before. Live in hope!

 

[Pakicel]

Mildly depressed. I'm not a gargoyle, but i'm also not 'good looking'.
I know I have like a 1 in a thousand shot of banging a girl like the ones i posted above, but i've done it before. Live in hope!

What about when you go to a club and see chads? Does that make you feel bad? Seeing tall gl white guys makes me depressed tbh. It's one of the reasons I avoid going out

 

[wristcel]

What about when you go to a club and see chads? Does that make you feel bad? Seeing tall gl white guys makes me depressed tbh. It's one of the reasons I avoid going out

i feel that i rarely see chads, tbh.
Although i see a SHIT tonne of girls who i think are hot af which is always frustrating.
I saw an unbelievable blonde teen last night who I couldn't stop thinking about lol

and then about 30 or so of these types of girls who might not be much by looksmax standards, but i think they're cute. In fact, i'm pretty sure i actually saw the girl from pic 8 in the pink dress last night

 

[Deleted member 16944]

it's cope. i can call girls from my window and they're down to come at my house.

This is the guy who had one tinder date in his entire life

 

[Deleted member 16944]

i feel that i rarely see chads, tbh.
Although i see a SHIT tonne of girls who i think are hot af which is always frustrating.
I saw an unbelievable blonde teen last night who I couldn't stop thinking about lol

and then about 30 or so of these types of girls who might not be much by looksmax standards, but i think they're cute. In fact, i'm pretty sure i actually saw the girl from pic 8 in the pink dress last night

You either have the phenotype that these girls like, or you don't. Unfortunately I don't. Never had a single shred of interest from girls like this in my life and it annoys me so fucking much. They want low-class typical brit pheno

 

[Deleted member 16944]

Also this thread is legit. For average guys to get a truly hot girl, you really need to be around them frequently over the longer term so that they can warm to you over time (mere exposure effect). This is why these environments are the best:

- High school
- Uni
- Work

V.S. the worst for anyone sub7 =

- Cold approach
- Tinder

 

[JBcollector]

If you’re barely ever to exposed to girls to meet irl what’s the chances of finding a girl to date? Maybe this our problem rather than looks

I would say both a combination of low exposure to women social circles and lack of looks height pheno

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Also this thread is legit. For average guys to get a truly hot girl, you really need to be around them frequently over the longer term so that they can warm to you over time (mere exposure effect). This is why these environments are the best:

- High school
- Uni
- Work

V.S. the worst for anyone sub7 =

- Cold approach
- Tinder

But when you’ve finished uni and don’t have a workplace full of women cold approaching or OLD are basically your only options

 

[Deleted member 16944]

But when you’ve finished uni and don’t have a workplace full of women cold approaching or OLD are basically your only options

Yep, basically. That's why once you reach 23/24 and you're out of those environments it's very fucking hard.

But the userbase of this forum is majority teens / early 20s so they are still able to take advantage of those.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Yep, basically. That's why once you reach 23/24 and you're out of those environments it's very fucking hard.

But the userbase of this forum is majority teens / early 20s so they are still able to take advantage of those.

My whole life I never really got to take advantage of these environments only for 1 year

Incel throughout school years, gf first year of uni, 2nd year of uni I was single had 2 slays, 3rd year covid hit which was RIP social circle and goingout

It never began for me

 

[Deleted member 13158]

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I don’t believe that ogre at all lol

 

[Mongrelcel]

Clubs and bars no one even talks to each other, it's just people huddled in circles with their friends and even if you do approach like any social person would, people can be so rude and act as if you're the weird one

it's the same in Eastern Europe

and I think it's the same almost everywhere

 

[Mongrelcel]

If you are at uni you need to be part of a society, something where there will be many women such as a sports society, rave society etc- obvs make it something you enjoy too

there is no such things - all of these "social groups" are full of boomers (or men)
be it language learning, or sports, or literally anything you can fucking think of

unless, of course, its a club on campus, or for students
buts I count that as UNI

 

[....]

are you a fellow UKcel too? I just finished uni, and no woman has ever approached me during the day. Only at house parties and clubs have I been approached.

Can tell you are not from London. Girls are less reserved and more low inhibition in London and will approach during the day if you are good looking. Just walk through a high street in London

 

[Deleted member 15674]

Can tell you are not from London. Girls are less reserved and more low inhibition in London and will approach during the day if you are good looking. Just walk through a high street in London

Yeah I'm not from london lol

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Can tell you are not from London. Girls are less reserved and more low inhibition in London and will approach during the day if you are good looking. Just walk through a high street in London

This is absolute bollocks

If anyting it’s the opposite- Londoners have a reputation throughout the country for being more reserved, busy and ruder- whole people say northerners are more friendly

I think it’s pretty unlikely you’ll get cold appaorached on the streets anywhere but it’s more Likely to happen outside of london if anything

 

[....]

This is absolute bollocks

If anyting it’s the opposite- Londoners have a reputation throughout the country for being more reserved, busy and ruder- whole people say northerners are more friendly

I think it’s pretty unlikely you’ll get cold appaorached on the streets anywhere but it’s more Likely to happen outside of london if anything

Central London. I would have to agree. You really have to stand out to be approached in central because you are competing with 6ft 4, blue-eyed, blonde chads.

But like go to the outskirts. Places where you are more likely to get stabbed in, a big difference

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Central London. I would have to agree. You really have to stand out to be approached in central because you are competing with 6ft 4, blue-eyed, blonde chads.

But like go to the outskirts. Places where you are more likely to get stabbed in, a big difference

Those places are full of blacks or obese white single mothers who the fuck wants to go there to run game ?

 

[Enfant terrible]

exposure is easy in college

 

[....]

Those places are full of blacks or obese white single mothers who the fuck wants to go there to run game ?

You've never been London have you?

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

You've never been London have you?

Lived there most of my life .

Try agin

 

[Pakicel]

i feel that i rarely see chads, tbh.
Although i see a SHIT tonne of girls who i think are hot af which is always frustrating.
I saw an unbelievable blonde teen last night who I couldn't stop thinking about lol

and then about 30 or so of these types of girls who might not be much by looksmax standards, but i think they're cute. In fact, i'm pretty sure i actually saw the girl from pic 8 in the pink dress last night

JFL. And you claim to have slayed girls like this and claim to be ugly. These girls are not pretty cute lol. These are top 1% stacies. I'd expect them to not have casual sex with a dude unless he was Maher level in LMS.

 

[Pakicel]

Central London. I would have to agree. You really have to stand out to be approached in central because you are competing with 6ft 4, blue-eyed, blonde chads.

But like go to the outskirts. Places where you are more likely to get stabbed in, a big difference

But I have never seen any guys get approached, even the above avg looking ones. I live in a london suburb btw.

 

[Pakicel]

Those places are full of blacks or obese white single mothers who the fuck wants to go there to run game ?

There are young slim eastern european JBs. But I guess they are chad only though.

 

[Pakicel]

Central London. I would have to agree. You really have to stand out to be approached in central because you are competing with 6ft 4, blue-eyed, blonde chads.

But like go to the outskirts. Places where you are more likely to get stabbed in, a big difference

Yeah. In central london, even a dude like cavill would be invisible.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

JFL. And you claim to have slayed girls like this and claim to be ugly. These girls are not pretty cute lol. These are top 1% stacies. I'd expect them to not have casual sex with a dude unless he was Maher level in LMS.

He’s done a lot of approaches and has an ego willing to withstand rejection

 

[....]

Lived there most of my life .

Try agin

Most areas in London have a rich part and a poor part.

Croydon, for example, is said to be one of the worst areas to live in. However, it houses two of the best private schools in the country. (Trinity and Whitgift). There are parts in Croydon for council flat motherfuckers and for rich motherfuckers.

So it's clown to say everwhere besides Central London is just full of low quality girls

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Most areas in London have a rich part and a poor part.

Croydon, for example, is said to be one of the worst areas to live in. However, it houses two of the best private schools in the country. (Trinity and Whitgift). There are areas in Croydon for council flat motherfuckers and for rich motherfuckers.

So it's clown to say everwhere besides Central London is just full of low quality girls

When did I say that?

You said places you are likely t get stabbed

I replied saying such places are full of blacks and ugly white obese women

Of course if you go to a nice area they’ll be more attractive women

 

[Pakicel]

He’s done a lot of approaches and has an ego willing to withstand rejection

Yes. But it is not just about getting rejected but the sheer amount of effort he'd have to put in. Like approaching 500+ attractive girls to get laid with one. And many of them probably rejected him brutally calling him repulsive to his face, giving disgusted looks. He could have also gotten me'too'd and lost his job or something if a girl was really insulted by him approaching her.

 

[wristcel]

JFL. And you claim to have slayed girls like this and claim to be ugly. These girls are not pretty cute lol. These are top 1% stacies. I'd expect them to not have casual sex with a dude unless he was Maher level in LMS.

Most on the forum said that them girls weren't that hot, tbh.
Although i personally think they're all smoking hot - and i see a tonne of them everytime i leave the house. My town seems to be absolutely full of these girls!

I don't think ive slayed girls quite as hot as them. The last hot girl I banged someone on here said she WAS hotter than that hot girl i keep posting (who is pics 5 and 6) but i don't think so

He's not mahers level (although he's deffo better looking than me) And he was banging her

And this dudes a bit of a rat looking guy?

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Yes. But it is not just about getting rejected but the sheer amount of effort he'd have to put in. Like approaching 500+ attractive girls to get laid with one. And many of them probably rejected him brutally calling him repulsive to his face, giving disgusted looks. He could have also gotten me'too'd and lost his job or something if a girl was really insulted by him approaching her.

I don’t think he’s ugly I think he’s more like a MTN

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Most on the forum said that them girls weren't that hot, tbh.
Although i personally think they're all smoking hot - and i see a tonne of them everytime i leave the house. My town seems to be absolutely full of these girls!

I don't think ive slayed girls quite as hot as them. The last hot girl I banged someone on here said she WAS hotter than that hot girl i keep posting (who is pics 5 and 6) but i don't think so

He's not mahers level (although he's deffo better looking than me) And he was banging her


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And this dudes a bit of a rat looking guy?

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I think JBs like this are higher appeal than like psl god type girls like Lima etc

 

[wristcel]

I think JBs like this are higher appeal than like psl god type girls like Lima etc

the girl i saw last night was just unbelievable.
Just enjoying drinks at 7pm in a smelly wetherspoons with a few other girls and a few normies - one of who was probably fucking her

 

[Pakicel]

I don’t think he’s ugly I think he’s more like a MTN

Have you seen him? From what I have seen/heard of him, he is below average. He is 5'8", overweight, recessed jaw, big nose, acne scars, receding hairline (before his HT), old. I mean. If what he is saying about himself is true, he can't be a MTN lol. But idk. He could just have BDD.

 

[RichmondBread]

Cold approach is brutal especially if lacking in confidence department. Plus you’re basically begging for the pussy and setting your status very low.


Just go about life and when a women gives you signs approach them. Your timing and the situation has to be good too. Also don’t be direct and ask her out straight away or whatever. Make some small talk about something to do with the situation and go from there. Even asking for directions on the street or something is okay.

It doesn't work because the females know you only want them for sex.

 

[Pakicel]

Most on the forum said that them girls weren't that hot, tbh.
Although i personally think they're all smoking hot - and i see a tonne of them everytime i leave the house. My town seems to be absolutely full of these girls!

I don't think ive slayed girls quite as hot as them. The last hot girl I banged someone on here said she WAS hotter than that hot girl i keep posting (who is pics 5 and 6) but i don't think so

He's not mahers level (although he's deffo better looking than me) And he was banging her


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And this dudes a bit of a rat looking guy?

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They are both white normies lol. Maybe, top is like LTN at worst. These are not ugly guys.

Btw screw what users on here think. Some of them even think Lima is ugly. They are coping standardcels.

 

[Pakicel]

the girl i saw last night was just unbelievable.
Just enjoying drinks at 7pm in a smelly wetherspoons with a few other girls and a few normies - one of who was probably fucking her

Do normies chastize you for wanting to bang hot young girls even though you are presumably unattractive yourself?

Btw your description of yourself and your experiences don't add up. I mean are you even sure you are 5'8"? That your jaws are fucked or nose is too big? Are you sure these flaws are not all in your head and you are in fact above average?

 

[wristcel]

Do normies chastize you for wanting to bang hot young girls even though you are presumably unattractive yourself?

Btw your description of yourself and your experiences don't add up. I mean are you even sure you are 5'8"? That your jaws are fucked or nose is too big? Are you sure these flaws are not all in your head and you are in fact above average?

not really. On the rare occasion i banged a girl way out of my league and way way too young for me (like the 17/18 year old i posted in my thread) it was more a mixture of disbelief, praise and some gentle ribbing like 'how in the fuck did YOU get THAT?!' kind of thing lol

My flaws are all real. Like, my nose is a bit too big but it's not ridiculous. My jaws are shit, but the ortho said i was 'bordeline' and as such didn't qualify for free nhs surgery. I am 5'8'' although wear lifts. I am a million years old, although last night the barmen asked me for i.d and said he was certain i was under 25! lmao. (i guess it's a mixture of a weak chin and completely inability to grow facial hair that makes me look a bit younger. Had my test levels checked though and they were decent)

But despite the flaws there's presumably something about my overall face that appeals to 'some' cute girls. I don't know what it is though which is why i made that thread about surgery and whether it was worth the risk and whether i risked losing whatever the thing is that presumably makes me appeal to at least some hot girls

 

[Pakicel]

not really. On the rare occasion i banged a girl way out of my league and way way too young for me (like the 17/18 year old i posted in my thread) it was more a mixture of disbelief, praise and some gentle ribbing like 'how in the fuck did YOU get THAT?!' kind of thing lol

My flaws are all real. Like, my nose is a bit too big but it's not ridiculous. My jaws are shit, but the ortho said i was 'bordeline' and as such didn't qualify for free nhs surgery. I am 5'8'' although wear lifts. I am a million years old, although last night the barmen asked me for i.d and said he was certain i was under 25! lmao. (i guess it's a mixture of a weak chin and completely inability to grow facial hair that makes me look a bit younger. Had my test levels checked though and they were decent)

But despite the flaws there's presumably something about my overall face that appeals to 'some' cute girls. I don't know what it is though which is why i made that thread about surgery and whether it was worth the risk and whether i risked losing whatever the thing is that presumably makes me appeal to at least some hot girls

You probably look mid twenties and maybe you have undermeasured yourself. It's possible you are a 5'10" HTN who frauds to 6 feet. Your real life experiences are def not like that of an ugly guy lol.

Btw do women or even men call you ugly? Not necessarily to your face but behind your back?

 

[wristcel]

You probably look mid twenties and maybe you have undermeasured yourself. It's possible you are a 5'10" HTN who frauds to 6 feet. Your real life experiences are def not like that of an ugly guy lol.

Btw do women or even men call you ugly? Not necessarily to your face but behind your back?

I'm not 5'10''. 5'8'' max.
How would i know if they call me ugly behind my back? I've had the kind of rejections from girls that would imply they think i'm ugly though! thousands of them! haha
But like i say, i'm not saying i'm hideous. I'm just not 'good looking'. I have good looking friends. The shit they experience and how hookups happen is very different to my own in terms of effort, reception and regularity!

in regards to surgery this is the sort of thing i worry about. Like, the guy had the worst jaw you get. But for some reason i can still imagine his 'before' appealing to some girls! He gives off some rapper vibe or some shit. Whereas surgery turned him into mark zukerberg and seemed to kill his 'appeal' That's what i think it going on with me haha. I'd likely ascend with jaw surgery, but there's the risk of taking away whatever it is that has given me at least some success

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

You probably look mid twenties and maybe you have undermeasured yourself. It's possible you are a 5'10" HTN who frauds to 6 feet. Your real life experiences are def not like that of an ugly guy lol.

Btw do women or even men call you ugly? Not necessarily to your face but behind your back?

I think to get openly called ugly irl you have to look really bad - like bottom 1-2%

A regular LTN won’t get called ugly irl

 

[Deleted member 17578]

I think to get openly called ugly irl you have to look really bad - like bottom 1-2%

A regular LTN won’t get called ugly irl

It will in primary school, middle school and high school. Regular bottom 30% LTN is enough to get called ugly regularly. After high school it becomes rare.

 

[Pakicel]

I'm not 5'10''. 5'8'' max.
How would i know if they call me ugly behind my back? I've had the kind of rejections from girls that would imply they think i'm ugly though! thousands of them! haha
But like i say, i'm not saying i'm hideous. I'm just not 'good looking'. I have good looking friends. The shit they experience and how hookups happen is very different to my own in terms of effort, reception and regularity!

in regards to surgery this is the sort of thing i worry about. Like, the guy had the worst jaw you get. But for some reason i can still imagine his 'before' appealing to some girls! He gives off some rapper vibe or some shit. Whereas surgery turned him into mark zukerberg and seemed to kill his 'appeal' That's what i think it going on with me haha. I'd likely ascend with jaw surgery, but there's the risk of taking away whatever it is that has given me at least some success
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Surgery doesn't always make people look better. But there is no way women would prefer him as he was on the left. He looks deformed. Right is still low sex appeal LTN I guess but he is no longer hideous like before.