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It's been a good run guys. I've learned a lot, laughed a lot, and felt welcome in times that I really needed it.

inb4 see you tmrw: yeah I’ll be here tomorrow to say bye

TLDR: OOGABOOGA out this bitch. Much love and God bless all you faggots.

When I joined here I was a redpilled, bluepilled coper, trying to figure out my life. I couldn't put in words why I'd faced certain difficulties in life, but deep down it was clear. For over a year I'd been a full blown oneitiscel for a girl I'd met at Jesus camp, thinking that she'd stay this naive, good girl who would wait til marriage. The next summer, she'd turned into your standard party girl. Not quite a hoe yet, but once she's off to college, she will be. I could tell she didn't meet the image I'd created of her in my mind. She just really isn't that special, and a handful of good experiences with her made me think otherwise.

At camp, I almost hooked up with her one night while we were drunk, and things went downhill from there. She got really awkward around me, and then invited another guy up to camp to join us. The two ended up spending all their time together, and ended up dating for a while. It was a slap in the face, not so much to me, but to what I thought the world was like. She didn't give a damn that I was a good guy, committed to her but not in a simpy way. She wanted the better looking guy.

Fast forward a month or two and I'm mewing, trying to fix my posture, and knocking back supplements, thinking that one day I'd wake up to a different quality of life. All these things to improve my looks, before I even realized just how important looks truly are. One day I saw a reddit post about mewing, with a few pictures of a guy who looked a good bit like me in terms of facial development. In the comments, someone said that he looked like was recessed, and asked if he had sleep apnea or had ever considered jaw surgery. I had finally entered the rabbit hole.

I finally had an explanation for why I had always struggled in school, despite being one of the smartest people in every class I took. I understood why other people seemed so awake and alive, when I could barely get out of bed every day. I knew why people could balance school, hobbies, and an active social life, when almost all of my time was spent in school, in bed, or on the couch. I had avoided the few opportunities girls had given me because I knew my dick didn't work like it was supposed to, and now it made sense why I had such low sex drive and no morning wood despite having ~900 test, deadlifting 500 pounds at 19, and being lean and athletic all my life. And most importantly, I understood why I never looked as good as my friends. Fuck you jaw recession, and fuck you sleep apnea.

First I lurked on Lookism, and then ended up making an account on *. The first thread I ever made I posted a pic of myself and asked if I should get jaw surgery. My nigga @D@Dante1 told to "lose weight you fat fuck." I had and still have a 6 pack so he was wrong, but Dante you're a bro, I'll find you on Discord. Within a week the site went down, so I came here.

I dreaded that it was over when @
Deleted member 2486
@cocainecowboy blew up threads where he shat on surgery. I dreamt I would ascend do chaddom by making @
CopeAndRope
@CopeAndRope's facepuller. I laughed my ass off when @
Petsmart
@Petsmart and @D@6ft5manletripped into any and anyone. I laughed even harder when @
Short Ugly and Brown
@Short Ugly and Brown's oneitis got doxxed after he tried to pay her $1000 for a kiss.
Spoiler

I learned a lot of bullshit and a lot of truth, made some friends, and felt like I had somewhere to be when nothing seemed to matter. I had fun, but that winter hit me hard.

At the time I was in a shitty little studio apartment in the city for school. I was surrounded by people but I was so damn alone. I had temptations to jump on the tracks every time I caught a train, but I knew as soon as I got on the train one of you fuckers would give me something to laugh about. When I started cutting myself and posting pics of my dripping blood on here, a forum that seemed so toxic turned out to be full of people who wanted the best for each other. I know there were plenty of people who reached out to me and helped me through those days, but my dude @
Fuk
@Fuk stands out most clearly. No offense to anyone else who cared about me then, but his height and looks halo made me value him higher. Anyways, it felt like I had a good friend I could talk to and joke with, so thanks dude. And thanks all of you.

I thank God of course, but there's this joke about God that goes something like this. A hurricane hits a city, and as everyone tries to escape, one man of faith decides to stay because he believes God will protect him. Before the streets flood, his friends pull up to his house and offer him a ride out of the city. He says "God will save me" and prays. The streets begin to flood, and a rescue team drives by in a boat. They tell him to swim to them so they can take him to safety. He says "God will save me" and prays. Hours later, he is waiting on his roof, with the water dangerously close to submerging his entire house. A helicopter flies by and offers him a ride to safety but he tells them "God will save me." A few hours later he has drowned and gone to heaven and he asks "God, why didn't you save me? I was praying for your help." And God tells him "I tried to save you. I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter!"

The point is, God works in mysterious ways. I don't know if I would've killed myself if not for you guys, but I know I thought about it every single day for months. So thank you God for using this shit hole of a forum to save me from my despair.

Anyway, a couple months of jew pills later and one day I stopped thinking of suicide completely. I stopped the drugs soon after and still haven't been suicidal since. Around that time, you retards were shitting your pants over the kung flu, insisting you were all gonna die and pinning threads about hand sanitizer. I left for a few months and came back in the spring, a happier, smarter man, finally officially diagnosed with sleep apnea and on my way to a better life. These last few months have been a great time honestly. I've made so many friends here and I'd say I built up a decent bit of status here. No matter what happens irl, I know that all I need to get some laughs and dopamine is an internet connection.

The thing is, nothing can last forever. I can't keep ldaring in my parents basement, I need to take steps forward in my life. At this point I'm waking up to 10-20 reacts, spending the first hour my day here, then checking back on an hourly basis to rot throughout the day. I just got offered a huge offer to be mentored by and work for my app developer friend who makes a grand or two daily, and drives a 2020 bmw m4 at 19 years old. It's crunch time tbh. If I can sleep right and grind, I could be making six figures within a year as far as I know. He knows the game, and believes in me, even if I have my doubts.

I also just reconnected with my best friend from school. Last I checked he was a stoner and permarotter, and now all of a sudden he's in crazy shape, cutting out games, drugs, porn(sorta), and really getting on the right track. https://looksmax.org/threads/my-old-chad-best-friend.160060/ He's really inspiring me to get my shit together, and I have to start with this place bc it takes more time than anything else and fries my dopa receptors. It's a guilty pleasure I can't keep justifying to myself.

I wish you all the best. I hope you find God if you haven't yet, ascend to the best of your ability, and have kids you can give a better shot at life than we had. If you're interested here's my current status lookswise and my plans to ascend:

-6ft tall -> Good enough, fuck LL, maybe I'd use lifts if I ever became a club rat but I don't see that happening.
-muh dick -> Libido is fucked from sleep apnea, but hopefully this will improve as I continue treating it. I might see a urologist to make sure there aren't other issues
-White, western european mix, pale but able to tan a bit -> MT2 and good nutrition so I can get a tan, helps me a lot
-Medium-light brown hair -> could be worse, I'll experiment with dying darker
-thick brown eyebrows -> might dye them too unless it looks retarded, we'll see
-Hair is thick but I have balding genes on both sides, currently nw 1.5 or so -> I'll try dermarolling, and once my dick starts working better, I'll give fin another try. I took it for a month and it completely halted shedding, but my libido was already too weak to handle it psychologically. Side effects and shedding returned after 1 week off, so hopefully I'm not at risk for PFS. I also expect that I'll get a hair transplant back to nw0. Should be cheap to get a few thousand follicles overseas
-patellar tendinitis -> comes and goes but keeps me from training legs or cardio. Been unable to stick to a PT schedule bc I'm tired af and lazy. So just pt eventually
-body fat ~18% -> I have a slight 6 pack but still have an inch+ of pubic fat pad bc of weird fat distribution and good ab inserts. Eat less train more duh.
-Decent frame and muscle -> Keep training natty for a while until other health issues are sorted out, might consider sarms and/or test down the line but I don't aspire to be some instagram/tinder/nightclub slayer pulling whores. Currently got about 21 inch bidelt and I've definitely got room to grow natty
-15-16 inch neck -> I'll try to squeeze out a couple more inches once my sleep is no longer an issue
-Beard is thick but too light for stubble -> apparently mt2 can darken facial hair like crazy so fingers crossed. If not, no big deal.
-7x5.5 dick -> Not bad on paper, but stupidly big fat pad like I said. Already have bathmate so if that gives me girth, great. If not, well it still gives the temporary girth pump which gets me to about 6 inches. For length I'll just do basic manual stretching with ads to get over 8 bp and over 7 nbp
-teeth could be whiter -> so I'll whiten them
-acne -> Mostly gone 5 months into accutane, no sides other than a bit of dryness btw. My scars aren't too bad but I'll look into laser treatment, chemical peels, derminator, and maybe retin-a in the winter
-decent collagen I suppose -> fuck sunscreen, so I hope that MT2 and diet prevent sun from causing damage to collagen. I will try to stay pretty natural, with things like derminator, aloe vera, a clean diet, and a healthy+sober lifestyle
-Blue eye halo -> keep coping ethnics
-White is right -> see above ^
-Circumcel -> Restore foreskin after reaching PE goals, or maybe before who knows.
-Big skull, warrioresque occiput -> you mirin?
NOW FOR THE HARDMAXXING
-Wide, strong mandible(12-13 cm), but recessed with weak chin -> hopefully I can get trimax covered bc of sleep apnea. Hoping for ccw, high cut lf1+bsso+genio.
-short ramus(~3 cm) but not a huge deal bc of wide bigonial -> might get lengthened a bit with my jaw surgery, tbd
-Recessed maxilla -> Depending on how I look after first lefort I might consider going for another if the first is covered by surgery. If so I'd save up for a higher, quadrangular cut, as close to lf2 as possible, overseas. I'm not expecting to get much room to prioritize aesthetics if it's being covered for medical reasons. I know it's ridiculous to get jaw surgery twice, but I'm pretty pan faced tbh
-Top percentile zygo width but a bit recessed -> I think zygo implants look better if used for forward projection, whereas the fake and gay look comes more from adding width to the arch. Eppley full midface implants to match forward growth of lefort(s).
-Recessed midface -> see above ^
-Recessed and low orbital rims giving shit ues and prey eye look if not squinting -> see above ^^
-decently wide palate already and perfect occlusion -> all good there
-neutral or slightly negative canthal tilt -> maaaaybe cantho but I'll decide after rims and everything else. Occulo surgery seems to turn out uncanny, and the main problem there for me is the bones.
-Low, pretty strong brow but no visible browridge -> whatever, minimal difference, not worth changing
-Mediocre upper eye/hooding -> looks good if I squint but otherwise weak, upper eyelid fat injections or whatever people do seem to work well
-Nose is fine, hopefully leforts don't fuck it up
-Ears are fine, no need for otoplasty
-Wrist implants brah :feelsez:

I know that's a lot, but if I had the money(40k tops unless I want two leforts or insurance won't cover the first) it could be all done within two years. People here generally rate me between 4.5-5 psl, but take away good lighting and a squint and that rating drops a bit so lets say low 4s, or 4.5 on a good day. Mid to low tier normie sounds about right. With my bigonial width and mandible size, a chin and some more forward growth would give a pretty damn good jaw. Failo to halo honestly, and a second bimax would be icing on the cake. Advancing my whole midface will make an already pretty nice smile a lot nicer. Undereye support will let me reap the benefits of color halo and my good eyebrows. Advancing my zygos and everything will give me guaranteed hollow cheeks. Improving my skin, getting back to nw0, and contrast maxxing will certainly help too. All said and done I think I'll end up around 5.5 psl. Add in height, physique, and dick halo and I'd be high tier normie, bordering on chadlite. Like Chris Evans with worse eyes and a better jaw, i hope.

After ascending I hope to Trad max with Russian bride maxxing and possibly polygamy as described in these threads:
https://looksmax.org/threads/high-iq-why-polygamy-and-underage-marriage-are-ideal.131830/
looksmax.org

Russian bride theory | Looksmax.org - Men's Self-Improvement & Aesthetics

I ain’t typing shit but here’s a decent channel on Traditional patriarchal “betabuxx” game aka what marriage has always been. he’s a 5’7 white oldcell mid-low normie with lifefuel theories on getting a young, trad wife in ex soviet areas. Here’s a good vid on it @Gargantuan @JackSparrow...
looksmax.org
looksmax.org

Alright! Long ass read so if you stuck around for it all then props to you. If not then thanks for bumping me thread with a dnr you fuckin homo. I finally made a Discord, so if you're a bro, find me at Oogastein_Boogaberg#0031. I'll probably stay away from the big groups so it isn't much of a time suck, but I still want to be able to keep in touch with you guys.

Here comes the mass tag of bros to rep me. Thanks for the good advice and great times. I really love this community and I'm gonna miss it. God bless you all, I hope this site makes your life better like it has for me. Be fruitful and multiply, don't be fruity and blow a guy. OOGABOOGA out.

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It's been a good run guys. I've learned a lot, laughed a lot, and felt welcome in times that I really needed it.

inb4 see you tmrw: yeah I’ll be here tomorrow to say bye

TLDR: OOGABOOGA out this bitch. Much love and God bless all you faggots.

When I joined here I was a redpilled, bluepilled coper, trying to figure out my life. I couldn't put in words why I'd faced certain difficulties in life, but deep down it was clear. For over a year I'd been a full blown oneitiscel for a girl I'd met at Jesus camp, thinking that she'd stay this naive, good girl who would wait til marriage. The next summer, she'd turned into your standard party girl. Not quite a hoe yet, but once she's off to college, she will be. I could tell she didn't meet the image I'd created of her in my mind. She just really isn't that special, and a handful of good experiences with her made me think otherwise.

At camp, I almost hooked up with her one night while we were drunk, and things went downhill from there. She got really awkward around me, and then invited another guy up to camp to join us. The two ended up spending all their time together, and ended up dating for a while. It was a slap in the face, not so much to me, but to what I thought the world was like. She didn't give a damn that I was a good guy, committed to her but not in a simpy way. She wanted the better looking guy.

Fast forward a month or two and I'm mewing, trying to fix my posture, and knocking back supplements, thinking that one day I'd wake up to a different quality of life. All these things to improve my looks, before I even realized just how important looks truly are. One day I saw a reddit post about mewing, with a few pictures of a guy who looked a good bit like me in terms of facial development. In the comments, someone said that he looked like was recessed, and asked if he had sleep apnea or had ever considered jaw surgery. I had finally entered the rabbit hole.

I finally had an explanation for why I had always struggled in school, despite being one of the smartest people in every class I took. I understood why other people seemed so awake and alive, when I could barely get out of bed every day. I knew why people could balance school, hobbies, and an active social life, when almost all of my time was spent in school, in bed, or on the couch. I had avoided the few opportunities girls had given me because I knew my dick didn't work like it was supposed to, and now it made sense why I had such low sex drive and no morning wood despite having ~900 test, deadlifting 500 pounds at 19, and being lean and athletic all my life. And most importantly, I understood why I never looked as good as my friends. Fuck you jaw recession, and fuck you sleep apnea.

First I lurked on Lookism, and then ended up making an account on *. The first thread I ever made I posted a pic of myself and asked if I should get jaw surgery. My nigga @D@Dante1 told to "lose weight you fat fuck." I had and still have a 6 pack so he was wrong, but Dante you're a bro, I'll find you on Discord. Within a week the site went down, so I came here.

I dreaded that it was over when @
Deleted member 2486
@cocainecowboy blew up threads where he shat on surgery. I dreamt I would ascend do chaddom by making @
CopeAndRope
@CopeAndRope's facepuller. I laughed my ass off when @
Petsmart
@Petsmart and @D@6ft5manletripped into any and anyone. I laughed even harder when @
Short Ugly and Brown
@Short Ugly and Brown's oneitis got doxxed after he tried to pay her $1000 for a kiss.
Spoiler

I learned a lot of bullshit and a lot of truth, made some friends, and felt like I had somewhere to be when nothing seemed to matter. I had fun, but that winter hit me hard.

At the time I was in a shitty little studio apartment in the city for school. I was surrounded by people but I was so damn alone. I had temptations to jump on the tracks every time I caught a train, but I knew as soon as I got on the train one of you fuckers would give me something to laugh about. When I started cutting myself and posting pics of my dripping blood on here, a forum that seemed so toxic turned out to be full of people who wanted the best for each other. I know there were plenty of people who reached out to me and helped me through those days, but my dude @
Fuk
@Fuk stands out most clearly. No offense to anyone else who cared about me then, but his height and looks halo made me value him higher. Anyways, it felt like I had a good friend I could talk to and joke with, so thanks dude. And thanks all of you.

I thank God of course, but there's this joke about God that goes something like this. A hurricane hits a city, and as everyone tries to escape, one man of faith decides to stay because he believes God will protect him. Before the streets flood, his friends pull up to his house and offer him a ride out of the city. He says "God will save me" and prays. The streets begin to flood, and a rescue team drives by in a boat. They tell him to swim to them so they can take him to safety. He says "God will save me" and prays. Hours later, he is waiting on his roof, with the water dangerously close to submerging his entire house. A helicopter flies by and offers him a ride to safety but he tells them "God will save me." A few hours later he has drowned and gone to heaven and he asks "God, why didn't you save me? I was praying for your help." And God tells him "I tried to save you. I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter!"

The point is, God works in mysterious ways. I don't know if I would've killed myself if not for you guys, but I know I thought about it every single day for months. So thank you God for using this shit hole of a forum to save me from my despair.

Anyway, a couple months of jew pills later and one day I stopped thinking of suicide completely. I stopped the drugs soon after and still haven't been suicidal since. Around that time, you retards were shitting your pants over the kung flu, insisting you were all gonna die and pinning threads about hand sanitizer. I left for a few months and came back in the spring, a happier, smarter man, finally officially diagnosed with sleep apnea and on my way to a better life. These last few months have been a great time honestly. I've made so many friends here and I'd say I built up a decent bit of status here. No matter what happens irl, I know that all I need to get some laughs and dopamine is an internet connection.

The thing is, nothing can last forever. I can't keep ldaring in my parents basement, I need to take steps forward in my life. At this point I'm waking up to 10-20 reacts, spending the first hour my day here, then checking back on an hourly basis to rot throughout the day. I just got offered a huge offer to be mentored by and work for my app developer friend who makes a grand or two daily, and drives a 2020 bmw m4 at 19 years old. It's crunch time tbh. If I can sleep right and grind, I could be making six figures within a year as far as I know. He knows the game, and believes in me, even if I have my doubts.

I also just reconnected with my best friend from school. Last I checked he was a stoner and permarotter, and now all of a sudden he's in crazy shape, cutting out games, drugs, porn(sorta), and really getting on the right track. https://looksmax.org/threads/my-old-chad-best-friend.160060/ He's really inspiring me to get my shit together, and I have to start with this place bc it takes more time than anything else and fries my dopa receptors. It's a guilty pleasure I can't keep justifying to myself.

I wish you all the best. I hope you find God if you haven't yet, ascend to the best of your ability, and have kids you can give a better shot at life than we had. If you're interested here's my current status lookswise and my plans to ascend:

-6ft tall -> Good enough, fuck LL, maybe I'd use lifts if I ever became a club rat but I don't see that happening.
-muh dick -> Libido is fucked from sleep apnea, but hopefully this will improve as I continue treating it. I might see a urologist to make sure there aren't other issues
-White, western european mix, pale but able to tan a bit -> MT2 and good nutrition so I can get a tan, helps me a lot
-Medium-light brown hair -> could be worse, I'll experiment with dying darker
-thick brown eyebrows -> might dye them too unless it looks retarded, we'll see
-Hair is thick but I have balding genes on both sides, currently nw 1.5 or so -> I'll try dermarolling, and once my dick starts working better, I'll give fin another try. I took it for a month and it completely halted shedding, but my libido was already too weak to handle it psychologically. Side effects and shedding returned after 1 week off, so hopefully I'm not at risk for PFS. I also expect that I'll get a hair transplant back to nw0. Should be cheap to get a few thousand follicles overseas
-patellar tendinitis -> comes and goes but keeps me from training legs or cardio. Been unable to stick to a PT schedule bc I'm tired af and lazy. So just pt eventually
-body fat ~18% -> I have a slight 6 pack but still have an inch+ of pubic fat pad bc of weird fat distribution and good ab inserts. Eat less train more duh.
-Decent frame and muscle -> Keep training natty for a while until other health issues are sorted out, might consider sarms and/or test down the line but I don't aspire to be some instagram/tinder/nightclub slayer pulling whores. Currently got about 21 inch bidelt and I've definitely got room to grow natty
-15-16 inch neck -> I'll try to squeeze out a couple more inches once my sleep is no longer an issue
-Beard is thick but too light for stubble -> apparently mt2 can darken facial hair like crazy so fingers crossed. If not, no big deal.
-7x5.5 dick -> Not bad on paper, but stupidly big fat pad like I said. Already have bathmate so if that gives me girth, great. If not, well it still gives the temporary girth pump which gets me to about 6 inches. For length I'll just do basic manual stretching with ads to get over 8 bp and over 7 nbp
-teeth could be whiter -> so I'll whiten them
-acne -> Mostly gone 5 months into accutane, no sides other than a bit of dryness btw. My scars aren't too bad but I'll look into laser treatment, chemical peels, derminator, and maybe retin-a in the winter
-decent collagen I suppose -> fuck sunscreen, so I hope that MT2 and diet prevent sun from causing damage to collagen. I will try to stay pretty natural, with things like derminator, aloe vera, a clean diet, and a healthy+sober lifestyle
-Blue eye halo -> keep coping ethnics
-White is right -> see above ^
-Circumcel -> Restore foreskin after reaching PE goals, or maybe before who knows.
-Big skull, warrioresque occiput -> you mirin?
NOW FOR THE HARDMAXXING
-Wide, strong mandible(12-13 cm), but recessed with weak chin -> hopefully I can get trimax covered bc of sleep apnea. Hoping for ccw, high cut lf1+bsso+genio.
-short ramus(~3 cm) but not a huge deal bc of wide bigonial -> might get lengthened a bit with my jaw surgery, tbd
-Recessed maxilla -> Depending on how I look after first lefort I might consider going for another if the first is covered by surgery. If so I'd save up for a higher, quadrangular cut, as close to lf2 as possible, overseas. I'm not expecting to get much room to prioritize aesthetics if it's being covered for medical reasons. I know it's ridiculous to get jaw surgery twice, but I'm pretty pan faced tbh
-Top percentile zygo width but a bit recessed -> I think zygo implants look better if used for forward projection, whereas the fake and gay look comes more from adding width to the arch. Eppley full midface implants to match forward growth of lefort(s).
-Recessed midface -> see above ^
-Recessed and low orbital rims giving shit ues and prey eye look if not squinting -> see above ^^
-decently wide palate already and perfect occlusion -> all good there
-neutral or slightly negative canthal tilt -> maaaaybe cantho but I'll decide after rims and everything else. Occulo surgery seems to turn out uncanny, and the main problem there for me is the bones.
-Low, pretty strong brow but no visible browridge -> whatever, minimal difference, not worth changing
-Mediocre upper eye/hooding -> looks good if I squint but otherwise weak, upper eyelid fat injections or whatever people do seem to work well
-Nose is fine, hopefully leforts don't fuck it up
-Ears are fine, no need for otoplasty
-Wrist implants brah :feelsez:

I know that's a lot, but if I had the money(40k tops unless I want two leforts or insurance won't cover the first) it could be all done within two years. People here generally rate me between 4.5-5 psl, but take away good lighting and a squint and that rating drops a bit so lets say low 4s, or 4.5 on a good day. Mid to low tier normie sounds about right. With my bigonial width and mandible size, a chin and some more forward growth would give a pretty damn good jaw. Failo to halo honestly, and a second bimax would be icing on the cake. Advancing my whole midface will make an already pretty nice smile a lot nicer. Undereye support will let me reap the benefits of color halo and my good eyebrows. Advancing my zygos and everything will give me guaranteed hollow cheeks. Improving my skin, getting back to nw0, and contrast maxxing will certainly help too. All said and done I think I'll end up around 5.5 psl. Add in height, physique, and dick halo and I'd be high tier normie, bordering on chadlite. Like Chris Evans with worse eyes and a better jaw, i hope.

After ascending I hope to Trad max with Russian bride maxxing and possibly polygamy as described in these threads:
https://looksmax.org/threads/high-iq-why-polygamy-and-underage-marriage-are-ideal.131830/
looksmax.org

Russian bride theory | Looksmax.org - Men's Self-Improvement & Aesthetics

I ain’t typing shit but here’s a decent channel on Traditional patriarchal “betabuxx” game aka what marriage has always been. he’s a 5’7 white oldcell mid-low normie with lifefuel theories on getting a young, trad wife in ex soviet areas. Here’s a good vid on it @Gargantuan @JackSparrow...
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Alright! Long ass read so if you stuck around for it all then props to you. If not then thanks for bumping me thread with a dnr you fuckin homo. I finally made a Discord, so if you're a bro, find me at Oogastein_Boogaberg#0031. I'll probably stay away from the big groups so it isn't much of a time suck, but I still want to be able to keep in touch with you guys.

Here comes the mass tag of bros to rep me. Thanks for the good advice and great times. I really love this community and I'm gonna miss it. God bless you all, I hope this site makes your life better like it has for me. Be fruitful and multiply, don't be fruity and blow a guy. OOGABOOGA out.

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It's amazing how sleep apnea red pills you. It can make you MGTOW because sex sucks anyways. I know because I have this same issue with sex drive.
 
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Why no sex drive
Because I have sleep apnea. Sleep apnea decreases blood flow to the penis.
Use it or lose it theory applies to erection quality. In good health a normal guy gets a 15 minute boner at the end of every sleep cycle and wakes up with morning wood. I never had this my entire adolescence. Had random morning wood like once a year til this year I’m starting to improve and get it more often
 
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Use it or lose it theory applies to erection quality. In good health a normal guy gets a 15 minute boner at the end of every sleep cycle and wakes up with morning wood. I never had this my entire adolescence. Had random morning wood like once a year til this year I’m starting to improve and get it more often
I've noticed if you cut out caffeine it makes your sex drive better. But not by much if you already have sleep apnea.
 
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I've noticed if you cut out caffeine it makes your sex drive better. But not by much if you already have sleep apnea.
Not for me. Never had a habit of using caffeine. My first two lays I couldn’t keep a proper hard on just like 80%. So for the following 10 I’ve used pills. Refractory period is still shit and I last longer than I’d like to bc I have a chemically induced hard on instead of being super horny but at least I can fuck now. Hoping that good health enables me to nut quicker and more often so I could have nights where I go round after round, like 10-15 minutes each time instead of lasting until the girl taps out and jacking off on her face after. Might have to do foreskin restoration once I’m done with pe
 
Not for me. Never had a habit of using caffeine. My first two lays I couldn’t keep a proper hard on just like 80%. So for the following 10 I’ve used pills. Refractory period is still shit and I last longer than I’d like to bc I have a chemically induced hard on instead of being super horny but at least I can fuck now. Hoping that good health enables me to nut quicker and more often so I could have nights where I go round after round, like 10-15 minutes each time instead of lasting until the girl taps out and jacking off on her face after. Might have to do foreskin restoration once I’m done with pe
So you have sleep apnea too? If so, do you have tips? How can I make this shit better?
 
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So you have sleep apnea too? If so, do you have tips? How can I make this shit better?
First of all I’m writing too damn much for no rep so gimme likes. But anyway cpap and oral devices didn’t work for me. Had septoplasty and tonsillectomy and palate surgery. Airway is more open now. But since I had it from ages ~13-21 I have tons of ptsd and cns issues so I’ve been doing sleep therapy to fix that and relearn how to sleep. Slowly dreaming more often, getting morning wood more often, waking up early more often. But my case was pretty abnormal. Get a sleep study and go to a doctor.
 
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First of all I’m writing too damn much for no rep so gimme likes. But anyway cpap and oral devices didn’t work for me. Had septoplasty and tonsillectomy and palate surgery. Airway is more open now. But since I had it from ages ~13-21 I have tons of ptsd and cns issues so I’ve been doing sleep therapy to fix that and relearn how to sleep. Slowly dreaming more often, getting morning wood more often, waking up early more often. But my case was pretty abnormal. Get a sleep study and go to a doctor.
I did a sleep study and got mild sleep apnea as my diagnosis. I'm currently treating with allergy shots to clear up the inflammation in my nose. Because mine is co morbid with nasal congestion. I have managed it by mouth taping, again - allergy treatment, sleeping on my side, and limiting my caffeine intake to no more than 30 mg per day. These things have helped - and I can now hit 7 hours of sleep a night constantly. However I am having issues trying to get rid of the headaches and afternoon crashes. But I will look into surgery because you said its a good idea. I am planning on rhino, bimaxx, sinus plasty, or buccal fat removal in 2022. Just can't decide which one is best.
 
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First of all I’m writing too damn much for no rep so gimme likes. But anyway cpap and oral devices didn’t work for me. Had septoplasty and tonsillectomy and palate surgery. Airway is more open now. But since I had it from ages ~13-21 I have tons of ptsd and cns issues so I’ve been doing sleep therapy to fix that and relearn how to sleep. Slowly dreaming more often, getting morning wood more often, waking up early more often. But my case was pretty abnormal. Get a sleep study and go to a doctor.
I would try mouth taping. Just make sure your nose is clear when doing it. Do a week long duration and write down what happens. Once I started doing that, I could get full nights of sleep - 7-8 hours. With REM sleep and dreaming again. This happened after an entire year of not dreaming at all.
 
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I would try mouth taping. Just make sure your nose is clear when doing it. Do a week long duration and write down what happens. Once I started doing that, I could get full nights of sleep - 7-8 hours. With REM sleep and dreaming again. This happened after an entire year of not dreaming at all.
I never snored. My diagnosis was mild but symptoms were severe. Since I got it so young I adapted to just get shitty light sleep and not get rem bc that’s where I’d be at risk of apnea danger. So normal nights for me over the last 5-10 years is 10+ hours of uninterrupted sleep with no dreams, no boners, waking up feeling shitty and unrested, then facing fatigue and brain fog all day and getting sleepy when I tried to work on shit
 
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I never snored. My diagnosis was mild but symptoms were severe. Since I got it so young I adapted to just get shitty light sleep and not get rem bc that’s where I’d be at risk of apnea danger. So normal nights for me over the last 5-10 years is 10+ hours of uninterrupted sleep with no dreams, no boners, waking up feeling shitty and unrested, then facing fatigue and brain fog all day and getting sleepy when I tried to work on shit
Yeah. That sounds like literal suicide to be honest.
 
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I promise you I don't give a shit. Good riddance you puerto rican faggot.
 
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It's been a good run guys. I've learned a lot, laughed a lot, and felt welcome in times that I really needed it.

inb4 see you tmrw: yeah I’ll be here tomorrow to say bye

TLDR: OOGABOOGA out this bitch. Much love and God bless all you faggots.

When I joined here I was a redpilled, bluepilled coper, trying to figure out my life. I couldn't put in words why I'd faced certain difficulties in life, but deep down it was clear. For over a year I'd been a full blown oneitiscel for a girl I'd met at Jesus camp, thinking that she'd stay this naive, good girl who would wait til marriage. The next summer, she'd turned into your standard party girl. Not quite a hoe yet, but once she's off to college, she will be. I could tell she didn't meet the image I'd created of her in my mind. She just really isn't that special, and a handful of good experiences with her made me think otherwise.

At camp, I almost hooked up with her one night while we were drunk, and things went downhill from there. She got really awkward around me, and then invited another guy up to camp to join us. The two ended up spending all their time together, and ended up dating for a while. It was a slap in the face, not so much to me, but to what I thought the world was like. She didn't give a damn that I was a good guy, committed to her but not in a simpy way. She wanted the better looking guy.

Fast forward a month or two and I'm mewing, trying to fix my posture, and knocking back supplements, thinking that one day I'd wake up to a different quality of life. All these things to improve my looks, before I even realized just how important looks truly are. One day I saw a reddit post about mewing, with a few pictures of a guy who looked a good bit like me in terms of facial development. In the comments, someone said that he looked like was recessed, and asked if he had sleep apnea or had ever considered jaw surgery. I had finally entered the rabbit hole.

I finally had an explanation for why I had always struggled in school, despite being one of the smartest people in every class I took. I understood why other people seemed so awake and alive, when I could barely get out of bed every day. I knew why people could balance school, hobbies, and an active social life, when almost all of my time was spent in school, in bed, or on the couch. I had avoided the few opportunities girls had given me because I knew my dick didn't work like it was supposed to, and now it made sense why I had such low sex drive and no morning wood despite having ~900 test, deadlifting 500 pounds at 19, and being lean and athletic all my life. And most importantly, I understood why I never looked as good as my friends. Fuck you jaw recession, and fuck you sleep apnea.

First I lurked on Lookism, and then ended up making an account on *. The first thread I ever made I posted a pic of myself and asked if I should get jaw surgery. My nigga @D@Dante1 told to "lose weight you fat fuck." I had and still have a 6 pack so he was wrong, but Dante you're a bro, I'll find you on Discord. Within a week the site went down, so I came here.

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I learned a lot of bullshit and a lot of truth, made some friends, and felt like I had somewhere to be when nothing seemed to matter. I had fun, but that winter hit me hard.

At the time I was in a shitty little studio apartment in the city for school. I was surrounded by people but I was so damn alone. I had temptations to jump on the tracks every time I caught a train, but I knew as soon as I got on the train one of you fuckers would give me something to laugh about. When I started cutting myself and posting pics of my dripping blood on here, a forum that seemed so toxic turned out to be full of people who wanted the best for each other. I know there were plenty of people who reached out to me and helped me through those days, but my dude @
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I thank God of course, but there's this joke about God that goes something like this. A hurricane hits a city, and as everyone tries to escape, one man of faith decides to stay because he believes God will protect him. Before the streets flood, his friends pull up to his house and offer him a ride out of the city. He says "God will save me" and prays. The streets begin to flood, and a rescue team drives by in a boat. They tell him to swim to them so they can take him to safety. He says "God will save me" and prays. Hours later, he is waiting on his roof, with the water dangerously close to submerging his entire house. A helicopter flies by and offers him a ride to safety but he tells them "God will save me." A few hours later he has drowned and gone to heaven and he asks "God, why didn't you save me? I was praying for your help." And God tells him "I tried to save you. I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter!"

The point is, God works in mysterious ways. I don't know if I would've killed myself if not for you guys, but I know I thought about it every single day for months. So thank you God for using this shit hole of a forum to save me from my despair.

Anyway, a couple months of jew pills later and one day I stopped thinking of suicide completely. I stopped the drugs soon after and still haven't been suicidal since. Around that time, you retards were shitting your pants over the kung flu, insisting you were all gonna die and pinning threads about hand sanitizer. I left for a few months and came back in the spring, a happier, smarter man, finally officially diagnosed with sleep apnea and on my way to a better life. These last few months have been a great time honestly. I've made so many friends here and I'd say I built up a decent bit of status here. No matter what happens irl, I know that all I need to get some laughs and dopamine is an internet connection.

The thing is, nothing can last forever. I can't keep ldaring in my parents basement, I need to take steps forward in my life. At this point I'm waking up to 10-20 reacts, spending the first hour my day here, then checking back on an hourly basis to rot throughout the day. I just got offered a huge offer to be mentored by and work for my app developer friend who makes a grand or two daily, and drives a 2020 bmw m4 at 19 years old. It's crunch time tbh. If I can sleep right and grind, I could be making six figures within a year as far as I know. He knows the game, and believes in me, even if I have my doubts.

I also just reconnected with my best friend from school. Last I checked he was a stoner and permarotter, and now all of a sudden he's in crazy shape, cutting out games, drugs, porn(sorta), and really getting on the right track. https://looksmax.org/threads/my-old-chad-best-friend.160060/ He's really inspiring me to get my shit together, and I have to start with this place bc it takes more time than anything else and fries my dopa receptors. It's a guilty pleasure I can't keep justifying to myself.

I wish you all the best. I hope you find God if you haven't yet, ascend to the best of your ability, and have kids you can give a better shot at life than we had. If you're interested here's my current status lookswise and my plans to ascend:

-6ft tall -> Good enough, fuck LL, maybe I'd use lifts if I ever became a club rat but I don't see that happening.
-muh dick -> Libido is fucked from sleep apnea, but hopefully this will improve as I continue treating it. I might see a urologist to make sure there aren't other issues
-White, western european mix, pale but able to tan a bit -> MT2 and good nutrition so I can get a tan, helps me a lot
-Medium-light brown hair -> could be worse, I'll experiment with dying darker
-thick brown eyebrows -> might dye them too unless it looks retarded, we'll see
-Hair is thick but I have balding genes on both sides, currently nw 1.5 or so -> I'll try dermarolling, and once my dick starts working better, I'll give fin another try. I took it for a month and it completely halted shedding, but my libido was already too weak to handle it psychologically. Side effects and shedding returned after 1 week off, so hopefully I'm not at risk for PFS. I also expect that I'll get a hair transplant back to nw0. Should be cheap to get a few thousand follicles overseas
-patellar tendinitis -> comes and goes but keeps me from training legs or cardio. Been unable to stick to a PT schedule bc I'm tired af and lazy. So just pt eventually
-body fat ~18% -> I have a slight 6 pack but still have an inch+ of pubic fat pad bc of weird fat distribution and good ab inserts. Eat less train more duh.
-Decent frame and muscle -> Keep training natty for a while until other health issues are sorted out, might consider sarms and/or test down the line but I don't aspire to be some instagram/tinder/nightclub slayer pulling whores. Currently got about 21 inch bidelt and I've definitely got room to grow natty
-15-16 inch neck -> I'll try to squeeze out a couple more inches once my sleep is no longer an issue
-Beard is thick but too light for stubble -> apparently mt2 can darken facial hair like crazy so fingers crossed. If not, no big deal.
-7x5.5 dick -> Not bad on paper, but stupidly big fat pad like I said. Already have bathmate so if that gives me girth, great. If not, well it still gives the temporary girth pump which gets me to about 6 inches. For length I'll just do basic manual stretching with ads to get over 8 bp and over 7 nbp
-teeth could be whiter -> so I'll whiten them
-acne -> Mostly gone 5 months into accutane, no sides other than a bit of dryness btw. My scars aren't too bad but I'll look into laser treatment, chemical peels, derminator, and maybe retin-a in the winter
-decent collagen I suppose -> fuck sunscreen, so I hope that MT2 and diet prevent sun from causing damage to collagen. I will try to stay pretty natural, with things like derminator, aloe vera, a clean diet, and a healthy+sober lifestyle
-Blue eye halo -> keep coping ethnics
-White is right -> see above ^
-Circumcel -> Restore foreskin after reaching PE goals, or maybe before who knows.
-Big skull, warrioresque occiput -> you mirin?
NOW FOR THE HARDMAXXING
-Wide, strong mandible(12-13 cm), but recessed with weak chin -> hopefully I can get trimax covered bc of sleep apnea. Hoping for ccw, high cut lf1+bsso+genio.
-short ramus(~3 cm) but not a huge deal bc of wide bigonial -> might get lengthened a bit with my jaw surgery, tbd
-Recessed maxilla -> Depending on how I look after first lefort I might consider going for another if the first is covered by surgery. If so I'd save up for a higher, quadrangular cut, as close to lf2 as possible, overseas. I'm not expecting to get much room to prioritize aesthetics if it's being covered for medical reasons. I know it's ridiculous to get jaw surgery twice, but I'm pretty pan faced tbh
-Top percentile zygo width but a bit recessed -> I think zygo implants look better if used for forward projection, whereas the fake and gay look comes more from adding width to the arch. Eppley full midface implants to match forward growth of lefort(s).
-Recessed midface -> see above ^
-Recessed and low orbital rims giving shit ues and prey eye look if not squinting -> see above ^^
-decently wide palate already and perfect occlusion -> all good there
-neutral or slightly negative canthal tilt -> maaaaybe cantho but I'll decide after rims and everything else. Occulo surgery seems to turn out uncanny, and the main problem there for me is the bones.
-Low, pretty strong brow but no visible browridge -> whatever, minimal difference, not worth changing
-Mediocre upper eye/hooding -> looks good if I squint but otherwise weak, upper eyelid fat injections or whatever people do seem to work well
-Nose is fine, hopefully leforts don't fuck it up
-Ears are fine, no need for otoplasty
-Wrist implants brah :feelsez:

I know that's a lot, but if I had the money(40k tops unless I want two leforts or insurance won't cover the first) it could be all done within two years. People here generally rate me between 4.5-5 psl, but take away good lighting and a squint and that rating drops a bit so lets say low 4s, or 4.5 on a good day. Mid to low tier normie sounds about right. With my bigonial width and mandible size, a chin and some more forward growth would give a pretty damn good jaw. Failo to halo honestly, and a second bimax would be icing on the cake. Advancing my whole midface will make an already pretty nice smile a lot nicer. Undereye support will let me reap the benefits of color halo and my good eyebrows. Advancing my zygos and everything will give me guaranteed hollow cheeks. Improving my skin, getting back to nw0, and contrast maxxing will certainly help too. All said and done I think I'll end up around 5.5 psl. Add in height, physique, and dick halo and I'd be high tier normie, bordering on chadlite. Like Chris Evans with worse eyes and a better jaw, i hope.

After ascending I hope to Trad max with Russian bride maxxing and possibly polygamy as described in these threads:
https://looksmax.org/threads/high-iq-why-polygamy-and-underage-marriage-are-ideal.131830/
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Russian bride theory | Looksmax.org - Men's Self-Improvement & Aesthetics

I ain’t typing shit but here’s a decent channel on Traditional patriarchal “betabuxx” game aka what marriage has always been. he’s a 5’7 white oldcell mid-low normie with lifefuel theories on getting a young, trad wife in ex soviet areas. Here’s a good vid on it @Gargantuan @JackSparrow...
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Alright! Long ass read so if you stuck around for it all then props to you. If not then thanks for bumping me thread with a dnr you fuckin homo. I finally made a Discord, so if you're a bro, find me at Oogastein_Boogaberg#0031. I'll probably stay away from the big groups so it isn't much of a time suck, but I still want to be able to keep in touch with you guys.

Here comes the mass tag of bros to rep me. Thanks for the good advice and great times. I really love this community and I'm gonna miss it. God bless you all, I hope this site makes your life better like it has for me. Be fruitful and multiply, don't be fruity and blow a guy. OOGABOOGA out.

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Sex, women and all these LTRs are cope indeed.

just make yourself happy, buy PC play games and looksmax for yourself not to get sex but to mog normies
 
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I hope you don't delete your account, man. Just ask for a ban instead. Take care and stay winning, kjsbdfiusdf. Bye.
 
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R.I.S (Rest in Stacy).

JFL that won't ever happen.
 
It's been a good run guys. I've learned a lot, laughed a lot, and felt welcome in times that I really needed it.

inb4 see you tmrw: yeah I’ll be here tomorrow to say bye

TLDR: OOGABOOGA out this bitch. Much love and God bless all you faggots.

When I joined here I was a redpilled, bluepilled coper, trying to figure out my life. I couldn't put in words why I'd faced certain difficulties in life, but deep down it was clear. For over a year I'd been a full blown oneitiscel for a girl I'd met at Jesus camp, thinking that she'd stay this naive, good girl who would wait til marriage. The next summer, she'd turned into your standard party girl. Not quite a hoe yet, but once she's off to college, she will be. I could tell she didn't meet the image I'd created of her in my mind. She just really isn't that special, and a handful of good experiences with her made me think otherwise.

At camp, I almost hooked up with her one night while we were drunk, and things went downhill from there. She got really awkward around me, and then invited another guy up to camp to join us. The two ended up spending all their time together, and ended up dating for a while. It was a slap in the face, not so much to me, but to what I thought the world was like. She didn't give a damn that I was a good guy, committed to her but not in a simpy way. She wanted the better looking guy.

Fast forward a month or two and I'm mewing, trying to fix my posture, and knocking back supplements, thinking that one day I'd wake up to a different quality of life. All these things to improve my looks, before I even realized just how important looks truly are. One day I saw a reddit post about mewing, with a few pictures of a guy who looked a good bit like me in terms of facial development. In the comments, someone said that he looked like was recessed, and asked if he had sleep apnea or had ever considered jaw surgery. I had finally entered the rabbit hole.

I finally had an explanation for why I had always struggled in school, despite being one of the smartest people in every class I took. I understood why other people seemed so awake and alive, when I could barely get out of bed every day. I knew why people could balance school, hobbies, and an active social life, when almost all of my time was spent in school, in bed, or on the couch. I had avoided the few opportunities girls had given me because I knew my dick didn't work like it was supposed to, and now it made sense why I had such low sex drive and no morning wood despite having ~900 test, deadlifting 500 pounds at 19, and being lean and athletic all my life. And most importantly, I understood why I never looked as good as my friends. Fuck you jaw recession, and fuck you sleep apnea.

First I lurked on Lookism, and then ended up making an account on *. The first thread I ever made I posted a pic of myself and asked if I should get jaw surgery. My nigga @D@Dante1 told to "lose weight you fat fuck." I had and still have a 6 pack so he was wrong, but Dante you're a bro, I'll find you on Discord. Within a week the site went down, so I came here.

I dreaded that it was over when @
Deleted member 2486
@cocainecowboy blew up threads where he shat on surgery. I dreamt I would ascend do chaddom by making @
CopeAndRope
@CopeAndRope's facepuller. I laughed my ass off when @
Petsmart
@Petsmart and @D@6ft5manletripped into any and anyone. I laughed even harder when @
Short Ugly and Brown
@Short Ugly and Brown's oneitis got doxxed after he tried to pay her $1000 for a kiss.
Spoiler

I learned a lot of bullshit and a lot of truth, made some friends, and felt like I had somewhere to be when nothing seemed to matter. I had fun, but that winter hit me hard.

At the time I was in a shitty little studio apartment in the city for school. I was surrounded by people but I was so damn alone. I had temptations to jump on the tracks every time I caught a train, but I knew as soon as I got on the train one of you fuckers would give me something to laugh about. When I started cutting myself and posting pics of my dripping blood on here, a forum that seemed so toxic turned out to be full of people who wanted the best for each other. I know there were plenty of people who reached out to me and helped me through those days, but my dude @
Fuk
@Fuk stands out most clearly. No offense to anyone else who cared about me then, but his height and looks halo made me value him higher. Anyways, it felt like I had a good friend I could talk to and joke with, so thanks dude. And thanks all of you.

I thank God of course, but there's this joke about God that goes something like this. A hurricane hits a city, and as everyone tries to escape, one man of faith decides to stay because he believes God will protect him. Before the streets flood, his friends pull up to his house and offer him a ride out of the city. He says "God will save me" and prays. The streets begin to flood, and a rescue team drives by in a boat. They tell him to swim to them so they can take him to safety. He says "God will save me" and prays. Hours later, he is waiting on his roof, with the water dangerously close to submerging his entire house. A helicopter flies by and offers him a ride to safety but he tells them "God will save me." A few hours later he has drowned and gone to heaven and he asks "God, why didn't you save me? I was praying for your help." And God tells him "I tried to save you. I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter!"

The point is, God works in mysterious ways. I don't know if I would've killed myself if not for you guys, but I know I thought about it every single day for months. So thank you God for using this shit hole of a forum to save me from my despair.

Anyway, a couple months of jew pills later and one day I stopped thinking of suicide completely. I stopped the drugs soon after and still haven't been suicidal since. Around that time, you retards were shitting your pants over the kung flu, insisting you were all gonna die and pinning threads about hand sanitizer. I left for a few months and came back in the spring, a happier, smarter man, finally officially diagnosed with sleep apnea and on my way to a better life. These last few months have been a great time honestly. I've made so many friends here and I'd say I built up a decent bit of status here. No matter what happens irl, I know that all I need to get some laughs and dopamine is an internet connection.

The thing is, nothing can last forever. I can't keep ldaring in my parents basement, I need to take steps forward in my life. At this point I'm waking up to 10-20 reacts, spending the first hour my day here, then checking back on an hourly basis to rot throughout the day. I just got offered a huge offer to be mentored by and work for my app developer friend who makes a grand or two daily, and drives a 2020 bmw m4 at 19 years old. It's crunch time tbh. If I can sleep right and grind, I could be making six figures within a year as far as I know. He knows the game, and believes in me, even if I have my doubts.

I also just reconnected with my best friend from school. Last I checked he was a stoner and permarotter, and now all of a sudden he's in crazy shape, cutting out games, drugs, porn(sorta), and really getting on the right track. https://looksmax.org/threads/my-old-chad-best-friend.160060/ He's really inspiring me to get my shit together, and I have to start with this place bc it takes more time than anything else and fries my dopa receptors. It's a guilty pleasure I can't keep justifying to myself.

I wish you all the best. I hope you find God if you haven't yet, ascend to the best of your ability, and have kids you can give a better shot at life than we had. If you're interested here's my current status lookswise and my plans to ascend:

-6ft tall -> Good enough, fuck LL, maybe I'd use lifts if I ever became a club rat but I don't see that happening.
-muh dick -> Libido is fucked from sleep apnea, but hopefully this will improve as I continue treating it. I might see a urologist to make sure there aren't other issues
-White, western european mix, pale but able to tan a bit -> MT2 and good nutrition so I can get a tan, helps me a lot
-Medium-light brown hair -> could be worse, I'll experiment with dying darker
-thick brown eyebrows -> might dye them too unless it looks retarded, we'll see
-Hair is thick but I have balding genes on both sides, currently nw 1.5 or so -> I'll try dermarolling, and once my dick starts working better, I'll give fin another try. I took it for a month and it completely halted shedding, but my libido was already too weak to handle it psychologically. Side effects and shedding returned after 1 week off, so hopefully I'm not at risk for PFS. I also expect that I'll get a hair transplant back to nw0. Should be cheap to get a few thousand follicles overseas
-patellar tendinitis -> comes and goes but keeps me from training legs or cardio. Been unable to stick to a PT schedule bc I'm tired af and lazy. So just pt eventually
-body fat ~18% -> I have a slight 6 pack but still have an inch+ of pubic fat pad bc of weird fat distribution and good ab inserts. Eat less train more duh.
-Decent frame and muscle -> Keep training natty for a while until other health issues are sorted out, might consider sarms and/or test down the line but I don't aspire to be some instagram/tinder/nightclub slayer pulling whores. Currently got about 21 inch bidelt and I've definitely got room to grow natty
-15-16 inch neck -> I'll try to squeeze out a couple more inches once my sleep is no longer an issue
-Beard is thick but too light for stubble -> apparently mt2 can darken facial hair like crazy so fingers crossed. If not, no big deal.
-7x5.5 dick -> Not bad on paper, but stupidly big fat pad like I said. Already have bathmate so if that gives me girth, great. If not, well it still gives the temporary girth pump which gets me to about 6 inches. For length I'll just do basic manual stretching with ads to get over 8 bp and over 7 nbp
-teeth could be whiter -> so I'll whiten them
-acne -> Mostly gone 5 months into accutane, no sides other than a bit of dryness btw. My scars aren't too bad but I'll look into laser treatment, chemical peels, derminator, and maybe retin-a in the winter
-decent collagen I suppose -> fuck sunscreen, so I hope that MT2 and diet prevent sun from causing damage to collagen. I will try to stay pretty natural, with things like derminator, aloe vera, a clean diet, and a healthy+sober lifestyle
-Blue eye halo -> keep coping ethnics
-White is right -> see above ^
-Circumcel -> Restore foreskin after reaching PE goals, or maybe before who knows.
-Big skull, warrioresque occiput -> you mirin?
NOW FOR THE HARDMAXXING
-Wide, strong mandible(12-13 cm), but recessed with weak chin -> hopefully I can get trimax covered bc of sleep apnea. Hoping for ccw, high cut lf1+bsso+genio.
-short ramus(~3 cm) but not a huge deal bc of wide bigonial -> might get lengthened a bit with my jaw surgery, tbd
-Recessed maxilla -> Depending on how I look after first lefort I might consider going for another if the first is covered by surgery. If so I'd save up for a higher, quadrangular cut, as close to lf2 as possible, overseas. I'm not expecting to get much room to prioritize aesthetics if it's being covered for medical reasons. I know it's ridiculous to get jaw surgery twice, but I'm pretty pan faced tbh
-Top percentile zygo width but a bit recessed -> I think zygo implants look better if used for forward projection, whereas the fake and gay look comes more from adding width to the arch. Eppley full midface implants to match forward growth of lefort(s).
-Recessed midface -> see above ^
-Recessed and low orbital rims giving shit ues and prey eye look if not squinting -> see above ^^
-decently wide palate already and perfect occlusion -> all good there
-neutral or slightly negative canthal tilt -> maaaaybe cantho but I'll decide after rims and everything else. Occulo surgery seems to turn out uncanny, and the main problem there for me is the bones.
-Low, pretty strong brow but no visible browridge -> whatever, minimal difference, not worth changing
-Mediocre upper eye/hooding -> looks good if I squint but otherwise weak, upper eyelid fat injections or whatever people do seem to work well
-Nose is fine, hopefully leforts don't fuck it up
-Ears are fine, no need for otoplasty
-Wrist implants brah :feelsez:

I know that's a lot, but if I had the money(40k tops unless I want two leforts or insurance won't cover the first) it could be all done within two years. People here generally rate me between 4.5-5 psl, but take away good lighting and a squint and that rating drops a bit so lets say low 4s, or 4.5 on a good day. Mid to low tier normie sounds about right. With my bigonial width and mandible size, a chin and some more forward growth would give a pretty damn good jaw. Failo to halo honestly, and a second bimax would be icing on the cake. Advancing my whole midface will make an already pretty nice smile a lot nicer. Undereye support will let me reap the benefits of color halo and my good eyebrows. Advancing my zygos and everything will give me guaranteed hollow cheeks. Improving my skin, getting back to nw0, and contrast maxxing will certainly help too. All said and done I think I'll end up around 5.5 psl. Add in height, physique, and dick halo and I'd be high tier normie, bordering on chadlite. Like Chris Evans with worse eyes and a better jaw, i hope.

After ascending I hope to Trad max with Russian bride maxxing and possibly polygamy as described in these threads:
https://looksmax.org/threads/high-iq-why-polygamy-and-underage-marriage-are-ideal.131830/
looksmax.org

Russian bride theory | Looksmax.org - Men's Self-Improvement & Aesthetics

I ain’t typing shit but here’s a decent channel on Traditional patriarchal “betabuxx” game aka what marriage has always been. he’s a 5’7 white oldcell mid-low normie with lifefuel theories on getting a young, trad wife in ex soviet areas. Here’s a good vid on it @Gargantuan @JackSparrow...
looksmax.org
looksmax.org

Alright! Long ass read so if you stuck around for it all then props to you. If not then thanks for bumping me thread with a dnr you fuckin homo. I finally made a Discord, so if you're a bro, find me at Oogastein_Boogaberg#0031. I'll probably stay away from the big groups so it isn't much of a time suck, but I still want to be able to keep in touch with you guys.

Here comes the mass tag of bros to rep me. Thanks for the good advice and great times. I really love this community and I'm gonna miss it. God bless you all, I hope this site makes your life better like it has for me. Be fruitful and multiply, don't be fruity and blow a guy. OOGABOOGA out.

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@alexjones @D@Mathafack @@karbo @@Aesthetics_III @@larsanova69 @@nelson @@penis3 @@diggbicc @@turkproducer @@AleksV I didn’t tag you, cry for me. And mods please don’t rape my thread. Lemme say bye to my negros in peace pls.
Oogas I’m out bitches thread made me tear up before I even joined. Truly a cool person
 
This is like the 20th time you've made a goodbye thread...
 
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It's been a good run guys. I've learned a lot, laughed a lot, and felt welcome in times that I really needed it.

inb4 see you tmrw: yeah I’ll be here tomorrow to say bye

TLDR: OOGABOOGA out this bitch. Much love and God bless all you faggots.

When I joined here I was a redpilled, bluepilled coper, trying to figure out my life. I couldn't put in words why I'd faced certain difficulties in life, but deep down it was clear. For over a year I'd been a full blown oneitiscel for a girl I'd met at Jesus camp, thinking that she'd stay this naive, good girl who would wait til marriage. The next summer, she'd turned into your standard party girl. Not quite a hoe yet, but once she's off to college, she will be. I could tell she didn't meet the image I'd created of her in my mind. She just really isn't that special, and a handful of good experiences with her made me think otherwise.

At camp, I almost hooked up with her one night while we were drunk, and things went downhill from there. She got really awkward around me, and then invited another guy up to camp to join us. The two ended up spending all their time together, and ended up dating for a while. It was a slap in the face, not so much to me, but to what I thought the world was like. She didn't give a damn that I was a good guy, committed to her but not in a simpy way. She wanted the better looking guy.

Fast forward a month or two and I'm mewing, trying to fix my posture, and knocking back supplements, thinking that one day I'd wake up to a different quality of life. All these things to improve my looks, before I even realized just how important looks truly are. One day I saw a reddit post about mewing, with a few pictures of a guy who looked a good bit like me in terms of facial development. In the comments, someone said that he looked like was recessed, and asked if he had sleep apnea or had ever considered jaw surgery. I had finally entered the rabbit hole.

I finally had an explanation for why I had always struggled in school, despite being one of the smartest people in every class I took. I understood why other people seemed so awake and alive, when I could barely get out of bed every day. I knew why people could balance school, hobbies, and an active social life, when almost all of my time was spent in school, in bed, or on the couch. I had avoided the few opportunities girls had given me because I knew my dick didn't work like it was supposed to, and now it made sense why I had such low sex drive and no morning wood despite having ~900 test, deadlifting 500 pounds at 19, and being lean and athletic all my life. And most importantly, I understood why I never looked as good as my friends. Fuck you jaw recession, and fuck you sleep apnea.

First I lurked on Lookism, and then ended up making an account on *. The first thread I ever made I posted a pic of myself and asked if I should get jaw surgery. My nigga @D@Dante1 told to "lose weight you fat fuck." I had and still have a 6 pack so he was wrong, but Dante you're a bro, I'll find you on Discord. Within a week the site went down, so I came here.

I dreaded that it was over when @
Deleted member 2486
@cocainecowboy blew up threads where he shat on surgery. I dreamt I would ascend do chaddom by making @
CopeAndRope
@CopeAndRope's facepuller. I laughed my ass off when @
Petsmart
@Petsmart and @D@6ft5manletripped into any and anyone. I laughed even harder when @
Short Ugly and Brown
@Short Ugly and Brown's oneitis got doxxed after he tried to pay her $1000 for a kiss.
Spoiler

I learned a lot of bullshit and a lot of truth, made some friends, and felt like I had somewhere to be when nothing seemed to matter. I had fun, but that winter hit me hard.

At the time I was in a shitty little studio apartment in the city for school. I was surrounded by people but I was so damn alone. I had temptations to jump on the tracks every time I caught a train, but I knew as soon as I got on the train one of you fuckers would give me something to laugh about. When I started cutting myself and posting pics of my dripping blood on here, a forum that seemed so toxic turned out to be full of people who wanted the best for each other. I know there were plenty of people who reached out to me and helped me through those days, but my dude @
Fuk
@Fuk stands out most clearly. No offense to anyone else who cared about me then, but his height and looks halo made me value him higher. Anyways, it felt like I had a good friend I could talk to and joke with, so thanks dude. And thanks all of you.

I thank God of course, but there's this joke about God that goes something like this. A hurricane hits a city, and as everyone tries to escape, one man of faith decides to stay because he believes God will protect him. Before the streets flood, his friends pull up to his house and offer him a ride out of the city. He says "God will save me" and prays. The streets begin to flood, and a rescue team drives by in a boat. They tell him to swim to them so they can take him to safety. He says "God will save me" and prays. Hours later, he is waiting on his roof, with the water dangerously close to submerging his entire house. A helicopter flies by and offers him a ride to safety but he tells them "God will save me." A few hours later he has drowned and gone to heaven and he asks "God, why didn't you save me? I was praying for your help." And God tells him "I tried to save you. I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter!"

The point is, God works in mysterious ways. I don't know if I would've killed myself if not for you guys, but I know I thought about it every single day for months. So thank you God for using this shit hole of a forum to save me from my despair.

Anyway, a couple months of jew pills later and one day I stopped thinking of suicide completely. I stopped the drugs soon after and still haven't been suicidal since. Around that time, you retards were shitting your pants over the kung flu, insisting you were all gonna die and pinning threads about hand sanitizer. I left for a few months and came back in the spring, a happier, smarter man, finally officially diagnosed with sleep apnea and on my way to a better life. These last few months have been a great time honestly. I've made so many friends here and I'd say I built up a decent bit of status here. No matter what happens irl, I know that all I need to get some laughs and dopamine is an internet connection.

The thing is, nothing can last forever. I can't keep ldaring in my parents basement, I need to take steps forward in my life. At this point I'm waking up to 10-20 reacts, spending the first hour my day here, then checking back on an hourly basis to rot throughout the day. I just got offered a huge offer to be mentored by and work for my app developer friend who makes a grand or two daily, and drives a 2020 bmw m4 at 19 years old. It's crunch time tbh. If I can sleep right and grind, I could be making six figures within a year as far as I know. He knows the game, and believes in me, even if I have my doubts.

I also just reconnected with my best friend from school. Last I checked he was a stoner and permarotter, and now all of a sudden he's in crazy shape, cutting out games, drugs, porn(sorta), and really getting on the right track. https://looksmax.org/threads/my-old-chad-best-friend.160060/ He's really inspiring me to get my shit together, and I have to start with this place bc it takes more time than anything else and fries my dopa receptors. It's a guilty pleasure I can't keep justifying to myself.

I wish you all the best. I hope you find God if you haven't yet, ascend to the best of your ability, and have kids you can give a better shot at life than we had. If you're interested here's my current status lookswise and my plans to ascend:

-6ft tall -> Good enough, fuck LL, maybe I'd use lifts if I ever became a club rat but I don't see that happening.
-muh dick -> Libido is fucked from sleep apnea, but hopefully this will improve as I continue treating it. I might see a urologist to make sure there aren't other issues
-White, western european mix, pale but able to tan a bit -> MT2 and good nutrition so I can get a tan, helps me a lot
-Medium-light brown hair -> could be worse, I'll experiment with dying darker
-thick brown eyebrows -> might dye them too unless it looks retarded, we'll see
-Hair is thick but I have balding genes on both sides, currently nw 1.5 or so -> I'll try dermarolling, and once my dick starts working better, I'll give fin another try. I took it for a month and it completely halted shedding, but my libido was already too weak to handle it psychologically. Side effects and shedding returned after 1 week off, so hopefully I'm not at risk for PFS. I also expect that I'll get a hair transplant back to nw0. Should be cheap to get a few thousand follicles overseas
-patellar tendinitis -> comes and goes but keeps me from training legs or cardio. Been unable to stick to a PT schedule bc I'm tired af and lazy. So just pt eventually
-body fat ~18% -> I have a slight 6 pack but still have an inch+ of pubic fat pad bc of weird fat distribution and good ab inserts. Eat less train more duh.
-Decent frame and muscle -> Keep training natty for a while until other health issues are sorted out, might consider sarms and/or test down the line but I don't aspire to be some instagram/tinder/nightclub slayer pulling whores. Currently got about 21 inch bidelt and I've definitely got room to grow natty
-15-16 inch neck -> I'll try to squeeze out a couple more inches once my sleep is no longer an issue
-Beard is thick but too light for stubble -> apparently mt2 can darken facial hair like crazy so fingers crossed. If not, no big deal.
-7x5.5 dick -> Not bad on paper, but stupidly big fat pad like I said. Already have bathmate so if that gives me girth, great. If not, well it still gives the temporary girth pump which gets me to about 6 inches. For length I'll just do basic manual stretching with ads to get over 8 bp and over 7 nbp
-teeth could be whiter -> so I'll whiten them
-acne -> Mostly gone 5 months into accutane, no sides other than a bit of dryness btw. My scars aren't too bad but I'll look into laser treatment, chemical peels, derminator, and maybe retin-a in the winter
-decent collagen I suppose -> fuck sunscreen, so I hope that MT2 and diet prevent sun from causing damage to collagen. I will try to stay pretty natural, with things like derminator, aloe vera, a clean diet, and a healthy+sober lifestyle
-Blue eye halo -> keep coping ethnics
-White is right -> see above ^
-Circumcel -> Restore foreskin after reaching PE goals, or maybe before who knows.
-Big skull, warrioresque occiput -> you mirin?
NOW FOR THE HARDMAXXING
-Wide, strong mandible(12-13 cm), but recessed with weak chin -> hopefully I can get trimax covered bc of sleep apnea. Hoping for ccw, high cut lf1+bsso+genio.
-short ramus(~3 cm) but not a huge deal bc of wide bigonial -> might get lengthened a bit with my jaw surgery, tbd
-Recessed maxilla -> Depending on how I look after first lefort I might consider going for another if the first is covered by surgery. If so I'd save up for a higher, quadrangular cut, as close to lf2 as possible, overseas. I'm not expecting to get much room to prioritize aesthetics if it's being covered for medical reasons. I know it's ridiculous to get jaw surgery twice, but I'm pretty pan faced tbh
-Top percentile zygo width but a bit recessed -> I think zygo implants look better if used for forward projection, whereas the fake and gay look comes more from adding width to the arch. Eppley full midface implants to match forward growth of lefort(s).
-Recessed midface -> see above ^
-Recessed and low orbital rims giving shit ues and prey eye look if not squinting -> see above ^^
-decently wide palate already and perfect occlusion -> all good there
-neutral or slightly negative canthal tilt -> maaaaybe cantho but I'll decide after rims and everything else. Occulo surgery seems to turn out uncanny, and the main problem there for me is the bones.
-Low, pretty strong brow but no visible browridge -> whatever, minimal difference, not worth changing
-Mediocre upper eye/hooding -> looks good if I squint but otherwise weak, upper eyelid fat injections or whatever people do seem to work well
-Nose is fine, hopefully leforts don't fuck it up
-Ears are fine, no need for otoplasty
-Wrist implants brah :feelsez:

I know that's a lot, but if I had the money(40k tops unless I want two leforts or insurance won't cover the first) it could be all done within two years. People here generally rate me between 4.5-5 psl, but take away good lighting and a squint and that rating drops a bit so lets say low 4s, or 4.5 on a good day. Mid to low tier normie sounds about right. With my bigonial width and mandible size, a chin and some more forward growth would give a pretty damn good jaw. Failo to halo honestly, and a second bimax would be icing on the cake. Advancing my whole midface will make an already pretty nice smile a lot nicer. Undereye support will let me reap the benefits of color halo and my good eyebrows. Advancing my zygos and everything will give me guaranteed hollow cheeks. Improving my skin, getting back to nw0, and contrast maxxing will certainly help too. All said and done I think I'll end up around 5.5 psl. Add in height, physique, and dick halo and I'd be high tier normie, bordering on chadlite. Like Chris Evans with worse eyes and a better jaw, i hope.

After ascending I hope to Trad max with Russian bride maxxing and possibly polygamy as described in these threads:
https://looksmax.org/threads/high-iq-why-polygamy-and-underage-marriage-are-ideal.131830/
looksmax.org

Russian bride theory | Looksmax.org - Men's Self-Improvement & Aesthetics

I ain’t typing shit but here’s a decent channel on Traditional patriarchal “betabuxx” game aka what marriage has always been. he’s a 5’7 white oldcell mid-low normie with lifefuel theories on getting a young, trad wife in ex soviet areas. Here’s a good vid on it @Gargantuan @JackSparrow...
looksmax.org
looksmax.org

Alright! Long ass read so if you stuck around for it all then props to you. If not then thanks for bumping me thread with a dnr you fuckin homo. I finally made a Discord, so if you're a bro, find me at Oogastein_Boogaberg#0031. I'll probably stay away from the big groups so it isn't much of a time suck, but I still want to be able to keep in touch with you guys.

Here comes the mass tag of bros to rep me. Thanks for the good advice and great times. I really love this community and I'm gonna miss it. God bless you all, I hope this site makes your life better like it has for me. Be fruitful and multiply, don't be fruity and blow a guy. OOGABOOGA out.

@@Gargantuan @@JackSparrow @@forwardgrowth @S@Subhuman trash @@theREALbleachcel @@Dogs @@LordNorwood @@Nosecel (PLEEEEASE DON'T DELETE THIS THREAD IF I TAG TOO MANY PEOPLE) @@Ritalincel @@Pietrosiek @D@6ft1 @@BigBiceps @@Elias @
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@alexjones @D@Mathafack @@karbo @@Aesthetics_III @@larsanova69 @@nelson @@penis3 @@diggbicc @@turkproducer @@AleksV I didn’t tag you, cry for me. And mods please don’t rape my thread. Lemme say bye to my negros in peace pls.
Bye. Comiliso amigi ne do sa ji papi me gusta papi pai pap
 
It's been a good run guys. I've learned a lot, laughed a lot, and felt welcome in times that I really needed it.

inb4 see you tmrw: yeah I’ll be here tomorrow to say bye

TLDR: OOGABOOGA out this bitch. Much love and God bless all you faggots.

When I joined here I was a redpilled, bluepilled coper, trying to figure out my life. I couldn't put in words why I'd faced certain difficulties in life, but deep down it was clear. For over a year I'd been a full blown oneitiscel for a girl I'd met at Jesus camp, thinking that she'd stay this naive, good girl who would wait til marriage. The next summer, she'd turned into your standard party girl. Not quite a hoe yet, but once she's off to college, she will be. I could tell she didn't meet the image I'd created of her in my mind. She just really isn't that special, and a handful of good experiences with her made me think otherwise.

At camp, I almost hooked up with her one night while we were drunk, and things went downhill from there. She got really awkward around me, and then invited another guy up to camp to join us. The two ended up spending all their time together, and ended up dating for a while. It was a slap in the face, not so much to me, but to what I thought the world was like. She didn't give a damn that I was a good guy, committed to her but not in a simpy way. She wanted the better looking guy.

Fast forward a month or two and I'm mewing, trying to fix my posture, and knocking back supplements, thinking that one day I'd wake up to a different quality of life. All these things to improve my looks, before I even realized just how important looks truly are. One day I saw a reddit post about mewing, with a few pictures of a guy who looked a good bit like me in terms of facial development. In the comments, someone said that he looked like was recessed, and asked if he had sleep apnea or had ever considered jaw surgery. I had finally entered the rabbit hole.

I finally had an explanation for why I had always struggled in school, despite being one of the smartest people in every class I took. I understood why other people seemed so awake and alive, when I could barely get out of bed every day. I knew why people could balance school, hobbies, and an active social life, when almost all of my time was spent in school, in bed, or on the couch. I had avoided the few opportunities girls had given me because I knew my dick didn't work like it was supposed to, and now it made sense why I had such low sex drive and no morning wood despite having ~900 test, deadlifting 500 pounds at 19, and being lean and athletic all my life. And most importantly, I understood why I never looked as good as my friends. Fuck you jaw recession, and fuck you sleep apnea.

First I lurked on Lookism, and then ended up making an account on *. The first thread I ever made I posted a pic of myself and asked if I should get jaw surgery. My nigga @D@Dante1 told to "lose weight you fat fuck." I had and still have a 6 pack so he was wrong, but Dante you're a bro, I'll find you on Discord. Within a week the site went down, so I came here.

I dreaded that it was over when @
Deleted member 2486
@cocainecowboy blew up threads where he shat on surgery. I dreamt I would ascend do chaddom by making @
CopeAndRope
@CopeAndRope's facepuller. I laughed my ass off when @
Petsmart
@Petsmart and @D@6ft5manletripped into any and anyone. I laughed even harder when @
Short Ugly and Brown
@Short Ugly and Brown's oneitis got doxxed after he tried to pay her $1000 for a kiss.
Spoiler

I learned a lot of bullshit and a lot of truth, made some friends, and felt like I had somewhere to be when nothing seemed to matter. I had fun, but that winter hit me hard.

At the time I was in a shitty little studio apartment in the city for school. I was surrounded by people but I was so damn alone. I had temptations to jump on the tracks every time I caught a train, but I knew as soon as I got on the train one of you fuckers would give me something to laugh about. When I started cutting myself and posting pics of my dripping blood on here, a forum that seemed so toxic turned out to be full of people who wanted the best for each other. I know there were plenty of people who reached out to me and helped me through those days, but my dude @
Fuk
@Fuk stands out most clearly. No offense to anyone else who cared about me then, but his height and looks halo made me value him higher. Anyways, it felt like I had a good friend I could talk to and joke with, so thanks dude. And thanks all of you.

I thank God of course, but there's this joke about God that goes something like this. A hurricane hits a city, and as everyone tries to escape, one man of faith decides to stay because he believes God will protect him. Before the streets flood, his friends pull up to his house and offer him a ride out of the city. He says "God will save me" and prays. The streets begin to flood, and a rescue team drives by in a boat. They tell him to swim to them so they can take him to safety. He says "God will save me" and prays. Hours later, he is waiting on his roof, with the water dangerously close to submerging his entire house. A helicopter flies by and offers him a ride to safety but he tells them "God will save me." A few hours later he has drowned and gone to heaven and he asks "God, why didn't you save me? I was praying for your help." And God tells him "I tried to save you. I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter!"

The point is, God works in mysterious ways. I don't know if I would've killed myself if not for you guys, but I know I thought about it every single day for months. So thank you God for using this shit hole of a forum to save me from my despair.

Anyway, a couple months of jew pills later and one day I stopped thinking of suicide completely. I stopped the drugs soon after and still haven't been suicidal since. Around that time, you retards were shitting your pants over the kung flu, insisting you were all gonna die and pinning threads about hand sanitizer. I left for a few months and came back in the spring, a happier, smarter man, finally officially diagnosed with sleep apnea and on my way to a better life. These last few months have been a great time honestly. I've made so many friends here and I'd say I built up a decent bit of status here. No matter what happens irl, I know that all I need to get some laughs and dopamine is an internet connection.

The thing is, nothing can last forever. I can't keep ldaring in my parents basement, I need to take steps forward in my life. At this point I'm waking up to 10-20 reacts, spending the first hour my day here, then checking back on an hourly basis to rot throughout the day. I just got offered a huge offer to be mentored by and work for my app developer friend who makes a grand or two daily, and drives a 2020 bmw m4 at 19 years old. It's crunch time tbh. If I can sleep right and grind, I could be making six figures within a year as far as I know. He knows the game, and believes in me, even if I have my doubts.

I also just reconnected with my best friend from school. Last I checked he was a stoner and permarotter, and now all of a sudden he's in crazy shape, cutting out games, drugs, porn(sorta), and really getting on the right track. https://looksmax.org/threads/my-old-chad-best-friend.160060/ He's really inspiring me to get my shit together, and I have to start with this place bc it takes more time than anything else and fries my dopa receptors. It's a guilty pleasure I can't keep justifying to myself.

I wish you all the best. I hope you find God if you haven't yet, ascend to the best of your ability, and have kids you can give a better shot at life than we had. If you're interested here's my current status lookswise and my plans to ascend:

-6ft tall -> Good enough, fuck LL, maybe I'd use lifts if I ever became a club rat but I don't see that happening.
-muh dick -> Libido is fucked from sleep apnea, but hopefully this will improve as I continue treating it. I might see a urologist to make sure there aren't other issues
-White, western european mix, pale but able to tan a bit -> MT2 and good nutrition so I can get a tan, helps me a lot
-Medium-light brown hair -> could be worse, I'll experiment with dying darker
-thick brown eyebrows -> might dye them too unless it looks retarded, we'll see
-Hair is thick but I have balding genes on both sides, currently nw 1.5 or so -> I'll try dermarolling, and once my dick starts working better, I'll give fin another try. I took it for a month and it completely halted shedding, but my libido was already too weak to handle it psychologically. Side effects and shedding returned after 1 week off, so hopefully I'm not at risk for PFS. I also expect that I'll get a hair transplant back to nw0. Should be cheap to get a few thousand follicles overseas
-patellar tendinitis -> comes and goes but keeps me from training legs or cardio. Been unable to stick to a PT schedule bc I'm tired af and lazy. So just pt eventually
-body fat ~18% -> I have a slight 6 pack but still have an inch+ of pubic fat pad bc of weird fat distribution and good ab inserts. Eat less train more duh.
-Decent frame and muscle -> Keep training natty for a while until other health issues are sorted out, might consider sarms and/or test down the line but I don't aspire to be some instagram/tinder/nightclub slayer pulling whores. Currently got about 21 inch bidelt and I've definitely got room to grow natty
-15-16 inch neck -> I'll try to squeeze out a couple more inches once my sleep is no longer an issue
-Beard is thick but too light for stubble -> apparently mt2 can darken facial hair like crazy so fingers crossed. If not, no big deal.
-7x5.5 dick -> Not bad on paper, but stupidly big fat pad like I said. Already have bathmate so if that gives me girth, great. If not, well it still gives the temporary girth pump which gets me to about 6 inches. For length I'll just do basic manual stretching with ads to get over 8 bp and over 7 nbp
-teeth could be whiter -> so I'll whiten them
-acne -> Mostly gone 5 months into accutane, no sides other than a bit of dryness btw. My scars aren't too bad but I'll look into laser treatment, chemical peels, derminator, and maybe retin-a in the winter
-decent collagen I suppose -> fuck sunscreen, so I hope that MT2 and diet prevent sun from causing damage to collagen. I will try to stay pretty natural, with things like derminator, aloe vera, a clean diet, and a healthy+sober lifestyle
-Blue eye halo -> keep coping ethnics
-White is right -> see above ^
-Circumcel -> Restore foreskin after reaching PE goals, or maybe before who knows.
-Big skull, warrioresque occiput -> you mirin?
NOW FOR THE HARDMAXXING
-Wide, strong mandible(12-13 cm), but recessed with weak chin -> hopefully I can get trimax covered bc of sleep apnea. Hoping for ccw, high cut lf1+bsso+genio.
-short ramus(~3 cm) but not a huge deal bc of wide bigonial -> might get lengthened a bit with my jaw surgery, tbd
-Recessed maxilla -> Depending on how I look after first lefort I might consider going for another if the first is covered by surgery. If so I'd save up for a higher, quadrangular cut, as close to lf2 as possible, overseas. I'm not expecting to get much room to prioritize aesthetics if it's being covered for medical reasons. I know it's ridiculous to get jaw surgery twice, but I'm pretty pan faced tbh
-Top percentile zygo width but a bit recessed -> I think zygo implants look better if used for forward projection, whereas the fake and gay look comes more from adding width to the arch. Eppley full midface implants to match forward growth of lefort(s).
-Recessed midface -> see above ^
-Recessed and low orbital rims giving shit ues and prey eye look if not squinting -> see above ^^
-decently wide palate already and perfect occlusion -> all good there
-neutral or slightly negative canthal tilt -> maaaaybe cantho but I'll decide after rims and everything else. Occulo surgery seems to turn out uncanny, and the main problem there for me is the bones.
-Low, pretty strong brow but no visible browridge -> whatever, minimal difference, not worth changing
-Mediocre upper eye/hooding -> looks good if I squint but otherwise weak, upper eyelid fat injections or whatever people do seem to work well
-Nose is fine, hopefully leforts don't fuck it up
-Ears are fine, no need for otoplasty
-Wrist implants brah :feelsez:

I know that's a lot, but if I had the money(40k tops unless I want two leforts or insurance won't cover the first) it could be all done within two years. People here generally rate me between 4.5-5 psl, but take away good lighting and a squint and that rating drops a bit so lets say low 4s, or 4.5 on a good day. Mid to low tier normie sounds about right. With my bigonial width and mandible size, a chin and some more forward growth would give a pretty damn good jaw. Failo to halo honestly, and a second bimax would be icing on the cake. Advancing my whole midface will make an already pretty nice smile a lot nicer. Undereye support will let me reap the benefits of color halo and my good eyebrows. Advancing my zygos and everything will give me guaranteed hollow cheeks. Improving my skin, getting back to nw0, and contrast maxxing will certainly help too. All said and done I think I'll end up around 5.5 psl. Add in height, physique, and dick halo and I'd be high tier normie, bordering on chadlite. Like Chris Evans with worse eyes and a better jaw, i hope.

After ascending I hope to Trad max with Russian bride maxxing and possibly polygamy as described in these threads:
https://looksmax.org/threads/high-iq-why-polygamy-and-underage-marriage-are-ideal.131830/
looksmax.org

Russian bride theory | Looksmax.org - Men's Self-Improvement & Aesthetics

I ain’t typing shit but here’s a decent channel on Traditional patriarchal “betabuxx” game aka what marriage has always been. he’s a 5’7 white oldcell mid-low normie with lifefuel theories on getting a young, trad wife in ex soviet areas. Here’s a good vid on it @Gargantuan @JackSparrow...
looksmax.org
looksmax.org

Alright! Long ass read so if you stuck around for it all then props to you. If not then thanks for bumping me thread with a dnr you fuckin homo. I finally made a Discord, so if you're a bro, find me at Oogastein_Boogaberg#0031. I'll probably stay away from the big groups so it isn't much of a time suck, but I still want to be able to keep in touch with you guys.

Here comes the mass tag of bros to rep me. Thanks for the good advice and great times. I really love this community and I'm gonna miss it. God bless you all, I hope this site makes your life better like it has for me. Be fruitful and multiply, don't be fruity and blow a guy. OOGABOOGA out.

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When I need to feel nostalgic I revisit this thread. I didn’t even knew ooga back then but that nigga is charismatic af. I was sad he left and I didn’t even have an account on here. God damn. Chad through and through.
 
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When I need to feel nostalgic I revisit this thread. I didn’t even knew ooga back then but that nigga is charismatic af. I was sad he left and I didn’t even have an account on here. God damn. Chad through and through.
anks my negus 👑👑👑
 
It's been a good run guys. I've learned a lot, laughed a lot, and felt welcome in times that I really needed it.

inb4 see you tmrw: yeah I’ll be here tomorrow to say bye

TLDR: OOGABOOGA out this bitch. Much love and God bless all you faggots.

When I joined here I was a redpilled, bluepilled coper, trying to figure out my life. I couldn't put in words why I'd faced certain difficulties in life, but deep down it was clear. For over a year I'd been a full blown oneitiscel for a girl I'd met at Jesus camp, thinking that she'd stay this naive, good girl who would wait til marriage. The next summer, she'd turned into your standard party girl. Not quite a hoe yet, but once she's off to college, she will be. I could tell she didn't meet the image I'd created of her in my mind. She just really isn't that special, and a handful of good experiences with her made me think otherwise.

At camp, I almost hooked up with her one night while we were drunk, and things went downhill from there. She got really awkward around me, and then invited another guy up to camp to join us. The two ended up spending all their time together, and ended up dating for a while. It was a slap in the face, not so much to me, but to what I thought the world was like. She didn't give a damn that I was a good guy, committed to her but not in a simpy way. She wanted the better looking guy.

Fast forward a month or two and I'm mewing, trying to fix my posture, and knocking back supplements, thinking that one day I'd wake up to a different quality of life. All these things to improve my looks, before I even realized just how important looks truly are. One day I saw a reddit post about mewing, with a few pictures of a guy who looked a good bit like me in terms of facial development. In the comments, someone said that he looked like was recessed, and asked if he had sleep apnea or had ever considered jaw surgery. I had finally entered the rabbit hole.

I finally had an explanation for why I had always struggled in school, despite being one of the smartest people in every class I took. I understood why other people seemed so awake and alive, when I could barely get out of bed every day. I knew why people could balance school, hobbies, and an active social life, when almost all of my time was spent in school, in bed, or on the couch. I had avoided the few opportunities girls had given me because I knew my dick didn't work like it was supposed to, and now it made sense why I had such low sex drive and no morning wood despite having ~900 test, deadlifting 500 pounds at 19, and being lean and athletic all my life. And most importantly, I understood why I never looked as good as my friends. Fuck you jaw recession, and fuck you sleep apnea.

First I lurked on Lookism, and then ended up making an account on *. The first thread I ever made I posted a pic of myself and asked if I should get jaw surgery. My nigga @D@Dante1 told to "lose weight you fat fuck." I had and still have a 6 pack so he was wrong, but Dante you're a bro, I'll find you on Discord. Within a week the site went down, so I came here.

I dreaded that it was over when @
Deleted member 2486
@cocainecowboy blew up threads where he shat on surgery. I dreamt I would ascend do chaddom by making @
CopeAndRope
@CopeAndRope's facepuller. I laughed my ass off when @
Petsmart
@Petsmart and @D@6ft5manletripped into any and anyone. I laughed even harder when @
Short Ugly and Brown
@Short Ugly and Brown's oneitis got doxxed after he tried to pay her $1000 for a kiss.
Spoiler

I learned a lot of bullshit and a lot of truth, made some friends, and felt like I had somewhere to be when nothing seemed to matter. I had fun, but that winter hit me hard.

At the time I was in a shitty little studio apartment in the city for school. I was surrounded by people but I was so damn alone. I had temptations to jump on the tracks every time I caught a train, but I knew as soon as I got on the train one of you fuckers would give me something to laugh about. When I started cutting myself and posting pics of my dripping blood on here, a forum that seemed so toxic turned out to be full of people who wanted the best for each other. I know there were plenty of people who reached out to me and helped me through those days, but my dude @
Fuk
@Fuk stands out most clearly. No offense to anyone else who cared about me then, but his height and looks halo made me value him higher. Anyways, it felt like I had a good friend I could talk to and joke with, so thanks dude. And thanks all of you.

I thank God of course, but there's this joke about God that goes something like this. A hurricane hits a city, and as everyone tries to escape, one man of faith decides to stay because he believes God will protect him. Before the streets flood, his friends pull up to his house and offer him a ride out of the city. He says "God will save me" and prays. The streets begin to flood, and a rescue team drives by in a boat. They tell him to swim to them so they can take him to safety. He says "God will save me" and prays. Hours later, he is waiting on his roof, with the water dangerously close to submerging his entire house. A helicopter flies by and offers him a ride to safety but he tells them "God will save me." A few hours later he has drowned and gone to heaven and he asks "God, why didn't you save me? I was praying for your help." And God tells him "I tried to save you. I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter!"

The point is, God works in mysterious ways. I don't know if I would've killed myself if not for you guys, but I know I thought about it every single day for months. So thank you God for using this shit hole of a forum to save me from my despair.

Anyway, a couple months of jew pills later and one day I stopped thinking of suicide completely. I stopped the drugs soon after and still haven't been suicidal since. Around that time, you retards were shitting your pants over the kung flu, insisting you were all gonna die and pinning threads about hand sanitizer. I left for a few months and came back in the spring, a happier, smarter man, finally officially diagnosed with sleep apnea and on my way to a better life. These last few months have been a great time honestly. I've made so many friends here and I'd say I built up a decent bit of status here. No matter what happens irl, I know that all I need to get some laughs and dopamine is an internet connection.

The thing is, nothing can last forever. I can't keep ldaring in my parents basement, I need to take steps forward in my life. At this point I'm waking up to 10-20 reacts, spending the first hour my day here, then checking back on an hourly basis to rot throughout the day. I just got offered a huge offer to be mentored by and work for my app developer friend who makes a grand or two daily, and drives a 2020 bmw m4 at 19 years old. It's crunch time tbh. If I can sleep right and grind, I could be making six figures within a year as far as I know. He knows the game, and believes in me, even if I have my doubts.

I also just reconnected with my best friend from school. Last I checked he was a stoner and permarotter, and now all of a sudden he's in crazy shape, cutting out games, drugs, porn(sorta), and really getting on the right track. https://looksmax.org/threads/my-old-chad-best-friend.160060/ He's really inspiring me to get my shit together, and I have to start with this place bc it takes more time than anything else and fries my dopa receptors. It's a guilty pleasure I can't keep justifying to myself.

I wish you all the best. I hope you find God if you haven't yet, ascend to the best of your ability, and have kids you can give a better shot at life than we had. If you're interested here's my current status lookswise and my plans to ascend:

-6ft tall -> Good enough, fuck LL, maybe I'd use lifts if I ever became a club rat but I don't see that happening.
-muh dick -> Libido is fucked from sleep apnea, but hopefully this will improve as I continue treating it. I might see a urologist to make sure there aren't other issues
-White, western european mix, pale but able to tan a bit -> MT2 and good nutrition so I can get a tan, helps me a lot
-Medium-light brown hair -> could be worse, I'll experiment with dying darker
-thick brown eyebrows -> might dye them too unless it looks retarded, we'll see
-Hair is thick but I have balding genes on both sides, currently nw 1.5 or so -> I'll try dermarolling, and once my dick starts working better, I'll give fin another try. I took it for a month and it completely halted shedding, but my libido was already too weak to handle it psychologically. Side effects and shedding returned after 1 week off, so hopefully I'm not at risk for PFS. I also expect that I'll get a hair transplant back to nw0. Should be cheap to get a few thousand follicles overseas
-patellar tendinitis -> comes and goes but keeps me from training legs or cardio. Been unable to stick to a PT schedule bc I'm tired af and lazy. So just pt eventually
-body fat ~18% -> I have a slight 6 pack but still have an inch+ of pubic fat pad bc of weird fat distribution and good ab inserts. Eat less train more duh.
-Decent frame and muscle -> Keep training natty for a while until other health issues are sorted out, might consider sarms and/or test down the line but I don't aspire to be some instagram/tinder/nightclub slayer pulling whores. Currently got about 21 inch bidelt and I've definitely got room to grow natty
-15-16 inch neck -> I'll try to squeeze out a couple more inches once my sleep is no longer an issue
-Beard is thick but too light for stubble -> apparently mt2 can darken facial hair like crazy so fingers crossed. If not, no big deal.
-7x5.5 dick -> Not bad on paper, but stupidly big fat pad like I said. Already have bathmate so if that gives me girth, great. If not, well it still gives the temporary girth pump which gets me to about 6 inches. For length I'll just do basic manual stretching with ads to get over 8 bp and over 7 nbp
-teeth could be whiter -> so I'll whiten them
-acne -> Mostly gone 5 months into accutane, no sides other than a bit of dryness btw. My scars aren't too bad but I'll look into laser treatment, chemical peels, derminator, and maybe retin-a in the winter
-decent collagen I suppose -> fuck sunscreen, so I hope that MT2 and diet prevent sun from causing damage to collagen. I will try to stay pretty natural, with things like derminator, aloe vera, a clean diet, and a healthy+sober lifestyle
-Blue eye halo -> keep coping ethnics
-White is right -> see above ^
-Circumcel -> Restore foreskin after reaching PE goals, or maybe before who knows.
-Big skull, warrioresque occiput -> you mirin?
NOW FOR THE HARDMAXXING
-Wide, strong mandible(12-13 cm), but recessed with weak chin -> hopefully I can get trimax covered bc of sleep apnea. Hoping for ccw, high cut lf1+bsso+genio.
-short ramus(~3 cm) but not a huge deal bc of wide bigonial -> might get lengthened a bit with my jaw surgery, tbd
-Recessed maxilla -> Depending on how I look after first lefort I might consider going for another if the first is covered by surgery. If so I'd save up for a higher, quadrangular cut, as close to lf2 as possible, overseas. I'm not expecting to get much room to prioritize aesthetics if it's being covered for medical reasons. I know it's ridiculous to get jaw surgery twice, but I'm pretty pan faced tbh
-Top percentile zygo width but a bit recessed -> I think zygo implants look better if used for forward projection, whereas the fake and gay look comes more from adding width to the arch. Eppley full midface implants to match forward growth of lefort(s).
-Recessed midface -> see above ^
-Recessed and low orbital rims giving shit ues and prey eye look if not squinting -> see above ^^
-decently wide palate already and perfect occlusion -> all good there
-neutral or slightly negative canthal tilt -> maaaaybe cantho but I'll decide after rims and everything else. Occulo surgery seems to turn out uncanny, and the main problem there for me is the bones.
-Low, pretty strong brow but no visible browridge -> whatever, minimal difference, not worth changing
-Mediocre upper eye/hooding -> looks good if I squint but otherwise weak, upper eyelid fat injections or whatever people do seem to work well
-Nose is fine, hopefully leforts don't fuck it up
-Ears are fine, no need for otoplasty
-Wrist implants brah :feelsez:

I know that's a lot, but if I had the money(40k tops unless I want two leforts or insurance won't cover the first) it could be all done within two years. People here generally rate me between 4.5-5 psl, but take away good lighting and a squint and that rating drops a bit so lets say low 4s, or 4.5 on a good day. Mid to low tier normie sounds about right. With my bigonial width and mandible size, a chin and some more forward growth would give a pretty damn good jaw. Failo to halo honestly, and a second bimax would be icing on the cake. Advancing my whole midface will make an already pretty nice smile a lot nicer. Undereye support will let me reap the benefits of color halo and my good eyebrows. Advancing my zygos and everything will give me guaranteed hollow cheeks. Improving my skin, getting back to nw0, and contrast maxxing will certainly help too. All said and done I think I'll end up around 5.5 psl. Add in height, physique, and dick halo and I'd be high tier normie, bordering on chadlite. Like Chris Evans with worse eyes and a better jaw, i hope.

After ascending I hope to Trad max with Russian bride maxxing and possibly polygamy as described in these threads:
https://looksmax.org/threads/high-iq-why-polygamy-and-underage-marriage-are-ideal.131830/
looksmax.org

Russian bride theory | Looksmax.org - Men's Self-Improvement & Aesthetics

I ain’t typing shit but here’s a decent channel on Traditional patriarchal “betabuxx” game aka what marriage has always been. he’s a 5’7 white oldcell mid-low normie with lifefuel theories on getting a young, trad wife in ex soviet areas. Here’s a good vid on it @Gargantuan @JackSparrow...
looksmax.org
looksmax.org

Alright! Long ass read so if you stuck around for it all then props to you. If not then thanks for bumping me thread with a dnr you fuckin homo. I finally made a Discord, so if you're a bro, find me at Oogastein_Boogaberg#0031. I'll probably stay away from the big groups so it isn't much of a time suck, but I still want to be able to keep in touch with you guys.

Here comes the mass tag of bros to rep me. Thanks for the good advice and great times. I really love this community and I'm gonna miss it. God bless you all, I hope this site makes your life better like it has for me. Be fruitful and multiply, don't be fruity and blow a guy. OOGABOOGA out.

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