Jaw surgery is cope

[Deleted member 10615]

Very rarely see results that are a 1.5 or more increase, the only way it could ascend you is if you’re 6ft up, good colouring, good brows, all your hair, compact midface and not balding

litterally all it does is give you a normie jaw

I’m starting to think if your recessed there is no hope to ascend past 5psl

If someone can prove me wrong that would be good but I just don’t see it as a option to ascend

if your in the situation where you need jaw surgery to begin with your fucked from the very start

it’s over for us recessed people

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Bimax+Implants.

I’m starting to think if your recessed there is no hope to ascend past 5psl

Cope

 

[Deleted member 10615]

Bimax+Implants.


Cope
View attachment 1226026View attachment 1226027
View attachment 1226024View attachment 1226023

There not recessed, sure there maxillas are a little flat but they are no way near a truly recessed person

they don’t need any surgery

very far from a recessed person there bones are good in fact

 

[Deleted member 10615]

Bimax+Implants.


Cope
View attachment 1226026View attachment 1226027
View attachment 1226024View attachment 1226023

Also I’m talking more about lower third, jaw surgery can fix a bad lower third it only makes it average

you can’t go from recessed to a Beckham or Chico jaw

 

[Jason Voorhees]

There not recessed, sure there maxillas are a little flat but they are no way near a truly recessed person

they don’t need any surgery

very far from a recessed person there bones are good in fact

By recessed do u mean medically recessed? As in having sleep apnea and issues with breathing etc?

 

[court monarch777]

why would the PSL increase be cope?

 

[CristianT]

Very rarely see results that are a 1.5 or more increase, the only way it could ascend you is if you’re 6ft up, good colouring, good brows, all your hair, compact midface and not balding

litterally all it does is give you a normie jaw

I’m starting to think if your recessed there is no hope to ascend past 5psl

If someone can prove me wrong that would be good but I just don’t see it as a option to ascend

if your in the situation where you need jaw surgery to begin with your fucked from the very start

it’s over for us recessed people

thats because in most of the cases people need more than bimax to actually ascend.

Bimax is just the base for you next surgeries.

 

[Deleted member 10615]

By recessed do u mean medically recessed? As in having sleep apnea and issues with breathing etc?

I mean a short recessed lower third not giga recessed tho like midly and yeah probably sleep apnea

also you got confused maxilla doesn’t mean shit unless it is giga recessed caved in tier lower third I mean

 

[gamma]

Jaw surgery is the surgery that ascends the most (for people who need it)
Eye surgery looks often uncanny, rhino doesn't ascend a lot the men
Hair transplant ascends a lot and it's such an easy surgery that every baldcel should do it

 

[Blackgymmax]

eye surgery is cope
jaw surgery is cope
lul nigga you say everything is cope

 

[Deleted member 10615]

why would the PSL increase be cope?

It would do next to nothing for smv, you might change a lot but you’ll go from incel lower third to normie lower third

 

[Blackgymmax]

thats because in most of the cases people need more than bimax to actually ascend.

Bimax is just the base for you next surgeries.

no, getting a monobloc or a forehead implant should be the base of your surgeries because bimax is limited by your upper third forward growth

 

[Deleted member 10615]

eye surgery is cope
jaw surgery is cope
lul nigga you say everything is cope

Eye area is a meme

and jaw surgery is a cope you’ll go from incel jaw to normie jaw, it will do little to nothing for smv unless your surgery goes amazing and your other features are good, height, hair, nose, midface etc

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I mean a short recessed lower third not giga recessed tho like midly and yeah probably sleep apnea

also you got confused maxilla doesn’t mean shit unless it is giga recessed caved in tier lower third I mean

Bimax can ascend u quite hard if that's actually what u need. That along with implants and u shd have an above average Lower third for sure regardless of ur starting point

 

[gamma]

It would do next to nothing for smv, you might change a lot but you’ll go from incel lower third to normie lower third

Incel lower third means being incel (0 pussy) while normie lower third without other big failos means that it's possible to find a gf with some effort

 

[Deleted member 10615]

no, getting a monobloc or a forehead implant should be the base of your surgeries because bimax is limited by your upper third forward growth

Forward forehead is a bad trait

I have it and it looks low 1q

It makes your eyes look caved in

 

[Deleted member 13928]

Very rarely see results that are a 1.5 or more increase, the only way it could ascend you is if you’re 6ft up, good colouring, good brows, all your hair, compact midface and not balding

litterally all it does is give you a normie jaw

I’m starting to think if your recessed there is no hope to ascend past 5psl

If someone can prove me wrong that would be good but I just don’t see it as a option to ascend

if your in the situation where you need jaw surgery to begin with your fucked from the very start

it’s over for us recessed people

Enter sallufraudon -

 

[Blackgymmax]

Forward forehead is a bad trait

I have it and it looks low 1q

It makes your eyes look caved inView attachment 1226036

no, its good. in your case you have fucked up ratios + balding that makes you look bad even though you technically have good bones and eye area. In your case you actually may need less bones to look good lmao

 

[Deleted member 10615]

Incel lower third means being incel (0 pussy) while normie lower third without other big failos means that it's possible to find a gf with some effort

Oh it’s never over, but your from itsly and I remeber hearing that hypergemy is the worst there

where I live it would be enough but for euro users it might be more tricky

 

[Blackgymmax]

Enter sallufraudon -
View attachment 1226037

not jaw surgery.

 

[Deleted member 13928]

not jaw surgery.

It’s pretty clear the guy had a wraparound jaw implant

 

[Deleted member 10615]

no, its good. in your case you have fucked up ratios + balding that makes you look bad even though you technically have good bones and eye area

I’m not balding i just have a fucked hairline naturally, also what ratio ipd or nose length my midface is 0.95 so longish

 

[Blackgymmax]

It’s pretty clear the guy had a wraparound jaw implant

no lmao, he actually had chin fillers which dissolved and went back to normal (and the pic is lense distorted). He wasnt always fat, but he has pics from before he got fat and he had the same brick jaw just like that.
Literally nobody has ascended from whatever salludon did even with the absolute best surgeons at hand lul

 

[Deleted member 10615]

no lmao, he actually had chin fillers which dissolved and went back to normal (and the pic is lense distorted). He wasnt always fat, but he has pics from before he got fat and he had the same brick jaw just like that.
Literally nobody has ascended from whatever salludon did even with the absolute best surgeons at hand lul

Wait didn’t salldon mew?

 

[Deleted member 13094]

you don't the struggles cuz you have a chad jaw

 

[Blackgymmax]

you don't the struggles cuz you have a chad jaw View attachment 1226038

yh but he looks like minecraft steeve

 

[Deleted member 13928]

no lmao, he actually had chin fillers which dissolved and went back to normal (and the pic is lense distorted). He wasnt always fat, but he has pics from before he got fat and he had the same brick jaw just like that.
Literally nobody has ascended from whatever salludon did even with the absolute best surgeons at hand lul

What a joke!, how much will you cope with Salludon?, here, take another example -

 

[Blackgymmax]

What a joke!, how much will you cope with Salludon?, here, take another example -
View attachment 1226039
View attachment 1226042View attachment 1226041

yes, toni had an implant, however he mega photoshops all of his pictures u retard. Have u seen him in videos w people. Mafud looks like this in that unedited pic u fool. but it is an improvement. I swear the new guys on here literally think a wrap around jaw implant is what turns everyone into chad when youll end up looking like minecraft steeve or disappointed that you dont have 1/10th the results as a true chad IF it isnt required for your case or isnt your main failo

 

[Deleted member 10615]

you don't the struggles cuz you have a chad jaw View attachment 1226038

My jaw is recessed it’s just wide and wide chin

I litterally have breathing problems

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Jaw surgery is the surgery that ascends the most (for people who need it)
Eye surgery looks often uncanny, rhino doesn't ascend a lot the men
Hair transplant ascends a lot and it's such an easy surgery that every baldcel should do it

what about jaw implants

 

[Deleted member 13094]

My jaw is recessed it’s just wide and wide chin

I litterally have breathing problems

LOL

 

[gamma]

what about jaw implants

Good on theory but I saw a lot of botched results

 

[Deleted member 2729]

Good on theory but I saw a lot of botched results

Shouldn't be a problem with an experienced surgeon right

 

[Deleted member 13928]

yes, toni had an implant, however he mega photoshops all of his pictures u retard. Have u seen him in videos w people. Mafud looks like this in that unedited pic u fool. but it is an improvement

Take this video and stop the cope -



Here’s another -



Here’s another guy who benefited from jaw surgery -

 

[Deleted member 13094]

imagine having breathing problems because your jaw is so recessed

 

[Deleted member 10615]

imagine having breathing problems because your jaw is so recessed

That’s me

I can’t mew and chin ticking at the same time coz then my airway is blocked

 

[Deleted member 13928]

Very rarely see results that are a 1.5 or more increase, the only way it could ascend you is if you’re 6ft up, good colouring, good brows, all your hair, compact midface and not balding

litterally all it does is give you a normie jaw

I’m starting to think if your recessed there is no hope to ascend past 5psl

If someone can prove me wrong that would be good but I just don’t see it as a option to ascend

if your in the situation where you need jaw surgery to begin with your fucked from the very start

it’s over for us recessed people

 

[joseph]

no, getting a monobloc or a forehead implant should be the base of your surgeries because bimax is limited by your upper third forward growth

true but sadly monobloc isn't offered for aesthetic purposes.

 

[Deleted member 10615]

true but sadly monobloc isn't offered for aesthetic purposes.

Why does forward forehead mattter so much?

 

[joseph]

Why does forward forehead mattter so much?

for upper and lower maxilla positioning, the more forward your forehead/eyes are during development, the more space is allowed for the maxilla/mandible to come forward, check out @thecel posts called 'brachy skull is death trait" and there's another one too called "skull>maxilla" (something like that)

 

[Deleted member 10615]

for upper and lower maxilla positioning, the more forward your forehead/eyes are during development, the more space is allowed for the maxilla/mandible to come forward, check out @thecel posts called 'brachy skull is death trait" and there's another one too called "skull>maxilla" (something like that)

That’s really interesting

I am a brachy but my forehead is far enough to cast a shadow over my eyes

 

[Blackgymmax]

Take this video and stop the cope -



Here’s another -



Here’s another guy who benefited from jaw surgery -

View attachment 1226049

sub 90 IQ ngl
dumb ass 3rd world pakis

 

[joseph]

View attachment 1226051

puberty not surgery

 

[joseph]

yes, toni had an implant, however he mega photoshops all of his pictures u retard. Have u seen him in videos w people. Mafud looks like this in that unedited pic u fool. but it is an improvement. I swear the new guys on here literally think a wrap around jaw implant is what turns everyone into chad when youll end up looking like minecraft steeve or disappointed that you dont have 1/10th the results as a true chad IF it isnt required for your case or isnt your main failo

didnt he get fillers not implant?

 

[joseph]

Forward forehead is a bad trait

I have it and it looks low 1q

It makes your eyes look caved inView attachment 1226036

post side

 

[Blackgymmax]

didnt he get fillers not implant?

has to be implant cuz his gonion angle is lower, unless it was just so caved in before that it just appeared to be higher from the front

 

[joseph]

Eye area is a meme

and jaw surgery is a cope you’ll go from incel jaw to normie jaw, it will do little to nothing for smv unless your surgery goes amazing and your other features are good, height, hair, nose, midface etc

"eye area is a meme" jfl it literally determines your looks ceiling eye spacing shaping and coloring can make or break your face eyes are the live part of the face

 

[joseph]

has to be implant cuz his gonion angle is lower, unless it was just so caved in before that it just appeared to be higher from the front

fair enough was just going off what I heard about him. you getting any other procedures?

 

[Deleted member 13928]

sub 90 IQ ngl
dumb ass 3rd world pakis

Over for you rotter with chimp IQ if you didn’t see this -

 

[Blackgymmax]

fair enough was just going off what I heard about him. you getting any other procedures?

chin filler, jaw implant and lower eyelid spacer graft for like december and then im done for the next few yrs