Jaw Surgery w/ Dr. Ort (former Eppley/Yaremchuk patient)

[Gigachang]

3 rhinos huh? were they botching you or did it just not end up satisfactory every time? i heard rhinos usually leave people unhappy

 

[arbiter891]

Pre-op pics for original rhinoplasty - age 28.

damn bro they scammed you on the rhino and chin implant. if you went straight for double jaw you'd been set.

 

[arbiter891]

3 rhinos huh? were they botching you or did it just not end up satisfactory every time? i heard rhinos usually leave people unhappy

his nose was never the issue

 

[arbiter891]

ngl bro looking at all ur before and afters it's crazy u still basically look like the same person lol

 

[LEFORT17]

I had a pretty active thread here four years ago about some Eppley infraorbital implants: https://looksmax.org/threads/removing-eppley-cheek-implants.378955/.

Since then, I've had bimax with Sam Bobek for sleep apnea, which had a great functional outcome but a bad aesthetic one. (Not really his fault; he had to take out a Yaremchuk jaw implant from 2016, which caused a lot of neck jowling/sagging.)

Here's my full surgery rundown:

• 2011 - rhinoplasty and chin implant - Wayne Larrabee
• 2012 - hair transplant - Robert Niedbalski
• 2013 - revision rhinoplasty - Wayne Larrabee
• 2015 - hair transplant - H. Rahal
• 2016 - custom wraparound jaw implant - Michael Yaremchuk
• 2020 - custom infraorbital implants - Barry Eppley (tried to do a replacement jaw implant, but couldn't remove Yaremchuk implant due to bone overgrowth)
• 2021 - lid retraction repair/canthoplasty/ptosis repair - A.J. Amadi (mainly to correct lower lid retraction on right side caused by lower eyelid incisions to place infraorbitals)
• 2022 - revision to size down infraorbitals via hand-carving and re-placing - Barry Eppley
• 2024 - bimax + genio for sleep apnea -Sam Bobek (including removal of Yaremchuk jaw implant)
• 2024 - additional attempt at lower lid retraction repair on right side (removal of Eppley infraorbital on right side and replacement with hand-carved ePTFE implant to provide structural support for lower lid)
• 2025 - revision rhinoplasty - Aaron Kosins
• 2025 - reduction genioplasty, jaw shaving, custom jaw angle implants, neck lift - Yirae Ort

I'm 43. Ask constructive questions and I'll give constructive answers. Before and after pics are below; I'm only 14 days PO with Ort, so there's some swelling, especially on the jawline.

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you look like ur in your early 20s damn

 

[weepmeep]

goat

 

[Hide]

he needs to fix his upper eyelid exposure, but that's risky. I get why he'd be averse to targeting it, after he had to get multiple reconstruction surgeries for the lower lids.

Fat grafting isnt thay risky tbh

 

[Corleone]

Fat grafting isnt thay risky tbh

true, but also not that effective if you want to be lean

 

[UMIRINBRAH?]

I had a pretty active thread here four years ago about some Eppley infraorbital implants: https://looksmax.org/threads/removing-eppley-cheek-implants.378955/.

Since then, I've had bimax with Sam Bobek for sleep apnea, which had a great functional outcome but a bad aesthetic one. (Not really his fault; he had to take out a Yaremchuk jaw implant from 2016, which caused a lot of neck jowling/sagging.)

Here's my full surgery rundown:

• 2011 - rhinoplasty and chin implant - Wayne Larrabee
• 2012 - hair transplant - Robert Niedbalski
• 2013 - revision rhinoplasty - Wayne Larrabee
• 2015 - hair transplant - H. Rahal
• 2016 - custom wraparound jaw implant - Michael Yaremchuk
• 2020 - custom infraorbital implants - Barry Eppley (tried to do a replacement jaw implant, but couldn't remove Yaremchuk implant due to bone overgrowth)
• 2021 - lid retraction repair/canthoplasty/ptosis repair - A.J. Amadi (mainly to correct lower lid retraction on right side caused by lower eyelid incisions to place infraorbitals)
• 2022 - revision to size down infraorbitals via hand-carving and re-placing - Barry Eppley
• 2024 - bimax + genio for sleep apnea -Sam Bobek (including removal of Yaremchuk jaw implant)
• 2024 - additional attempt at lower lid retraction repair on right side (removal of Eppley infraorbital on right side and replacement with hand-carved ePTFE implant to provide structural support for lower lid)
• 2025 - revision rhinoplasty - Aaron Kosins
• 2025 - reduction genioplasty, jaw shaving, custom jaw angle implants, neck lift - Yirae Ort

I'm 43. Ask constructive questions and I'll give constructive answers. Before and after pics are below; I'm only 14 days PO with Ort, so there's some swelling, especially on the jawline.

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nn

 

[Hide]

true, but also not that effective if you want to be lean

Supras too are very safe tbh

 

[Legit Theory]

do you have any advice on how to learn your facial flaws in order to devise a proper surgical plan? its so overwhelming

additionally you mentioned being on steroids before, yet at 43 you look very young, what is your anti aging skin care routine?

 

[Win200]

3 rhinos huh? were they botching you or did it just not end up satisfactory every time? i heard rhinos usually leave people unhappy

Never botched. Just kept settling with a deviation in the columella, so I waited several years and had Aaron Kosins rebuild it with rib cartilage. Not uncommon to have a nose that wants to heal with a pull to one side or the other.

 

[Win200]

ngl bro looking at all ur before and afters it's crazy u still basically look like the same person lol

That's the goal... you want to be a better looking version of yourself. I don't want to transform into another person. Unhealthy af to do that (or want it)

 

[Win200]

damn bro they scammed you on the rhino and chin implant. if you went straight for double jaw you'd been set.

The original nose was fucking horrible lol and would've needed to be redone no matter what. Chin implant was reasonable without knowing about the narrow airway issue (which I didn't back in 2011)

 

[Win200]

do you have any advice on how to learn your facial flaws in order to devise a proper surgical plan? its so overwhelming

additionally you mentioned being on steroids before, yet at 43 you look very young, what is your anti aging skin care routine?

Look for areas of asymmetry or lack of harmony--like a crooked nose, or a receded chin. I really wouldn't go down the obsessive route of measuring millimeters and chasing some "ideal" ratio like a lot of people here do. Figure out what bothers YOU and what YOU want to look like, then decide how invasive you're willing to go to correct it. I personally think that getting bimax for purely aesthetic reasons is really insane, but some people decide that the risk/unpredictability and process are worth it. Some procedures are a lot more reliable and consistent than others.

My advice for doing steroids is to do the lowest possible dose of test that gets you a nice body and stop there. Don't do tren, dbol, etc.--all of those compounds have a much higher risk profile, jack up your skin, wreak havoc on your hair, etc. Test doesn't age you nearly as much, has a lower side effect profile, and is all you need unless you're a pro bodybuilder. I still had nice skin on cycle because I was only running 500mg test/week. Don't get greedy.

On skincare, it's not super sophisticated. Use a good retinol a few times a week, moisturize, and use an SPF every morning. I started Botox at 27 and stayed consistent, and that helped prevent wrinkles. I still don't have any resting wrinkles at 43.