Lefort 2 Worthiness

[NuclearGeo20]

Do ya'll think it's worth doing a lefort 2 if you're not severly recessed. Instead of trying to fix a falio, you would be trying to create a halo. Does it matter that much if you're not severly recessed? At what point is a lefort 2 a good operation to perform?

Close to ideal forward growth- Henry Cavill; Halo
Average forward- Alain Delon Or David Gandy; Doesn't halo nor falio
Pretty Recessed- Robert Pattinson; Falio
Death Tier Recession- Indian man; Facial Harmony Destroyer

Btw I'm talking about forward growth of the upper maxilla.

 

[NuclearGeo20]

@flatcheck213 Thoughts?

 

[Saint Casanova]

I’ve not seen any results from people who aren’t recessed. Have you seen any ? Which surgeons would even perform this on non severely recessed patients barring some third world unethical surgeon?

 

[FRAMEMAX CHAD]

dont listen to the pessimists, its worth it

 

[flatcheck213]

@flatcheck213 Thoughts?

Personally, I don't think you can create a halo this way

Which surgeons would even perform this on non severely recessed patients barring some third world unethical surgeon?

Exactly

 

[flatcheck213]

Btw I'm talking about forward growth of the upper maxilla.

At this point, infraorbital implants would be more beneficial

 

[courtcase75]

Honestly, I don't see any ethical surgeon that's actually worth paying performing something like this on people who aren't severely recessed, and it's crazy how dudes here speak about these surgeries like they're Botox injections

 

[NuclearGeo20]

I’ve not seen any results from people who aren’t recessed. Have you seen any ? Which surgeons would even perform this on non severely recessed patients barring some third world unethical surgeon?

giant. But it's all going to depend on Clavicula's result with Dr. Celal, if he ends up getting a 2 instead of trimax

 

[NuclearGeo20]

dont listen to the pessimists, its worth it

Canj you explain?

 

[Saint Casanova]

giant. But it's all going to depend on Clavicula's result with Dr. Celal, if he ends up getting a 2 instead of trimax

Is that schizo actually getting it done ? Have we gone mad or something ?

 

[FRAMEMAX CHAD]

Canj you explain?

u gotta ascend whatever it takes nigga thats all i have to say. if lefort 2 would ascend then fucking get it done if u can. aim high not low

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Personally, I don't think you can create a halo this way

Exactly

Surgeons are going to think more about it if Clavs result is good.

You could create more forward growth in the upper maxilla, which makes the eyes deeper set, but is a lf 2 really worth it for that, y'know?

 

[NuclearGeo20]

At this point, infraorbital implants would be more beneficial

Problem is that it wouldn't address the forward growth of the paranasal region

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Honestly, I don't see any ethical surgeon that's actually worth paying performing something like this on people who aren't severely recessed, and it's crazy how dudes here speak about these surgeries like they're Botox injections

Giant/Celal would. Even if you're not severly recessed, I could see someone like Robert Pattinson increasing his appeal through it, which is creating a halo

 

[flatcheck213]

Surgeons are going to think more about it if Clavs result is good.

He will do nothing

You could create more forward growth in the upper maxilla, which makes the eyes deeper set, but is a lf 2 really worth it for that, y'know?

Only monobloc can change the eye setness

Problem is that it wouldn't address the forward growth of the paranasal region

Then it's a whole different question

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Is that schizo actually getting it done ? Have we gone mad or something ?

Idk if he's getting 2 or trimax.

 

[NuclearGeo20]

u gotta ascend whatever it takes nigga thats all i have to say. if lefort 2 would ascend then fucking get it done if u can. aim high not low

Yes but it's a very complicated surgery if you're not recessed somewhat.

 

[flatcheck213]

Idk if he's getting 2 or trimax.

Look at the dates, he would already had it done

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Look at the dates, he would already had it done

I think he said he is going to blog his experience so we'll have to see. I think it'll be soon though, he talked about a couple days ago on stream i think

 

[flatcheck213]

I think he said he is going to blog his experience so we'll have to see. I think it'll be soon though, he talked about a couple days ago on stream i think

How his results will help you with problem described in the thread tho?

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Only monobloc can change the eye setness

LF2 would give appearance of more protection around the eyes, due to the nose being more projected. This leads to a "deeper set" appearance

 

[NuclearGeo20]

How his results will help you with problem described in the thread tho?

If the LF2 is successful and it comes out top tier, this will cause surgeons around the world to rethink orthognathic surgery as a whole I think. Usually a lefort 2 is performed on a person, like the indian man, with severe midfacial retrusion. Lefort 2 is optimal for aesthetics.

The problem with trimax, is that if you move the lower maxilla forward, and leave the upper maxilla, you get dogmaxxed. That's why surgeons that are smart don't perform big movements on the lefort 1. Lefort 2 addresses the problem completely by moving the maxilla as a whole.

 

[NuclearGeo20]

How his results will help you with problem described in the thread tho?

Sorry didn't answer the question completly.

I'm debating whether I should do a lf2 or stick with normal trimax. But I don't know if lf2 is worth it, with the level of recession that I have. My recession is moderate, not death tier.

 

[flatcheck213]

Sorry didn't answer the question completly.

I'm debating whether I should do a lf2 or stick with normal trimax. But I don't know if lf2 is worth it, with the level of recession that I have. My recession is moderate, not death tier.

Ask Pagnoni if he can perform it on you

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Ask Pagnoni if he can perform it on you

Wanna pm?

 

[courtcase75]

Giant/Celal would. Even if you're not severly recessed, I could see someone like Robert Pattinson increasing his appeal through it, which is creating a halo

I've seen and heard enough terrible stuff about Celal to know that he's a snake oil salesman, he isn't ethical at all.

 

[NuclearGeo20]

I've seen and heard enough terrible stuff about Celal to know that he's a snake oil salesman, he isn't ethical at all.

Pagnoni is the goat from what I've heard so far

 

[Snicket]

Look at the dates, he would already had it done

Yes, I recall another user saying that Clavicular had opted for trimax and implants instead.

 

[Snicket]

Do ya'll think it's worth doing a lefort 2 if you're not severly recessed. Instead of trying to fix a falio, you would be trying to create a halo. Does it matter that much if you're not severly recessed? At what point is a lefort 2 a good operation to perform?

Close to ideal forward growth- Henry Cavill; Halo
Average forward- Alain Delon Or David Gandy; Doesn't halo nor falio
Pretty Recessed- Robert Pattinson; Falio
Death Tier Recession- Indian man; Facial Harmony Destroyer

Btw I'm talking about forward growth of the upper maxilla.

The Indian guy had what’s known as the Kufner cut or Quadrangular LeFort 2.

As you can see, his midface is still unsatisfactory.