Let’s try to get some clarity on this: do you need to budget for the possibility of a face lift soon after getting infras?

[Acquiescence]

If so holy over, I can’t address my eye area until 2029

I’ll probably clean up w genio, lip lift, and HT in the meantime though. Relatively quick and cheap. Maybe rhino and jaw angles too but one step at a time

 

[Nahorscend]

If you mean because of the midface sag risk then that is only associated with intraoral placement. Have it placed via transconjunctival incision instead, which is superior anyway and is what most oculofacial surgeons will do.

Typically intraoral placement is done by maxillofacial surgeons, so for example if you were doing it alongside bimax you would have to accept the sag risk. If you aren't tied down to a maxillofacial surgery you can do it via eyelid with someone else.

 

[Acquiescence]

If you mean because of the midface sag risk then that is only associated with intraoral placement. Have it placed via transconjunctival incision instead, which is superior anyway and is what most oculofacial surgeons will do.

Typically intraoral placement is done by maxillofacial surgeons, so for example if you were doing it alongside bimax you would have to accept the sag risk. If you aren't tied down to a maxillofacial surgery you can do it via eyelid with someone else.

It would be with Ram who iirc does indeed do intraoral placement, so hmm might just have to get the genio w him then go somewhere else for the infras

 

[Legend08]

If so holy over, I can’t address my eye area until 2029

I’ll probably clean up w genio, lip lift, and HT in the meantime though. Relatively quick and cheap. Maybe rhino and jaw angles too but one step at a time

I feel you i need to do my surgerys one step at a time like you because of money but that problem will be fixed soon i just got a job the main reason is for no one to notice the changes

 

[Acquiescence]

I feel you i need to do my surgerys one step at a time like you because of money but that problem will be fixed soon i just got a job the main reason is for no one to notice the changes

Yeah for me it’s money obv but also the fact that taking more than like a week off at a time (spaced out a year apart each time) would be career suicide

 

[Legend08]

taking more than like a week off at a time (spaced out a year apart each time) would be career suicide

It depends the best time to hardmaxx is in the summer so you can larp that your going to a vacation

 

[Nahorscend]

It would be with Ram who iirc does indeed do intraoral placement, so hmm might just have to get the genio w him then go somewhere else for the infras

Yes or just take the chance, he will probably tell you midface sag is possible but not common. And his designs aren't aggressive so all in all it is probably not so likely unless you are old.

But there are independent reasons to do eyelid incision - if you want to maximise the design possibility and placement precision.

 

[Acquiescence]

Yes or just take the chance, he will probably tell you midface sag is possible but not common. And his designs aren't aggressive so all in all it is probably not so likely unless you are old.

I’m 24 so hopefully not too unc yet

Either way tho ig there’s another year of wageslaving baked in before having another window for surgery so even if I didn’t quite have enough for immediate revision I’d have time to save up more

But there are independent reasons to do eyelid incision - if you want to maximise the design possibility and placement precision.

Just how much of an aesthetic difference are we talking between eyelid v intraoral?

 

[ReccesedSlavic]

If so holy over, I can’t address my eye area until 2029

I’ll probably clean up w genio, lip lift, and HT in the meantime though. Relatively quick and cheap. Maybe rhino and jaw angles too but one step at a time

Are you deformed ?

 

[Acquiescence]

Are you deformed ?

In the eyes of women yes

 

[Cat.]

If so holy over, I can’t address my eye area until 2029

I’ll probably clean up w genio, lip lift, and HT in the meantime though. Relatively quick and cheap. Maybe rhino and jaw angles too but one step at a time

Lip lift can look weird on males so be wary of it

 

[Acquiescence]

Lip lift can look weird on males so be wary of it

Trust me I need it my lips are cooked

 

[Cat.]

Trust me I need it my lips are cooked

Could you send me a picture in private? I wanna see if ur philtrum is that bad I might also suggest some other work if you want to ofc

 

[Acquiescence]

Could you send me a picture in private? I wanna see if ur philtrum is that bad I might also suggest some other work if you want to ofc

Here you go:

 

[Cat.]

Here you go:
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Not to sound insulting but is this actually you ?

 

[Acquiescence]

Not to sound insulting but is this actually you ?

Yes my brother

 

[Cat.]

Here you go:
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Very close set eyes not gonna suggest obo tho but Rhino def, lip lift with a possible genio and you gotta do something about that submental region

 

[Jgns]

Not to sound insulting but is this actually you ?

damn

 

[Acquiescence]

Very close set eyes not gonna suggest obo tho

Yup but unfortunately the only person offering cosmetic non-syndromic obo is giant, but we all know how that’s going:
https://looksmax.org/threads/addressing-the-problem-with-giant-implants.1861419/

Realistically it’s not gonna happen

Rhino def

Mind elabing on what exactly a rhino would need to accomplish? I’ve had it reccd multiple times but I honestly thought it really wasn’t a big failo of mine idk?

lip lift with a possible genio and you gotta do something about that submental region

Lip lift is definitely on the docket as mentioned

As for genio and the submental, currently waiting for a follow up consult w Ram this June. Initially consulted with him last May and he suggested infras + genio. I’ll be requesting in particular:
- Genio: advancement, downgrafting, widening, mentolabial fold smoothing, and genioglossus advancement
- Infras: saddled + cheekbone augmentation

 

[Cat.]

Yup but unfortunately the only person offering cosmetic non-syndromic obo is giant, but we all know how that’s going:
https://looksmax.org/threads/addressing-the-problem-with-giant-implants.1861419/

Realistically it’s not gonna happen


Mind elabing on what exactly a rhino would need to accomplish? I’ve had it reccd multiple times but I honestly thought it really wasn’t a big failo of mine idk?


Lip lift is definitely on the docket as mentioned

As for genio and the submental, currently waiting for a follow up consult w Ram this June. Initially consulted with him last May and he suggested infras + genio. I’ll be requesting in particular:
- Genio: advancement, downgrafting, widening, mentolabial fold smoothing, and genioglossus advancement
- Infras: saddled + cheekbone augmentation

If you are actually going through with the surgery planning its a pretty good plan. For the Rhino tho its more of the nose projection looks also overprojected and the nasal tip is bulbous and also the alar base is wide which can look ''Pigish'' on some people

 

[Cat.]

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vs

you kinda see what im getting at hopefully

 

[Acquiescence]

If you are actually going through with the surgery planning it’s a pretty good plan. For the Rhino tho its more of the nose projection looks also overprojected and the nasal tip is bulbous and also the alar base is wide which can look ''Pigish'' on some people

Fortunately Ram works with a partner surgeon who does Rhinos and lip lifts (Dr Marianetti I believe) so I’ll probably come back next year for that work after this years round of procedures

 

[Cat.]

Fortunately Ram works with a partner surgeon who does Rhinos and lip lifts (Dr Marianetti I believe) so I’ll probably come back next year for that work after this years round of procedures

I am quite nitpicking here but I saw a lot of positive reinforcement after my own tip rhino and I had a somewhat similliar nose shape to you.

 

[Acquiescence]

damn

Now imagine how women feel if even org users say this shit JFL

It’s over, unlike Clav I AM a jester for your amusement

 

[Jgns]

defying expectations

Now imagine how women feel if even org users say this shit JFL
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It’s over, unlike Clav I AM a jester for your amusement

 

[kaydd]

Here you go:
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Do you plan on addressing the zygo/ lateral orbital rim in any other way? Would botox help in any way?

 

[Acquiescence]

Do you plan on addressing the zygo/ lateral orbital rim in any other way? Would botox help in any way?

Bilateral zygoma shaving would probably be the only legit semi-fix besides bonafide obo

 

[kaydd]

Bilateral zygoma shaving would probably be the only legit semi-fix besides bonafide obo

Same boat as you man. You mind if i pm u?

 

[Acquiescence]

Same boat as you man. You mind if i pm u?

Go for it