Lighter skin = signal of being stronger and more masculine- Darker skin = weaker and more feminine

[st.hamudi but 6‘5]

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That's a huge cope btw. Mongols have nothing to do with europeans genetically, while modern europeans have significant mongol dna left from the mongol empire.

it’s honestly insane im astonished by their cope

 

[Deleted member 45118]

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That's a huge cope btw. Mongols have nothing to do with europeans genetically, while modern europeans have significant mongol dna left from the mongol empire.

You have 0 clue what your talking about. Why are you showing me an mtDNA chart? Why are you showing me an admixture chart that PROVES ME RIGHT:

Mongols have european admix:

Europeans have little to none mongol admix:

Thank you for proving me right, in the end. This discussion is over.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

it’s honestly insane im astonished by their cope

Read this reply. He literally proved me right.

You have 0 clue what your talking about. Why are you showing me an mtDNA chart? Why are you showing me an admixture chart that PROVES ME RIGHT:

Mongols have european admix:
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Europeans have little to none mongol admix:

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Thank you for proving me right, in the end. This discussion is over.

 

[STAMPEDE]

yamnyas raped nordics btw (they are lightbrown warrior race)

meds had greater civilizations (they are lightbrown)

women love lightbrown men
tall dark and handsome in modern times

but hey keep coping if that is gonna let u sleep better (cumskin is ideal)

True, yamnya, aka the ancestors of all modern europeans massacred and raped light skin europeans and conquered them, yamnya aka indo europeans were the most violent and successful warriors of all of history and today all indo european languages and cultures come from them, and these guys were dark brown skin moggers.

 

[STAMPEDE]

You have 0 clue what your talking about. Why are you showing me an mtDNA chart? Why are you showing me an admixture chart that PROVES ME RIGHT:

Mongols have european admix:
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Europeans have little to none mongol admix:

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Thank you for proving me right, in the end. This discussion is over.

 

[STAMPEDE]

You have 0 clue what your talking about. Why are you showing me an mtDNA chart? Why are you showing me an admixture chart that PROVES ME RIGHT:

Mongols have european admix:
View attachment 2508572

Europeans have little to none mongol admix:

View attachment 2508568

Thank you for proving me right, in the end. This discussion is over.

You are just coping, you're showing siberian russian assimilated populations, europeans never fought a war against mongols, mongols invaded eastern europe and conquered them. eastern europeans have mongol dna, not a single true mongol has any european dna

 

[standardcel]

People also praise Genghis Khan for being an undefeated military genius. So I don’t see why you would accept one is good and the other one isn’t?

The generals of ghenghis khan were doing all the work and they weren't fighting on the frontline. Genghis khan was hiding in his tent

 

[Deleted member 45118]

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Do you know what anything on this map even means? Quote from the source of this graphic:

The Mongol Gene - DNA Consultants

Mongols were probably the source of its spread in small amounts to Europe (0.5%), where it is scattered in small amounts, notably through Poland.

dnaconsultants.com

"Mongols were probably the source of its spread in small amounts to Europe (0.5%), where it is scattered in small amounts, notably through Poland. Twenty percent of the inhabitants in the present-day Mongolian capital of Ulaanbaatar still carry it."

This is literally ONE (1) gene only carried by half of a percent of europeans

You posted charts that proved me right (because you cant read them) and this one (which you also cant read) who's source proves me right again.

Reminder:

 

[Deleted member 45118]

You are just coping, you're showing siberian russian assimilated populations, europeans never fought a war against mongols, mongols invaded eastern europe and conquered them. eastern europeans have mongol dna, not a single true mongol has any european dna

Then explain why mongols had european Ydna throughout all of history:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867420313210

 

[Gengar]

The generals of ghenghis khan were doing all the work and they weren't fighting on the frontline. Genghis khan was hiding in his tent

LOL. That is not true.

 

[st.hamudi but 6‘5]

I agree, but westerners will try to downplay him for bringing down two superpowers and claim “They were just tired, brah! It was easy to do that!” At least he was a just man. Based.

i just say outnumbered in practically every battle and still undefeated

died in the bed

 

[STAMPEDE]

You have 0 clue what your talking about. Why are you showing me an mtDNA chart? Why are you showing me an admixture chart that PROVES ME RIGHT:

Mongols have european admix:
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Europeans have little to none mongol admix:

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Thank you for proving me right, in the end. This discussion is over.

Hahhahahahha, keep coping more you fucking cuck. And even that 10% is from russian siberian populations, unlike mongols who left their dna in europe through invasions and mongol empire.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

LOL. That is not true.

While im debating a moron who posts charts he cant read and is completely wrong, youre having a peaceful discussion on history with some other guy. Mirin

 

[st.hamudi but 6‘5]

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True, yamnya, aka the ancestors of all modern europeans massacred and raped light skin europeans and conquered them, yamnya aka indo europeans were the most violent and successful warriors of all of history and today all indo european languages and cultures come from them, and these guys were dark brown skin moggers.

literally my direct ancestors right @TRUE_CEL and not the rape way

 

[Deleted member 45118]

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Hahhahahahha, keep coping more you fucking cuck. And even that 10% is from russian siberian populations, unlike mongols who left their dna in europe through invasions and mongol empire.

This already got debunked here, youre behind with the times:

Read the study you god damn fucktard illiterate piece of shit. 12% is the maximum observed in northern europe.

"while some northern European populations contain as much as 12% Mongolian ancestry"

And later on they admit its pretty much only the finns that share this "mongol ancestry". But its not even mongol ancestry, since they do not share mongoloid ancestry with them, but the european one, from when indo iranians raped mongols beforehand. When you remove the shared european component they dont share anything.

"Of the populations included in our study, Mongolians share the second-highest level of IBD with the Finnish people (FIN), behind only CHB. While Mongolians share more IBD with Europeans (EUR) as a whole compared with other non-EAS people (Fig. 4b), removal of Finns from the Europeans drops the level of sharing to as low as that with South Asians (SAS) or AMR (Supplementary Fig. 12). Finns share very little IBD with the non Mongolian EAS or AMR after removal of the European component from the latter"

Also you posted this:

Which shows this:

JFL You posted it. And you cant even read it, nigga was sending random shit he found in google images, that ended up proving me right. Youre genuinely completely and utterly retarded.

 

[STAMPEDE]

This already got debunked here, youre behind with the times:



Also you posted this:



Which shows this:

JFL You posted it. And you cant even read it, nigga was sending random shit he found in google images, that ended up proving me right. Youre genuinely completely and utterly retarded.

I never denied mongols having european ancestry, it's just that modern mongols have european russian dna through assimilated siberian populations, not war. Europeans never fought against mongols, so they couldn't have left any of their dna behind. You're just coping and posting meaningless studies, which prove modern european have much more mongol dna compared to modern mongols having european dna.

Reminder:

 

[Deleted member 45118]

I never denied mongols having european ascensry, it's just that modern mongols have european russian dna through assimilated siberian populations, not war.

Which i disproved here, theyve always had european ancestry, namely one from the paternal side:

Europeans never fought against mongols, so they couldn't have left any of their dna behind.

They got it from indo iranians and scythians fucking mongol women. Youre forgetting about ancient history.

You're just coping and posting meaningless studies, which prove modern european have much more mongol dna compared to modern mongols having european dna.

You posted studies which proved MONGOLS have european dna, not the opposite.

N1c1 is not mongolian. Retard

mtDNA. Maternal. They got it from the female side. This means its from a mongol woman, not man. Europeans mustve gotten mongol pussy in their own continent throughout the years.

Debunked here:

Read the study you god damn fucktard illiterate piece of shit. 12% is the maximum observed in northern europe.

"while some northern European populations contain as much as 12% Mongolian ancestry"

And later on they admit its pretty much only the finns that share this "mongol ancestry". But its not even mongol ancestry, since they do not share mongoloid ancestry with them, but the european one, from when indo iranians raped mongols beforehand. When you remove the shared european component they dont share anything.

"Of the populations included in our study, Mongolians share the second-highest level of IBD with the Finnish people (FIN), behind only CHB. While Mongolians share more IBD with Europeans (EUR) as a whole compared with other non-EAS people (Fig. 4b), removal of Finns from the Europeans drops the level of sharing to as low as that with South Asians (SAS) or AMR (Supplementary Fig. 12). Finns share very little IBD with the non Mongolian EAS or AMR after removal of the European component from the latter"

Mitochondrial is from the mothers side, again, you fucking dumbfuck. This says that european men fucked mongol women.

 

[Debetro]

@URL code is there any point on continuing this?

they are obviously brown NEET trolls who got nothing better to do than writing their poo supremacy fantasies from their thirld world slums while using technology created by white men

they literally provided zero sources neither know how to provide them

meanwhile you did it in every single post and they disproved nothing

I'm done with this for now unless the parrots learn something else to post


what it's clear is the amount of unhealthy envy and hate for white people they have, which is understandable, just imagine being born that way and needing to stay that way for your whole life

you can't change their minds with any amount of proof since becoming self-hating is obviously counterproductive

cruel world

 

[Deleted member 45118]

@URL code is there any point on continuing this?

they are obviously brown NEET trolls who got nothing better to do than writing their poo supremacy fantasies from their thirld world slums while using technology created by white men

they literally provided zero sources neither know how to provide them

meanwhile you did it in every single post and they disproved nothing

I'm done with this for now unless the parrots learn something else to post


what it's clear is the amount of unhealthy envy and hate for white people they have, which is understandable, just imagine being born that way and needing to stay that way for your whole life

you can't change their minds with any amount of proof since becoming self-hating is obviously counterproductive

cruel world

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Its worse, he cant even read charts or anything and posts mtdna stats as proof of mongol men raping...
I just wanna get him to shut up and realize hes wrong so i can get the last word.

 

[STAMPEDE]

@URL code is there any point on continuing this?

they are obviously brown NEET trolls who got nothing better to do than writing their poo supremacy fantasies from their thirld world slums while using technology created by white men

they literally provided zero sources neither know how to provide them

meanwhile you did it in every single post and they disproved nothing

I'm done with this for now unless the parrots learn something else to post


what it's clear is the amount of unhealthy envy and hate for white people they have, which is understandable, just imagine being born that way and needing to stay that way for your whole life

you can't change their minds with any amount of proof since becoming self-hating is obviously counterproductive

cruel world

View attachment 2508602

 

[Debetro]

I just wanna get him to shut up and realize hes wrong so i can get the last word.

There's no guarantee they will do, maybe it reached a point you are just wasting your time.

As I said they are almost surely half trolling by the way they write.

 

[st.hamudi but 6‘5]

@URL code is there any point on continuing this?

they are obviously brown NEET trolls who got nothing better to do than writing their poo supremacy fantasies from their thirld world slums while using technology created by white men

they literally provided zero sources neither know how to provide them

meanwhile you did it in every single post and they disproved nothing

I'm done with this for now unless the parrots learn something else to post


what it's clear is the amount of unhealthy envy and hate for white people they have, which is understandable, just imagine being born that way and needing to stay that way for your whole life

you can't change their minds with any amount of proof since becoming self-hating is obviously counterproductive

cruel world

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i don’t hate white people

 

[STAMPEDE]

Which i disproved here, theyve always had european ancestry, namely one from the paternal side:
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They got it from indo iranians and scythians fucking mongol women. Youre forgetting about ancient history.


You posted studies which proved MONGOLS have european dna, not the opposite.



N1c1 is not mongolian. Retard



mtDNA. Maternal. They got it from the female side. This means its from a mongol woman, not man. Europeans mustve gotten mongol pussy in their own continent throughout the years.



Debunked here:




Mitochondrial is from the mothers side, again, you fucking dumbfuck. This says that european men fucked mongol women.

indo iranians and scythians? who cares about them? Mongols as a empire didnt exist then, indo iranians only mixed with the local native population that lived there at the time. I am talking about mongol empire and not ancient mixing that happened between native populations that lived in these lands at that time. My point is that Mongols left much more dna and sperm and raped european women and conquered all of eastern europe and left their dna and sperm in europe, while europeans never managed to do anything to mongols because they were weak, in fact, they never fought against each other, mongols just conquered all of eastern europe. I am not talking about ancient times where mixing between native populations happened most of the time.

Reminder again:

 

[Deleted member 45118]

i don’t hate white people

Why cant you accept that you were wrong about mongols? You keep upvoting that retard's posts when ive proved him wrong like 20 times by now. He even proved himself wrong by posting those charts.

Just agree that there is no genetic evidence of mongols raping euros and ill take back any insults ive thrown at you. Is that okay?
No point in stubbornly denying all the proof ive shown man, cmon.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

indo iranians and scythians? who cares about them? Mongols as a empire didnt exist then, indo iranians only mixed with the local native population that lived there at the time. I am talking about mongol empire and not ancient mixing that happened between native populations that lived in these lands at that time.

But that shows that mongols already had euro dna from before... its the same people who got raped and then turned into mongols.

My point is that Mongols left much more dna and sperm and raped european women and conquered all of eastern europe and left their dna and sperm in europe

Can you agree that youre wrong about this? I proved it to be wrong so many times by now, you yourself posted that fucking chart that showed euros have no mongol DNA my guy:

And there are no mongol ydna haplogroups in europe. If mongols raped, they would have male descendants, dont you understand this? Theyre just not there, they didnt leave genetic descendants.

Reminder again:

Okay, are you acting obtuse or what? I explained what this meant already above and quoted it many times, why do you still post this?
Its only the finns who do, and its only up to 12%... and thats not from mongols raping them, but from the european DNA mongols share with whites. Its not derived from mongols, its shared. I explained this already. PLease i beg you, just admit youre wrong about this and stop saying the same shit over and over that has been addressed...

 

[st.hamudi but 6‘5]

Why cant you accept that you were wrong about mongols? You keep upvoting that retard's posts when ive proved him wrong like 20 times by now. He even proved himself wrong by posting those charts.

Just agree that there is no genetic evidence of mongols raping euros and ill take back any insults ive thrown at you. Is that okay?
No point in stubbornly denying all the proof ive shown man, cmon.

before i was on his side with the mongol thing now im neutral

i have to look it up myself to form an opinion

but that takes time that im not willing to invest because it’s not that important to me

 

[Deleted member 45118]

before i was on his side with the mongol thing now im neutral

i have to look it up myself to form an opinion

but that takes time that im not willing to invest because it’s not that important to me

You will see eventually if you care, but if you do, just research Ydna haplogroups. Thats the easiest proof.

 

[st.hamudi but 6‘5]

You will see eventually if you care, but if you do, just research Ydna haplogroups. Thats the easiest proof.

so you are saying that huns mongols and dschingis khan were raping europeans isn’t true that’s a completely new information for me tbh

 

[Deleted member 45118]

so you are saying that huns mongols and dschingis khan were raping europeans isn’t true that’s a completely new information for me tbh

There are no genetic descendants. Ydna is the direct paternal line, thats how you see if one population raped another. There are no mongol paternal lines in europe.

The only way is if literally all mongol descendants died out. Then the rape wouldve happened, but its not in the genes of europeans anymore. But its highly unlikely this would happen, and it would still mean euros have no mongol genes nowadays.

 

[Boxingfan]

Nerdic cope

 

[STAMPEDE]

But that shows that mongols already had euro dna from before... its the same people who got raped and then turned into mongols.


Can you agree that youre wrong about this? I proved it to be wrong so many times by now, you yourself posted that fucking chart that showed euros have no mongol DNA my guy:

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And there are no mongol ydna haplogroups in europe. If mongols raped, they would have male descendants, dont you understand this? Theyre just not there, they didnt leave genetic descendants.

Okay, are you acting obtuse or what? I explained what this meant already above and quoted it many times, why do you still post this?
Its only the finns who do, and its only up to 12%... and thats not from mongols raping them, but from the european DNA mongols share with whites. Its not derived from mongols, its shared. I explained this already. PLease i beg you, just admit youre wrong about this and stop saying the same shit over and over that has been addressed...

Finns alone do not have up to 12% mongol dna... All lands in europe that were conquered by mongols have mongol dna, mostly russia and poland, you can't deny this fact. Mongols have ancient indo iranian dna which is very different and not european, because indo iranians were mixed indo iranians and native populations that lived there at the time, so they're not even european. Genetic evidence show eastern europe have mongol dna, not including finland. All the evidence you showed goes out of the window because you said europeans left their dna in mongolia, when they didn't. So you just proved me right lmao. Now I want you to disprove me by searching if there's any mongol dna in eastern europe, because all genetic studies show there's significant mongol dna there left by the mongol empire.

 

[st.hamudi but 6‘5]

There are no genetic descendants. Ydna is the direct paternal line, thats how you see if one population raped another. There are no mongol paternal lines in europe.

The only way is if literally all mongol descendants died out. Then the rape wouldve happened, but its not in the genes of europeans anymore. But its highly unlikely this would happen, and it would still mean euros have no mongol genes nowadays.

alr ig learned something new today
but i really don’t care so much to form an opinion about it myself by looking it up and also read counter studies

let's just leave it at that

 

[STAMPEDE]

so you are saying that huns mongols and dschingis khan were raping europeans isn’t true that’s a completely new information for me tbh

He's coping. Russia and Poland have up to 7% mongol east asian dna left from the mongol empire. Huns didn't leave any dna as they were small in numbers but still managed to conquer germanic tribes despite being outnumbered.

 

[STAMPEDE]

News - Genetic Study Tracks Warriors from Mongolia to Hungary - Archaeology Magazine

LEIPZIG, GERMANY—According to a statement released by the Max Planck Society, a genetic study conducted by an […]

www.archaeology.org

@st.hamudi but 6‘5 @URL code

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Finns alone do not have up to 12% mongol dna... All lands in europe that were conquered by mongols have mongol dna, mostly russia and poland, you can't deny this fact.

But i just did and showed proof for it. You just keep denying it for some reason.

Mongols have ancient indo iranian dna which is very different and not european, because indo iranians were mixed indo iranians and native populations that lived there at the time, so they're not even european.

They were european though, sintashta are an eastward migration of corded ware people (european). They are the first people to call themselves indo iranian. Theyre europeans who migrated east. They mixed with BMAC populations on their way to india (non white, sure) but not on their way to the eastern steppe. The eastern steppe was already populated by indo europeans. They also resembled europeans genetically (sintashta is closest to nordic coutries out of all).

Genetic evidence show eastern europe have mongol dna, not including finland.

Dude, you havent provided it. Show it to me. You showed me mtDNA maps which are not paternal, so theyre not from mongol men.
You showed me a map of N1C1 which has got nothing to do with mongols. You showed me an article, which said euros have 12% mongol ancestry. The study that was being reported in that article said exactly this, thats where the quote is from. It literally said up to 12% in north euros and if you remove fins it drops significantly.

All the evidence you showed goes out of the window because you said europeans left their dna in mongolia, when they didn't.

They did leave it in the area where mongols started. These people became mongols. Same thing, different name.

So you just proved me right lol.

No i didnt, none of that proves you right.

Now I want you to disprove me by searching if there's any mongol dna in eastern europe, because all genetic studies show there's significant mongol dna there left by the mongol empire.

You havent quoted a single genetic study saying that.

Look at this and explain it to me (you showed me this, YOU!!!)

The green color corresponds to mongol dna here. There is none in all groups except the rightmost one, which has a few %, less than 5.

Also this:

Look how east euro countries have 0% of any asian admixtures.

If you dont agree with me after this reply, then idk. Ive explained it calmly and as understandable as possible.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

News - Genetic Study Tracks Warriors from Mongolia to Hungary - Archaeology Magazine

LEIPZIG, GERMANY—According to a statement released by the Max Planck Society, a genetic study conducted by an […]

www.archaeology.org

@st.hamudi but 6‘5 @URL code

Mr stampede, this study deals with ancient populations. It has nothing to do with modern europeans. Please read it before posting.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Russia and Poland have up to 7% mongol east asian dna left from the mongol empire.

proof?

 

[STAMPEDE]

But i just did and showed proof for it. You just keep denying it for some reason.


They were european though, sintashta are an eastward migration of corded ware people (european). They are the first people to call themselves indo iranian. Theyre europeans who migrated east. They mixed with BMAC populations on their way to india (non white, sure) but not on their way to the eastern steppe. The eastern steppe was already populated by indo europeans. They also resembled europeans genetically (sintashta is closest to nordic coutries out of all).


Dude, you havent provided it. Show it to me. You showed me mtDNA maps which are not paternal, so theyre not from mongol men.
You showed me a map of N1C1 which has got nothing to do with mongols. You showed me an article, which said euros have 12% mongol ancestry. The study that was being reported in that article said exactly this, thats where the quote is from. It literally said up to 12% in north euros and if you remove fins it drops significantly.


They did leave it in the area where mongols started. These people became mongols. Same thing, different name.


No i didnt, none of that proves you right.

You havent quoted a single genetic study saying that.

Look at this and explain it to me (you showed me this, YOU!!!)
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The green color corresponds to mongol dna here. There is none in all groups except the rightmost one, which has a few %, less than 5.

Also this:
View attachment 2508685

Look how east euro countries have 0% of any asian admixtures.

If you dont agree with me after this reply, then idk. Ive explained it calmly and as understandable as possible.

Look at the genetic similarity bewteen asians and europeans, I see the european lands that were conquered by mongols much closer to turkic-mongol people, and this is obvious as it's known khans were known to marry their sons to rus and polish women when mongol empire conquered them

 

[Deleted member 47655]

just finished reading this whole thread, i think @STAMPEDE might have some of the worst comprehension skills i've ever seen on this forum

 

[Deleted member 45118]

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Look at the genetic similarity bewteen asians and europeans, I see the european lands that were conquered by mongols much closer to turkic-mongol people, and this is obvious as it's known khans were known to marry their sons to rus and polish women when mongol empire conquered them

That map shows east and west eurasian genes, not mongol admixture. As you can notice, literally yemenites have as much east eurasian as russians. It doesnt mean asians raped russians, its genes remaining from before eurasians split to east and west. Also east eurasian includes australoid, not just mongoloid.

My charts show actual mongol admixture, of which there is shown to be none. And why dont you address any of them?

And also there isnt any mongol Ydna. If khans married their sons to rus and polish women, those khan's male descendants would their they mongol ydna, yet its not found there.

 

[Kamui]

All it takes is 1 race bait thread to get 6 pages worth of arguments jfllllll lmaoooooo

 

[STAMPEDE]

But i just did and showed proof for it. You just keep denying it for some reason.


They were european though, sintashta are an eastward migration of corded ware people (european). They are the first people to call themselves indo iranian. Theyre europeans who migrated east. They mixed with BMAC populations on their way to india (non white, sure) but not on their way to the eastern steppe. The eastern steppe was already populated by indo europeans. They also resembled europeans genetically (sintashta is closest to nordic coutries out of all).


Dude, you havent provided it. Show it to me. You showed me mtDNA maps which are not paternal, so theyre not from mongol men.
You showed me a map of N1C1 which has got nothing to do with mongols. You showed me an article, which said euros have 12% mongol ancestry. The study that was being reported in that article said exactly this, thats where the quote is from. It literally said up to 12% in north euros and if you remove fins it drops significantly.


They did leave it in the area where mongols started. These people became mongols. Same thing, different name.


No i didnt, none of that proves you right.

You havent quoted a single genetic study saying that.

Look at this and explain it to me (you showed me this, YOU!!!)
View attachment 2508684
The green color corresponds to mongol dna here. There is none in all groups except the rightmost one, which has a few %, less than 5.

Also this:
View attachment 2508685

Look how east euro countries have 0% of any asian admixtures.

If you dont agree with me after this reply, then idk. Ive explained it calmly and as understandable as possible.

I showed you a lot of paternal lineages but here I will show you again,

These are paternal linages coming from mongol men. Q haplogroup is one of them:

I suggest you do your research on all of these, because eastern europe has high percentage of mongol ascenry, and that coming from mongol men, paternal linage.

 

[st.hamudi but 6‘5]

All it takes is 1 race bait thread to get 6 pages worth of arguments jfllllll lmaoooooo

im laughing my ass off

 

[STAMPEDE]

That map shows east and west eurasian genes, not mongol admixture. As you can notice, literally yemenites have as much east eurasian as russians. It doesnt mean asians raped russians, its genes remaining from before eurasians split to east and west. Also east eurasian includes australoid, not just mongoloid.

My charts show actual mongol admixture, of which there is shown to be none. And why dont you address any of them?

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And also there isnt any mongol Ydna. If khans married their sons to rus and polish women, those khan's male descendants would their they mongol ydna, yet its not found there.

as for mongolians, they do have around ~10% West Eurasian (mostly European-like, indeed) ancestry.

That is definitely not a recent gene flow from some historic period, but something that dates back to the west-to-east expansion of early agro-pastoralists from the Pontic-Caspian steppe (e.g. Afanasievo culture) and, later, from Northern Europe, via North-Central Asia (e.g. Corded Ware > Abashevo, Fatyanovo > Sintashta culture > Andronovo cultural horizon). At that time the ancestors of Mongolians were still hunter-gatherers in Northeast Asia, and they probably learned and picked up a pastoral way of life from those western migrants, eventually outcompeting them.

 

[STAMPEDE]

just finished reading this whole thread, i think @STAMPEDE might have some of the worst comprehension skills i've ever seen on this forum

Read again, I'm not disagreeing with him with mongols having little european admixture, I'm disagreeing with him because he's saying eastern europeans don't have significant mongol ancestry, which is bullshit.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

I showed you a lot of paternal lineages but here I will show you again,

Nothing here says anything about paternal lineages in europe, you dont read the shit you post.

These are paternal linages coming from mongol men. Q haplogroup is one of them:

Your fucking map shows 0 or 0.5-1% in eastern europe, you proved yourself wrong for the 20th time in this thread. Not the 7% figure you mentioned earlier. And Q is not even mongolian, its ANE and it peaks in scandinavia, not exactly correlated with mongol invasions... Q in europe isnt from mongols, mongols had low amounts of Q. Show me C and O being present in europe, those are the ones mongols had in large percentages. You cant.

I suggest you do your research on all of these, because eastern europe has high percentage of mongol ascenry, and that coming from mongol men, paternal linage.

High = 0.5% Again your own map is saying that. Even though its not mongol dna, its funny that you prove yourself wrong in every god damn comment

 

[Deleted member 45118]

I'm disagreeing with him about eastern europeans having significant mongol ancestry.

Man you dont even respond to my proof of there being none present, why do you keep doing this. Admit youre wrong once and for all.

 

[STAMPEDE]

Nothing here says anything about paternal lineages in europe, you dont read the shit you post.


Your fucking map shows 0 or 0.5-1% in eastern europe, you proved yourself wrong for the 20th time in this thread. Not the 7% figure you mentioned earlier. And Q is not even mongolian, its ANE and it peaks in scandinavia, not exactly correlated with mongol invasions... Q in europe isnt from mongols, mongols had low amounts of Q. Show me C and O being present in europe, those are the ones mongols had in large percentages. You cant.


High = 0.5% Again your own map is saying that. Even though its not mongol dna, its funny that you prove yourself wrong in every god damn comment

Again, I said check all of the haplogroups out. They would show a much higher percentage, but you're probably scared to get proved wrong.

 

[Kamui]

im laughing my ass off

@URL code @STAMPEDE don’t you two have anything better to do rn this is wild ngl

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Again, I said check all of the haplogroups out. They would show a much higher percentage, but you're probably scared.

Which haplogroups you moron? Mongols had less than 4% Q, its not a mongol haplogroup

C and O are the east asian mongol lineages and theyre not present in europe...