Look at this result, Taban is overrated and Canthopexy is the way

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Canthopexy to get fox eye, in Italy doctors use static or dynamic canthopexy, either are better than any other surgery on the eye. The result that i am showing are two surgery made by Antonio Alban. Both girls had scleral show and prominent eye (with neutral vector i think). Look the result. Firs pic is after 2 years, second pic is after 2 month. I talk with him in pm and he says that the results are permanent and he ask me 5k for temporal lift with canthopexy, 7k for temporal cheek lift with canthopexy.

 

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Drammatic change. From beta to model tier eyes.

 

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I will get chin wing osteotomy + rhinoplasty, upper lip filler semi permanent injection and oculoplastic surgeon, probably with this doctors to become a normie/htn.

 

[Chadethnic101]

Canthopexy to get fox eye, in Italy doctors use static or dynamic canthopexy, either are better than any other surgery on the eye. The result that i am showing are two surgery made by Antonio Alban. Both girls had scleral show and prominent eye (with neutral vector i think). Look the result. Firs pic is after 2 years, second pic is after 2 month. I talk with him in pm and he says that the results are permanent and he ask me 5k for temporal lift with canthopexy, 7k for temporal cheek lift with canthopexy.

Morin the eyes after hard. However for me you may look a bit feminine? My eyes are feminine and I like the contrast with a good jaw (even tho not PSL ideal) kinda gives a mix of pretty boy and masculine with jaw and stubble

 

[russwestbrook]

thanks for sharing, whats the difference between temporal cheek lift and temporal lift?

 

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Morin the eyes after hard. However for me you may look a bit feminine? My eyes are feminine and I like the contrast with a good jaw (even tho not PSL ideal) kinda gives a mix of pretty boy and masculine with jaw and stubble

i have good jaw but slighlty asimmetric and slightly recessed, for that i will get chin wing but canthopexy has priority.

 

[Deleted member 16834]

How much for just the cheek lift.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

thanks for sharing, whats the difference between temporal cheek lift and temporal lift?

With cheek lift you lift your cheek area and release the vertical tension on the lower eyelid (like lower eyelid retraction) and you can fix mouth's wrinkles (if you have)

 

[Deleted member 17501]

How much for just the cheek lift.

About 2k but canthal fixation is needed

 

[Deleted member 16834]

With cheek lift you lift your cheek area and release the vertical tension on the lower eyelid (like lower eyelid retraction) and you can fix mouth's wrinkles (if you have)

Is cheeklift done with threads? Or fat repositioning

Also what’s canthal fixation

 

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Imagine to spend 30k for Taban that works ONLY at Beverly Hills to mill money, 30k for shit result. I hate his before and after results.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Is cheeklift done with threads? Or fat repositioning

Also what’s canthal fixation

Canthal fixation is canthoplasty or canthopexy, cheek lift and fat grafting are different but you can get them togheter, fat grafting or lipofilling (like we call it in italy) is the natural replacement of infraorbital rim implants that are an alien body in your face.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Add a supraorbital and maybe infra.o. rim implant and you have a top tier eye area.

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Canthal fixation is canthoplasty or canthopexy, cheek lift and fat grafting are different but you can get them togheter, fat grafting or lipofilling (like we call it in italy) is the natural replacement of infraorbital rim implants that are an alien body in your face.

Sounds interesting. Anyways to increase pfl if you already have a positive canthal tilt.

Getting cantho would make me look alien bc I already have really good pct.

I just want deeper set eyes and longer pfl

 

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On realself.com Taban and Kenneth Steinsapir are the two most overrated and hated doctors i ever seen. The talk like there are no other oculoplastic surgeon in the world and they are the only to get good surgery (if you look steinsapir site there is no one good after befor, only shit)

 

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Sounds interesting. Anyways to increase pfl if you already have a positive canthal tilt.

Getting cantho would make me look alien bc I already have really good pct.

I just want deeper set eyes and longer pfl

Canthopexy can do that, canthopexy can raise a CT and a lower eyelid, also make an eye longer.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Add a supraorbital and maybe infra.o. rim implant and you have a top tier eye area.

Fat grafting is the same thing. Infraorbital rim implants are an alien body in your face

 

[Deleted member]

can he also downturn the medial canthus?

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Canthopexy can do that, canthopexy can raise a CT and a lower eyelid, also make an eye longer.

I’ve consulted with both taban and Kenneth. Taban is a fraud. He posts pics of post surgery eyes with swelling. In the future his all his lower eyelid results relapse

What’s CT?

 

[Titbot]

Bone canthoplasty can raise pfl. Canthopexy just repositions the canthus

 

[Deleted member 17501]

I’ve consulted with both taban and Kenneth. Taban is a fraud. He posts pics of post surgery eyes with swelling. In the future his all his lower eyelid results relapse

What’s CT?

In the post pic of Taban peoples are smiling. Look at the results i showed, all neutral face. Look at this result, dottor Graziani. He is an oculoplastic surgeon in Torino. Mogs Taban to oblivion

 

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I’ve consulted with both taban and Kenneth. Taban is a fraud. He posts pics of post surgery eyes with swelling. In the future his all his lower eyelid results relapse

What’s CT?

CT is canthal tilt

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Bone canthoplasty can raise pfl. Canthopexy just repositions the canthus

If you look the first pic the eye are longer and the ct is raised.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Neutral face. No smiling. Eye shape change drammatically.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

can he also downturn the medial canthus?

yes

 

[Deleted member]

yes

are you sure

Absolute lifefuel if true

 

[Deleted member]

yes

name of the doctor and where he’s based?

 

[Deleted member 16834]

yes

How? What’s the name of the procedure to downturn medial canthus?

I’ll consult him if true

 

[CursedOne]

is this surgry done by the italian doc permanent?
Need to check this Antonio Alban out.

 

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are you sure

Absolute lifefuel if true

canthopexy can do everithing and i think that canthoplasty is overrated. If you have mid face deficity and 2-3mm of scleral show ok, you need spacer graft, canthoplasty and miface suspension, but if you have beta eyes or 0-5/1mm of scleral show and neutral/negative CT canthopexy is the way. May combined with other surgery.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

is this surgry done by the italian doc permanent?
Need to check this Antonio Alban out.

Yes canthopexy is permanent.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

name of the doctor and where he’s based?

Every Italian's doctor is better than yours. You can see on internet : Bernardini, Graziani, Pascali, Albano.

 

[Deleted member 16834]

@LOGAN0292 what’s your opinion on orbital decompression?

 

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@LOGAN0292 what’s your opinion on orbital decompression?

I like the orbital decompression but the key is to fix the position of eye with the midface, so, for example, if you have negative vector fat grafting can add volume to your infraorbiatl rim and replacement the decompression surgery (if you have too prominent eye you have to to orbital decompression surgery).

 

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Neutral face. No smiling. Eye shape change drammatically.

Do you want to know how Taban approach with this girl in before pic? Orbital decompression surgery, cheek lift, temporal lift, Lower eyelid retraction and canthoplasty. 40k. Antonio albano did temporal lift and canthopexy for 5k. The ipotetical result of taban? shit like the others. The result of Albano? You can look it with your eyes. 40k vs 5k. You choice.

 

[CursedOne]

Every Italian's doctor is better than yours. You can see on internet : Bernardini, Graziani, Pascali, Albano.

do one of this doctor also perform orbital decompression?

 

[WannaBeA6]

Inferior to Taban, props to him for dealing with the infraorbital area, but their upper eyelids are disgusting, Taban deals with implants which mimic bone, not a mere canthopexy

 

[Deleted member 16834]

I like the orbital decompression but the key is to fix the position of eye with the midface, so, for example, if you have negative vector fat grafting can add volume to your infraorbiatl rim and replacement the decompression surgery (if you have too prominent eye you have to to orbital decompression surgery).

What surgeries to go from

To

 

[Deleted member 17501]

do one of this doctor also perform orbital decompression?

Bernardini

 

[Deleted member 16834]

Inferior to Taban, props to him for dealing with the infraorbital area, but their upper eyelids are disgusting, Taban deals with implants which mimic bone, not a mere canthopexy

All his patients complain about relapse
Taban sucks

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Inferior to Taban, props to him for dealing with the infraorbital area, but their upper eyelids are disgusting, Taban deals with implants which mimic bone, not a mere canthopexy

Infraorbital rim implants? Fat grafting is the same think. If you want foxEye you have to lift with canthopexy. Inferior? Taban results are disgusting and poeples in after pics is smiling.

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Inferior to Taban, props to him for dealing with the infraorbital area, but their upper eyelids are disgusting, Taban deals with implants which mimic bone, not a mere canthopexy

Taban did infraorbital rim implants + decompression + lower eyelid retraction + canthoplasty, why?

infraorbital rim implant + decompression is a combo to fix a negative vector
lower eyelid retraction with canthoplasty is a disgusting technique who close an eye, do not make him longer

To fix negative vector you just need to add volume to your mid face, fat grafting for example, cheek lift
You want cat eye or almond eye? Canthopexy is the way. Look at the results i showed, there is no one Taban results that is good like what i post

 

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This is a canthoplasty wit fat grafting to fix a negative vector. He raise up the lower eyelid and make a wonderful work, without decompression and infraorbital rim and without frauding with pic where peoples are smiling like Taban do.

 

[CursedOne]

Bernardini

But his results arent that great

 

[Deleted member 17501]

Inferior to Taban, props to him for dealing with the infraorbital area, but their upper eyelids are disgusting, Taban deals with implants which mimic bone, not a mere canthopexy

Look at this pictures genius. In the "after" frontal pic there is no scleral show (after 100000 surgery). In the same pic (the "after" pic) but different angle there is scleral show. Because he was smiling in the frontal after pic. Taban is a lier and he works only for moneys.

 

[Deleted member 16834]

But his results arent that great

This. She had a amazing pfl and deepset eyes. Only needed lower eyelid fat repositioning and maybe co2 laser.

Now looks like a ethnic scum with bulging eyes

 

[Deleted member 17501]

But his results arent that great

1 person on 100 says ok to charge a personal surgery pic. There is something call privacy unfortunately.

 

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This. She had a amazing pfl and deepset eyes. Only needed lower eyelid fat repositioning and maybe co2 laser.

Now looks like a ethnic scum with bulging eyes

This is only an endoscopic temporal lift, no canthoplasty. Probably she wants only this surgery.

 

[Deleted member 16834]

This is only an endoscopic temporal lift, no canthoplasty. Probably she wants only this surgery.

How did temporal lift make her eyes bulge eyes out so badly?

 

[Deleted member 17501]

How did temporal lift make her eyes bulge eyes out so badly?

Because he make only temporal lift, he does not add volume to infraorbital rim with fat grafting, he do not do compression surguery or canthoplasty. If you lift the temple without release the vertical tension on the lower eyelid and you have prominent eye that are the result. idk tbh