Masculine men are gross abominations that would've gone extinct without rape

[Sondern]

Are you grimba?
@disillusioned

If you are and cant admit it. please add me on discord. timothy2296

 

[HellenicChad]

I hate ogres but they are the true product of evolution. It is only when you introduce cucked things like laws that incels and prettyboys can survive and reproduce.

Laws are literally made to benefit Chads and women. In a lawless society incels would chimpout and take what they want using force

 

[Justin Trudeau]

Masculine men promote and encourage toxic masculinity!

 

[Baldingman1998]

It is prettybos who get the most and the best of pussy. Masculinity is cope for ugly men.
This is PSL basics.
Masculinity crew are often closet homosexuals btw.

Masculine does not mean ugly. Ideally is attractive features+ high t(masculine).

an attractive face is attractive on both genders but hormones either make the face more feminine or masculine which is what the opposing genders find attractive.

 

[Deleted member 24781]

There is absolutely nothing aesthetically pleasing about these big ogres. Nobody, neither men nor women, finds these high-testosterone monsters even remotely attractive. The femboy pheno (basically the cute guys you see in most anime/manga) is what 99% of women want.

My conspiracy theory is that evolution would have selected against masculinity (both physical and social) if women had simply been allowed to choose with whom they mated from the very beginning. The only reason this didn't happen is that the larger and more aggressive males basically brute-forced their way into evolutionary success by killing all the pretty boys who would've cucked them otherwise. They then justified it by making up some bullshit about how women 'love dominant men' and how 'manly' it is to simply beat the shit out of your rivals.

The traditional wisdom is that men like cute women and women like manly men. But the truth is that BOTH genders like cute individuals. Nobody thinks ogre sub-humans are good-looking.

You are mistaken. If the orge became the alpha male of the group. Prime age women would flock to him.

 

[Deleted member 24781]

Natural selection is such a misunderstood concept tbh. Most people think that superior genes = what women want/select for.

Well, that's the general census in the evolutionary psychology field. You're a clueless fool.

Masculine cues are markers of fitness in men.

 

[Deleted member 21467]

It’s all about strong genetic desire. I’ve seen ltb with big ass dudes who are like 6ft.

 

[Deleted member 18522]

This is true. In rich and high class circles were pretty boys don't meet the fate of being mogged to death and intimidated by ogres, they'll outslay them 9/10 times.

But I don't think all women like the same thing. I'd say it's around 20% who like ogres or so, while 80% prefer pretty boys, and the guys who are masculine pretty boys (e.i Brad pitt, notice how he doesn't have ogre features like jay leno chin, giant brow, giant nose) have the most because they overlap with pretty boy and masculine appeal.

But yeah, in most cases you're better off being a pretty boy than a ogre in 9/10 cases. especially adjusting for height, but i've seen more than enough 5'8 Bieber looking twigs slay high E women with slim waists. while most ogres are with fat women.

 

[Deleted member 18522]

Id have to disagree.

Masculinity does not stop at asthetics. Masculinity also means masculinized brain patterns, and that also means mental and moral precision which correlates to a lack of proficiency in todays feminine and socially addicted society.

Those orgres you speak of are what i call artifical. And yes they are generally mogging in both sex frequency and social proficiency than a true masculine man. But their behavior does not imply masculinity imo. Not even considering how rare men are. First, to get an idea of asthetic, id say real bio men have similar faces to vicroria secret models (since the models are known for sharing male innersex traits) That exact long face and sloped, hollow cheeky, long jaw look. The image of a Pretty boy is not masculine men but share more traits to ftm.

This idea that masculine men somehow crusaded pretty boys is pretty false imo. If this were the case we’d actually have masculine men around and not socially feminine, women are wonderful syndrome prone injectors. Also why assume that todays applications of female nature hypergamy did not happen back then. Nothing new under the sun!

Just like how they pick the artifical today, going based on the packaging and not the content, the cycle continues.

What i think happens is that masculinity was phased or is eventually getting breeded out, and then a pool of nonmasculine men - both pretty boy and orge, emerge to take the spot. Ofc the muscular ogre will succeed over the pretty boy, but its two sides of the same coin imo. Real masc men in todays society seem like nonparticipants. Not alpha not beta but mgtow, not pretty boy or ogre just rare and nonrepresented. Additionally aside from looks, The masculine brain pattern is labaled toxic, conspiracy theory, incel etc, and do things just snot leveraged as well as if you were to do it in a feminine/social nature.

handsome is just a mix of cute and ogre.

but ogre is way worse than cute.

like i'd rather be cute than ogre at the same time in 9/10 cases, unless you live in like ukraine or guatamala

 

[Deleted member 15164]

Some masculine male models in the 90s

 

[standardcel]

Cope

Girls love ugly masc guys

 

[rubberduck]

OP is absolutely right and no brute oaf caveman looking mf has ever had women approach them
I follow pretty boy archetype and have never asked out a woman in my life but have been asked out by countless, always see caveman retards cry that women like skinny pretty boys
Also, the women most attracted to those ogres are low class hoodrat ones who want a human shield for the drama and fights they start
If you want a good girl from high class stock she only cares about status and goes for the pretty boy

 

[Kamui]

@5.5psl these guys are so fucking retarded bro they think all masc guys are bald orges when guys are saying masc > prettyboy they are talking about maesthetic (Maher, Meeks, Thurston, Laid) IRL slayers who have actual IRL presence. Prettyboys are definitely getting pussy but Maesthetic guys are another level

They’ve overdosed on Tails so much that they think that whenever someone says masculine they’re referring to some bald roided out ogre with a beard and who can only slay fat land whales and roasties lmao