Maxilla Is The Most Overrated Shit On This Site, "Blackpillers" Just Use The Term Without Having Any Understanding About The Maxilla.

[looksseg]

As i said (even posted the study) that tail size isn't actually optimal.

There's a reason behind everything, idiot. "Just more attractive bro". Why? "Just because."
Kindergarten level answer. Use your peanut brain.

No it wouldn't and it isn't you imbecile. You're completely excluding competition which has been the main factor throughout evolution. Height is slightly detrimental to natural lifespan, but very benefitial to fighting success, which ensures you actually get the maximum lifespan. What good is high lifespan potential as a manlet when you'll get killed by an animal or a taller, stronger guy.

My point is, traits aren't attractive "just because", you have the iq of a child if you think by that logic. Also stop coping with the disproven bird "study". Traits become attracive because the mutation which makes individuals attracted to them ensures better reproductive success. I.e. - they actually provide an evolutionary benefit. Such as a 90° mandible. So the offspring with these traits can reproduce more effectively and carry on the gene that makes you find these traits attractive.

Not all traits are seen as more beautiful because of revolutionary reason

For example, blue eyes

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Not all traits are better for an revolutionary reason

For example, blue eyes

Blue eyes are more sensitive to light.

 

[looksseg]

Blue eyes are more sensitive to light.

Exactly, not a positive trait for evolution, and still seen as more attractive

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Exactly, not a positive trait for evolution, and still seen as more attractive

Blue people see betzer in dark.

 

[looksseg]

Blue people see betzer in dark.

Ok, that’s correct

But why then it is still seen as more attractive in warm places though it didn’t evolve there (more disadvantages than advantages probably) ?

And what would be the evolutionary advantage of contrast in colors? (Ex: black hair and blue eyes seen as more attractive in male)

 

[Vain786]

Ok, that’s correct

But why then it is still seen as more attractive in warm places though it didn’t evolve there (more disadvantages than advantages probably) ?

And what would be the evolutionary advantage of contrast in colors? (Ex: black hair and blue eyes seen as more attractive in male)

to recognise ur own kids

 

[ripcordgod1]

Ok, that’s correct

But why then it is still seen as more attractive in warm places though it didn’t evolve there (more disadvantages than advantages probably) ?

And what would be the evolutionary advantage of contrast in colors? (Ex: black hair and blue eyes seen as more attractive in male)

it isn't lmfao have u seen chinks with blue eyes and such? makes them look uncanny and doesn't suit their pheno at all

would look 10x better with regular mutt black eyes
eye color is more important for showcasing of the limbal ring, a sign of youth and makes the iris look smaller, a small floating iris is a classic trait in predators so basically eye color just helps to fraud to look like you have really good pfl

this would not be considered scleral show as the eye is properly developed

those other traits black hair and blue eyes, are attractive to some and not to others its simply which ever pheno looks best to a woman
ur not gonna do shit with ur pheno tho if u look like dogshit

 

[looksseg]

it isn't lmfao have u seen chinks with blue eyes and such? makes them look uncanny and doesn't suit their pheno at all

would look 10x better with regular mutt black eyes
eye color is more important for showcasing of the limbal ring, a sign of youth and makes the iris look smaller, a small floating iris is a classic trait in predators so basically eye color just helps to fraud to look like you have really good pfl

this would not be considered scleral show as the eye is properly developed

those other traits black hair and blue eyes, are attractive to some and not to others its simply which ever pheno looks best to a woman
ur not gonna do shit with ur pheno tho if u look like dogshit

It’s still better for Mediterraneans though can be very warm in these places

Or even for ethnics in very warm places, like Arabs

 

[sibience]

You’re right about dick size don’t make different to get (new) girl

But Asians do have much shorter penis size than other races. Just search for studies about it

What is myth is black having bigger cocks

There aren't any studies saying asians have much shorter sizes.

You should search some studies and read about them. Clearly you haven't because you still believe this myth.

Genio doesn’t bring mandible forward, Thus it looks a bit artificial, proportions are not good

You need bimax to bring mandible forward and looks more natural and more harmonic

Bimax is not much different than genio if you are only bringing the mandible forward. Obviously there are exceptions.

Bimax is no joke, extremely terrible recovery and way higher cost.


BSSO is basically usually what is done for the lower jaw to be moved forward. This could actually make proportions worse vs genio because the mandible will look too long without the chin being any more projected, unlike genio.

 

[sibience]

it isn't lmfao have u seen chinks with blue eyes and such? makes them look uncanny and doesn't suit their pheno at all

would look 10x better with regular mutt black eyes
eye color is more important for showcasing of the limbal ring, a sign of youth and makes the iris look smaller, a small floating iris is a classic trait in predators so basically eye color just helps to fraud to look like you have really good pfl

this would not be considered scleral show as the eye is properly developed

those other traits black hair and blue eyes, are attractive to some and not to others its simply which ever pheno looks best to a woman
ur not gonna do shit with ur pheno tho if u look like dogshit

Many kpop idols wear very fake looking coloured contacts and get worshipped, example is V from BTS but basically almost all of them honestly.

So "blue eyes make asians uncanny and doesn't suit them" is pure cope.

Blue eyes are more sensitive to light.

Flat bulbous noses are very unattractive. But it was the reason east asians survived their climate.

Features don't need a survival advantage to be attractive. Objectively attractive features are attractive simply because they are more pleasing to look at. And because they are just more beautiful to the eyes.

A born blind person can feel a bulbous nose and face and won't be able to determine if they find that attractive or not, because they can't see to determine whether their eyes find it attractive or not.

 

[looksseg]

There aren't any studies saying asians have much shorter sizes.

You should search some studies and read about them. Clearly you haven't because you still believe this myth.

Ok, so check by yourself then. See which countries are in the bottom part, and what continent they belong

Penis Size by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Bimax is not much different than genio if you are only bringing the mandible forward. Obviously there are exceptions.

Bimax is no joke, extremely terrible recovery and way higher cost.


BSSO is basically usually what is done for the lower jaw to be moved forward. This could actually make proportions worse vs genio because the mandible will look too long without the chin being any more projected, unlike genio

“Extremely terrible”? Did you do bimax by any chance?
It’s very ok the recovery, it’s uncomfortable as in any surgery. Same level of others, even rhynoplasty. LL that is “extremely terrible”

Almost never BSSO will be done alone, you can’t move mandible forward without adjusting maxilla accordingly, so this don’t make proportions worse, and any surgeon will exactly make proportions ideal, something that genio alone obviously can’t do

Other thing, bimax is never done alone (aesthetically) without genio, so chin doesn’t look short. But good that you came into this conclusion, because it’s exactly the reason why proportions get bad with only genio, long chin with short mandible

What I can agree with you is that cost benefit of genio can be better, since bimax usually involves need of using braces, and is much more expensive, and genio already helps a lot. But bimax will always be better

 

[looksseg]

Many kpop idols wear very fake looking coloured contacts and get worshipped, example is V from BTS but basically almost all of them honestly.

So "blue eyes make asians uncanny and doesn't suit them" is pure cope.




Flat bulbous noses are very unattractive. But it was the reason east asians survived their climate.

Features don't need a survival advantage to be attractive. Objectively attractive features are attractive simply because they are more pleasing to look at. And because they are just more beautiful to the eyes.

A born blind person can feel a bulbous nose and face and won't be able to determine if they find that attractive or not, because they can't see to determine whether their eyes find it attractive or not.

But what they argue is that the “pleasant to eyes” happens for evolutionary reasons, like our brain find attractive For evolutionary reasons, the lineages that didn’t find attractive didn’t survive

But, I think that not everything is like that, for some exceptions no, probably due to variability, not everything in nature will be perfect, as long as it is not impeditive for continue specie

 

[Mouthbreath]

Isn't the anterior nasal spine literally part of the maxilla though?

 

[sibience]

“Extremely terrible”? Did you do bimax by any chance?
It’s very ok the recovery, it’s uncomfortable as in any surgery. Same level of others, even rhynoplasty. LL that is “extremely terrible”

Almost never BSSO will be done alone, you can’t move mandible forward without adjusting maxilla accordingly, so this don’t make proportions worse, and any surgeon will exactly make proportions ideal, something that genio alone obviously can’t do

Other thing, bimax is never done alone (aesthetically) without genio, so chin doesn’t look short. But good that you came into this conclusion, because it’s exactly the reason why proportions get bad with only genio, long chin with short mandible

What I can agree with you is that cost benefit of genio can be better, since bimax usually involves need of using braces, and is much more expensive, and genio already helps a lot. But bimax will always be better

Bimax is terrible because it makes the jaw longer without making chin more projected. You say that genio should be done with bimax, which would create an extremely long jaw that would look stupid.

Genio done alone would actually produce natural and good results.

Only in actual recessed cases would someone need bimax + genio. Not cases where the mandible isn't recessed, as BSSO would be stupid and won't really even improve looks.

 

[sibience]

Isn't the anterior nasal spine literally part of the maxilla though?

More of the nose.

If someone has midfacial hypoplasia, they could still easily have a developed (meaning a lot of bone in it) anterior nasal spine. So their midface isn't flat due to it, but they still have midfacial hypoplasia.


And a lefort 2 that moves the maxilla forward in an asian patient will not make the midface any less flat. Because the anterior nasal spine which is more at the base of the nose doesn't get augmented with an implant (more bone).

 

[Zer0/∞]

kys pan faced gook

 

[sibience]

kys pan faced gook

You are not even the first 20 .org users to tell me to kms JFL

 

[looksseg]

Bimax is terrible because it makes the jaw longer without making chin more projected. You say that genio should be done with bimax, which would create an extremely long jaw that would look stupid.

Genio done alone would actually produce natural and good results.

Only in actual recessed cases would someone need bimax + genio. Not cases where the mandible isn't recessed, as BSSO would be stupid and won't really even improve looks.

But of course bimax should be done in recessed people , not normal ones

But same here applies to genioplasty

Anyway each case is a different one, usually who has a recessed chin also has recessed mandible and vice-versa

 

[sibience]

But of course bimax should be done in recessed people , not normal ones

That's what my normal post was saying. Many users here suggest bimax in cases when it would be useless.

Anyway each case is a different one, usually who has a recessed chin also has recessed mandible and vice-versa

Not really. Chin projection is due to a lot of anterior bone in the chin. Recessed mandible is due to the anterior position of the mandible.

Many people have good not recessed mandibles (although perhaps not enough bone in it for a male) but not enough chin projection.


But recessed mandible causing overbite will make the chin look more recessed, even though the chin projection is the same.

 

[Deleted member 23391]

Great post. Most so-called blackpillers are retards and only think in buzzwords like "maxilla" or "ccw" and as a result think short prognathic faces with nonprojecting noses are attractive.

 

[garoupilled_]

So according to OP is this a valid bimax or a dogmax?

where did u animate this?

 

[Allornothing]

saying "maxilla" just makes them sound like they understand facial aesthetics and anatomy (when they really don't).

1. In almost all cases, if someone's mandible is not recessed and they have a normal bite or overbite, their maxilla is not recessed.

The irony.

 

[sibience]

The irony.

???

My statement is correct. Please attempt to disprove what I said, instead of just saying that.