Midface changes as result of bimax

[Deleted member 20914]

I thought this might be interesting to some of you.

third pic is a line indicating the position of the cut with soft tissue overlay

 

[Deleted member 20914]

This was not a particularly high cut, just a regular lefort 1

 

[Deleted member 20914]

this is the highest one could go, impossible if you are getting implants. Cut must be below the nasal turbinate

 

[Deleted member 18879]

ill still be incel this is why i need a modified lefort 3 to save me

 

[Deleted member 20914]

ill still be incel this is why i need a modified lefort 3 to save me

modified lefort 3 is a meme, it doesn't bring nose forward. Lefort 1 with custom implants has made lefort 3 redundant

 

[Suimaxxer]

Barely noticeable difference tbh

 

[Deleted member 18879]

modified lefort 3 is a meme, it doesn't bring nose forward. Lefort 1 with custom implants has made lefort 3 redundant

In the case of someone with an underbite and flat zygos/malar etc, would you get quadrangular lefort 1 and infraorbital+malar implants?

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Barely noticeable difference tbh

agree but it probably looks better in motion compared to before

 

[Suimaxxer]

agree but it probably looks better in motion compared to before

Maybe, but is it worth the money? I dont think so

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Maybe, but is it worth the money? I dont think so

That was not the main point of the bimax, just a side effect

 

[Suimaxxer]

That was not the main point of the bimax, just a side effect

Does bimaxxing worth it?

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Does bimaxxing worth it?

for me yes

 

[Sanguinius]

Is that not swelling still?

 

[Deleted member 22868]

Op is very high iq, rich and now chad

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Is that not swelling still?

I am swollen but the position of the nose will not change according to my surgeon, you can feel the bone is effectively flush with the soft tissue

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Op is very high iq, rich and now chad

LOL, thanks for the compliment but I disagree

 

[Sanguinius]

I am swollen but the position of the nose will not change according to my surgeon, you can feel the bone is effectively flush with the soft tissue

That’s a good change then, I think it would actually be more noticeable irl than what the pics may indicate

 

[dakchuh]

I thought this might be interesting to some of you.

third pic is a line indicating the position of the cut with soft tissue overlay

first pic, left is after, right before? is the before pic without infra implants? and what are your lefort movements?

 

[Deleted member 20064]

I generally think I would do anything to be able to have this surgery.

 

[Deleted member 20914]

first pic, left is after, right before? is the before pic without infra implants? and what are your lefort movements?

yes, triangle got bigger. 4mm maxilla movement with slight CCW (i think it was like 1 degree).

No, this is with the infraorbital implants, but I dont see how that would affect nose.

 

[dakchuh]

yes, triangle got bigger. 4mm maxilla movement with slight CCW (i think it was like 1 degree).

No, this is with the infraorbital implants, but I dont see how that would affect nose.

i was moreso looking at your undereye. it seems to have slightly improved, but maybe its just lighting

 

[Deleted member 20914]

i was moreso looking at your undereye. it seems to have slightly improved, but maybe its just lighting

too swollen

 

[FutureAestheticMale]

Op is very high iq, rich and now chad

Bro I cracked up jahahaha

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Maybe, but is it worth the money? I dont think so

If it's for free then it's worth the money (insurance)

 

[Deleted member 27464]

If it's for free then it's worth the money (insurance)

have you heard of anyone getting bimax or any jaw surgery on UK insurance? in if so

 

[Deleted member 18879]

have you heard of anyone getting bimax or any jaw surgery on UK insurance? in if so

Not on UK insurance, but I imagine they would probably fund it if you can prove sleep apnea. I know that you can get it on NHS if it's bad enough (even with no health problems) as I've had a consult for it

 

[Deleted member 20914]

have you heard of anyone getting bimax or any jaw surgery on UK insurance? in if so

No, and I wouldn't go to some no-name surgeon either

 

[Deleted member 18879]

No, and I wouldn't go to some no-name surgeon either

Cope if you're legit deformed especially class 3 any sort of advancement would increase your quality of life which is the only time you should get bimax

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Cope if you're legit deformed especially class 3 any sort of advancement would increase your quality of life which is the only time you should get bimax

are you seriously gatekeeping bimaxes

 

[Deleted member 18879]

are you seriously gatekeeping bimaxes

tbh yes. enjoy wasting 30-40k+ on an osteotomy that's used to correct skeletal deficiencies when implants would be far better for you

 

[Deleted member 15582]

you wanted to do a rhino right? It would probably improve you but not by a lot. My nose is identical to yours and im also on the fence about rhino.

 

[Deleted member 20914]

View attachment 2151703you wanted to do a rhino right? It would probably improve you but not by a lot. My nose is identical to yours and im also on the fence about rhino.

not worth getting botched imo, i kinda like my nose and I was only considering it because its objectively a 'failo'

 

[Deleted member 27464]

Not on UK insurance, but I imagine they would probably fund it if you can prove sleep apnea. I know that you can get it on NHS if it's bad enough (even with no health problems) as I've had a consult for it

what was the outcome of your consult? Also aren't lead times to see an ETN over a year post pandemic? Honestly NHS is a sham give us private healthcare that works already

 

[Deleted member 20914]

tbh yes. enjoy wasting 30-40k+ on an osteotomy that's used to correct skeletal deficiencies when implants would be far better for you

Most people have SOME skeletal deficiency and would benefit from bimax. I was technically recessed before

 

[NegativeNorwood]

View attachment 2151703you wanted to do a rhino right? It would probably improve you but not by a lot. My nose is identical to yours and im also on the fence about rhino.

Subtle but good change. Which software did you use for editing the nose?

 

[Deleted member 20914]

tbh yes. enjoy wasting 30-40k+ on an osteotomy that's used to correct skeletal deficiencies when implants would be far better for you

30-40k? Idk where you get these numbers, for bimax only it would have cost me 20k, it was 32k with PEEK supras and infras. That's only about £28k

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Subtle but good change. Which software did you use for editing the nose?

Photoshop is best, just use liquify tool

 

[NegativeNorwood]

tbh yes. enjoy wasting 30-40k+ on an osteotomy that's used to correct skeletal deficiencies when implants would be far better for you

He clearly was recessed before and benefited from bimax. He did not have a birdcel tier recession, but only implants without bimax would have been a retarded move for him. Have you seen his jaw CBCT scan? You are legit retarded if you think jaw implants without bimax would have been a better solution for him (or anyone else who is recessed).

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Most people have SOME skeletal deficiency and would benefit from bimax. I was technically recessed before

if you're the blonde guy that got infraorbital implants then that was your biggest falio for sure that you've corrected

what was the outcome of your consult? Also aren't lead times to see an ETN over a year post pandemic? Honestly NHS is a sham give us private healthcare that works already

Idk I had my consult in 2017 but I was seen within 3 weeks of referral. I don't think there are many people in need of a maxilofacial surgeon tbh. At the consult there were like 8+ student doctors that were looking at me taking notes so that was brutal. There was also a korean plastic surgeon consultant that was taking PSL-tier ratios and dimensions of my face while asking me if I had any other aesthetic concerns (hinting at my subhumanity). People on this site that say they don't take aesthetics into account and only treat people with health issues are talking out their ass.

I do have AXA health insurance but I've never tried it with that. I didn't end up going through with it because my teeth were dirty at the time and they said I needed to clean them, they suggested I get maxillary advancement and a genio to correct chin asymmetry (a purely cosmetic surgery) all of which would've been paid for by the taxpayer. I'm a mong for not following up, but I was depressed out of my nut and suicidal at the time. I'm assuming nothing has changed in terms of their criteria for surgical candidates so I could probably get it again, as for current wait times I'm not sure, but it probably hasn't changed much afaik.

 

[Deleted member 18879]

He clearly was recessed before and benefited from bimax. He did not have a birdcel tier recession, but only implants without bimax would have been a retarded move for him. Have you seen his jaw CBCT scan? You are legit retarded if you think jaw implants without bimax would have been a better solution for him (or anyone else who is recessed).

I didn't see his scan, I was assuming he was like 99% of the website and mentally ill

 

[Deleted member 27464]

if you're the blonde guy that got infraorbital implants then that was your biggest falio for sure that you've corrected

Idk I had my consult in 2017 but I was seen within 3 weeks of referral. I don't think there are many people in need of a maxilofacial surgeon tbh. At the consult there were like 8+ student doctors that were looking at me taking notes so that was brutal. There was also a korean plastic surgeon consultant that was taking PSL-tier ratios and dimensions of my face while asking me if I had any other aesthetic concerns (hinting at my subhumanity). People on this site that say they don't take aesthetics into account and only treat people with health issues are talking out their ass.

I do have AXA health insurance but I've never tried it with that. I didn't end up going through with it because my teeth were dirty at the time and they said I needed to clean them, they suggested I get maxillary advancement and a genio to correct chin asymmetry (a purely cosmetic surgery) all of which would've been paid for by the taxpayer. I'm a mong for not following up, but I was depressed out of my nut and suicidal at the time. I'm assuming nothing has changed in terms of their criteria for surgical candidates so I could probably get it again, as for current wait times I'm not sure, but it probably hasn't changed much afaik.

Sounds like it was all laid out on the table for you, bet you regret not taking up the offer! I'm gonna go to the GP and see if he will refer me to ENT for mouth breathing / sleep apnea but I hold little faith in the public sector..

 

[NegativeNorwood]

I didn't see his scan, I was assuming he was like 99% of the website and mentally ill

While I do agree with your suspicions (plenty of retards here), he actually is pretty smart:

My infraorbital and supraorbital design + bimax plan.

Trimax + Infras + Supras Implants were designed by @RealSurgerymax I don't know why I'm even posting on this shithole forum but there you go. SURGERY DATE: March 25 I will be answering your questions

looksmax.org

Dude had mogger gonions, jaw and chin width, but a class 2 malocclusion and a recessed chin (wide and square but lacking height and projection), so he got bimax, genio and giga blackpilled periorbital implants that gave him compact, square orbits and high set cheekbones. Best possible plan for his situation.

 

[Deleted member 15582]

not worth getting botched imo, i kinda like my nose and I was only considering it because its objectively a 'failo'

Probably almost no risk if you tell them to only remove a very very small amount. Its a pity its like 6k for a milimiter of bone removal tho.

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Probably almost no risk if you tell them to only remove a very very small amount. Its a pity its like 6k for a milimiter of bone removal tho.

not worth 6k, id rather do it myself

 

[Deleted member 15582]

Subtle but good change. Which software did you use for editing the nose?

a free app 'Surgerysimulator'

 

[Deleted member 21048]

While I do agree with your suspicions (plenty of retards here), he actually is pretty smart:

My infraorbital and supraorbital design + bimax plan.

Trimax + Infras + Supras Implants were designed by @RealSurgerymax I don't know why I'm even posting on this shithole forum but there you go. SURGERY DATE: March 25 I will be answering your questions

looksmax.org

Dude had mogger gonions, jaw and chin width, but a class 2 malocclusion and a recessed chin (wide and square but lacking height and projection), so he got bimax, genio and giga blackpilled periorbital implants that gave him compact, square orbits and high set cheekbones. Best possible plan for his situation.

Best plan for someone similar to this but who also has a narrow palate, mandible and shit gonions?

Too many failos?

 

[BrownEyesWD]

modified lefort 3 is a meme, it doesn't bring nose forward. Lefort 1 with custom implants has made lefort 3 redundant

Did you get implants to bring nose forward too or does lefort 1 help with that a bit?

 

[NegativeNorwood]

Best plan for someone similar to this but who also has a narrow palate, mandible and shit gonions?

Too many failos?

Bimax + custom implants or palate expansion (or accelerated orthodontics to expand dental arches if palate is decent) + custom implants if jaw is not recessed.

 

[Deleted member 20914]

Did you get implants to bring nose forward too or does lefort 1 help with that a bit?

that was purely from lefort 1, implants are much higher up

 

[VenatorLuparius]

I thought this might be interesting to some of you.

third pic is a line indicating the position of the cut with soft tissue overlay

Those are my orbits, how much do you think both supras+infras will improve me ?

I just contacted @RealSurgerymax for a consultation to begin design process for Infras+Supras+Jaw angles.