Misconceptions about wide hips [+ Hips Thread Part 2]

[Deleted member 20189]

Does jesse james west have wide hips though?

@Hipcel

 

[Erik-Jón]

I got wide hips too, t2 just like you, I think once you get past a certain height its hard to stop from being a framecel

I don’t think I’m a that much framecel I almost a 21inch bideltoid without gymmaxing that’s pretty good and I don’t have twink legs

But I still don’t know what a t2 hip is

 

[Deleted member 20189]

I don’t think I’m a that much framecel I almost a 21inch bideltoid without gymmaxing that’s pretty good and I don’t have twink legs

But I still don’t know what a t2 hip is

I'm more of a framcel than you, I only have like around a 19 bideltoid I think without gymmaxing

but t2 is just the lower hips that are wide, I think if you have wide upper and lower hips it looks masculine tbh, but since we both have only wide lower hips it makes a sorta hour glass shape

 

[Erik-Jón]

I'm more of a framcel than you, I only have like around a 19 bideltoid I think without gymmaxing

but t2 is just the lower hips that are wide, I think if you have wide upper and lower hips it looks masculine tbh, but since we both have only wide lower hips it makes a sorta hour glass shape

@StrangerDanger is this what you said you have hourglass shit how do I fix

 

[Pakicel]

I don’t think I’m a that much framecel I almost a 21inch bideltoid without gymmaxing that’s pretty good and I don’t have twink legs

But I still don’t know what a t2 hip is

Got the exact same hips as you I think.

 

[Deleted member 20189]

@StrangerDanger is this what you said you have hourglass shit how do I fix

you cant fix it, you can only gymmax

 

[Erik-Jón]

Got the exact same hips as you I think.

See look I told you and you said I was muh postinf for compliments

 

[SoonToAscend]

@Hipcel do you think a person without big hips should train obliques or will it ruin frame?

 

[Deleted member 2106]

If you can’t even bench your body weight you can’t really say you’re a framecel. You don’t know how your muscle grows on your frame before that point. You could have godlike insertions and bottom tier fat distributions that completely redefine your whole frame depending on body composition.

 

[Deleted member 18849]

@Hipcel do you think a person without big hips should train obliques or will it ruin frame?

Train them, having a strong core is important plus you'll avoid muscle imbalances. Maybe don't train them as much as lats and shoulders though, for aesthetics

Does jesse james west have wide hips though?

@Hipcel

Can't tell because he's got a lot of muscle and some fat. Find a skinnier version

 

[Deleted member 18849]

I am also a hipcel boyo. Worse than most of the users here.

There is no fix for this unfortunately besides getting very lean and gymcelling.

And 3 surgeries for the extreme cases.

@Racky why ""?

 

[randomvanish]

i got 23inch bideltoid and yet my hips look retarded. i would probably look like gandy if i lose weight more. his pant hip size was 96cm, mine is 98 when i was starvemaxxing.

of course you should enhance scapula and shoulders BUT training oblique is the most beneficial thing to do.

 

[SoonToAscend]

Train them, having a strong core is important plus you'll avoid muscle imbalances. Maybe don't train them as much as lats and shoulders though, for aesthetics

Can't tell because he's got a lot of muscle and some fat. Find a skinnier version

I've heard one should train abs and obliques only with bodyweight to maintain a good frame and supposedly golden era bodybuilders did this.
And that weighted training on these parts with hypertrophy them to the point when you will end up with a strongman turtle abs which are absolutely disgusting

 

[Deleted member 18849]

I've heard one should train abs and obliques only with bodyweight to maintain a good frame and supposedly golden era bodybuilders did this.
And that weighted training on these parts with hypertrophy them to the point when you will end up with a strongman turtle abs which are absolutely disgusting

Side abs and abs have way fewer androgen receptors than lats and shoulder, that they grow a lot.

Train them, but not insanely or anything. Strongmen also have different cores and very HGH levels.

Hafthor looked pretty good when he pulled 501kg

 

[SoonToAscend]

Side abs and abs have way fewer androgen receptors than lats and shoulder, that they grow a lot.

Train them, but not insanely or anything. Strongmen also have different cores and very HGH levels.

Hafthor looked pretty good when he pulled 501kg

Currently I do them within a superset, 1 set of normal crunches, 1 set of side crunches then 1 side of normal crunches again. 20-30 reps till near failure, I think it's enough?

 

[BasedUgandacel]

Because they will make the physique look feminine as hell if there is a big curvy ass with wide hips. Hipcels already are screwed a lot of the time because they can't achieve that V taper. Look at hamza, he has an hourglass physique like a woman. Hipcels can't afford to have any more womanly features.
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From pakifemboy to gynochad

 

[Deleted member 3828]

High iq thread

 

[Deleted member 19865]

I never realized how fucked my hips were until reading these threads. Absolutely ogre bros

 

[Deleted member 18849]

I never realized how fucked my hips were until reading these threads. Absolutely ogre bros

This baldcel is a Type 2 hipcel. And he's a strong T2.



Notice how his pelvis rotates a bit when walking, exactly like Gandy because of the wide placed femoral heads.

His palms appear large compared to his forearms, that I've noticed a lot of T2 hipcels have for some "unknown" reason, although I have a suspicion why.

Tagging potential T2s from this thread
@Übermogger @Tallooksmaxxer @DoctorLooksmax @Thyroidoverrope33 @fjor2096 @beachdude123 @BaldingBabyFace @dakchuh @Bezel @SoonToAscend

 

[Deleted member 20781]

This baldcel is a Type 2 hipcel. And he's a strong T2.



Notice how his pelvis rotates a bit when walking, exactly like Gandy because of the wide placed femoral heads.

His palms appear large compared to his forearms, that I've noticed a lot of T2 hipcels have for some "unknown" reason, although I have a suspicion why.

Tagging potential T2s from this thread
@Übermogger @Tallooksmaxxer @DoctorLooksmax @Thyroidoverrope33 @fjor2096 @beachdude123 @BaldingBabyFace @dakchuh @Bezel @SoonToAscend

My hips are honestly fine I used to get a bit self conscious about them because they looked bad when I was like 13 and a bit chubby but I got older and they're good. I don't have superman hips but they're not like gandys

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

This baldcel is a Type 2 hipcel. And he's a strong T2.



Notice how his pelvis rotates a bit when walking, exactly like Gandy because of the wide placed femoral heads.

His palms appear large compared to his forearms, that I've noticed a lot of T2 hipcels have for some "unknown" reason, although I have a suspicion why.

Tagging potential T2s from this thread
@Übermogger @Tallooksmaxxer @DoctorLooksmax @Thyroidoverrope33 @fjor2096 @beachdude123 @BaldingBabyFace @dakchuh @Bezel @SoonToAscend

looks like t1 to me.

 

[Deleted member 18849]

looks like t1 to me.

Spoiler: Here's a better timestamp

Manlet Hammond having wider hips than 6'3 Clarkson. Brutal

 

[dakchuh]

Spoiler: Here's a better timestamp

Manlet Hammond having wider hips than 6'3 Clarkson. Brutal

yes, my thighs are curved out toward the top exactly like this




look at his thighs when he stands with feet apart. they curve inward. if he puts his feet together, the thigh area around the femoral head would bulge out the most

 

[Deleted member 20781]

yes, my thighs are curved out toward the top exactly like this

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look at his thighs when he stands with feet apart. they curve inward. if he puts his feet together, the thigh area around the femoral head would bulge out the most
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looks like he has a thigh gap

 

[Deleted member 3828]

Thoughts on hip liposuction for T2 types?

rate frank yang - one of the most aesthetics hipcels out there



him naked:

 

[Deleted member 18849]

looks like he has a thigh gap

He's T2.

Thoughts on hip liposuction for T2 types?

rate frank yang - one of the most aesthetics hipcels out there



him naked:




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Lipo would help if you actually have fat there, if it's bone nope.

Frank Yang looks bad even after gymmaxxing, but I've seen even worse.

 

[randomvanish]

His palms appear large compared to his forearms, that I've noticed a lot of T2 hipcels have for some "unknown" reason, although I have a suspicion why.

mine is like that too, strange

 

[Deleted member 18849]

mine is like that too, strange

And my suspicion is.. Partly because High HGH exposure, plates closed, so hands, feet, head bones and the pelvis continued growing.
Here's a T2:

You can clearly see the bone head sticking out like Nazi camp survivor with muscle.

T2 could be called also femoral-headcels, a better question would be why the upper part remained narrow.

And although T1 and T3 are closer to women's bodies because they have significantly wider than waist upper pelvic bones...

... It's harder to fix T2 with gymmaxing than T1.

@Lorsss any progress with side abs to mask hips?

 

[Deleted member 22230]

hipcel, how u know so much about hips ?

 

[Deleted member 18849]

I didn't even know I was a hipcel before 2022, I was just a forum guest lurker starting from early 2022 looking to improve my face with mewing, chewing, learn about surgeries, etc. But, there was a guy named OldVirigin who deleted his account a week before I joined (@Nameless_Sunflower @subhuman incel right?) who for some reason made a lot of posts about hips the first months of 2022. Lots of posts.

Then I realized that my lower hips are wider than my upper, that I've noticed initially after finishing puberty but never really paid attention to, aka having prominent femoral heads.

My upper hips are narrow. So I measured them and found out: upper hip width = waist = 26cm
Lower hip width = 32cm.

Then I joined this forum.

hipcel, how u know so much about hips ?

From the research and observations I've made the last ~6months.

 

[smvmaxxertilllate]

Is there any way to judge frame if you are overweight with love handles? I believe my clavicles are around average width.

 

[wasakaka]

Rate my hips/frame

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[Deleted member 18849]

Rate my hips/frame

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Looks normal. React to the post if you found it helpful.

Is there any way to judge frame if you are overweight with love handles? I believe my clavicles are around average width.

Risk of judging wrong. Just lose weight.

If you were fat during your childhood - adolescence, chances are higher that you have wide hips.

 

[Fgsfds]

You think clavicle lengthening is less likely to fuck you up than roids? In addition to the higher cost, permanent Ls in physical ability that one must undertake? Wtf.

 

[fvolkek]

This thread is somewhat lengthy, I included pictures to make it more easily understandable.

Spoiler: Thread 1

Eppley's "solution" to the wide hips question is a cope surgery

Here's what he offers https://www.eppleyplasticsurgery.com/how-can-i-reduce-the-horizontal-width-of-my-hips-hip-reduction/ A: I will assume that when you speak of more narrow hips that you are referring to reduction of the iliac crest, specifically the most lateral craved wing of the iliac...

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Spoiler: Misconceptions

So I’ve noticed some users mistakenly assume that wide hips = wide upper pelvic bones only

That’s not true. You can have perfectly normal upper hip line width but bad hip joint / total p2p femoral head width. Take a look at this picture.

Notice the difference between high hip line and low hip line at different levels of the Z spatial axis.

Example of wide lower hips but normal upper hip line

Spoiler: Types

I’ve proposed ways of trying to mitigate this problem at the linked “Thread 1” above, but that post’s main conceptual shortcoming was the failure to classify hipcel types according to the ways in which each can in principle be addressed.

There are 4 types of width irregularities that make up the hipceldom problem partially or entirely.

T1
Generally wide pelvis. So not necessarily bad upper hip to lower hip ratio, but bad waist + ribcage to hips ratio, and bad shoulders to hips ratio.

• Wide Ilium bones, meaning wider high hip line because of Iliac crests’ point to point distance

• Wide lower hip distance, as a side effect of

a) wider Sacrum resulting in larger pelvic cavity
b) lower Ilium’s geometry and size
c) Pubic and Ischium’s bones width
d) see Type 4 below

Example:

T2

Wide lower hips, but NOT upper hips below the waist

Result of
a) lower Ilium’s geometry and size
b) Pubic and Ischium’s bones width
c) see Type 4 below

Examples:

T3
Wide upper hips AND even wider lower hips

(T2 but grown in width. So average upper hip width → wide and higher already lower hip width → even wider.
Essentially the closest a male pelvis can come to a female’s, minus Ilium’s edge to Pubic/Hip joint distance aka height at the Z spatial axis. Women’s pelvis is significantly shorter than men’s

but that’s irrelevant here)

Examples:

T4
This won’t alone make someone a hipcel but it’ll contribute. Femoral heads’ issue, but rare. Either

a) very small upper and lower pelvic body in width and long femurs with big femoral head bodies each

OR

b) a condition - deformity called Coxa Vara whereby the angle between the head and the shaft of the femur is reduced to less than 120 degrees.

This is important because the angle (and size) of the femoral head can determine whether you’ll have protruding lower hips or not if your pelvis geometry isn’t ideal already.

So it makes sense that, deformities aside, a person with smaller angle will have higher lower hip width all else being equal

Spoiler: Identify if you have wide hips and if yes what type.

Women won’t actively focus on your hips, but a dogshit frame like this guy’s:

will unconsciously put them off.
A somewhat better frame, with ribcage narrower than hips is still unattractive

Check the 4 types. Keep in mind that both men and women have a wider lower hips distance after puberty as seen in this Wikipedia photo.

Child development - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If you have shit frame, were fat during puberty (increased rate of T to Estradiol), got exposed to high growth hormone levels (that’s why tall guys are more likely to be hipcels), even after most plates fused (people with big hands and feet), exposed to very high T that aromatized, or have shit estrogen receptor density or K syndrome, your risk is higher.
Being an anxious person with elevated cortisol during puberty probably wouldn’t help either.

Spoiler: Solutions

Gym isn’t guaranteed to work. Gandy roided and worked out and still has noticeably wide lower hips.

1. Stop doing heavy glute work, you probably will have added Y axis width (depth) so a 3/4 side front profile would make it look worse, and way worse if naked. Do isolated quad + and hamstring workout preferably
2. Train side abs / obliques

1. Train shoulders heavily
2. Consider clavicle lengthening*** (this is a good thread by @RealSurgerymax )

Shoulder Widening 2020 State-Of-The-Art Review and Comparison (DO vs. Bone Graft vs. Sliding Clavicle Osteotomy vs. Alloplastic)

Hello Everyone, In the last year Shoulder Widening has become a big topic on the forums and last week Leif Rogers published a new procedure on YouTube, although I haven't seen anything in the journals yet. Shoulder Reduction Surgery for the MtF Plastic Surgery population has shown us that...

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I don’t recommend steroids.
This guy did an impressive transformation

Surgery:
Coming back to what I wrote earlier: I’ve proposed ways of trying to mitigate this problem at the linked “Thread 1**” above, but that post’s not only hadn't classification for the corresponding solution, it was mainly to showcase that Eppley's surgery alone is useless.
**https://looksmax.org/threads/eppleys-solution-to-the-wide-hips-question-is-a-cope-surgery.490104/

1. There’s already cosmetic surgery being offered for wide hips (see Thread 1) by Eppley:

https://www.eppleyplasticsurgery.com/how-can-i-reduce-the-horizontal-width-of-my-hips-hip-reduction/

The problem is that surgery alone as posted is COPE. It’s supplemental only for cases with wide upper hips, aka T1, T3 not T2 or T4 - but again doing it alone as a T1 or T3, would then give you clear T2 hips, since your lower hip width = left unchanged.

1. If you read Thread 1 ’s comments, it turns out that you working out your upper body might not be enough for bad cases (see T3 pics)

1. Pelvic osteotomy would fix the problem instead of mask it, plus give you some bonus height. It'd probably require shaving of the inner pubic bones first:

But surely enough no one will agree to do it on syndromic clients.

1. Coxa Vara fixing surgery, Corrective Valgus osteotomy is essentially a surgery changing the femoral head angle (see T4). Orthopedic surgeons like Dror Paley (who does LL) who do this, not sure if they’ll do it to non deformed patients

Proof:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure...A-Coxa-magna-with-saddle-shaped_fig1_51479771

T4, T2 --> Workout side abs, obliques, shoulders, avoid glute training, forget Eppley also 4) consider 4, if it's really bad.
T1, T3 --> Workout side abs, obliques, shoulders, avoid glute training - focus on hamstrings and quads, Eppley's surgery would work for you only if you done something for your lower hip width FIRST


*** You can add up to 5cm shoulder width with Clavicle Lengthening.

Shoulder Widening 2020 State-Of-The-Art Review and Comparison (DO vs. Bone Graft vs. Sliding Clavicle Osteotomy vs. Alloplastic)

Hello Everyone, In the last year Shoulder Widening has become a big topic on the forums and last week Leif Rogers published a new procedure on YouTube, although I haven't seen anything in the journals yet. Shoulder Reduction Surgery for the MtF Plastic Surgery population has shown us that...

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That guy didn't do Clavicle Lengthening

As long as I remember the default answer to the wide hips question from the Looksmax community has been:


Well, there you go ☝☝.

Spoiler: Tagging potentially interested / knowledgeable / high IQ users

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Spoiler: For the dummies

Edit: For the low IQ users like Danish Retard and @incel194012940 , you don't have to roid and fuck up your balls and natural test production and overall health. READ ffs: Clavicle lengthening can emulate this

Spoiler: For the dummies

Don't comment if you haven't read the post. It's not that hard.

T3 niggas gang

 

[Deleted member 18849]

You think clavicle lengthening is less likely to fuck you up than roids? In addition to the higher cost, permanent Ls in physical ability that one must undertake? Wtf.

Premature aging, baldness, heart problems and fucked up natural test production for life, also lengthening an inch logically won't fuck your muscles up.

T3 niggas gang

 

[Buci]

Buah I imagine myself as a woman and the left is fucking disgusting and the right makes my pussy drip so much, now I understand what women feel when they see a muscular ripped body

Is this even real? Its definetly not the same person. Either that, or he took plenty of test during puberty.

 

[TeenAscender]

did you think I wouldn't be able to tell that you're leaning forward and sloping the phone camera down?


you have a good body, but your frame is quite normal, not the 'proof that growing up fat doesn't affect pelvic breath' that you think it is.

ur frauding in ur pic too tbf

 

[Orc]

ur frauding in ur pic too tbf

yes, how else would I know.

 

[soulseekingbeast69]

Am i a hipcel?

 

[Max Frauder]

No such thing as a hipcel. It's all about shoulder-waist-hips ratio. You can have a female hourglass waist-hips shape and still be saved by wide shoulders & chest.

This subject is about overall dogshit subhuman framecels really.

 

[Buci]

it means that your upper body is lacking, and its fixable

More fixable than fucked hips, but still, his ribs, clavicles and scapula may be narrow

 

[nitesik]

More fixable than fucked hips, but still, his ribs, clavicles and scapula may be narrow

Yes true, depends on individual.

 

[Dr. Mog]

Ig you forgot to mention the most basic waist size measurement mate. Modelling agencies accept no more than size 34in waist

 

[WBC323]

Isn't this just genetics

 

[Deleted member 22886]

What kind of hipcel am I

Scoliosis?

 

[potentialzaddy]

Because they will make the physique look feminine as hell if there is a big curvy ass with wide hips. Hipcels already are screwed a lot of the time because they can't achieve that V taper. Look at hamza, he has an hourglass physique like a woman. Hipcels can't afford to have any more womanly features.
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shit genetics but physique still slays imo most normies probably find it attractive were just mentally ill autistic retards

 

[potentialzaddy]

hips are a common flaw and i feel like guys bitch and moan and cry too much about them, unless you look like an acoustic fucking guitar youre probably fine if you look like the first picture you might be fucked, but the majority of people who are 'MUHH WIDE HIPS WAAA' can easily build a good body chris heria is a great example

before i started lifting i wasnt even concerned about my hips i didnt even look at them or think wow my hips arent tiny, theyre average and its whatever but hipcels dont worry youll be fine dont be a blackpilled faggot and use it as an excuse to not put in the work

were all gonna make it you ugly autismcels lets go

 

[potentialzaddy]

didnt even realise i already commented on here fkn lol

 

[eyebagcel]

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