
joaotorri
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Based, mse will only give you bigger nose and a tooth gap
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bonesmash+mk677 but please.. gatekeep it..BUT BUT but bu tt what about LOOX
implants is cope tbYes, this cut is extra weird
I saw another cut while ramus lenghtening but of course it's better to use implants.
it pushes zygos out laterally via bilateral maxillary expansionMSE won't just grow the bones some users project it would
alar stretch isnt that crazy & there are different techniques/appliances to prevent or minimize asymmetry/complicationsLetting your nose get wider noticably and becoming asymmetrical AF
theres mandible expanders too you know. bsso doesnt magically widen ur mandible either fyi, for mse is exclusively a bilateral movement, whilst bsso is focused on anterior movementsThe mandible doesn't grow along your maxilla BTW
even if you are referring to ONLY mse - there are other techniques as you may know. completely false either way.Apart from that MSE literally costs multiple grands and is only being done by a Korean doctor called Dr. Moon.
only happens if there is no proper retention for the full osteogenesis periodsome palate expanding results return to baseline
still true, but not everyone can afford that, as this forum is full of 14 year old ibutamoren goblinsYou are better off going straight for osteotomies and implants
you arent helping your point with this table either
If you do bimax alone you wa.t entirely fix your maxilla projectionMSE won't just grow the bones some users project it would, the only logical use case is fixing palate deformities.
If you don't have that problem, stay away from MSE and other palate expanders.
There are multiple downsides to MSE.
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Letting your nose get wider noticably and becoming asymmetrical AF doesn't sound like a "looksmax" to me.
The mandible doesn't grow along your maxilla BTW. So JFL at needing bimax afterwards either way.
Both the mandible and maxilla grow during puberty, that doesn't mean their growth is correlated, especially not after puberty.
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Comparison of maxillary and mandibular growth - PubMed
In this longitudinal study, serial lateral cephalometric radiographs were used to compare growth patterns of the maxilla and mandible, with hand-wrist radiographs used to assess skeletal maturity. The sample comprised 28 untreated subjects (15 female, 13 male) who were followed from ages 6 to 20...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Apart from that MSE literally costs multiple grands and is only being done by a Korean doctor called Dr. Moon. Other palate expanders have the same downsides.
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Even funnier is that some palate expanding results return to baseline, just JFL at thinking thumbpulling would change a molecule.
"B-But Patel said-" Great idea, just listen to him because he claims x ascended him and his clients.
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You are better off going straight for osteotomies and implants, there is no reason to cope with things that don't work.
Bimax B/A.
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Last blackpill of the thread: Your skull is done growing for the most part after the age of 5.
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Most of the expansion happens closer to the center of expansion. It does fuck all to your zygos.it pushes zygos out laterally via bilateral maxillary expansion
Just straight up wrong.alar stretch isnt that crazy
Let's just spend even more money, great idea.theres mandible expanders too
All other palate expanders are equally dogshit. Everyone is better off just getting osteotomies.even if you are referring to ONLY mse
You won't be able to explain why even some osteotomies return closer to baseline.only happens if there is no proper retention for the full osteogenesis period
They can't afford palate and mandible expanders either. Just use something that doesn't work at all because it is 5% cheaper theory.still true, but not everyone can afford that
The skull finished developing for the most part at the age of 5 already, JFL if you think you can change your whole skull with thumbpulling or palate expanders.arent helping your point with this table