My forward maxillary gains and rate my next homemmade hardmaxxing plan

[HollowCheek]

First of all I do not recommend anything I did and also it took me about 2 years autsimmaxxing and researching every single thing about achieving forward growth

Intro and current situation

I started like 2+ years ago with good habits (breathing through aka mewing nose and softmaxxing)

I started like 1 year ago with moving my hyoid bone up by following tips I already posted here

Guide for moving hyoid bone for my felow recessed dudes (results with pics)

This thread is recommended for ppl like me who have recessed lower third and want to fix it Intro Hyoid bone is one of the most important bones in your face especially when it comes to the side profile. If you achieve upper place of hyoid bone it will fraud that look of strong jaw and good...

looksmax.org

Basically hardmewing during day (mewing during night)

I also added soft thumbpulling which means thumbpull for like 5 mins per week for some forward but it worked only slightly and results are here

You can see I def moved my hyoid (which isnt even hard just good habits and weight loss) but also It gave me around (I didnt measure it) 5-7 mm forward.

Also new failo popped up.

“Unfixable” chimp pheno

This pheno according to one guy (who I really respect cuz of his knowledge)
comes from developed lower maxilla with deep canine fossa but recessed upper maxilla. A lot of blacks have this type of pheno.

Mewing and hard mewing cant probably help this problem which means

My homemade hardmaxxing plan:

According to some old threads here, researching about MSE and debating with some og users I think I finally came with solution which wouldnt fix my chimp pheno BUT it would bring my upper maxilla more forward (with lower one) which would lead to propper support of my nasolabial folds.


1) Cutting palate suture

This seems really risky for many greycels but risks arent that bad after my researchs. First of all I would take a knife and cut my palate suture (this picture is my palate and red lines are places where I would cut). Slightly and I do not expect any pain because there are no nerves.

This thing is also doned during MSE by surgeon btw

2) Thumbpulling

With suture being cutted apart I would thumbpull at least 15 minutes a day. After seeing results or any negative thing (pain or too much bleeding) I would stop it and wait for suture to recover.

Risks: bleeding, theoretically splitting my face apart muhaha

Results:

Results are overrated jfl but I think that there should be definetly some improve upper maxilla growth.

3) Bonesmashing
Just basic Bonesmashing the end of jaw for length.

@Allornothing @Xangsane

 

[Sped]

gah dayum mirin

ima start doin this (as long as i dont pussy out)

hq ty

 

[Sped]

how old are you btw

 

[HollowCheek]

how old are you btw

20 now 18 first pic

I DO NOT RECOMMED CUTTING PALATE

 

[Sped]

20 now 18 first pic

I DO NOT RECOMMED CUTTING PALATE

why not

 

[HollowCheek]

why not

Seems risky and I do not want you to cut your whole face away cuz of my post

 

[Napoleon1800]

20 now 18 first pic

I DO NOT RECOMMED CUTTING PALATE

Then why r u doing it? It looks giga retarded tbh

 

[DelonLover1999]

looks like lower bf and bone maturation, to me

 

[Deleted member 29660]

20 now 18 first pic

I DO NOT RECOMMED CUTTING PALATE

Tell us the tesults tho @ me

 

[Sped]

Seems risky and I do not want you to cut your whole face away cuz of my post

ill do some research on it see if it is something i would be okay with doing

 

[HollowCheek]

Then why r u doing it? It looks giga retarded tbh

Its almost the same as MSE

Tell us the tesults tho @ me

Got u bro

 

[Napoleon1800]

Its almost the same as MSE

Got u bro

Mse, when professionally done, has many risks and often gives off shitty results. Now imagine doing this at home without any proper medical management

 

[HollowCheek]

Mse, when professionally done, has many risks and often gives off shitty results. Now imagine doing this at home without any proper medical management

Ye, this is exactly why I chose this. I can stop whenever I want without any permanent damage. (Maybe some pain in few days/weeks before the suture heal)

 

[Napoleon1800]

Ye, this is exactly why I chose this. I can stop whenever I want without any permanent damage. (Maybe some pain in few days/weeks before the suture heal)

Why wouldn't there be any permanent damage? You are literally cutting your mouth nigga

 

[HollowCheek]

Why wouldn't there be any permanent damage? You are literally cutting your mouth nigga

Slightly but you can stop anytime. Btw saying it in this manner makes me question what have I become jfl

 

[Napoleon1800]

Slightly but you can stop anytime. Btw saying it in this manner makes me question what have I become jfl

You do you but Idk if this is really safe nigga. Thumbpulling is fine, I recommend doing it in hot shower as it helps loosen the sutures, but cutting mouth seems dangerous

 

[HollowCheek]

You do you but Idk if this is really safe nigga. Thumbpulling is fine, I recommend doing it in hot shower as it helps loosen the sutures, but cutting mouth seems dangerous

YEAH FINALLY SOMEONE SAY THAT THING WITH HOT TEMPERATURE.

I started doing it after gymmaxing in sauna and hot baths while I bonesmash In colder places.

 

[Napoleon1800]

YEAH FINALLY SOMEONE SAY THAT THING WITH HOT TEMPERATURE.

I started doing it after gymmaxing in sauna and hot baths while I bonesmash In colder places.

Why bonesmash in cold place?

 

[Deleted member 24770]

First of all I do not recommend anything I did and also it took me about 2 years autsimmaxxing and researching every single thing about achieving forward growth

Intro and current situation

I started like 2+ years ago with good habits (breathing through aka mewing nose and softmaxxing)
View attachment 2496434

I started like 1 year ago with moving my hyoid bone up by following tips I already posted here

Guide for moving hyoid bone for my felow recessed dudes (results with pics)

This thread is recommended for ppl like me who have recessed lower third and want to fix it Intro Hyoid bone is one of the most important bones in your face especially when it comes to the side profile. If you achieve upper place of hyoid bone it will fraud that look of strong jaw and good...

looksmax.org

Basically hardmewing during day (mewing during night)

I also added soft thumbpulling which means thumbpull for like 5 mins per week for some forward but it worked only slightly and results are here

View attachment 2496447

You can see I def moved my hyoid (which isnt even hard just good habits and weight loss) but also It gave me around (I didnt measure it) 5-7 mm forward.

Also new failo popped up.

“Unfixable” chimp pheno

View attachment 2496465

This pheno according to one guy (who I really respect cuz of his knowledge)
comes from developed lower maxilla with deep canine fossa but recessed upper maxilla. A lot of blacks have this type of pheno.

Mewing and hard mewing cant probably help this problem which means

My homemade hardmaxxing plan:

According to some old threads here, researching about MSE and debating with some og users I think I finally came with solution which wouldnt fix my chimp pheno BUT it would bring my upper maxilla more forward (with lower one) which would lead to propper support of my nasolabial folds.


1) Cutting palate suture

This seems really risky for many greycels but risks arent that bad after my researchs. First of all I would take a knife and cut my palate suture (this picture is my palate and red lines are places where I would cut). Slightly and I do not expect any pain because there are no nerves.

View attachment 2496484

This thing is also doned during MSE by surgeon btw

2) Thumbpulling

With suture being cutted apart I would thumbpull at least 15 minutes a day. After seeing results or any negative thing (pain or too much bleeding) I would stop it and wait for suture to recover.

Risks: bleeding, theoretically splitting my face apart muhaha

Results:
View attachment 2496490

Results are overrated jfl but I think that there should be definetly some improve upper maxilla growth.

3) Bonesmashing
Just basic Bonesmashing the end of jaw for length.

@Allornothing @Xangsane

Great maxilla and hyoid area genio would definitely make you very gl

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Incredibly low IQ thread

 

[HollowCheek]

Why bonesmash in cold place?

Colder temperature tends to make bones weaker. (Just remember when you were young in the winter and your fingers were cold, they tend to be more sensitive to being break)

 

[HollowCheek]

Great maxilla and hyoid area genio would definitely make you very gl

Cant tell if you are trolling or not

 

[Napoleon1800]

Colder temperature tends to make bones weaker. (Just remember when you were young in the winter and your fingers were cold, they tend to be more sensitive to being break)

Yes I see. Have you seen results from bonemashing btw. I'm thinking of doing it on my zygos using the back of a screwdriver

 

[Deleted member 24770]

Cant tell if you are trolling or not

Why? u look pretty af in the after pic so i guess genio would ascend you to chadlite tier, havent seen ur front but thats what ig

 

[HollowCheek]

Why? u look pretty af in the after pic so i guess genio would ascend you to chadlite tier, havent seen ur front but thats what ig

Thanks, here you go
First is my front under very good lighting and fraud in posture

This is me unfrauded before and after the first and sec pic

 

[Deleted member 24770]

Thanks, here you go
First is my front under very good lighting and fraud in posture


View attachment 2496603



This is me unfrauded before and after the first and sec picView attachment 2496607

ltn to strong mtn-low htn. philtrum, lips, nose , could be better and midface could be more compact. You look good just needs better chin and harmony

 

[HollowCheek]

ltn to strong mtn-low htn. philtrum, lips, nose , could be better and midface could be more compact. You look good just needs better chin and harmony

My midface looks horrible on these photos but imho its because I took it from 20cm by my front camera

Its not that bad from longer distance imho

 

[HollowCheek]

My midface looks horrible on these photos but imho its because I took it from 20cm by my front camera
View attachment 2496629

Its not that bad from longer distance imho

I took almost all of my pics from short distance cuz I want to see all my failos and bones, I know its curved

 

[HollowCheek]

Yes I see. Have you seen results from bonemashing btw. I'm thinking of doing it on my zygos using the back of a screwdriver

Zygos seems bigger, thats all

 

[humanoidsub7]

good results

 

[EGGY 1671u32g]

Zygos seems bigger, thats all

updates on the thumbpulling and bonesmashing?

 

[futureashtray]

1) Cutting palate suture

This seems really risky for many greycels but risks arent that bad after my researchs. First of all I would take a knife and cut my palate suture (this picture is my palate and red lines are places where I would cut). Slightly and I do not expect any pain because there are no nerves.

Just. Fucking. Lol.






















u 100% positive you arent Indian?

 

[JBWNeetcel]

How to give yourself an infection guide

 

[Itsnotmeiswear]

Thanks, here you go
First is my front under very good lighting and fraud in posture


View attachment 2496603



This is me unfrauded before and after the first and sec picView attachment 2496607

looks like that tiktoker hacker or what is he called

 

[Carnivore]

Go see a surgeon and/or an orthodontist, don't be a dumbass and do risky stuff to your face, you only have one.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

First of all I do not recommend anything I did and also it took me about 2 years autsimmaxxing and researching every single thing about achieving forward growth

Intro and current situation

I started like 2+ years ago with good habits (breathing through aka mewing nose and softmaxxing)
View attachment 2496434

I started like 1 year ago with moving my hyoid bone up by following tips I already posted here

Guide for moving hyoid bone for my felow recessed dudes (results with pics)

This thread is recommended for ppl like me who have recessed lower third and want to fix it Intro Hyoid bone is one of the most important bones in your face especially when it comes to the side profile. If you achieve upper place of hyoid bone it will fraud that look of strong jaw and good...

looksmax.org

Basically hardmewing during day (mewing during night)

I also added soft thumbpulling which means thumbpull for like 5 mins per week for some forward but it worked only slightly and results are here

View attachment 2496447

You can see I def moved my hyoid (which isnt even hard just good habits and weight loss) but also It gave me around (I didnt measure it) 5-7 mm forward.

Also new failo popped up.

“Unfixable” chimp pheno

View attachment 2496465

This pheno according to one guy (who I really respect cuz of his knowledge)
comes from developed lower maxilla with deep canine fossa but recessed upper maxilla. A lot of blacks have this type of pheno.

Mewing and hard mewing cant probably help this problem which means

My homemade hardmaxxing plan:

According to some old threads here, researching about MSE and debating with some og users I think I finally came with solution which wouldnt fix my chimp pheno BUT it would bring my upper maxilla more forward (with lower one) which would lead to propper support of my nasolabial folds.


1) Cutting palate suture

This seems really risky for many greycels but risks arent that bad after my researchs. First of all I would take a knife and cut my palate suture (this picture is my palate and red lines are places where I would cut). Slightly and I do not expect any pain because there are no nerves.

View attachment 2496484

This thing is also doned during MSE by surgeon btw

2) Thumbpulling

With suture being cutted apart I would thumbpull at least 15 minutes a day. After seeing results or any negative thing (pain or too much bleeding) I would stop it and wait for suture to recover.

Risks: bleeding, theoretically splitting my face apart muhaha

Results:
View attachment 2496490

Results are overrated jfl but I think that there should be definetly some improve upper maxilla growth.

3) Bonesmashing
Just basic Bonesmashing the end of jaw for length.

@Allornothing @Xangsane

Definitely trolling or mogger candidate to Gandy heaven asylum

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Colder temperature tends to make bones weaker. (Just remember when you were young in the winter and your fingers were cold, they tend to be more sensitive to being break)

Incredibly low IQ thread

I confirm the low IQ thread, dude is a danger for himself

 

[shahid khan]

“Unfixable” chimp pheno

View attachment 2496465

GIVE ME MY CREDITS FOR CALLING YOU A ROMANIAN CHIMP NIGGA

 

[Soychadcell]

First of all I do not recommend anything I did and also it took me about 2 years autsimmaxxing and researching every single thing about achieving forward growth

Intro and current situation

I started like 2+ years ago with good habits (breathing through aka mewing nose and softmaxxing)
View attachment 2496434

I started like 1 year ago with moving my hyoid bone up by following tips I already posted here

Guide for moving hyoid bone for my felow recessed dudes (results with pics)

This thread is recommended for ppl like me who have recessed lower third and want to fix it Intro Hyoid bone is one of the most important bones in your face especially when it comes to the side profile. If you achieve upper place of hyoid bone it will fraud that look of strong jaw and good...

looksmax.org

Basically hardmewing during day (mewing during night)

I also added soft thumbpulling which means thumbpull for like 5 mins per week for some forward but it worked only slightly and results are here

View attachment 2496447

You can see I def moved my hyoid (which isnt even hard just good habits and weight loss) but also It gave me around (I didnt measure it) 5-7 mm forward.

Also new failo popped up.

“Unfixable” chimp pheno

View attachment 2496465

This pheno according to one guy (who I really respect cuz of his knowledge)
comes from developed lower maxilla with deep canine fossa but recessed upper maxilla. A lot of blacks have this type of pheno.

Mewing and hard mewing cant probably help this problem which means

My homemade hardmaxxing plan:

According to some old threads here, researching about MSE and debating with some og users I think I finally came with solution which wouldnt fix my chimp pheno BUT it would bring my upper maxilla more forward (with lower one) which would lead to propper support of my nasolabial folds.


1) Cutting palate suture

This seems really risky for many greycels but risks arent that bad after my researchs. First of all I would take a knife and cut my palate suture (this picture is my palate and red lines are places where I would cut). Slightly and I do not expect any pain because there are no nerves.

View attachment 2496484

This thing is also doned during MSE by surgeon btw

2) Thumbpulling

With suture being cutted apart I would thumbpull at least 15 minutes a day. After seeing results or any negative thing (pain or too much bleeding) I would stop it and wait for suture to recover.

Risks: bleeding, theoretically splitting my face apart muhaha

Results:
View attachment 2496490

Results are overrated jfl but I think that there should be definetly some improve upper maxilla growth.

3) Bonesmashing
Just basic Bonesmashing the end of jaw for length.

@Allornothing @Xangsane

Cutting the palate without doing anything to the bone? Really?

 

[ascension!]

Your results before-after the only difference I notice is that you have already grown, so there is a GREATER development in both jaws (maxilla & mandible), but in the after you are just jutting (I know it because of the position of your lips). There are no changes.

For your hardmaxxing-cope, you have to inject local anesthesia and use a surgical drill to drill and divide the pterygomaxillary sutures with your fingers and then install the device. In addition, post-install you need to use a face puller connected into the screws of said device to exert the necessary force that comes out of the bands towards the maxilla in order to grow forward.

Something you're clearly not going to do, you could die in the try, and I ain’t even kidding, but you’re just a pussy so you aren’t risking just for 2mm of maxilla forward growth.

 

[HollowCheek]

Your results before-after the only difference I notice is that you have already grown, so there is a GREATER development in both jaws (maxilla & mandible), but in the after you are just jutting (I know it because of the position of your lips). There are no changes.

For your hardmaxxing-cope, you have to inject local anesthesia and use a surgical drill to drill and divide the pterygomaxillary sutures with your fingers and then install the device. In addition, post-install you need to use a face puller connected into the screws of said device to exert the necessary force that comes out of the bands towards the maxilla in order to grow forward.

Something you're clearly not going to do, you could die in the try, and I ain’t even kidding, but you’re just a pussy so you aren’t risking just for 2mm of maxilla forward growth.

Bahahahaha Jutting No dude I am not jutting anywhere lmao on the second pic you can see forward in UPPER MAXILLA

HOW TF CAN I JUT UPPER JAWLINE MAN

This pic after is taken with absolute effort to be the same as the before. I tried even the same angle of my face and the same lighting. In the new pic I just make sure my tongue is pushing on my palate. Thats the whole “Fraud”. Just basic mewing.

If you jut you basically have your lower front teeth exactly under/in front of the upper front teeth and I do not have it. The distance between my upper and lower front teeth is the same in both photos.


If you still dont believe me you can measure the length of my face in two photos cuz while jutting you get longer midface. Also my lips are just bigger after years for whatever reason.

I wont do it cuz I am too lazy but you have these photos so you can prove yourself wrong if you want.




The second pic with an ape is kinda FRAUDED by an angle and I already mentioned it in the post.


Edit: Lips are different cuz angle between nose and lips have changed. I do not remember the exact name of that angle but you know what i mean. Between tip of your nose, the place where philtrum and nose colab and the tip of the upper lip

 

[ascension!]

Bahahahaha Jutting No dude I am not jutting anywhere lmao on the second pic you can see forward in UPPER MAXILLA

HOW TF CAN I JUT UPPER JAWLINE MANView attachment 2542546

This pic after is taken with absolute effort to be the same as the before. I tried even the same angle of my face and the same lighting. In the new pic I just make sure my tongue is pushing on my palate. Thats the whole “Fraud”. Just basic mewing.

If you jut you basically have your lower front teeth exactly under/in front of the upper front teeth and I do not have it. The distance between my upper and lower front teeth is the same in both photos.


If you still dont believe me you can measure the length of my face in two photos cuz while jutting you get longer midface. Also my lips are just bigger after years for whatever reason.

I wont do it cuz I am too lazy but you have these photos so you can prove yourself wrong if you want.




The second pic with an ape is kinda FRAUDED by an angle and I already mentioned it in the post.


Edit: Lips are different cuz angle between nose and lips have changed. I do not remember the exact name of that angle but you know what i mean. Between tip of your nose, the place where philtrum and nose colab and the tip of the upper lip

You're jutting your mandible

 

[Saint Casanova]

Caging at this retard

 

[HollowCheek]

You're jutting your mandible

No I am not Again jutting wouldnt make that triangle bigger and the post is about that forward measured in the yellow triangle

Edit: please elaborate how would jutting make this area bigger. Thanks

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

You absolute cuckolded Jew. They DONT ACTUALLY CUT THE SUTURE YOU RETARDED RECESSED APE, they vibrate the suture making it looserrrrrrr hence you don’t get INSTANT EXPANSION YOU LOW IQ SUBHUMAN

 

[mvp2v1]

MSE

 

[lelouch]

First of all I do not recommend anything I did and also it took me about 2 years autsimmaxxing and researching every single thing about achieving forward growth

Intro and current situation

I started like 2+ years ago with good habits (breathing through aka mewing nose and softmaxxing)
View attachment 2496434

I started like 1 year ago with moving my hyoid bone up by following tips I already posted here

Guide for moving hyoid bone for my felow recessed dudes (results with pics)

This thread is recommended for ppl like me who have recessed lower third and want to fix it Intro Hyoid bone is one of the most important bones in your face especially when it comes to the side profile. If you achieve upper place of hyoid bone it will fraud that look of strong jaw and good...

looksmax.org

Basically hardmewing during day (mewing during night)

I also added soft thumbpulling which means thumbpull for like 5 mins per week for some forward but it worked only slightly and results are here

View attachment 2496447

You can see I def moved my hyoid (which isnt even hard just good habits and weight loss) but also It gave me around (I didnt measure it) 5-7 mm forward.

Also new failo popped up.

“Unfixable” chimp pheno

View attachment 2496465

This pheno according to one guy (who I really respect cuz of his knowledge)
comes from developed lower maxilla with deep canine fossa but recessed upper maxilla. A lot of blacks have this type of pheno.

Mewing and hard mewing cant probably help this problem which means

My homemade hardmaxxing plan:

According to some old threads here, researching about MSE and debating with some og users I think I finally came with solution which wouldnt fix my chimp pheno BUT it would bring my upper maxilla more forward (with lower one) which would lead to propper support of my nasolabial folds.


1) Cutting palate suture

This seems really risky for many greycels but risks arent that bad after my researchs. First of all I would take a knife and cut my palate suture (this picture is my palate and red lines are places where I would cut). Slightly and I do not expect any pain because there are no nerves.

View attachment 2496484

This thing is also doned during MSE by surgeon btw

2) Thumbpulling

With suture being cutted apart I would thumbpull at least 15 minutes a day. After seeing results or any negative thing (pain or too much bleeding) I would stop it and wait for suture to recover.

Risks: bleeding, theoretically splitting my face apart muhaha

Results:
View attachment 2496490

Results are overrated jfl but I think that there should be definetly some improve upper maxilla growth.

3) Bonesmashing
Just basic Bonesmashing the end of jaw for length.

@Allornothing @Xangsane

need a genio ngl that's abt it

 

[Deleted member 8758]

We need an age separated subforums....

 

[the_nextDavidLaid]

We need an age separated subforums....

Before I demolish you, is this about the DIY MSE?

 

[Deleted member 8758]

Before I demolish you, is this about the DIY MSE?

No. I want a section for fellow oldcels.
What it feels like in here nowadays: